Having been to many of her costume history workshops, and come to know
her and her research methods first hand; she is brilliant and a very
good researcher (sadly she has given up costume research for other
pursuits). I just want to pick her brain for as much information as I
can get out of it
VCR means video cassette recorder. Perhaps the writer had seen some
historic garments described on a video?
I thought that women began to wear drawers in the Regency period (in its
broadest sense), when bulky petticoats ceased to be worn for 20 years or so. Am
I wrong?
Kate Bunting
Librarian
I looked her up (her name is on the transcript). She appears to be very
knowledgeable, but of course that's no guarantee of accuracy. Also, she was
faced literally with dozens of bulging plastic garbage bags and may have missed
clues dues to the sheer enormity of her task.
We (two elderly
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I looked her up (her name is on the transcript). She appears
Here's a link to the Past Patterns Sacque and petticoat:
http://www.pastpatterns.com/808.html
The Pattern has some good historical notes, I can't find my copy but
you could email Saundra for a copy.
Katy
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Not only that, but the actual working space was...well, horrible. Dirty,
poorly lit, and very (very) crowded -- not quite attic space, but very close.
It's slightly better now. The ladies have since cleared out a tiny back room,
tearing down filthy tattered 1840's wallpaper (and saving as
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
Not only that, but the actual working space was...well
Hey, we're psychic! *cue spooky music*
Apparently, our Board of Directors didn't think to suggest a donation, so of
course... we got nuthin'. And they left the front door open! Hmph!
We don't get Syfy, but I found a preview link for Episode 714 (Ghostly
Evidence)...
She's not only very knowlegeble, but she's one of the authorities on
both shoes and working class clothing in America. I think she did the
best she could with a monumental task.
It looks and sounds like you need an off-site storage and workroom for
the clothing collection. Any chance of
No chance at all. We're lucky we have an extension cord for the light
fixture! No heat or AC, so the work is seasonal lest we freeze/roast up there.
Dede
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It looks and sounds like you need an off-site storage and workroom
Thank you for the link! It appears to be very close, although ours are all
plain cotton (sheeting weight) and have no front closures (a few have ties at
the neck, I think). Straight pins, maybe? We JUST started working on them,
and I'll look for pin-holes.
Dede
--- On Thu, 9/15/11, Katy
, especially in scholarly settings.
Agnes
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VCR means video cassette recorder. Perhaps the writer had seen
some historic garments described on a video?
Well,
I know THAT (I'm not that young). There was some context missing in the
quote (get on the VCR... and what?) so it's possible that this was an
acronym for something else. If she
I don't remember what the date you gave is, but ready-to-wear clothing
has been around a lot longer than most people think. See Claudia
Kidwell'sSuiting Everyone: The Democratization of Clothing in America.
Fran
Lavolta Press
Books of historic clothing patterns
www.lavoltapress.com
On
information on sacque garments (NOT the dress)
Not only that, but the actual working space was...well, horrible. Dirty,
poorly lit, and very (very) crowded -- not quite attic space, but very close.
It's slightly better now. The ladies have since cleared out a tiny back room,
tearing down filthy
Back at the Reed Homestead... we are moving on to the next pile -- stacks and
stacks of shirt-like garments with no closures (other than a few with ties at
the neck).
We hired a woman in 1995 to start pulling clothing literally out of garbage
bags and start cataloging. (Sadly, we still have
?
Claudine
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Subject: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress)
Back at the Reed Homestead... we are moving
Hi Dede,
I don't know if it helps at all, but I have a couple of very old
family garments that have notes with them calling them sacques. They
date across a certain spectrum: one to the 1890s, the others to a
scattering of years between 1910 and the early 1980s (the last being
one I preserved
. Any chance you could post a
picture for us to look at?
-Laura
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Back at the Reed Homestead... we are moving on to the next pile --
stacks and stacks
Oh, and this is the kind of thing we find when we research sacque (hence NOT
the dress):
www.reconstructinghistory.com/assets/products/3237/product/RH821frontcover.jpg?1298667926
Dede
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In later years the word sacque comes up freqently in the french fashion
Not the same. They are are not undergarments, they worn over the
chemise/shift and petticoat.
De
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I don't offhand see any mention of what these sacques are made of. Are
they white linen?
If so, as a medievalist, of course my reflex would be to simply consider
these as
Impressive research!.. Of all of them, this is probably the closest:
http://ny-image3.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.256039843.jpg
...but the necks are rounded, and snug. They are also older than the pattern
date.
Thanks!
Dede
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Are you talking
The majority, at least, appear to be cotton and are hand sewn.
Dede
--- On Wed, 9/14/11, Chris Laning clan...@igc.org wrote:
I don't offhand see any mention of what these sacques are made of. Are they
white linen?
If so, as a medievalist, of course my reflex would be to simply consider these
I will attempt photos next Wednesday during our next scheduled sort the vast
pile meeting. Assuming my teenager can teach me to use her digital camera by
then... (yes, I am technology-impaired). Also, the lighting is terrible.
Dede
--- On Wed, 9/14/11, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com
Bear in mind I'm no expert, but they really do appear to be something a woman
would have worn. Not sure if any have laundry marks, but that would cinch it
as we know all the initials of the entire Reed family.
Perhaps she was introducing sacque as a generic term? Like shoe could
describe an
I would assume that VCR refers to video camera recorder or some such thing.
At least that is what the term would have meant in 1995. Of course, we all
know about assumptions! ;) Did someone make a recording back then? Maybe
it's stashed in your archives somewhere.
Ginni Morgan
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Back at the Reed Homestead... we are moving on to the next pile -- stacks and
stacks of shirt-like garments with no closures (other than a few with ties
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