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Mark,
Thanks for the clue about scripted logons. I'll check with my SAS Connect
folks. Two more showed up after the cleanup. I'll also test the other
suggestions.
Bob
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Tom,
You and Tony are right about the one I had to force. It could have stayed out
there.
Bob
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Hello List,
Someone know, if have a product to produce account reports from ZOS ?
Our system, is ZOS 1.12.
Thanks very much.
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Hal,
I am able to reproduce the STARTING status as you described using HOD and
PCOMM. But as soon as I closed the emulators, those sessions went away too. The
plot thickens...
Bob
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Hal
There are several on the market. I also believe there are several on the
CBT Tape.
Roll Your Own is not too difficult, once you can get management to
decide what to charge back for, especially if MXG or MICS is available.
Be sure to include on-line disk storage and tape storage if applicable.
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Hello List,
Someone know, if have a product to produce account reports from ZOS ?
Our system, is ZOS 1.12.
Thanks very much.
Sergio,
Could you provide details on what an ACCOUNT report would produce?
Are they TSU/STC/JOB accounting information (CPU Time, Start Time, End
it was in this case far less writing to fix the bug in the code than it
would have been to document the intricacies of the misbehavior
I have a design mantra that is a corollary to what I wrote earlier: it's
easier to code to good documentation than it is to document bad code.
Charles
Maybe I should quit butting in here, but these comments touch a nerve.
That is not what SMP/E does, is not a refutation of Robert's complaints
and mine, but a confirmation that it fails to support needed function.
When I had a bunch of programmers working for me I would sometimes have
CA-JARS ?
Regards Lim ML
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Hello List,
Someone know, if have a product to produce account reports from ZOS ?
Our system, is ZOS 1.12.
Thanks very much.
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CA-JARS ?
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Still run from ZOS ?
Tks
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Ming Liang
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Assunto: Re: ACCOUNT Product
CA-JARS ?
Regards Lim ML
On 11/01/12
Well, if IBM still started with markup (DCF / GML etc.) for their documents,
then they could use a different set of markup handlers and output something
that would be a good start. If they're using something else for document
creation, I think doing a 'save as' to certain document formats
All,
Could this be tcp/ip going away, I.e.; timing out for some reason almost
sounds like it
Regards,
Scott
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On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov
wrote:
Hal,
I am able to reproduce the STARTING status as you described using HOD
Hello Lizette.
How are you ?
I spoke with a person here, from Computer Associates.
They have a CA JARS product, that may be what our boss want.
I got to CBTTAPE and download some samples there, very good, like FILE019.
With this, I can get this report for example :
0 JOB START START
Sergio,
First thing you have to do is get a set of agreed upon specifications of what
is wanted. Then you can figure out what product does what you need. Or you
might be able to modify a CBT program to do what you need.
Don't forget about how you are going to use the results. Do you just
Sergio:
As others have said that are quire a few products out that that do
something similar, at either CHEAP or $$.
Usually the more $$ gets you a lot more customizability as to reports.
If you don't want to spend money there are FREE programs on the CBT
Tape (www.cbttape.org)
There are
I have been asked what the common ITIL term in the industry is for Mainframe.
Basically, these are the questions:
1) What term is used for the Mainframe System itself?
2) What are the common names of the Mainframe Organizations in the industry?
The larger organization as a whole and not the
When I read your questions, I had to admit that I have no idea what ITIL
stands for, so I looked it up. According the The Free Dictionary site:
Information Technology Infrastructure Library - (ITIL) A method of organising
the system and network management departments of large organisations.
Hello
we have a Product on z/OS, Compiled with C++ Compiler under z/OS V1.8.
And we are running now z/OS V1.11 and soon V1.13. The Product still run's OK.
But parts of it, we have to recompile sometimes and we do this by running the
old V1.8 C++ Compiler with an old LE V1.8 SCEERUN/SCEERUN2 on
Let me throw a Tivoli product into the esteem group of solutions. Be familiar
with all that were mentioned,
I would say that TUAM is in the same league. Plus you can include Enterprise
accounting. If you already have
Some/all of the Tivoli stack for performance or capacity planning, TUAM uses
It is not an exclusively British undertaking. In particular, the
Japanese are heavily involved.
Googling 'ITIL' will yield a great many glossaries, introductions,
certification curricula, etc., etc., etc.
The entire movement is long on terminology, standardization, and
bureaucracy and short on
I'm also curious: what is the goal?
What do you want to report?
CPU consumption?
Elapsed time?
What - and why?
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Really? A Userid of MainframeJunkie for an email address of themeddler1
and then this question without a signature line??
I have to wonder what's really behind this question, but perhaps others see it
less cynically than I.
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
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W dniu 2012-01-11 18:18, MainframeJunkie pisze:
I have been asked what the common ITIL term in the industry is for Mainframe.
Basically, these are the questions:
1) What term is used for the Mainframe System itself?
2) What are the common names of the Mainframe Organizations in the industry?
Lots of possibilities. Look for the bottlenecks. d net, bfruse and similar
for TCPIP. Sessions, intrdrs and the like. Then possible hardware problems,
we had to put milking machines on one particular side of campus to clean
them up, then you think everything's running good and the tech says
Hello,
The people here, want split the cost of Mainframe to users that use it.
For example, the user consumed 10% of CPU, then the cost of CPU is $40.000,00.
So for this user, the price was $4.000,00.
This is only a example.
Regards.
Sergio
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Have you ever seen mainframe advertisement?
I just realized that I have never ever seen any mainframe advertisement
in Poland. (*)
Of course I'm aware that mainframe marketing is not the same as washing
powder business,
There is a lot more than just the cost of the CPU.
CPU
DASD
TAPE
Staff (System programmer(s), operator(s), etc, etc)
Power
Cooling
And a myriad of other things.
Chris Blaicher
Senior Software Engineer, Software Services
Syncsort Incorporated
50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
P:
Patrick Vogt wrote:
my Question:
How long will be possible, to Compile with the old (z/OS V1.8) Compiler/LE on
STEPLIB but running under an actual z/OS ?
Any experience ?
Thank you,
Patrick Vogt
begin horttooting
The Dignus compilers can operate in IBM compatibility mode,
and we support
Peter,
You are correct in what ITIL stands for. The British started it. It
migrated to the US when companies wanted to cut costs. Several years ago I
was required to go through training and passed my certification for the
first level.
ITIL is a collection of best practices for running a
There are some good products available in many vendors (CA, BMC, etc...)
that expand control over account.
Keep in mind that 10% of use o CPU, consume DASD access and some
gigabytes stored in you storage subsystem.
This access to DASD means too IP or SNA traffic. This envolves gateways,
On 1/11/2012 12:32 PM, R.S. wrote:
(Disclaimer: this message is non-technical, but still about mainframes)
Have you ever seen mainframe advertisement?
I just realized that I have never ever seen any mainframe advertisement in
Poland. (*)
Of course I'm aware that mainframe marketing is not the
Here is a play list (23rd of 34) IBM advertising videos. This was is
titled IBM take back control' from 4 years ago. Subtitled.
My favorite was the servers was stolen (turned out they were
consolidated onto 1 Sys Z machine.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:32 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-NpLu2xC38
This is the millions of dollars of stolen servers ad.
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ago.
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This reminds me of ISO 9000 about 20 years ago.
Bill Fairchild
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[ snip }
P.S. Not related to the topic above, but IMHO hot news: I just heard on
TV that former directors from IBM Poland and HP
That agrees with my experience: it all depends on how (or if) the emulation
session is closed.
So, don't close the emulators. Just power off the PC. Or yank the cat5. Or
just open more emulators.
But I've seen users with literally dozens of emulators open and minimized.
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Yes, I suspect so.
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All,
Could this be tcp/ip going
The requirements:
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2. Follow it.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Bill Fairchild
bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
This reminds me of ISO 9000 about 20 years ago.
Bill Fairchild
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Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it
A common phrase used in ITIL to refer to mainframes in my shop is
Enterprise Server. However the term Mainframe gets used more than
Enterprise Server does by techies.
What is true about any best practices or new process that a company
uses; it is only as good as how involved the employee's are
I suspect ITIL (cert org?) refers to mainframes by their proper nomenclature as
designated by the manufacturer and ditto it's OS. To me, mainframe is
synonymous with IBM for both manufacturer and OS, but Unisys uses the term
mainframe as well. No doubt people here will like to be exact with
Not Mainframe but IBM Muppets in training films
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtCqcKzSVCU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK5CE3T0aoU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowwNXKEt4k
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I went to my sandbox system an hour ago entered 'logon' with no userid. On
the screen I see
IKJ56700A ENTER USERID -
At the bottom of D A,L display, I see
*LOGON* OWT
Now I thought that this 'problem' had been fixed a long time ago, at least
as an option. I can't find it...
.
.
On 1/11/2012 1:33 PM, Skip Robinson wrote:
I went to my sandbox system an hour ago entered 'logon' with no userid. On
the screen I see
IKJ56700A ENTER USERID -
At the bottom of D A,L display, I see
*LOGON* OWT
Now I thought that this 'problem' had been fixed a long time ago, at least
Given a load library and a list of member names, I want to be able to
perform these steps in a batch assembler program:
1) Load a program load module into storage
2) Determine if the program is COBOL or something else (the only other thing
it would likely be is assembler)
3) If COBOL, access the
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:24:57 -0500 Patrick Roehl b...@roehl-consulting.com
wrote:
:Given a load library and a list of member names, I want to be able to
:perform these steps in a batch assembler program:
:
:1) Load a program load module into storage
:2) Determine if the program is COBOL or
When filling in an ITIL based Configuration management database, I used the
basic server
definition for a mainframe. Then I created new entities for LPAR being part
of the
mainframe server, and Virtual Machine also being part of a server or an LPAR. I
also use
the Virtual Machine definition as
I believe that wheel has already been invented ...
Take a look at the PDS command, available from the CBTTAPE. It maps load
modules and lists information about the compiler that was used to create
this program.
So, no need to write your own program.
Regards,
Ulrich Krueger
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Hi Patrick,
If the machine you are running has the IBM Debug Tool you can use that to
determine the compilers used to compile each CSECT in each load module in a
PDS. Look in the IBM Debug Tool Users Guide (V11) in Appendix G. It gives
a lot of information. You can then use REXX or CLISTs to
Check out CBT file 321, program COBANALZ. It has a lot of (assembler) code to
poke around inside a loaded module to try to determine the programming language
in which it was written, for languages from MVT days to the present.
For some of the oldest load modules it isn't necessarily easy to
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:24:57 -0500, Patrick Roehl wrote:
Given a load library and a list of member names, I want to be able to
perform these steps in a batch assembler program:
Check Roland Schiradin's COBOL Analyzer: File #321 @
http://www.cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm
Norbert Friemel
Try using option OFFSET and make sure NOOFFSET is not specified or
amend NOOFSET to OFFSET :)
LIST and MAP will give you the generated ASSEMBLER (OBJECT) code
David Stewart
Mainframe Technical Specialist
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Look at Roland's COBNAL program on the CBT tape/site.
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Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 16:27
Given
tyvm, Seymour
What we have since discovered is that the ACF2/NETMENU Session process has a
side batch file non-SAF process that contains the applications specific to each
user and the NETMENU session manager does a simple look up in the batch file in
lieu of 100's of SAF calls for each user to
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Given a load library and a list of member names, I want to be able to
perform these steps in a batch
assembler program:
[ snip ]
The programs only need to be identified as Enterprise COBOL or not.
In 000e01ccd0af$db1c7030$91555090$@roehl-consulting.com, on
01/11/2012
at 05:24 PM, Patrick Roehl b...@roehl-consulting.com said:
Given a load library and a list of member names, I want to be able to
perform these steps in a batch assembler program:
1) Load a program load module into storage
Barbara - I've asked our account team to add us as concurring with the
requirement and to be added to the Interested Parties list.
The requirement has been rejected with this:
User Group Number - MR1026112735
Title - Provide a utility to remove residual systems from the sysplex CDS
IBM believes
Sérgio Lima Costa wrote:
The people here, want split the cost of Mainframe to users that use it.
For example, the user consumed 10% of CPU, then the cost of CPU is
$40.000,00.
So for this user, the price was $4.000,00.
This is only a example.
But your mainframe's economics doesn't work that
Patrick Vogt wrote:
If we want to be actual, we need to Compile everything of the Product
NEW with the new Compiler to got it run. But that's too much Work to do.
Is there something in the following document that causes concern?
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