On 08/11/2013 20:14, Robert Paulson wrote:
For someone who tries so hard to sound logical, it is sad you can't make a
simple deduction.
Are you cutting and pasting lines from Dr McCoy or something?
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I don't know why you think writing an essay makes you more credible. Every
argument you make is purely based on your personal opinion. As far as
anyone can see you lost all credibility here when you kept repeatedly
claiming that changing IPs doesn't result in major player loss for real
On 08/11/2013 09:39, Robert Paulson wrote:
While you may not personally care about plugins broken by Valve, there are
other people who do. Every TF2 player is not like you. You aren't even the
majority as according to Valve most players don't use quickplay. Ponder
this for a moment before
For someone who tries so hard to sound logical, it is sad you can't make a
simple deduction. Just because you use quickplay doesn't mean you are
qualified to speak on behalf of all quickplay users. Your track record
shows that.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:50 AM, dan needa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
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A server can be listed in the browser and still be in quickplay...
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On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Todd Pettit
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A server can be listed in the browser and still be in quickplay...
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There would be regardless if what valve does.
Sincerely,
Aaron
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wrote:
Yes and now there will be hundreds more jailbreak, freak
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A server can be listed in the browser
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There will in fact be a huge decline in servers this month. Valve and the
rest of the community can finally understand why ads play a substantial
role in the community. In my opinion, i think it would have been smarter to
contact ad
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Ab, this whole thing is pretty much directly YOUR FAULT! You brazenly ran
fake clients on 100+ servers (again) to spoof quickplay into sending you
players. The update before last had
I agree with this. If not for him we wouldn't be having this issue now.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Todd Pettit pettit.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Ab, this whole thing is pretty much directly YOUR FAULT! You brazenly ran
fake clients on 100+ servers (again) to spoof quickplay into sending you
Isn't it illegal to advertise clients on your website that aren't actually
your clients? http://servers.elitepowered.com/
I highly doubt you have Valve as a client.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:11 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with this. If not for him we wouldn't be having this
Unfortunately this will veer even more off-topic, probably, but will Valve
ever take action against servers running with gameplay-altering mods
remaining in QuickPlay? Preventing HTML MOTDs is obviously an action to
make the QuickPlay experience better for players, but it still seems odd
that more
http://motdgd.com/terms-of-service/
http://ads.elitepowered.com/?page_id=176
Copying another company's ToS and modifying it very slightly isn't very
respectable business practice either.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Guardian Cipher guardiancip...@gmail.comwrote:
Isn't it illegal to
server mailing list
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about:blank is no longer valid?
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:
That's correct; #2
There is no point in all this random speculation until Valve tells us why
the MOTD was crippled even more.
- Is it to stop reloading ads every second in the background?
- Is it a step towards removing all ads?
- Is this a permanent change, or is it just a quick hack that will it be
replaced with
Even without an official statement, it's fairly safe to say that this
change was directed toward stopping servers that (a) manipulate the
Quickplay system to send themselves unfair amounts of traffic for ad hits,
and (b) continually reload ads in the background of clients that join.
Dr. McKay
Valve, please add an advertisement slot for banner ads in your games while
joining servers. I've implemented this in a Sourcemod I've been working on
and it seems to be working quite well.
Basically if a server has a sv_advertisment_id set it will look up that ID
in a mysql database and
I don't see how that is safe to say.
If it was meant to stop people from using fake players, it won't stop.
People were using fake players to get donation money before ads were even a
thing.
If it was to stop continually reloading ads, this is an extremely blunt and
roundabout method. I have a
I’d wager that it’s to stop people obnoxiously abusing the MOTD and Valve’s own
customers, and may be re-evaluated at some future time.
Remember that users aren’t just your server’s clients, but they’re Valve’s
customers. If you abuse the crap out of hosting, you make Valve look bad too.
On 8
It's not a bad idea, but since the Source engine doesn't respond to any
clicks while loading the level, users would only have a short window in
which they could click the banner.
Dr. McKay
www.doctormckay.com
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Guardian Cipher guardiancip...@gmail.comwrote:
Plus the idea would have to be usable by other advertising networks should
they wish to use that space. I doubt however that such an idea will be
used. Infact I'll be surprised if Valve takes onboard anything what we say
here unfortunately. Still, it doesn't hurt to voice our thoughts though :P.
TF2 is a free video games that makes money off it's hats and such.
Other than giving people the ability to make money off their game (outside
of the marketplace), why would anyone at Valve consider adding a banner
feature?
Why would any user of a free video game want to stare at some ad (that
I wasn't the one who suggested the idea in the first place, I just merely
commented on adding something further to that idea if it were ever to be
considered, which I doubt anyway. Please direct your questions to the
original person who had the idea of this space.
On 7 November 2013 23:54,
Volvo how could you do this now i have to shut down 30 servers. I guess
i'll only be drinking one bottle of dom perrion with my dinner tongiht fuck
u. What if people liked ads why don't u think abot the end user volvo get
your business plan together
i'm going back to combat arms fuck u
On Thu,
On 07/11/2013 23:13, Robert Paulson wrote:
I don't see how that is safe to say.
I've donned my cycle helmet just in case.
You think that will be enough?
Does everyone here really prefer Valve to kill off a little competition
rather than trying to get features back? Whatever happened to the
When do the changes take effect?
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This means no more pinion advertising for the users connecting with
matchmaking? :)
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:
We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server operators
should be aware of:
1.)HTML MOTD's will no longer
Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games?
Thanks,
Kyle.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:
We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server operators
should be aware of:
1.)HTML MOTD's will no longer be shown by clients that
When next update ships.
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Todd Pettit kirjoitti:
When do the changes take effect?
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Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games?
Thanks,
Kyle.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:
We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server operators
should
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Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games?
Thanks,
Kyle.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher
soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support
Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games?
Thanks,
Kyle.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:
We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server operators
should be aware of:
1.)HTML
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Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games?
Thanks,
Kyle.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM
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Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 6:29:32 PM
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I'm not concerned about change 1 but change 2 in that regard ;)
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:26 AM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote:
Couldn't you just leave the txt
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Would those who connected outside
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
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I'm not concerned about change 1 but change 2 in that regard ;)
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, November 06, 2013 2:41 PM
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Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use html on
quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html
, November 06, 2013 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support
Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use html on
quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html
completely
, November 06, 2013 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support
Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use html on
quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html
completely
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support
Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use html on
quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html
completely
My only concern with this change is that with a HTML motd, you can keep a
MOTD central. That's a bit harder to do with a text MOTD, unless
motdfile_text can be defined as a URL to a textfile.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:
We're making two
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Would
: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:40:53 PM
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I wasn't so sure about this, and honestly doesn't affect me because I run
trade servers and jailbreak, but it seems fine. If you join the server, you
don't have to download any HTML junk and don't
: Aaron Thompson rmesc...@gmail.com
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I wasn't so sure about this, and honestly doesn't affect
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I'm not concerned about change 1 but change 2 in that regard ;)
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Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:51:21 PM
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There would be regardless if what valve does.
Sincerely,
Aaron
On Nov 6, 2013 6:50 PM, Todd Pettit pettit.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes and now
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