RE: [ilugd] Re: Linux Delhi January 2004 Meet
I love the idea very much. R u sponsering meet at corbett. I will definately come Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: Linux Delhi January 2004 Meet
I just wanted to remind you (Mr. Lingam) to give my python book to Pankaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the meetinng if possible. Thanx in advance Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OT]solaris query anyone??
Recommended way is to run cups. Cups allows one to setup lpd server as well. Supreet PS: Do'nt have any solaris experience. But I guess solaris would have all the ports of open source packages. On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 17:46, vivek khurana wrote: Hi! Everyone Any one happens to use solaris?? I need some help regarding setting aprint server on solaris. It will be really helpful if anyone could lend me solaris cds. with regards vivek = When DESTINY has closed all the DOORS; Jump out of the WINDOW __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Xserver screwup after crash
The xfs socket in /tmp has gotten deleted or ownership changed. Either remake the socket in .font-unix file AFAIK or change following things in /etc/X11/fs/config there is tcp no listen or something like that put # in front of it. Restart xfs then in /etc/X11/XF86Config add Fonts tcp/localhost:7100 HTH Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Minutes of meeting (18th January 2004)
Just in relation to (patent) color-depth formula by Raj Mathur. Color in applications are based on colormap that the application chooses or it inherits from Xwindow. These colormaps are really indexs maintained by the video card for colormmaping. These colomaping algorithms vary from video card to video card. And driver takes care of the mapping. So there is in most cases a direct relationship between color depth used and the video memory required but that cannot in most cases be expressed in single formula. Another aspect of concern in terms of video memory is video caching. Application can have a double buffered output. Some application like ones which use OpenGL rely on the library for handling the double buffering. In most gaming video card the library uses the video memory rather the RAM for doing double buffering. That increase the requirement for video RAM. Sudev showed that you need only 2MB of video memory to run LTSP client. At this juncture RAJ came up with following formula to decide the video memory required (resolution * no. of bits of depth)/ 8 Following the invention of formula and nomination for Raj for Nobel Prize in mathematics, sudev described how to setup LTSP server and clients and showed how policy manipulation on the server is reflected on each client. After description, there was a live demo of LTSP client boot. The presentation continued with demonstration of export features of openoffice. This presentation ended with discussion of cost involved in setting up LTSP project. Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] samba problem with win xp
One sure shot way is to use Samba v 3. Samba 3 provides all the features which Xp expects out of a CIFS server, So no reegistry key changes, no dirty work. But that does'nt mean that samba 2(point) releases cannot serve windows XP clients. One would need to see what is really happening. LOG file snippet for instance should be included. Nobody can give exact answer, unless you ask a precise question. WinXp not working with samba is to ambigious a question to ask. So if you could post some relevent log files. You will get better response Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ltsp-discuss] Memory analysis
Linux will use up any amount of free RAM it will get. It starts buffering the data that it need to write on disk on RAM, and caches in common libraries. One should watch out, How much memory is being used in application space. If the memory requirement is high swap usage will start. That is really a indication on how much memory is really required. Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Minutes of meeting (18th January 2004)
anyways, what is exciting is, that using thin-clients, several people could simultaneously work on such demanding tasks through a centralised high-powered server, which in turn could throw its back-end processing to a farm of renderers or grpahics processing nodes, if need be this part of ltsp really excites me. :-) LL LTSP or NO LTSP. Xwindow protocol is a way of sending keypad and pointer events to the node which is actually running the application. The major advantage of such scenario is low-processing power clients and underline highly effcient /underline usage of resources like memory/processing power/secondary memory on underlineone/underline node. What I do'nt understand where you got the idea of cluster or render farm on backend. You can refer to an article in Network Computing about thin client solutions few issues back. Xwindow protocol has no (free) version of load balancing mechenism. So multiple X Application server may not be possible as far as my knowledge goes. There are commercial solutions with X protocol (load balanced), one can take a look at that, but that means the cost benefit between running X to something like citrix. BTW there are better ways of doing render farm/ image processing using a protocol called RENDERMAN from Pixar. I think you must have come across that name. This we can further discuss off-list if you like Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Minutes of meeting (18th January 2004)
AFAIK giving artist a PC/MAC/(or any thin client solution) platform at any cost does'nt really matter. The central compute server cost anyways is too high in comparison. Example of costs: a normal via c3 based PC with disk can be assembled at 10,000-15,000. A normal compute node from a cluster vendor would comes out at 5,00,000 - 25,00,000. And for a motion picture you would require 10-100 of such machines. Cost quotes come from: eSys which is vendor of thin PC. Cluster costs derived from HP, IBM sites (Power4, IA64). Racks cost a seprate Cost effectiveness is not a debateble point in case of LTSP being used for studios. So lets go on to other points then (for and against) diskless solutions Management- Administration and management cost definately is much lower in case of LTSP or any thin client solution. But that also means, one needs to standardize on certain applications, like choosing Gnome as desktop solution, galeon as browser for example sake. Will a artist (graphic artist) allow somebody to control how underlinehis/underline desktop would look like. If not, then central management point also goes for a six. Renderman protocol does not specify that it could only be used with local application. One can directly call remote render farm from a underline cheap and smart /underline host, and get a good performance since most of the network traffic would only be renderman calls. Which in case of LTSP would also include X protocol and NFS request. So anyway cost benefit which I am not to sure there is, would be offset by the costly network infrastructre needed for accomodating X protocol, NFS and Renderman request. PS: The links you specifed are too preliminary in terms of details regarding Renderman. For detailed specs of Renderman protocol, there are various books on Amazon. For cluster vendors who provide RenderFarms which are compatible to RenderMAn protocol: http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/ Tough there are many others also. I am not doing advertisement for this company Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] TALKS : 7steps to RMS
Same ghissa pitta topic 'copyright and community' Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] M$ in human rights violation in china?
Fundamental questions is if freesoftware is used to pull the strings, who is going to stop it. Its already happening, I can tell you that. Technology can be and will be used and abused more so by the state till people are educated and empowered to understand their rights. I dunno where people get this idea that technological changes in the machinery with change the system. So many changes at technological level have happened but state machinery still looks straight from the pages of kafka Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] LA2004 update
amphitheatre is next to the TERI office Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: Lotus Notes on Linux!
Tarun has spoken the golden words. Supreet ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] OpenSource Accounts package [was]:[LIH]Kalculate
Take a look at compiere. It is a java based tool. Needs a JDBC backend. Very featureful. The Tally killer Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] eclipse for suse 7.3
First of all you need to make sure, you have jdk running. Then download appropriate version of eclipse from eclipse.org with swt of your choice Will need to check if suse carries compatible libraries Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] [Possibly OT] About the GNOME 'Foot' logo
I would love to see slashdot style fair warning to these dudes and dudettes ;-) will try to post it on slashdot.org Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Gentoo
As a developer who is trying to get juice out of the system gentoo seems very attractive. But one problem I faced is lack of eco-system around the distribution. I would like to see people making binary gentoo packages and exchanging them. I do'nt see any other way to install system in two hours. When I tried it took me 3 days to get and compile all the packages that I needed. And I am not of kind who would try too much stuff anymore. I can list all the stuff I need in one line. galeon, evolution, development tools, gaim, xfce, emacs, some other support utils. Time period required to compile major part of the packages are given below. This I am reporting for a PII with 192 MB RAM XFree86 6 hours Mozilla 5 hours evolution and support tools like bonobo, gnome etc 5 hours linux kernel 45 minutes xfce - 20 minutes glibc - 4 hours Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
When is the April meet? I would love to come see and redhat/debian fight. Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Oracle 8i on 4 Xenon processors
On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 19:03, Yashpal Nagar wrote: Hi ILUGD, I have Proliant ML 570 Xenon 2.2 GHz, 4 CPU server. It has got 38 GBs 8 Nos SCSI hard disks. What we want this server to be Oracle 8i as the database server with Linux as the Operating system. I have some queries relating to this- Oracle is offcially supported on ES version of Redhat AFAIK. So recommended is that. Installing and running on debian/RHL 9/fedora has not been a problem Is feodra core 2 a worth to tried out as Database server or Redhat 9.0 or 8.0 is still better? Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Fedora Bug
To add to the bug list If your SCSI uses aic7xxx. Use acpi=force as kernel parameter while installing. This is for Fedora Core 1,2. regards Supreet On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 10:28, Pankaj Kaushal wrote: hi all, According to this[1] entry in the Fedora bugzilla, Fedora will not boot to windows partition using grub menu. 1 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980 Cheers! Pankaj ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] mozilla profile in use
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 10:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the same problem once when I was working on mozilla and due to some power problem the system suddenly boots up and when I again started mozilla it gave me the same user profile problem and then I solve it as follows: There is a .mozilla directory in ur home directory go to that. This will contain all the user profile which u have made for ur mozilla to work with. Then go to the directory of ur profile( the one that is creating the user profile problem). This dirsctory in turn again contins another one go into that one.Here when u do ls -l u will see some files and directories. There will be a file(which will be blinking) of name lock and that will representing a link towards the loopback address. This lock file will be created whenever u opens ur browser for a particular profile and whenever u exists normally it will automatically remove but on accidently closing mozilla it remains there and then creating problem whenever u start it again. Thus removing this file using rm perhaps will solve ur problem because it has solved for mine. To clearly explain the above: Gecko engine based browsers including all versions of mozilla, firefox, kmeleon, galeon, epiphany etc. have following directory structure for the preference settings: Taking specific case of galeon on linux $HOME/.galeon/mozilla/profile name/ The lock file is created in this directory for the instance of browser running with profile name. In case of file system is not cleanly unmounted like in case of power failure, this lock file still remains which does not allow another instance of browser with same profile to run. regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] samba server
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 05:57, # Subodh # wrote: hi ! I have activated samba on my Linux m/c with the following smb.conf ; [global] guest account = ok workgroup = MYGRP [scratchdisk] comment = STmpdisk path = /tmp read only = no public = yes but the machine does not shows up in winxp m/c network. although I am able to ping each one from the other. testpram gives no error. now where to trouble shoot. Lot of stuff is unclear For one Windows XP is in workgroup mode or domain. In case its domain mode, the domain controller has to register your file server before you can serve to a domain. Second - Did you test this setup on same machine using smbmount etc. Third - You should reproduce the relevent log files from Samba. This will give some idea one what is *really* happening. There have been huge discussions on samba in this list and many others. One can go through them for similar issues faced by other users In case it still does'nt work, you can always get back :-) thanks Subodh regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] MOVIE CAPTURING FROM SONY HANDYCAM IN LINUX
On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 20:18, Linux Lingam wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:24:51 -0700 (PDT), MALKIAT BENIPAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I have recorded a celebration movie in my sony handycam. Now from my Sony handycam, I wish to record this movie on my hard disk. Can someone guide me how I can do this in Linux. I shall be very much thankful to you. I am using Mandrake 9.0. you need a firewire card in your pc. on the sony the port of firewire is called iLink. someone else calls it 1394. all the same. the linux stuff: http://www.linux1394.org/ Not really, a firewire will do good, but RCA out will also do. In case of RCA output from handycam, you will need video capture card. Then you could use array of software to capture in linux. From mplayer suite, mencoder does a very good job. So does cinnellera, avifile etc. Ideal scenario would be to capture and store and then edit For that mencoder does very good job. It can store in lossy or lossless formats depending on the requirements. Following link takes you to the review of video editing softwares available on Linux, the list of tools is not comprehensive, i must add. http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7852 it is a two part series If you have access to Windows box, you could use VirtualDub for Windows. HTH Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] punjabi translation
On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 11:07, Puneet Kaur wrote: Hi I am new to this group and I want to offer my Punjabi translation services for LINUX. Can somebody suggest on this..??? You can first go to gtk po set, which may have incomplete translations. You can suggest better alternatives to the words being used. yudit and other utilities allow u to write po files etc. visit: punlinux.sourceforge.net indlinux.sourceforge.net on irc.freenode.net join #indlinux and participate in there activities Thanks Puneet kaur regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Invite suggestions--LFY CD
Take a pick If the theme is lets say firefox (browser reloaded) then include: firefox base browser(linux(redhat, debian, suse), windows, mac) extensions(The most popular ones atleast) themes browser tips(in html, pdf) maybe as a side-show all the brothers and sisters of firefox like thunderbird) Installation procedures, with featured articles and views of people using mozilla ( Lot of such stuff is available online). Plugins(on basis of license agreement) procedure of setting up plugins j2re and procedure of setting up java with mozilla/firefox Databases MySQL, PostgresSQL, Firebird admin tools (PHPAdmin) SquirrelSQL Client JDBC drivers, CPAN DBI stuff, PHP-Mysql, php-postgres etc. Ximian desktop 2 Evolution and all its brothers a sisters Window Managers XFCE, (flux/open/black)box, windowmaker etc etc Media Players mplayer, xine, xmms-mpg123, all codecs best idea would be to make a CD with 50 MB with atleast 50 pages of online/offline documentation. Take any of the themes and cover it in every facet. This will really make the CD's something to look forward to. Altough this would require more effort than downloading and burning. But i guess if it was just about downloading software and putting in on there hard-drive, people could do it by themself. regards Supreet On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 19:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Linux Enthusiasts I am working on LFY CDs for the next month. Any suggestions on IMP software that should be bundled on the same will be more than welcome. Pls send ur views to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Niraj ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Invite suggestions--LFY CD
On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 12:27, Amit Sharma wrote: --- Supreet Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a pick If the theme is lets say firefox (browser reloaded) then include: firefox base browser(linux(redhat, debian, suse), windows, mac) extensions(The most popular ones atleast) themes browser tips(in html, pdf) maybe as a side-show all the brothers and sisters of firefox like thunderbird) Installation procedures, with featured articles and views of people using mozilla ( Lot of such stuff is available online). [snip] Log Analysers : Sendmail : SMA Squid : SARG, Webanalizer, Sawmill Anti-Spam : SpamProbe Anti-Virus : clamd and its engine (amavisd) Webmail : Squirrelmail Mysql : Latest version (that supports date functions) Documentation on : Diskless PC's on Linux Wireless Connectivity Linux Backup solution (Centralised) how to keep your OS patched OS : Xandros Desktop Well we could go on adding to the list pick your favourite application here. But that is not the point. On first level, a CD with magazine could be a alternative to downloaded junkie. But that has become common minimum denominator. To increase the level of interest in the CD, it should carry the eco-system around a particular theme rather then just bunch of utilities. Utilities can be downloaded easily now but the eco-system around it cannot be. You need certain sense of understanding of application and the context of the application. It would be much more enriching experience for the reader if eco-system and the context of application is explained and stuff related to it is shipped in the CD. regards Supreet --- L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Video confrencing on Linux
For video conferencing there are various non-free solutions like: http://www.microwarehouse.co.uk/product.aspx?sku=e410886MSCSProfile=584C39EC14974C113536C602F8F7C5B793D1B41DA08ECDDF01B174AC52F115E3918DFB41EAD4EC6877F343CC2FF37CF7CFEF44FFD80FD9583CFAA7659281CE91F0A6830D84253E8FF6136751EFC6BA3C3F075D23B9A4F2D62FE9866CCEADC4EE5A015AEB1DB98403BC84A628A4ADE8D3C0B8111B3859A273D7668B19136A5AF914CEDD0775F29F79 If you want linux based programs to provide the kind of features being provided by above given hardware, it does'nt. But it does perform well compared to net-meeting I took gnome-meeting for a test drive, it is cool. In my case we need to modify the firewall settings. Setting it up for two internal networks with firewalls in-between is slightly tricky, but not impossible. HTH Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] How to send SIGTSTP, SIGCONt signals to a script scheduled using cron
On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 14:40, Saurabh Agarwal wrote: Hi all, I had scheduled a script using cron and got pid of it when it is running as it is running for a long time.The script is somewhat like cmd sleep 10 cmd2 sleep 20 .. trap go figure out This is scheduled using cron now i want to send SIGTSTP signal to it to suspend it and SIGCONT to resume it but these signals are not working please help urgently. kill -SIGTSTP pid Thanks HTH Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] punjabi translation
A project has been started to translate, linux applications to punjabi, by four engineers on voluteer basis. project page: http://punlinux.sourceforge.net/ But translation is a long drawn, low to no paying work. So no one knows, till when will they keep the effort going. So, I was wondering, if under linux-delhi banner, we could start punjabi translation project, which will also contribute. I have done 2 pot files for XFCE, and check them in. Without prior discussion, I have already used the language team name as: Punjabi Language Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the translations. If there are more people interested, we could actually form a real team for such a purpose. Since the idea is mine. I am responsible for the logistics etc. (in linux-delhi tradition) hope to get some response Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] punjabi translation
I was bit hesitent before because of two reasons: 1) I am in bangalore 2) My punjabi is flaky Since you are around, we could meet-up and discuss the issues, which are inevitably going to crop up. Well the way to translate is pretty easy. You need unicode font, I am using Saab.otf, which I personally think is very nice. Then a input manager, which is part of gnome or kde. Look for input manager plugin in your favourite desktop. then you need Kbabel or gtranslator to translate the pot files. I could demo the whole procedure regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Blocking MIME/file type using SQUID Web Cache Proxy Server
First off, I just wonder, which thread is it related to dear Peeyush. On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 23:02, Peeyush Maurya wrote: I wonder why some guyz took all the pain to configure SQUID without read the conf file or searching around... Since you are so sweetly telling, that you know squid so damn better, why would anybody want to go through so many links, and that to when the lustre of the language used is very boring compared to yours. its safe for them to switch to windows anyway ...everything iam mentioning here is already in squid.conf (if u can give ur ass some pain and read it).. PLEASE READ AND ADD THIS IN /etc/squid/squid.conf ### ### THIS IS SQUID'S ACL ### ### [snip..] ## now save the file..and chomod 655 /etc/squid/filedeny now restart squid service squid restart And do let me know if it works.. Using your paradigm of giving some pain to my ass, I actually fired a search on google and the first search result was: Dansguardian - True Web Content Filtering for All http://dansguardian.org. And the mosting interesting part is you do'nt have to write the loong configuration file like the one pasted on your last mail. Regards, Peeyush Maurya http://peeyush.tk http://linux-fqs.com (under const.) regards Supreet PS: Dansguardian integrates well with squid ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] punjabi translation
Sorry, for delayed reply... On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 10:23, Raj Mathur wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Supreet, Supreet == Supreet Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Supreet A project has been started to translate, linux Supreet applications to punjabi, by four engineers on voluteer Supreet basis. project page: http://punlinux.sourceforge.net/ Supreet But translation is a long drawn, low to no paying Supreet work. So no one knows, till when will they keep the Supreet effort going. Supreet So, I was wondering, if under linux-delhi banner, we Supreet could start punjabi translation project, which will also Supreet contribute. No issues, but as Sandeep pointed out in his later mail, wouldn't it be a better idea to have a centralised translation point rather than scattered ones? If you still feel the advantages of having the translation under the ILUGD banner outweigh the disadvantages, I'd be glad to ask Suresh to set up an ilugd-punjabi list and assign it to you. There is no centralized point as such, every one is on, his or her own. Few mailing lists are there. In the sense of co-ordinating, I would try my best to keep in touch with other projects. Supreet I have done 2 pot files for XFCE, and check them in. Neat. My Punju's even worse than yours, so I'd rather sit on the sidelines and watch :) Supreet Without prior discussion, I have already used the Supreet language team name as: Punjabi Language Team Supreet [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the translations. [snip] regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Screenshots for punjabi (pa_IN)
Hi, Got gtk, xfce and many gtk based apps with pa_IN translation so some screenshots http://supreetsethi.net/pa_IN/file_manager_galeon.png http://supreetsethi.net/pa_IN/gnome-terminal.png http://supreetsethi.net/pa_IN/xfce-setup_screen.png regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Clusters
Question is what kind of job is it. Compute intensive or IO intensive There are various kinds of solution according to requirements pls specify regards Supreet On Monday 18 October 2004 12:27, Gurpreet Sachdeva wrote: Hi Guys, I need to process one script that needs high processing power. I was thinking if Linux Clusters/Distributed Computing can help me in achieving that. Any inputs/pointers in that will be highly appreciated... Regards, Garry ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] screen shots of favourite applications, desktops
Hi, I was wondering, if people could post me some screen shots for there desktop environment, favourite applications, games, etc. I will be using it for a presentation( still at conceptual level). submitters would be acknowledged ... and I will send to you the presentation, it whatever form it comes up regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Thunderbird on Windows - Common Address Book
Or web-based ICAL compatible application Opengroupware is one of them Pankaj kaushal wrote: Amit Sharma wrote: Hi, i have about 10 PC running Thunderbird 1.0 for windows. is there anyway i can have a common address book for all, so that people dont have to maintain seperate address book og thier own and the central address book does the job? LDAP. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Multiple sound applications run simultaneously?
The /dev/dsp is a channel handled by sound driver. In most cases, only one process can lock on to the channel because sound card/sound driver are only capable of handling one channel at a time. There are exception to this, like Creative Live! card/driver can handle upto 32 channels, mixing the appropriately before rendering them on your speaker. OTH, one can run daemon like esd or arts to do the mixing in software and produce the output. In this case, esd capable application just posts the sound data to esd(agent) which is locking the /dev/dsp HTH Supreet Viksit Gaur wrote: Hullo! Whats the deal with running 2 applications using /dev/dsp together? Lets say i want to run xmms and play quake3a, I can't - Q3 just won't start. Killing off xmms immediately starts it. Also, what if i'm using xmms, and suddenly need to see a video in mplayer - mplayer gives me an error saying that it couldn't open /dev/dsp. Is it because xmms locks the file, or changes its access permissions? or is it just some setting somewhere which needs to be changed? Cheers! Vik = -- Viksit Gaur me[at]viksit[dot]com viksit[at]linux-delhi[dot]org http://viksit.com 'Not all who wander are lost.' - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] volunteering and speaking procedure for linux-delhi workshop at linux asia
Hi, I have been kind of out of circuit, for a while. But today I have been able to finalize on coming to delhi. I was wondering what is the procedure for volunteering and speaking in linux-delhi workshop at linux-asia. Sorry for sleeping over, while this might have been discussed. Following are the topics, I can prepare and talk about. Performance tools for gcc toolchain specifically for c and c++ FreeBSD perfomance tuning g++ and STL localizing you desktop. Following things, I can volunteer for ... Downloading and burning some images and bring, that might be required to be distributed manning the stall regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kernel 2.2
Nix Cix wrote: Hi, I require some Red Hat distribution with kernel version 2.2. I tried 7.3 and above but they have 2.4. Does some remember the last RH version that had kernel 2.2? I specifically require some 2.2 series kernel. Try finding CD's for RedHat 5.2, PCQ dark green cd in case you have that. It uses 2.2 kernel I also cannot find some site which has these old distributions for download. Can someone point me to sucha link? Regards, Nix ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ . HTH Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google and Open Source
Raj shekhar wrote: goopy/functional: This library brings functional language attributes to python. AFAIK functional extensions to python are available since ages. So wondering what goopy adds to it. regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 'init' related BASIC QUESTIONS
Also
1)once init process is created, every other call to init only writes
named pipe
2) In case you have appropriate patches, the process ID's would be
randomly generated and hence init might not be 1 process at all
regards
Supreet
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 23:24 -0800, santosh dubey wrote:
i have a basic questions related with 'init'. it is
parent of all process. with pid 1.
when we reboot machine with 'init 6' , it will launch
a new process called 'init'. since it is 'init'
process so it should have pid 1 which is not possible.
so my question is whether init 6 passes message to
init or initiates a new init process?if it creates a
new process then how two processes lives in memory
with same name.
1. init normally has a pid 1 only because by default it is the first
process executed by the kernel. At boot time, the kernel can be asked to
run any program instead of the init program, and in that case this
program will have the process id 1. As an exercise, you can try using
init=/bin/bash parameter at the boot prompt.
2. So whenever you run init manually at the shell prompt, a new process
of init is executed. This process sends an appropriate signal to the
parent process(PID 1) based on the parameter you give to the program.
Read init(8) ('man init') for the details.
3. No two processes in memory can have the same process id. There is
nothing however which restricts different processes having the same
process name.
- Sandip
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Re: [ilugd] modprobe bttv problem - Mandrake 10.1
After issuing command modprobe bttv and running xawtv, neither any channel is displayed nor any sound out comes. But from root when I issue the command as follows then everything is fine : Seems like ownership issue on /dev/ filesystem Change permission according to your requirements on /dev/video* devices rmmod bttv modprobe bttv card=23 please guide where the problem can be. Thanks in advance MALKIAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] yum install exits on no Public Key
/etc/yum.conf has a configuration parameter which allows you to make GPG check mandatory or not gpg_check I think HTH Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
Python me. Maybe So here is the list of resources I know of 1) docs.python.org Python is well documented. The library guide is something you can print out and keep as reference 2) Read Source code. Python code is most readable of all programming languages. Possible candidates Zope mailman redhat-admin scripts. 3) For RAD one can try out twisted. Network programming cannot get easier than this. 4) __doc__ is your friend if you do python programming. Just do __doc__ against any function you want to get details of and you will get a printable help. Python has a large self documented library. O'rielly books are good starting point. If you keep one under you pillow, you might get some back pain, but nothing which cannot be resolved with the amount of money you will make after reading this book. 5)Take a look at blender for learning how to write glue code 6) psycopg for connecting to PG. And ending this mail without adding anything that KG as not mentioned already regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
Important Dive into python is a nice book to start off. http://diveintopython.org/download/diveintopython-pdf-5.4.zip its available free. Buy a copy, to keep it that way :) regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] community project (need contribution)
Pankaj kaushal wrote: Though I am not interested in contributing to this project I have a suggestion. you can write a 'bot' which goes through various mailing list archives, sorts it out for you and then you can use a cheap indian labor to find out what was the *perfect* solution. Worth a try ... you'll get a big database of questions and answers, Including, How to get women to use linux /tongue in cheek/ Its like asking people who have failed a exam, what is the trick to pass one. They can only come up with reasons why you will never be able to ... I do not know why you would want to do this, a good search engine is all you need. Luckily for me I know how to use two. P. Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] what should i go 4
gaurav wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tushar Shah wrote: Hi, None of these technologies are free - and it is very hard to make either of them work on Linux I agree to closed,non-community nature of these technologies (Don't flame me on JCP , it is more of a sham ) but I don't agree to the fact J2EE(its specific implementation in Java) is difficult to run on linux .It's fairly mature and stable when running on linux as had been my exp so far and I have never tried mono on linux so no comments abt .NET . There is lot going for java in opensource, from RAD tools to JVMs(embedded to enterprise level). Jakarta project by itself is producing, full ecosystem of products which can drive any entreprise need. For details look at http://jakarta.apache.org tomcat, jmeter, jakarta-commons require special mention. Apache group also is working of JVM called harmony, which promises whole lot of goodies I suggest you stick with Java even though JDK/JRE is still some what closed there are lot of brilliant opensouce project s apache's jakarta, objectweb , Jboss etc I suggest you go www.jakarta.apache.com,struts etc currently app servers /java works best on linux so dont worryfor IDE download eclipse ...Java is great way to start and really fun and gets you good fat jobs too ;-) regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Find out Developing Studio like as MS-Visual Studio
Udyan Kushwaha wrote: hi raj would u like tell me any developer studio on the linux platform who is equilent as a MS-Visual Studio and all facilites such as COM/DCOM, socket programming, SDK etc but do'nt tell me about QT and other tools who comes from linux. I nid complete visual studio for the development of Real Time programming as well as openGL programming. Please help me. Somebody tell me ATLib software but i did'nt find out. Have nice time exploring, but COM/DCOM is MS(Microsomething) stuff. If you need to do COM/DCOM please go ahead use MS Visual Studio. Closest deal in free software is to have GCC cross compiler for windows if these are the requirements 1) COM/DCOM 2) Real Time Programming 3) Socket programming 4) SDK (I assume windows SDK) 5) OpenGL It might fulfill some of the needs Rajesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005
I volunteer to give a newbie focused talk regarding C++ development environment and development cycle in linux. Could cover following topic IDE's compilers turbo c compatibility (for people who have been working with it in collages and schools) gcc specific options c++ dev ecosystem (STL, libraries ... etc) can have a Q and A about the subject Suggestions welcome regards Supreet On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 16:13 +0530, विवेक ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote: On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry post the meet.. -- need a place to host the event/meet and all - minimum requirements being a lcd projector and minimum seating capacity of 20 i dont know if anyone is itching to talk about something - if you are - do mail the list with an abstract how about a newbie developer focus on this one ? something like Raj's startup on perl or Mary on Python or Java environment on Linux by sandip. -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005
I think boost requires a talk be itself. But yes, could point it as a example of cross-platform library which could be used for mundane stuff like file manipulation, portable math etc. regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 08:44 -0800, vivek khurana wrote: --- Supreet Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestions welcome Can you cover Gnu make, how to generate/buld makefiles etc etc. Sorry to disappoint you, but again auto(brother,sisters,family)conf/make and other build systems like ant and JAM deserve a talk in its own accord If we find enough interest, I could explain parts of it and how they fall in place in whole build jigsaw puzzle regards VK regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Troubles with Anjuta include path
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 02:01 +0530, Mayank Jain wrote: Hi, I'm using Anjuta 1.2.4, have a project directory with $PROJ/include $PROJ/src where respective .h .cc files are present. But while doing make, anjuta reports error that it cannot find my .h files. Do i have to tell anjuta to look for my headers in $PROJ/include or will it do by default? BTW, when creating the project, it itself created the include directory added the headers there. Anjuta project menu has a option configure project. In that add any includes directories that is needed for project. I will try to cover this and other build issues in anjuta on 25th. Do come for the meeting Thanks -- regards, makuchaku --- http://makuchaku.info When you speak out with the courage of your convictions, people listen! -- Valmik Thapar, Wildlife Conservationist. regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Share your creative work through GNU linux
On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 07:13 -0800, vivek khurana wrote: Dear all, Now you can share your creative work thorugh GNU/Linux. Linux delhi and Sarai have come up with a website for sharing creative work under Creative Commons License. For more deatils pls visit http://creative.linux-delhi.org You are being a bottle neck to creativity. Users should be free to register to the site without requiring any High authority approving them. sadly that is not happening. Please remedy that problem Site is also covered in this months(december 2005) Linux For you Magazine. regards VK regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Here is the last one for Raj
Yesterday's news, of Raj moving on, is shocking. I met him through ilugd and came to know better of him through various activities of ilugd that he helped organize. He was brutally honest and that made him special. He was special because with those piercing words, he could get through to you better. Yesterday night, I visited his drawing room, which played host to many linux-dellhi events. Niyam playfully called it opium den. The opium den was filled with people, Andrew, Gora and Friji. The trade-mark green camouflage was lying life-less on the low diwan. For a second, I imagined a cup of coffee and creme, which was kind of ritual commencement of linux-delhi meetings, with Kishore bringing the coffee and Raj arranging for cups and creme. The cup of coffee is not there any more, that table is missing and more importantly Raj has checked out of the opium den. -- Supreet Sethi Ph IN: +919811143517 Ph Skype: d_j_i_n_n Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/supreet.sethi Twt: http://twitter.com/djinn ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Opinion solicited for an article
Rooting an android device is not straight foward yes or no. As tech savvy individuals of this forum, we would say yes. But android is not desktop linux where you may want to control every thing. Android is consumption device, giving chance to user to consume voice conversations with friends or facebook. Few brave souls will always root their devices and some will even go further and install cynogen mod which is whole custom build. As my understanding goes google discourges rooting. Sadly manufactures of devices don't provide upgrades which devices are capable of cornering consumers to rooting and unofficial builds corner On Feb 23, 2013 12:30 PM, Priyanka Sarkar efyed...@efyindia.com wrote: Dear All, One of our journalists is doing a story on 'How safe is rooting your android phone? Or is it worth rooting your android phone. Would be great if we get some great inputs from you on the same. Please let us have your your opinion/ views. Regards, Priyanka ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Off-topic: Bitcoin's Potential for Social Change
Bitcoin is evil. Comparison to FOSS movement is ill thought out. Although there is political channelling of thought which is common between the two, the actual implementation is bitcoin is marred by several questions. To start with: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? I know RMS and Linus, I can talk to them (although they may not want to talk to me, which is besides the point). So Bitcoin is designed by entity with unknown affiliation (this is critical although it may not look at outset) Secondly: When bitcoin infrastructure was started Satoshi or some (one/people) pretending to be Satoshi, he started mining coins himself. At the time, the yield was much better than it is now. Which means Satoshi may have millions of coins which leads to asymmetry of money. Thirdly: Most transactions in bitcoin are connected to Mt. Gox someway or the other. Which is about 90% of transactions or more. For a transaction to be truly decentralized transactions should be routed through multiple gateways. Somehow none other exists. It would like you can develop code in opensource but it can only be hosted at github. There are several critical issues with bitcoin which hopefully other online currencies will address. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Tavish Naruka tavishnar...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings fellow-Linuxers, I have a vision to share with you. Whether you call it a utopia, or a dystopia, I leave up to you. There is great power in people's numbers. I feel that a critical mass is gathering behind FOSS and BitCoin. I feel that these Davids can potentially overthrow Goliaths. Please read my latest blog article and share your opinion: http://ownlifeful.blogspot.com/2013/04/bitcoins-potential-for-social-change.html I think that this ongoing experimentation with bitcoins will serve as a basis for creating future currency, but in its current form, there is just too much bias towards early adopters, and hence no confidence in people who have been too late to the bitcoin goldrush; and this will be the downfall of bitcoin in current form. -- Regards Tavish Naruka ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Supreet Sethi Ph IN: +919811143517 Ph Skype: d_j_i_n_n Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/supreet.sethi Twt: http://twitter.com/djinn ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Context based search engine.
On Apr 26, 2013 5:50 PM, Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been working on a word sense disambiguation framework as my final year project at college. The framework is complete and fully functional. While working on it I realized it could be used for making a search engine which will be context sensitive. Following will be the salient features:- 1. Identify mirrored content. 2. Expand search domain, for instance a page describing computer, can also be searched by search queries like computing device, machine, calculating machine etc. First prototype of the program is ready and if someone could provide a stable computing resourse I would like to put it to the test. I had a very quick look at the web page and also looked at source code. The layout, introduction or source does not explain two important things 1) disambiguation framework 2) how is it a search engine It talks about hpc and grids. Maybe you pasted the wrong link Source code is available on http://newerahpc.googlecode.com. Varun Mittal -- Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Open letter to data.gov.in
Hello, First of all, I would like to congratulate team behind data.gov.in for the effort to create this website. I hope, this will create a bloom of data driven research in governance. It will additionally serve well as a starting point for Computer Science or Statistics Graduate for their projects. Within this framework of dissemination of certainly valuable data, I would like to provide my inputs after walking through the website and attempting to process some data-sets. In this context, I would like to also add that my point of you is entirely from engineers and software integrators perspective. 1) Clear explanation of fields (Issue of lexicon) In several files, the data contains abbreviations which have not been fully explained. MGNREGA is quite popular scheme, but it stands as an exception. It is easier to compress terminology when individuals you are working with on day to day, even essential. But an outsider who plans to use this data will need to visit concerned department or research through Internet to get to understand what the data means. She might as well go and collect data from concerned department in the first place. 2) Question of relations Several data sets are related to each other. To illustrate Summary Of Railway Statistics From 2002-03 To 2010-11 is kind of aggregate parent of Number Of Persons Killed And Injured In Railway Related Accidents From 2002-03 To 2010-11. But this relation has to be figured out by consumer of the website herself. The sites does not help establishing that relation by default. You could definitely filter data-sets by ministry but that necessarily may not be related data. 3) Question of data dimensions Excel is great data tool. In fact, I would go further and say, for several people it may be their first introduction to programming. Sadly Excel does not help think through data dimensions. That is something user has to do herself. To illustrate and example (fictitious) Companies registered Delhi, 2011 40 Arunachal Pradesh, 2011 10 Arunachal Pradesh, 2012 20 It is clear that 3rd dimension which is year has been compressed. This requires extra effort from data consumer this clean data. It would be helpful if the team does some preliminary checks on that data for these logical follies 4) Non availability of data Not appllicable is different from non-available and is different from zero which is additionally different from empty. In several cases the data points have been marked as NA. What does NA mean in this context? We could assume several things namely: - Data is not available - Data is not applicable - Data is zero - It is empty data These are different from each other in sometimes subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways. I think data should have clear labelling of these four types 5) Certificate issue (important) There are several file format options on data-set. Except for Excel no other format is usable. I would go further and say that people in data.gov.in team have not tested other formats at all. The certificate for https is not valid. NIC root certificate is not recognized by any browser. However hard anyone tells me, I will not install a certificate because people at NIC are lazy enough to not get their certificate included in all the browsers. In several cases, it is not even possible to install a certificate. Like in case, if someone uses a tablet to visit the site. Additionally browsers are not the only http clients. I use R and I could import data into R directly if valid certificate exists. To show an example of how my R session went with data.gov.in data R version 2.15.3 (2013-03-01) -- Security Blanket Copyright (C) 2013 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing ISBN 3-900051-07-0 Platform: i686-pc-linux-gnu (32-bit) require(RCurl) Loading required package: RCurl Loading required package: bitops read.table(textConnection(getURL( https://datacms.nic.in/datatool/?url=http://www.data.gov.in//sites/default/files/DETAILS_OF_GROSS_TRAFFIC_EARNINGS_1.XLSformat=jsonp ))) Error in function (type, msg, asError = TRUE) : SSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed R along with SAS and SPSS will be the primary tools of processing data I assume. I think comprehensive testing should be done that the availability of data via these tools is flawless I am sure team at data.gov.in will address at-least some the issues immediately. I wish best for their endeavour. -- Supreet Sethi Ph IN: +919811143517 Ph Skype: d_j_i_n_n Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/supreet.sethi Twt: http://twitter.com/djinn ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Off-topic: Bitcoin's Potential for Social Change
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Supreet Sethi supreet.se...@gmail.comwrote: Bitcoin is evil. Comparison to FOSS movement is ill thought out. Although there is political channelling of thought which is common between the two, the actual implementation is bitcoin is marred by several questions. To start with: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? I know RMS and Linus, I can talk to them (although they may not want to talk to me, which is besides the point). So Bitcoin is designed by entity with unknown affiliation (this is critical although it may not look at outset) The bitcoin protocol and clients are free and open, so how does it matter who initially invented them? Secondly: When bitcoin infrastructure was started Satoshi or some (one/people) pretending to be Satoshi, he started mining coins himself. At the time, the yield was much better than it is now. Which means Satoshi may have millions of coins which leads to asymmetry of money. This is a valid concern, however I don't think of it as that big of a problem. Early adopters need to get rewarded, otherwise a new and disruptive currency will never gain traction. Early adopters should be rewarded, no doubt but not at the level of creating asymmetry in the economy. Traditionally during issuance of currency government should incur net loss by holding some amount of gold equivalent. Not any more. Additionally more than even how much bitcoins Satoshi holds, Who is Satoshi? Thirdly: Most transactions in bitcoin are connected to Mt. Gox someway or the other. Which is about 90% of transactions or more. For a transaction to be truly decentralized transactions should be routed through multiple gateways. Somehow none other exists. It would like you can develop code in opensource but it can only be hosted at github. The reliance on MtGox is only a temporary concern, as new Exchanges are bound to come up. If you don't like MtGox, don't use it. You definitely don't need to use it unless you plan to day trade. There was a bloom of exchanges which disappeared. In fact, if you search enough, you will find code written by people doing arbitration between two exchanges. Not anymore. There are several critical issues with bitcoin which hopefully other online currencies will address. What other currencies do you think are more promising? -- Anupam -- Supreet Sethi Ph IN: +919811143517 Ph Skype: d_j_i_n_n Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/supreet.sethi Twt: http://twitter.com/djinn ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Off-topic: Bitcoin's Potential for Social Change
On May 12, 2013 4:39 AM, Ashwin Dixit ganeshacompu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Supreet Sethi supreet.se...@gmail.com wrote: ... Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Thank you Supreet, for inspiring me to investigate the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. I think I have guessed the true identity: http://ownlifeful.blogspot.com/2013/05/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto.html Cheers, Bit coin is great romantic fantasy which does not deserve a happy marriage. It is beautiful courtesan on whom you spent your computer time and wattage to prove you were her one true lover. You buy her FPGAs and asics. You throw graphic cards at her. You furiously discuss that one glimpse of her with golden b shaped smile. But the affair is going to come to an ugly end. On serious note, bit coin is being pointed at as solution to several problems current currency system has. Firstly bit coin is deeply connected to government backed currency because of exchange and current lack of goods and services available in bit coin. It does provide safe haven for parking mafia money which may end up putting a bad name for all transactions with bit coin. It deeply depends on media portrayal of the currency. Right now it is media darling which may not be the case even few months from now. - Ashwin. = Subvert the dominant paradigm. Repeat as desired. http://ownlifeful.com/ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
