Oh dear Stevan. When I try to help you I get rubbished. You really have to
stop using knee-jerk reactions.
I fully agree Pay-per-view (PPV) is not ideal, and you know that I know it
better than most. I was responding to your very off-target message about
'anarchic' practices (green) vs
Steven Harnad has had and still has an enormous influence on the open access
question. But the way he pushes for has, sorry to say, in practice shown not to
be able to compet with the market.
That is a fact that the British government now recogineses and the rest of the
world will follow. The
We should not delude ourselves; journals can only be 'free' if someone pays
the costs.
All the work involved in creating and running a journal has to be paid for
somehow - they don't magically go away if a journal is e-only (in fact,
there are some new costs, even though some of the old ones
Stevan,
I would have guessed BOAI as the first OFFICIAL use. I'm trying to ferret-out
the PRE-HISTORY of the term--even its informal, coincidental or unconscious
use--LEADING UP to the conscious decision of those involved in BOAI (including
yourself, Stevan) to call this thing that we're all
** Cross-Posted**
The Catholic University of Louvain has adopted a self-archiving mandate
with the same incentives and obligations as the University of Liege model.
In its meeting of 2 July the Academic Council of UCK adopted a policy of
mandatory deposit in its DIAL
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Arthur Sale a...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
*SH:* (9) (10) *I'm hoping RCUK may still have the sense and integrity to
fix its policy [by] extend[ing] and strengthen[ing] UK's cost-free Green OA
mandates… instead of [just] squandering scarce research money to pay extra
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sally Morris
sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk wrote:
We should not delude ourselves; journals can only be 'free' if someone pays
the costs.
All the work involved in creating and running a journal has to be paid for
somehow - they don't magically go away if a
On 2012-08-07, at 7:28 AM, Omega Alpha | Open Access wrote:
Stevan,
I would have guessed BOAI as the first OFFICIAL use. I'm trying to
ferret-out the PRE-HISTORY of the term--even its informal, coincidental or
unconscious use--LEADING UP to the conscious decision of those involved in
BOAI
Peter is correct that there is a fourth way to achieve OA, and Sally is right
that each of them has costs, though in Peter's volunteer effort scenario, the
costs are largely hidden.
Can I go back to my snooze now please?
Charles
Professor Charles Oppenheim
--- On Tue, 7/8/12, Sally Morris
Do you think that doesn't entail cost?
The people who are doing this work 'free' (and the computer services
provided 'free', etc) are all in reality being paid by someone to do their
'real' jobs. And, presumably, the amount of time devoted to those 'real'
jobs is accordingly reduced.
Sally
Dear colleagues,
I am glad to have an opportunity to let you know that Japan's Ministry
of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology(MEXT) released a
report of the discussion of open access to scholarly research results
on a workgroup for scholarly communication infrastructure in July.
There's also the considerable risk that the journal will not be sustainable
under such a model. Once the volunteers lose interest, retire, or whatever,
others may not be willing to take on the work and the institution behind it may
no longer want to support it.
As Sally said, there are real
...and don't forget the cost of printing, paper, glue and postage stamps in the
original print version, O Digerati: last time I checked, they weren't being
given away for nothing. While much of the Open Access discussion only applies
to digital objects, these existential OA cost comparisons
This is an excellent model and worthy of implementing. What are our scholars
waiting for?
Wherever and whenever it doesn't quite come to fruition, or when the
'champions' of such journals retire or get bored, entities that formerly might
have been called 'publishers' could then fill the gaps
Chris,
The nice thing about true open access articles (under a CC-BY licence) is that
they can be printed and distributed, even for a profit (CC-BY publishers are
not consumed by 'profit-spite'). This is not true for the so-called OA articles
which are under a Non-Commercial licence, of
Gary,
About half a year before the BOAI meeting in December of 2001, in the early
summer of 2001, BioMed Central already used the term on its web site (BioMed
Central's unshakeable commitment to open access.). And ever since. See Wayback
Machine 9 July 2001:
In the summer of 2001, I was commissioned by WHO to write a paper summarizing
the spate of free and low cost initiatives that had appeared on the
publishing horizon and their possible benefits to developing countries. Looking
back through my archives I see that, with a consultant's magpie
Dear All,
I fear I let through a spam message by mistake.
Many apologies, I have been on the move today and was trying to keep the
flow going using, variously, an iPad and my cell phone. I will do my best
not to let it happen again.
Richard Poynder
GOAL Moderator
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