I'm kind of surprised that only 22 people/sites have joined the beta from the
list here so far, I had expected a bit more.
One thing that was pointed out when I asked was that I apparently made it seem
like you had to continue to use the SyzAUTO/z product at the end, and I'm sorry
that I
joining the beta test.
Brian Westerman
Syzygy Incorporated
p.s. For those interested, the SyzCMD/z (automated command scripting) and
SyzMPF/z (automated Console processing) products will be entering a new beta
phase in July/August, SyzSPOOL/z (the spool management and automation product
There is also the Syzygy Automation Suite, it's a comprehensive, yet far less
expensive solution than most.
www.SyzygyInc.com
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It's embarrassing to admit, but I actually did this to myself in one of our
products (SyzMPF/z) which automates console messages. We also use a name table
to hold the address if the getmained area for later processing by multiple
address spaces. In my haste, I had created a situation whereby
) bringing the
subject up on a public forum. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about my
relationship with IBM.
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Sorry if this sounds like a marketing entry, but it probably will.
A little over two years ago I wrote a little product (called SyzTXT/z) that
works with our other products but especially with the console message product
(SyzMPF/z) so that if something happens that the site feels is important
We have migrated several sites from z/9 and z/10 to z/196's and z/114's so far.
Whether or not you will need to do a lot of work will depend more on what
release of the OS you are at. You can contact me offline if you have
questions, or here if you don't mind letting other people chime in as
Hi, BPXwdyn is used to dynamically allocate (SVC 99), I don't think the output
statement details are available to it.
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Dan sent some code that I passed on to Jeff which looks like almost exactly
what he was looking for. It gets the OUTPUT statement information (and he even
had the fields that Jeff was looking for in the code already) and I don't think
he could have been happier.
Thanks to all who responded.
Hi,
I received a question today and I have looked around but can't find where the
answer is for this guy. He is looking for information that is contained on the
default OUTPUT Statement on a JOB that his program is meant to run as part of.
He knows that there can be multiple OUTPUT
He wants to be able to access the OUTPUT statement fields from inside his
program. I think he wants to be able to pass information, or act on the
information contained there. He said he spent weeks trying on his own, and I
looked around, but couldn't find any access path through the control
Does anyone have an example of using SJFREQ RETRIEVE that I can send to Jeff?
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I agree,
We make sure that when we say we are staffed, that we mean on site at one of
our 3 branches, not by some company that just answers the phone. The way we
handle it in times when no one is around is that the support line phone system
will automatically page someone after 5 minutes if
You may have a point, but our view is that good software shouldn't have to cost
an arm and a leg to be good. Mainly we are a consulting firm, and software
started as a sideline, but once you get over a couple hundred clients, you
have to devote more time and people resources to it, so now it's
.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@bama.ua.edu, on
12/29/2011
at 08:03 PM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said:
I'm sorry Schmuel,
That's Shmuel!
giving a vendor access to their site
There's a difference between permitting an audit and allowing
unrestricted access. I've certainly been
on the fence cheering for blood:).
Brian
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:55:37 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com
wrote:
At 20:42 -0600 on 12/29/2011, Brian Westerman wrote about Re: cpu /
machine identification:
We have DR support in our software, but I was under the impression
that most
.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In 9482792948874353.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@bama.ua.edu, on
12/29/2011
at 08:29 PM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said:
The one thing I do know is that vendors have the right to protect
their software and as long as it's reasonable
Apparently we seem to be getting closer and closer to that.
Brian
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:36:52 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In
cajtoo5-kjv_9ilhjagbqxfjaazyefkjdt8xrcrvvpnpuug0...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/29/2011
at 11:11 PM, Mike Schwab
for the new machine.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Brian Westerman
brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote:
So the question should be, who should bear the cost of that? The vendor,
who has no control over the choices, or the site that wants to run the
software?
Unfortunately, this whole
Seems sort of counter-intuitive. :)
Brian
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 +0100, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote:
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I think I know that guy. He must work at just about every mainframe site in
the world. :)
Brian
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:14:13 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 20:32 -0600, Brian Westerman wrote:
I didn't realize that a employee can bind the site, but I can
Okay,
Snipping the other stuff makes sense, but I'll keep my reply on top. I hate
trying to skip through only to find that the person interspersed the comments.
Brian
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:55 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:29:02 -0600, Brian
Sorry about that, I was sure that the original messages were appended, but I am
obviously wrong. I think I probably just clicked on the send message without
pressing the quote first.
Sorry again,
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Okay, it appears that I have to click on the quote on the bottom right BEFORE I
type anything here, so now I think I have it right. Is there a way to turn on
Quoting as a default?
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:36:49 -0600, Brian Westerman
brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote
the capability to check.
Brian
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:02:06 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In 7026723933836234.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@bama.ua.edu, on
12/28/2011
at 07:58 PM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said:
I really don't
be much easier to
leave the comment you are replying to in your reply.
Not trying to be flippant, mind you. :-)
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:47:21 -0500, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote:
On 28 December 2011 20:58, Brian Westerman
brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote:
I don't mean to be flippant, but I seriously almost spit my diet coke all
over my screen when I read the previous reply about allowing
We have DR support in our software, but I was under the impression that most
of the DR sites were running the OS under VM and they simulated the serial
anyway.
I suppose their are sites that do not run the DR under VM, but don't the sites
who don't run under VM know the serial number ahead of
I don't mean to be flippant, but I seriously almost spit my diet coke all over
my screen when I read the previous reply about allowing the software company to
audit their system. :)
I really don't think any site would readily agree to have their site audited
by a software company for
We have our products tell how long they are licensed for (how much time is
left) on each startup. When it gets within 45 days we make it highlighted (but
still rolls off the screen), then at 15 days it stays on the screen. Then when
it expires, we still have a grace period, that varies with
That's a good point, our code does put out the message at startup about the
site it's licensed to. But if someone was going to run it purposely and not
pay, zapping the one instance of the name is not as hard as changing every page
of a 300 page book.
The licensing scheme isn't to make life
That works for a site license and I agree with it for that type of license, but
what about sites that purchase a single processor license and have 4
processors, or a systems programmer that decides that he can fix his friends
problem by sending a copy of the code to them, or the one that
In my college math classes we called it a negation. Which doesn't make it
correct, and I no longer have the Calculus books from way back then.
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Most times the problem is that you have specified one SCDS for your changes and
are trying to activate another one. Sometimes people forget to put the DSN in
quotes on one page, and sometimes they try to activate from a completely
different dataset than they think they are using. This is
Yes, the dump codes you are getting would be helpful. Possibly you are
getting normal IDCX messages and are confusing them with dump codes. If
you cut/paste the syslog portion that you are referring to or the joblog it
would make you question much easier to answer.
Brian
If you purchase the iPad Cloud Browser app you can use both Flash and Java on
the iPad. It actually runs a full Firefox session and streams the content to
your iPad. The finger movements are a little different from the standard ones,
but easy to get used to. There are a couple others that
Our SyzMPF/z product ( http://syzygyinc.net/SyzMPFz.aspx ) also performs these
types of changes. Among many many other features, you can highlight/lowlight,
change color, change video mode (i.e. make in reverse video and/or blink), and
you can also issue other highlighted or operator alter
The ASID is available at the point just before the message is sent to the
console. Our SyzMPF/z product gets the messages before they go to hardcopy
(you can have SyzMPF/z keep them from getting there if you want), and one of
the fields that I have access to (and we allow you to use in the
I sent them the correction for their problem, there were actually several
issues, and I decided to give them the easiest one to fix the problem.
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I second that vote. :)
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First,
The CONSOLxx member segment that you printed most likely has nothing to do with
the console that is trying to be used to issue the message. We are not talking
REAL consoles here, (Unless your REPLYTO utility is specifically using the
MASTER console, in which case you would not be
Hi,
The old AUTO program that you are using has long since been replaced by
SyzAUTO/z (I rewrote AUTO over 15 years ago to correct all of the issues and
add more functionality) available at http://syzygyinc.net/AUTOz.aspx , but AUTO
isn't the cause of your problem.
What has happened is that
The solution here is the same as the solution I provided you to the original
question.
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Why not do both, you can set up the Console Interface code (for modify), set a
wait on an ECB and generate the stickynote message yourself (which you can
DOM whenever you feel like it). That way you don't have to use WTOR at all,
but you have all of the good parts (minus the replyID, which you
maintained/wrote
them both, so I should know. ;)
It's not free, but very cheap, plus IBM-Main members get an additional discount
so the final price is $2,500. The software is the same price no matter how big
(or small) your physical CPU is.
http://syzygyinc.net/AUTOz.aspx
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I forgot to mention that SyzAuto/z provides complete 24x7 command and job and
task scheduling and we have over 300 site users.
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Hi Mike,
Exit 52 (and the corresponding exit 2) are for modifications to the JOB
statement, not the JCL, so that's not the place to add your two cards (unless
they are to be added to the JOB card). The proper place to change JCL and add
cards within the JCL stream itself (under JES) is in
Hi,
BEFORE you IPL z/OS 1.8 on the z/10, you have to install the pre-requisite
maintenance to z/OS 1.8 that is outlined in the
Upgrade 2097DEVICE bucket, (which you can get from the IBM technical help
database). There is a section of that bucket that specifically deals with z/OS
1.8.
You can use the DS/6xxx under OS/390 (back to 2.7), but you cannot use some of
the DS/6xxx features. You also MUST use system Z hardware (i.e. z-series), you
cannot use a 9672 (or anything older than a z/800).
We ran fine with a customer converting on a z/800 with OS/390 2.7 who converted
Hi John,
A very similar function to this is part of our newer releases of SyzSPOOL/z.
We have made part of the SyzSpool log (where everything is indexed) file
available to the web interface, depending on your settings on the web side of
things, and what the mainframe side has set, you can see
, many other features.
You can go to the company web site at www.SyzygyInc.com for more information.
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That brings up two questions. Why did you use or need the newer version of the
SVC and the second question is how do you go about getting it?
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Hi,
On a 6800 the unit checks are at the LSS level, not the device, so the good
news is that your physical devices are more than likely okay.
Have you tried a graceful shutdown and restart of the 6800 while the z/9 was
down or at least not connected?
The only time we have had any IPL issues
Hi,
The Adabas is at 7.4.3 (with PTF's). They are not allowed to go to version 8
because of the fixed price purchase they did a few years ago, (at least not
without an up front charge of a huge amount of $$$)
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Actually, that could be a tremendous help. They are running Adabas 7.4.3+PTFs
(which makes them technically 7.4.4, according to SAG), and z/OS 1.10 is fully
supported on the z/196 and z/114 without the lifecycle extension. Obtaining a
copy of z/OS 1.10 is problematic, but doable.
Are you
available in whatever format you need them in (tape or
transmittable), and I can make any necessary HCD changes before I make the copy
of the system.
So, is there anyone willing to help out a California University with this?
Please feel free to contact me on or off list.
Brian Westerman
Hi Kurt,
We have recently migrated two sites from CA-Sort to DF/Sort. The only real
issues you can run up against are when the site decides to use the sort exits
because they are not compatible. Other than that, they are fairly
interchangeable.
We probably do 10 or more of these migrations
It's not particularly a good idea to dynamically allocate the spool output
dataset (which contains the email itself) from where the code is running at the
time.
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You can do that with our other product (SyzSPOOL), but it's not really the same
thing, we wanted to (and did) put together an easy to read synopsis of what the
task did. Also, there are some tasks that don't have JOBLOGs, but still
require notification when/if they come down. The product is
John,
I think I would go with the UNIX route that you wanted in the first place. The
people at your site are going to have to deal with UNIX at some point. z/OS
keeps moving more and more to offloading a lot of functionality to the USS
component, so the sooner they learn to deal with it the
Hi,
That's a good idea, but SysREXX can't get to the job's control blocks by the
time the ended message comes out, many of them are already gone and/or (even
worse) in the process of being freed. I originally implemented it as a
SysREXX, but was limited to just the MAXCC, none of the
Hi all,
I have a small dilemma. I have designed and written a semi-new facility that
automatically sends the task condition codes (including the max CC) and stats
via email. I currently have it implemented and in Alpha testing in two modes.
We have provided this via a manual method (via
Unfortunately the SyzEMAIL part of things is different depending on which
implementation is used which means that we would end up with maintaining two
completely different SyzEMAIL programs which are drastically different, but so
close in function that it's possible that things could get
On 4 separate conversions to 1.12 the client had issues with some of their Java
applications that ran fine under 1.4 at the old release of z/OS. We reran
with Java 1.6 and the problems no longer existed. The problems had something
to do with the way classes are obtained or maintained when a
I have a UJV exit that we market which allows you to create variables for BATCH
jobs as well as STC's. At our customer sites we use it to control the DSN's of
the backups and hundreds of other jobs. The users also take advantage of the
capabilities, (the ones that know how to read the manual
I honestly would be very surprised if IBM reused the platters. The components
might be able to be reused, but the disks (for the old Sharks, and DS6000's)
are destroyed. I would imagine that the DS8100 is handled the same way.
Also, as good as I think I am, I think I would be hard pressed
It does take quite a bit longer to load the newer versions, and the 64 bit take
longer to initially load than the 31bit ones, but the actually execution of
your user Java code under the newer versions is quite a bit faster,
especially between 1.4 and 1.6.
There is a doc on the IBM site (I
), but chances are that the internal commands will probably do the job as
well or better.
Again, I hate to bring up the marketing stuff, but in this case it applies
quite well if you are not interested in the System REXX approach.
Brian Westerman
Syzygy Incorporated
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I also have been working with MVS since before (just) 1980, and I can
honestly tell you that the correct answer is It depends. The important
part is to actually do the maintenance and not get (too) far behind. There
are a lot of sites that tend to get several releases (years) behind and then
Sorry in advance for the marketing plug,
There is the older free AUTO product on the CBT and I think there is another
scheduler that actually uses JES2 to do the work. Then there is SyzAUTO/z,
which is not free but is both quite inexpensive and 100% supported. It
allows job submission based on
Thanks,
I wanted to make sure that there wasn't a TAMCC like John was looking for.
I didn't see it anywhere. Possibly there is a macro that he had used
before. Thanks for your help.
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Does anyone have an assembler example of using the TAM (Test Addressing
mode) instruction?
I was asked how to use it, and I have never had to in the past so I've tried
to find a writeup, and I can see that CC0=24bit, CC1=31bit and CC3=64bit,
but can't find any examples anywhere.
Any help that
critical.
The new version is available at a reduced price to IBM-Main participants,
but if you describe your problem with the old version I can try to help you
through it.
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Can you tell who/what is paging, (look in RMF).
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I tried the contact via the web site a few days ago and still have not heard
back.
I called (last Thursday) and was told that someone would get back with me
asap.
I guess asap takes longer than it used to.
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So you guys actually had (or have) a capacity based agreement with SAG?
Is it based on the same sub-capacity numbers that IBM uses or is there a
special SAG way of doing this?
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I was asked today if Software AG had a sub capacity pricing model for Adabas
and Natural. My first inclination was to tell them to call SAG, but they
told me that they were unable to get any kind of response back on the
question, so I tried myself, and I have not been able to get a response
The occurrence fields are 1 byte hex fields, and their offsets change
based on what they are set to as I outlined before.
The original reason we wanted to use DFSORT is the ability to change the
data by passing it through a translate table (ALTSEQ). The reason we are
doing this is to obfuscate
Hi,
I have a difficult request from a programmer and I'm not sure about the answer.
They have a flat file which has fields that can occur multiple times within
a record, and there are multiple of those fields in the same record. They
want to be able to use DFSORT to overlay (some of) those
I looked into the problem, and I think if you specify PROFILE
VARSTORAGE(LOW) at the beginning of your REXX exec, you will be able to run
without changing the convert program to flip in and out of 31 bit and not
have to worry about it during the life of that particular exec. (make sure
you change
I looked through my old notes and found that JCECVTDB is/was not authorized,
it isn't meant to be, but it also isn't 31bit. Since you are getting an
0C4, is it possible that you have inadvertently assembled/linked things and
made them 31bit?
There are a lot of issues that will pop up over the
Hi,
What version of TSSO are you using and what version of z/OS are you using it
under?
Did you assemble TSSO on the level of the system that you are using now?
You can contact me offline if you want to discuss how to set things up
correctly.
Brian Westerman
There is no shame in not knowing how to complete the setup, especially on an
ADCD system. The first thing that you have to remember is that not all ADCD
releases had the complete set of ported tools, there are many parts and they
are not all necessarily there for you to use yet, but the good news
Based on results from several conversions from 1.9 to 1.11 I have seen that
the overhead has decreased between 5% and 7%. This is an average of all
types of workloads, but the biggest gains are at sites with more OLTP going on.
If you need more details, feel free to contact me offline.
Brian
Please accept my condolences on your loss. Losing a parent is not easy and
I hope that you will see past the current loss and realize that not only is
he in a much better place, but that you will meet again.
Brian
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I also have a offline backup and restore program that we are considering
marketing in the near future for MUCH less than FDRInstant with FDR.
It's currently in Beta, but there are no known issues in the past 40+ days.
It's purpose is to be able to backup a flashcopy volume, or simply to be
Hi,
Is anyone aware of a way to change all user's passwords at the same time?
I want to copy a racf database to a test LPAR, but I don't want everyone to
be able to logon with their OLD password. I want them to get a preset
password that I make for that new LPAR only. The RACF DB is not
Ugh, I was hoping that there was a command to do it for me generically.
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V ,online
V ,console
Then it should take off right away. (assuming it's defined as a console in
consolxx)
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It's a matter of what you feel is acceptable. Keeping a master catalog that
may/will contain obsolete entries is not acceptable to me, but may be to
some sites. I'm not trying to judge any sites on what they feel is
correct. It's a clean way to migrate (new master catalogs) and in the case
of
There are SSI's for them, I think open is 16 and close is 17.
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If that's what works for you then by all means you should stick with it.
I have performed literally hundreds of upgrades and I have never kept the
old master catalog as the master for the new system. Mostly it has to do
with properly setting up the master catalog in the first place. The only
IBM does not refuse to look into a difference when it's undocumented, no
matter what your previous release was. Possibly you need to go back and
present the issue again. I suppose that it's possible that you were dealing
with someone who was inexperienced in how to handle the problem. If they
Not that I want to show my age, but I actually had to do that back on MVS/SP
to provide the highest condition code mods, then IBM changed things a bit
and I was able to develop the exit 8/16 combination that did it, then they
finally added the code themselves.
At the time I was spending a lot of
I received an email today which at first seemed really simple to say yes/no
to, but it started me to thinking. I was asked if it's possible to
dynamically add a step to the end of a job via some system exit. At first I
thought to tell them to use JES exit 4/54, because I've used it to add and
Hi Gil,
Yes it appears to be entered for a // line, but when I asked her, she said
that they rarely use that as a delimiter. I can see in HASPRDR that he does
know when he gets to the end of the JCL, but for some reason, doesn't call
the exit again like he does for several others (like
Thanks Tim,
As you can see, most of these are not requirements to run on a z/10,
although some of them add new functions (which you are not using now). The
only ones that are really necessary are the ones that add support for HCD
and IODF definitions of the 2098. If you already have that
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