On 3/19/16 23:29 , Rasmus wrote:
We have a bit of a problem with how Linux handles huge pages when you
run out of them.
I've been discussing it with Dmitry and he recently committed a way to
disable Huge Pages in the main allocator to master:
> Why not? The harassment has been nullified.
I agree with your position on most of this, Paul. However, free email, and
thus, Twitter and other social media accounts are nearly unlimited. It becomes
an arms race to try and block someone.
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On 7/14/15 16:04 , Sammy Kaye Powers wrote:
Hello lovely PHP nerds,
There are two open PR's for PHP7 to modify the behavior of the CSPRNG's:
https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1397 (main discussion)
https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1398
Currently the random_*() functions will issue a
On 6/2/15 22:30 , Bishop Bettini wrote:
Hi!
I've measured the overhead for method calls in a variety of environments
(Amazon, Travis, and 3v4l). The results are reliable and here's 3v4l
http://3v4l.org/NsjJR.
Some observations. First, as expected, direct calls are faster than static
object
This RFC trying to simpliy and cleanup the coercison rules, having two
different conversion rules for NULL-scalar
depending on userland or internal is counter-productive and bad. The
behavior you describe as null being
empty value is wide-spread in PHP userland code as well.
I agree here with
because I have a long history with PHP and care about where it is
going. People with dead accounts and who don't care about PHP most
likely don't vote.
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burned. If we had not named them to begin
with, we would not have been in that boat.
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cancelled
are actually in agreement now.
If we don't use a counterpoint style debate in the RFC, then '6' only
has one bullet:
* 6 is the next integer after 5.
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possible. FILTER_VALIDATE_INT does. This is much more analagous to
FILTER_VALIDATE_INT IMO.
$ php -r echo (is_numeric('-0')) ? (int)'-0' : null;
0
I am not intimately familiar with the internals of filter, but I
replaced code in userland like this with filter calls.
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Hi Nikita,
I admit, I have ignored these threads as there was no RFC. So, some of
this may have been covered.
Do you have a good example usage other than a file? I don't find
fopen/fgets/fclose all that complicated. What are the other valid use
cases for such a thing?
Also, not allowing
On 8/12/12 5:33 PM, Levi Morrison wrote:
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Brian Moon br...@moonspot.net wrote:
Do you have a good example usage other than a file? I don't find
fopen/fgets/fclose all that complicated. What are the other valid use cases for
such a thing?
One fabulous use case
I don't consider this a very good example.
That's fine. You are entitled to your opinion. However, you didn't
have to figure out the 106 lines of code that is the Post-Order
iterator. That was a NIGHTMARE and I'm still not 100% confident that
it works as it is supposed to. The generator, on
Well played Moriyoshi. Well played.
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On 3/31/12 10:02 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On Mar 31, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Moriyoshi Koizumim...@mozo.jp wrote:
Ok, I'll try to fix that part. Thanks for the correction.
No problem. Keeping the April 1st RFCs
From your blog post:
All in all, I have tried to eliminate the syntax noise by
reducing the key strokes in the the non-significant parts
of the expression is typing time really the bottleneck for
productivity
Is typing really the bottleneck for developers these days? I must suck
then. I
I like this for the current stable branch, no bc impact and gives a
way to detect such mistakes (not ideal but better than nothing).
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Patrick ALLAERTpatrickalla...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
I would like to introduce an E_NOTICE when an array is silently
converted to a
On 6/2/11 11:08 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
reminder #2, pls do vote here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shortsyntaxforarrays/vote some devs still did
not choose which syntax they want.
I don't really care which syntax wins as long as one of them gets rolled in.
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Stanislav Malyshev, Brian Moon, Kalle Sommer Nielsen, Edin Kadribasic
Contra: Antony Dovgal, Derick Rethans, Jani Taskinen, Lokrain, Felipe
Pena, Lukas Kahwe Smith, Marcus Boerger, David Soria Parra, Johannes
Schlüter, Maciek Sokolewicz, Philip Olson, Ilia Alshanetsky, Daniel
Brown, Jochem
I think it's the exact opposite - the less C code we need the better.
Developing C code is more work. Maintaining C code is more work.
Distributing C code is more complicated. The less this is needed, the
faster PHP is, the better for everybody (except C programmers ;-) )
I was with you until
or strcmp()
yeah, strcmp is your friend there.
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I proposed something similar over 5 years ago. It ain't gonna happen
because PHP language can't support it.
It supports it. Several functions allow you to pass in variables that
are not set and don't throw an error. Not sure what you are talking about.
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which one?
I guess that you are talking about the language constructs like isset and
empty.
they aren't functions.
settype() for one.
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It might be nice to extend it such that if the 1st argument is a list then the
first in the list which is set is returned, eg:
$var = var_set(($_GET['var'], $_POST['var']), 'default');
If that is the usage, I would suggest coalesce() to be consistent with
the same concept in SQL. And
How would str_contains() be different from strstr()?
They differ in the return type
$instr = (bool)strstr($string1, $string2);
done. No need for a new function.
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The absolute minimum is, if you have objections, to be specific, or at
least provide concrete links to specific objections, instead of sending
people to hunt for the decisions manually.
So, anyone that comes on the list and wants to talk about some feature
should just do so without looking at
This is just not happening people. Please re-read all the past
conversations about it. If you come to some sort of epiphany that solves
all of the issues brought up in the past, please submit a patch.
Otherwise, a never ending thread about this *again* is pointless.
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On 9/13/10 11:59 AM, Bharat Nagwani wrote:
Hello,
I am getting this error when using pcntl_fork. The OS is bsd and php
ver is 5.2.3 used in cgi mode.
Fatal error: Call to undefined function pcntl_fork() in...
I have included the ext/pcntl files in the php make. Do I need
another flag/library
On 8/11/10 1:03 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
We've also had quite a lengthy discussion on this topic, and there
was more support for 'weak' typing then there was for strict typing.
Yes, I would like to restate the obvious from my email in May:
Really, I am confused what the argument is about. We
On 8/10/10 3:03 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
like DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR I guess
Tyrael
but, DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR is system dependent. The namespace separator is
not. It is is always \.
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2010/8/11 Johannes Schlüterjohan...@schlueters.de:
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
type hinting
For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the
biggest mistakes in the last ten years.
Is there a summary of what we ended up with? I got so
php -r 'function f(){$f=null; var_dump(array_key_exists(f,
get_defined_vars()));} f();'
So, two function calls? That is not a solution to simply check if a
variable has been created. You are creating an array and operating on
said array. It should be a language construct. Why use an array
Is it just me or are we missing a way in the language to check if a
variable that has been set to NULL exists or not?
is_null() on an unset variable throws a NOTICE.
$var === null throws a notice.
So, you have to use isset()? But, ah,
$var = null;
if(isset($var))
yields false.
Is
The big difference is that different processes do different jobs in
Gearman. All PHP workers in fpm just run what ever code is handed to
them. How do you handle that?
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On 6/10/10 9:56 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
Has anybody thought about adding
[gearman]
worker1.path = /path/to/worker1.php
worker1.pm = dynamic
worker1.pm.max_children = 10
worker1.pm.start_servers = 5
worker2.path = /path/to/worker2.php
worker2.pm = dynamic
worker2.pm.max_children = 4
worker2.pm.start_servers = 2
So, this is a proposed new entry in the ini format? I
The operator that really determines this is 'new' - which is already
documented. So there isn't any ambiguity. Not to say that documenting
the other operators would be bad, just saying there's no ambiguity
here :)
Also, allowing new (blah()); would be a fairly big BC break I'd say.
How? Maybe
I like the idea of type hinting a lot. (See:
http://marc.info/?l=zend-engine2m=102421231114377w=2) I suggested it
in 2001 when ZE2 was being designed. Somehow my idea was bastardized
into only classes and arrays. Guess it was the mad OOP craze of the time.
Anyhow, I would like to use it. And,
Because that is, IMO, a bad precedent to start for PHP internal
functions. Too many functions already produce warnings (fopen) and
return a status that can be checked. The solution right now is @ and
that has so much baggage with it that you can now disable that feature
completely making
+1
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On 5/21/10 10:38 AM, Ralph Schindler wrote:
Hey all,
Attached is a patch to remove the warning from parse_url() in situations
where parse_url() cannot actually parse the url. The bug report also
claims there should be a new feature for
On 5/3/10 10:48 PM, Moriyoshi Koizumi wrote:
Hey,
Just to let you know about a new RFC for adding autoboxing feature in PHP.
Look at http://wiki.php.net/rfc/autoboxing .
I liken this to pecl/runkit. For all those things you probably
shouldn't have been doing anyway. It will create a
I am not sure if this has been discussed or not. I will gladly make an
RFC if not. I think it would be very intuitive if htmlspecialchars used
the ini value default_charset as its default. And any function that
takes an optional character set.
A) Has this been discussed?
B) If not, do others
As I've mentioned in the past I think we are better off with shorter
release cycles and less features per cycle. Reduces risk and enables
us to push out value faster. For example, we have made (and are still
making) significant performance enhancements to the runtime. It'd be
a shame if that
safe_mode/register_globals/register_long_arrays/magic_quotes_*/allow_call_time_pass_reference
- Something we have long time been wanted to remove from PHP, I don't
see a big reason to keep those in the next version, even if its going
to be a 5.4, since we already removed things like
I really doubt named parameters would have much of an impact on
anything, but I'd be willing to consider it if a clean implementation
was to show up.
I think they'd allow to manage complex parameter sets more efficiently
than with those $options arrays. But that'd probably require changing
the
Now imagine a whole web server written in PHP (ie. nanoserv), say, using
libevent as the network backend, running the above described real-time web
implementation. Alternatively, you could perhaps even wire it into worker/event
model of apache/other servers instead of rolling your own. It sounds
Neat. I would not count cvs2svn though. Or any other known bots in there
if there are any.
Would be neat to see the list posted on pastebin though.
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On 3/30/10 3:36 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
Hi.
Just over 9 hours ago (Monday, March 29th 2010 at
Update: http://phpbenelux.eu/array_seek-return.patch.txt
I've kept the fseek()-style return values (0 when fine, -1 when seek fails)
Any reason why you picked that over the (IMO more logical) true/false
approach?
No, just to keep it similar to fseek(). Either way works for me.
I would
Right now, it returns the value of a given position.
How it's different from:
array_slice() returns the sequence of elements from the array array as
specified by the offset and length parameters?
array_slice returns an array of elements. This function would return the
value at the given
Le Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:23:21 +0200, user a écrit :
I published a (work in progress) RFC today about replacing certain
errors with exceptions. I know that there already was something
similiar on the php6dev blog, but this is not completly the same,
so awating your comments:
On 7/24/09 6:43 AM, Ben Scholzen 'DASPRiD' wrote:
To you both, this is especially, for library code like Zend Framework.
This tends to invalidate your entire argument IMO. Changing the core
language because something is hard in an external framework that only a
small percentage of actual
On 7/7/09 1:27 PM, Jani Taskinen wrote:
John Mertic kirjoitti:
Hi All,
Bringing this one back once more; let me know what everyone thinks
about it. If it's safe to commit than if someone could ( or give me
the karma to do so ) that would be great. If not, let me know what
should be done about
On 6/5/09 2:17 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
So it feels like decoupling ?= from short_open_tag is on the table.
Rasmus or Stas, could you please propose exactly how this might happen?
My proposal would be very simple:
1. short_open_tag setting removed in 6, ? is no longer PHP code tag
of performance impact are we looking at here?
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the extract() and import_request_variables() functions? Will
it still do the replacement? I foresee a lot of stop gap solutions
using those functions to get around register_globals. Not saying it is
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that run and do the work. They can
end after a certain time or memory usage. Again, you have to make sure
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descriptors, connections, etc.
Hmm, maybe I will write a blog post about this.
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in a good C function will beat out user
space work on arrays.
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on and off list to try to
find a solution that will satisfy the largest number of developers.
Thank you Greg. I wish that long ago when I had karma I had kept
working on the internals and kept my C skills sharp. They have atrophied
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OOP arrogance.
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mike wrote:
Personally I love the $. It makes it so much easier to identify
variables. It's a single character. Can't see the need honestly to
even bring this up.
+1,000,000. Horrible idea. *facepalm*
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Antony Dovgal wrote:
Keeping the experimental status for so many years is a nonsense.
Apparently it's not experimental anymore.
It has been working for me for years. I would say it is not experimental.
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, if json is not on by default, for example, we can't use it.
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. It was the slowest thing in the
app. So, we convered it to an array lookup system instead and got lots
of performance. We also made a Phorum extension to handle the URL
creation for those that need that little extra bump.
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Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
internals
How bad would it be to say that namespacing can only apply to classes and
not normal functions?
Lame, very lame. It would make them unusable for many distributed
projects that are not 100% OOP. Wordpress comes to mind. My own Phorum
as well.
It was my understanding that one of the
to say. I could care less
if any of PHP works on Windows. I am sure Richard feels the opposite. =)
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Pierre Joye wrote:
- smnp
nice ext, any ISP out there willing to help? I can help for the windows
support
Hmm, we use this. Is it broken for 5.3 or something? What do we need
to do to keep this alive?
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made it in. I find it useless and pointless. You can do all that
with a few functions, IMO. But it was added to make all the Java
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version to the latest one, right?
That makes it even more useless.
Right, so the sooner the better. =)
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PHP.net for [] won't return
anything useful either.
Can you google for this:
$var = 1;
$var = foo;
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Lars Strojny wrote:
a) write a proposal, b) write a patch for the Zend Engine, c) ask again.
+1 on what Lars said. Not so much on the syntax. That just looks like
a parse error to me.
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that we'd have two ways. I'd prefer to support [] but I don't
think it's a huge deal if we don't do it. It would make PHP a bit nicer :)
Andi
I almost typed it the other day not thinking. Been doing a lot of YUI
and {} and [] are growing on me.
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() inside that function. It does not currently
check PS(send_cookie). It simply just fires off the Set-Cookie header.
Thoughts?
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as if it was a string.
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I just did a grep on zend framework for is_int
and there were tons of results.
No offense to Zend, I love thos guys, but I don't think using Zend
Framework as the gold standard for how people want to code in PHP is the
right thing to do.
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() ) {
So, I guess I am +1
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was toggling a setting via a link or form that is to
be saved to a cookie.
Hmm, I think I feel a blog post coming on.
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this for application developers.
-1000
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cause this to be hit at 5 seconds?
Other thoughts?
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will pass as a string, but arrays and objects will not.
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is here.
It is not going anywhere. Let's finish the job.
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As for changing the code, a patch that does not break anything would be
the way to approach the list. It was probably done the way it is done
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would want it most. Only in my cli apps do I run into
having to trick the garbage collection into working in my favor. I
usually end having my loop just call a function on each pass. That
seems to help with memory use in PHP currently.
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in that my company's code would not conflict
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So, you need to relabel this, func_get_args() should allow arguments to
be passed by reference. This has nothing to do with call time pass by
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several really bad things that can happen. It can't be OOP cause
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for some feedback.
many thanks
Andrew
I have not done the benchmark recently, but here is what I found last
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'import' keyword
with 'use' keyword, which is already reserved.
If 'use' is already reserved, it makes the most sense IMO.
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enabling patch for OpenSSL and PHP 5
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9) Add array_replace[_recursive] functions (patch is already available)
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for you in this case.
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I was just wondering if it was intentional to ignore setlocale() in the
new DateTime object and its friends? That is a real let down if it was
intentional. Maybe its just a future feature?
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It's good
to as the install base is too large, but that would be
the only thing that would warrant a new release. I already sort of
mentioned this on april 1st, but I think we should come with a slightly
more official statement. Your votes please (only -1 and +1 are
allowed)!
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= get_settings();
function phorum_build_url(){
return $url;
}
?
list.php:
?php
namespace Phorum;
$url - phorum_build_url();
?
Or, would list.php have to import the Phorum namespace?
Also, I don't see any mention of variables in namespaces. Will there be
no effect on variables?
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for a
philosophical reason? Was it just over looked? Like it or not, PHP is
gonna have to work well on Apache 2 at some point. I don't like it, but
its reality. AFAIK, this is the only apache function that does not work
in Apache 2.
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. That is why our cli and apache 2 returned
wrong data. So, it this a bug in ZTS? Or do we have to live with this?
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that users don't have
to deal with these issues.
I had been joking with the Phorum team that we would rewrite Phorum 6 to
work only with PHP6. I am starting to worry that my jokes will become
reality.
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It's
out those access() calls, and did they fail, or did the
unlink() fail perhaps?
-Rasmus
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