On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, 6:18 PM Rowan Tommins wrote:
> On 31 December 2023 16:31:31 GMT, Pierre Joye
> wrote:
>
> >php handles this in threadsafe mode
>
> Depending on your exact definition of "php", this is either irrelevant or
> just plain wrong.
>
hello,
On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 6:59 PM Rowan Tommins wrote:
Then one of us is missing something very fundamental. As I understand it,
> Swoole's model is similar to that popularised by node.js: a single thread
> processes multiple incoming requests concurrently, using asynchronous I/O.
The
Hello,
On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 1:56 AM Jordan LeDoux wrote:
>
> So you want to introduce a SAPI that doesn't work with any of the existing
> HTTP solutions people use that only supports HTTP requests? Or am I
> misunderstanding something?
>
> This sounds a bit like you want to merge in a tool
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 11:21 PM Larry Garfield
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I understand. And I feel the same. But if there is no registry (a
> > goal), then there is no way to find out which of your extension version
> > support a specific PHP
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 3:44 PM Max Semenik wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 10:20 PM Niels Dossche
> wrote:
>
> > Hi internals
> >
> > I'd like to start a pre-RFC discussion about filesystem path APIs in PHP.
> > The reason I bring this up is because of this recent feature request:
> >
Hello Tim,
On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 9:05 AM Tim Starling wrote:
> Have you considered keeping the support matrix in the registry
> database, instead of in pecl.json? Then it can be updated with new
> build/test information after release.
We do it for windows, used by pickle, you can see one part
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023, 10:13 PM Pierre Joye wrote:
>
>
> You may mention https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle
>
> which supports pecl.php.net pear format, composer like support, and
> conversion to composer format.
>
> I did a website as well as a test bed and we had
Hi Derick,
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023, 8:45 PM Derick Rethans wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> Within the PHP Foundation, we have been talking for a while as what to
> do with PECL, and its website.
>
> The code is old, and hard to maintain. And the database is full of
> mojibake. It is also an outdated method
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 3:57 PM tag Knife wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > A quick question: is it possible to enable AVX2/AVX3 in PHP JIT generated
> > code, and hence can get some performance improvement?
> > Just check the community first: if anyone has already tried that or got
> > some
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 2:01 AM Jordan LeDoux wrote:
>
>
>
> I believe MPFR is what is used by ext-decimal. The only thing that makes
> ext-decimal a somewhat difficult replacement for BCMath is that one of them
> uses precision and the other uses scale. (Total accurate digits versus
> total
Hi Jordan
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 1:24 AM Jordan LeDoux wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 5:27 AM Saki Takamachi wrote:
>
>> Hi, Pierre
>>
>> In fact, I predict that many use cases will be covered by GMP.
>>
>> Still, I think that there may be cases where calculation functions like
>>
Hi
On Wed, Oct 4, 2023, 6:39 PM Saki Takamachi wrote:
> Hi, Marc, Pierre
>
> Thank you for all the information.
>
> After all, I feel that BCMath and GMP have different roles.
>
> Arbitrary precision mathematics and very high precision mathematics are
> similar but distinctly different.
>
I
On Tue, Oct 3, 2023, 4:13 PM Saki Takamachi wrote:
> yes, they do, as do almost all floating points implementation.
>
> Memory limited float values and their respective operations are still
> useful in many areas, but financial values and the likes. Scaled integers
> are the way for accuracy.
>
On Tue, Oct 3, 2023, 12:25 PM Saki Takamachi wrote:
>
> I thought GMP was a function for integers, so I wasn't expecting that tbh.
>
> However, even if GMP supported floating point numbers, wouldn't it end up
> having the inherent error problem of floating point numbers?
>
yes, they do, as do
Hello,
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 3:49 PM Derick Rethans wrote:
> .
>
> Typical areas would be where user input can be (automatically read)
> remotely, such as
> our RFC 1867 HTTP header parser. But we are sure there are other
> important areas as well, and we would like your input.
>
> So, if you
Hello :)
Posting again, I just realized I used "reply" not "reply all"
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:29 PM Dmitry Stogov wrote:
>
> Hi internals,
>
> I'm glad to present a new JIT engine that is going to be used in the next
> major PHP version. Now it's a real optimizing compiler with Intermediate
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 1:30 AM Deleu wrote:
>
>
> I resent the sentiment of "if your code or development process was exactly
> like mine you wouldn't be here complaining" and I believe nobody is asking
> PHP to freeze. Not everyone has the ability to fix every deprecation within
> a couple of
hello,
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 1:37 AM Stephan Soller
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm sorry if this isn't the correct mailing list for that discussion but I
> couldn't find a more appropriate one where people actually know how the
> wind is
> blowing.
>
> A few days ago I migrated a project from PHP 7.1
Hello,
I wonder if we could not use on demand resources for the builds (like
windows gh actions) and use the normal distribution mirrors setup?
Pierre
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 8:10 PM JEDI_BC / Bruno CHALOPIN
wrote:
> Hi
>
> On 11/07/2022 18:25, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> > On 11.07.2022 at
On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 7:46 PM joke2k wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022, 09:33 Claude Pache, wrote:
>
> > It is very common for fluent class methods to have a verbose `return
> > $this;` ending in their body.
> > But If you have declared `self` as return type into a
On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:31 AM Kris Craig wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 4:51 AM Marco Pivetta wrote:
>
>
> But that doesn't mean we should be using the PHP website to start taking
> sides in military conflicts.
>
There is no side to take but the population in Ukraine, friends, family,
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 1:02 PM Marco Pivetta wrote:
>
> 1. You need to be part of https://github.com/orgs/php/people
> 2. Your group must have issue triage rights
Thanks Marco, I know what can be done in github, I do not know who I
have to ping here to get that done as I cannot add myself to
Hi,
What has to be done that the github issues can be handled by the same
developers than in bugs.php.net?
It is a bit weird that I cannot change status or anything else but add
comments :)
Best,
--
Pierre
@pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org
--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development
good morning,
On Sat, Feb 12, 2022, 3:47 AM Rowan Tommins wrote:
> On 11/02/2022 18:42, Michał wrote:
> > Considering the given example, the description from the documentation
> > of strlen function: "Returns the length of the given string".
>
>
> Which is exactly what it does. Using Unicode
Hi Tim,
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 4:40 PM Tim Düsterhus, WoltLab GmbH
wrote:
>
> Hi Pierre
>
> On 1/11/22 4:48 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> > Also sensitive data goes way beyond arguments, GDPR brings a lot of
> > issues here too. Userland packages like monolog provide filters
Good morning Tim,
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:06 PM Tim Düsterhus, WoltLab GmbH
wrote:
I am not sure it makes sense to make the code so verbose to prevent
users from showing sensitive data as it never stops (next
print_r/var_dump and userland version of them?).
Also sensitive data goes way
Hi Tyson,
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:19 AM tyson andre wrote:
>
> While there is considerable division in whether or not members of internals
> want to adopt namespaces,
> I hope that the final outcome of the poll will be accepted by members of
> internals
> as what the representative of the
Hi Nikita,
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 12:38 AM Nikita Popov wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 1:14 AM Jordan LeDoux
> wrote:
>
> > Hello internals,
> >
> > I've opened voting on
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/user_defined_operator_overloads. The voting will
> > close on 2022-01-17.
> >
> > To review
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, 2:17 AM Pierre Joye wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, 1:35 AM Horváth V. wrote:
>
>> On 2022. 01. 03. 18:17, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>> > Oh, that would be an issue. We can't use Cygwin builds; MinGW builds
>> > might be okayish, t
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, 1:35 AM Horváth V. wrote:
> On 2022. 01. 03. 18:17, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> > Oh, that would be an issue. We can't use Cygwin builds; MinGW builds
> > might be okayish, though. ICU ships a VS solution file
> > (source/allinone/allinone.sln) which works fine. I
good evening Horváth,
On Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM Horváth V. wrote:
> Like I said in another e-mail, I wish to work on my host OS and this is
> something that would need to be done either way. It won't take me long
> either and PHP has been chugging along nicely so far without CMake.
>
>
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 8:02 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 29.12.2021 at 13:38, Horváth V. wrote:
>
> > Just a quick update on this in between the holidays.
> >
> > There are indeed quite a few of the libraries provided in the php-src's
> > Windows SDK that are missing from Conan Center
On Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 10:29 PM Remi Collet wrote:
> Le 24/12/2021 à 18:32, Kamil Tekiela a écrit :
> > Hi Internals,
> >
> > I would like to propose dropping support for libmysql from mysqli and ask
> > for opinions on how this could be best achieved.
>
> +1 to drop support for libmysql.
>
+1
On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 5:32 AM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>
> On 22.12.2021 at 22:44, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
>
> > After thinking about this a bit more I think we would still need some way
> > to provide the current functionality of the MINIT if that's moved on child
> > level. The problem with
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021, 5:24 AM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 20.12.2021 at 23:01, Horváth V. wrote:
>
> > On 2021. 12. 20. 17:19, Pierre Joye wrote:
> >
> >> We may switch to vcpkg distributions, [...], or the current autoconf
> >> php js port works too.
>
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021, 5:02 AM Horváth V. wrote:
> On 2021. 12. 20. 17:19, Pierre Joye wrote:
> > We may switch to vcpkg distributions, [...], or the current autoconf
> > php js port works too.
>
> Could you elaborate on what you mean by these?
>
> The reason why I p
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021, 6:37 AM Andreas Hennings wrote:
>
> In a class Matrix, you might want to implement three variations of the
> * operator:
> - Matrix * Matrix = Matrix.
> - Matrix * float = Matrix.
> - Matrix * Vector = Vector.
> Same for other classes and operators:
> - Money / float =
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:23 PM Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> Den fre. 17. dec. 2021 kl. 01.09 skrev Horváth V. <
> friendlyan...@hotmail.com>:
> > Yes, gradually phasing the current build system out is the most
> > pragmatic choice, although it will incur some extra maintenance cost for
>
Good evening,
On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 6:40 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 01.12.2021 at 00:52, Ben Morss via internals wrote:
>
> l
>
> Thanks for your and your colleague's work! It's highly appreciated.
>
> Anyhow, a respective PR[1] has been submitted now, and I'm in favor of
> bundling
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 10:20 PM Sara Golemon wrote:
I'm not hard against this idea. The interpretation of null in these
> contexts as being equivalent to empty string isn't unreasonable. I guess
> the only objection I could have would be an academic one and I can't really
> defend that. So
Hi Christoph,
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, 5:48 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> since Microsoft won't support PHP 8 and beyond, it appears to be
> reasonable to fork the microsoft/php-sdk-binary-tools[1] to the PHP org
> account on Github. The PHP-SDK is required to build PHP on
Hi Nikita,
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 3:47 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> Travis is working again.
In the meantime, I asked AWS if it is ok to share GD's graviton box
with php, all good.
If we don't have one, happy to add you there. GH Actions already in
place, only need to set up two accounts (I
Hi Nikita,
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 6:55 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:42 PM Chandranana Naik <
> chandranana.n...@ibm.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > Recently Travis builds have stopped running for PHP.
> > We only see Cirrus and appveyor CI builds, however
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Lynn wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:52 AM Pierre Joye wrote:
>>
>>
>> My vote will change to yes as soon as the change is an opt-in instead of an
>> opt-out for the 8.x lifetime.
>>
>
> What is the
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 4:40 AM Matthew Brown
wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 08:08, Nikita Popov wrote:
>
> > Hi internals,
> >
> > I've opened the vote on
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate_dynamic_properties. Voting will close
> > 2021-11-26.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nikita
> >
>
>
> I
On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 11:42 PM Rowan Tommins
wrote:
> On 14/11/2021 11:48, Pierre Joye wrote:
> > Also I do see it as a kind of strict mode addition and the depreciation
> as
> > well could be strict mode only.
>
>
> A quick reminder that PHP has no "stri
Hi Nikita,
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021, 11:34 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
FWIW I think we should always deprecate things as soon as possible, to give
> people the maximum amount of awareness and time to address the issue before
> the actual removal occurs.
I voted no however I agree on this part, with a
Hi Joe,
On Sun, May 9, 2021, 1:49 PM Joe Watkins wrote:
> Morning internals,
>
>
> Having moved our workflow to github, now seems to be the time to seriously
> consider retiring bugsnet for general use, and using the tools that are
> waiting for us - Github Issues.
>
yes! yes! yes!
and we
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 7:42 PM Jordi Boggiano wrote:
>
> > I'm surprised that is_resource() returns false for resource objects,
> > does anyone knows why it wouldn't return true in such case ?
> >
> > This is a very weird behavior, I'd expect it to return true, moreover
> > this is the most
Hi Tim,
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 1:32 PM Tim Starling wrote:
>
> Please consider my RFC for locale-independent case conversion.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/strtolower-ascii
very good one, thanks :)
> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/7506
> The RFC and associated PR ended up going some way
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 11:56 PM Mike Schinkel wrote:
> > On Sep 21, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:21 AM Mike Schinkel
> wrote:
> >
> >> Honestly, at first I confused `Deque` with `Dequeue` and was wondering
>
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:21 AM Mike Schinkel wrote:
> Honestly, at first I confused `Deque` with `Dequeue` and was wondering why we
> would name a class with a verb? It wasn't until Rowan's comment that I
> realized `Deque` is an abbreviation.
>
> Which begs the question: how many other PHP
Hi Tyson,
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 10:46 PM tyson andre
wrote:
> Hi Peter Bowyer,
>
>
> Many of php's names are based on the naming choices in libraries made in
> C/C++.
> So using https://cplusplus.com/reference/vector/vector/ for my RFC
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/vector
> seems like the most
Hi Tyson,
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 10:21 AM tyson andre
wrote:
>
> This proposal already has a fixed-sized type - that type is `mixed` (or
> `zval` internally), like ArrayObject, WeakMap, etc. already have in their
> values.
> (Similar to how basic Java collections (e.g. ArrayList) are all
>
Good morning,
Not sure you care or read my reply but I had to jump in one more time here :)
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 8:49 AM tyson andre wrote:
> setSize is useful in allocating exactly the variable amount of memory needed
> while using less memory than a PHP array.
> `setSize($newSize, 0)`
Hi Tyson,
Back on my laptop so I will answer my question myself as I read the
source code. Please, really, that should be part of the RFC content.
Half of the questions here are about APIs, goals, etc. RFC should be
specifications as much as possible.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 12:43 PM Pierre Joye
Hi Tim,
hope you are well :)
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 5:07 PM Tim Starling wrote:
>
> We could add a global mode, although that would prevent constant
> propagation, if that's what you mean by adding them to the optimizer.
> Or we could add variant functions like locale_strtolower() and
>
Good afternoon Christian,
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 3:07 PM Christian Schneider
wrote:
>
> Am 17.09.2021 um 04:09 schrieb tyson andre :
> > I've created a new RFC https://wiki.php.net/rfc/vector proposing to add
> > `final class Vector` to PHP.
>
>
> First of all: I don't have a strong opinion on
Hello Tyson,
Vector support would be very good. JIT can do a lot with them if we
have a clean Vector implementation, or even without JIT.
What is your base inspiration for Vector? I do like the pretty
standard C++ Vector implementation:
https://www.cplusplus.com/reference/vector/vector/
Where
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 5:49 PM Kamil Tekiela wrote:
> It's WSL2
> uname -r
> 5.4.72-microsoft-standard-WSL2
>
no need to test on wsl2, that's a dockerized linux.
best,
Pierre
>
Hi Go,
Awesome, excellent work and will make the whole thing easier :)
+1 already!
best,
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:29 AM Go Kudo wrote:
>
> Hi internals.
>
> As a result of the exchange in the following thread, it seems appropriate
> to separate the proposals.
>
> In line with this, we have
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021, 10:50 PM Christian Schneider
wrote:
> Am 06.09.2021 um 16:46 schrieb Pierre Joye :
> > Also as someone mentioned here afterwards, instead of removing it
> > straight away, I would go with the flag first, less risky :)
>
> Out of curiosity: Do you thi
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:05 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>
> On 06.09.2021 at 14:00, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2021, 6:14 PM Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 11:51 PM Hans Henrik Bergan
> >> wrote:
> >>
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021, 6:14 PM Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 11:51 PM Hans Henrik Bergan
> wrote:
>
>
> The stat cache does not necessarily solve this issues though, only in very
> limited cases where you work with the *same* file over and over again. The
> stat cache only ever
Hi Ben,
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021, 12:40 AM Ben Ramsey wrote:
> Go Kudo wrote on 9/4/21 23:00:
> > Indeed, it may be true that these suggestions should not be made all at
> > once. If necessary, I would like to propose to organize the RNG
> > implementation first.
> >
>
>
> The OOP API appears to be
Good morning,
On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 4:51 AM Hans Henrik Bergan wrote:
>
> PS i've seen *HORRIBLE* fs performance for php-running-on-windows,
> where the same filesystem operations on the same files took like 5 seconds
> on linux-running-on-vmware-on-laptop-running-windows-10, versus several
>
Hi Dmitry,
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 8:54 PM Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Please, let me know you decision according
> https://github.com/derickr/timelib/pull/99
>
> This workaround fix makes ~170 times improvement on "new DateTimeZone()"
> and as result visible improvement on some real-life apps (e.g
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 12:39 AM Dan Ackroyd wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 at 20:02, Pierre Joye wrote:
> >
> > good evening Dan,
> >
> > First of all, could you please not merge many different mails in one
> single reply? Thanks.
>
> No. This is a mailing
Hi Stan,
On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 5:10 AM Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> > The crux of the issue is what our end goal is:
> >
> > 1. Require users to explicitly annotate classes that use dynamic
> > properties, but otherwise keep dynamic properties as a fully supported part
> > of the core
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 1:09 AM Derick Rethans wrote:
> On 25 August 2021 18:34:18 BST, Nicolas Grekas <
> nicolas.grekas+...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Le mer. 25 août 2021 à 19:32, Marco Pivetta a écrit
> :
> ,
> >
> >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:30 PM Nicolas Grekas <
> >>
good evening Dan,
First of all, could you please not merge many different mails in one
single reply? Thanks.
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:43 AM Dan Ackroyd wrote:
> Pierre Joye wrote:
> > Many additions went through while being incomplete.
> >
> For almost all recent RFCS
>
Hi Jordan,
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 4:55 PM Jordan LeDoux wrote:
> 1. Are too large or complex for voters to make an informed decision about.
This is the real problem. Also you are correct on the cause
(complexity of a topic), I don't think we are not able to understand
complex RFCs.
> 2.
Hi Marco,
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 3:49 AM Deleu wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> We recently had the Nullable Intersection Types RFC process in an
> unconventional way starting a new RFC post feature freeze. If memory serves
> me right, another similar incident happened with the Attributes RFC
Hi Jordan,
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 10:02 AM Jordan LeDoux
wrote:
> Intersection types are very useful if you use composition over
> inheritance. That is, in PHP, they are most useful when you are using
> multiple interfaces and/or traits to represent different aspects of an
> object which might
Good morning,
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 5:52 AM Rowan Tommins wrote:
>
> On 27 July 2021 21:29:47 BST, "André Hänsel" wrote:
> >> In fact, when 7.1 was released, none of the signatures changed in my
> >code, they were just
> >> updated to a different syntax.
> >
> >That by the way is only because
Good morning,
On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 9:11 AM Jordan LeDoux wrote:
>
> > Are there documented SQL injection opportunities when using emulated
> prepares? I'm not aware of any.
>
> This was from my reading of the actual source, which of course may be
> flawed. It appeared that if emulated
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021, 6:31 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 12.07.2021 at 11:10, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
> > What is the status of the extension namespace RFC
> > (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaces_in_bundled_extensions)?
> >
> > In the near future, I plan t
Good afternoon internals,
What is the status of the extension namespace RFC
(https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaces_in_bundled_extensions)?
In the near future, I plan to work a bit on the ext/gd one. Adding
quite a few things I have in my queue for too long. Check
On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 9:14 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 01.07.2021 at 14:15, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
> > Hi Nikita,
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 4:32 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> >
> >> Hi internals,
> >>
> >> I have opened voting on https
Hi Nikita,
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 4:32 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> Hi internals,
>
> I have opened voting on https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_1. The
> vote closes on 2021-07-14.
>
> This RFC is a collection of various deprecation suggestions from different
> people. Each deprecation is
Hi Nikita,
Very good list, thank you.
The only one I am totally not sure about is image(filled)polygon
$numpoints. There are really tons of codes out there using it. There
is little to no gain to remove it but create a load of 1st level
support requests to many packages and applications. A
Hello Craig,
Very well written RFC, good job!
Others have said it already, but here are my thoughts. Many moons ago,
I was on this way as well and the filter extension came out. As it
fits for some projects, the actual gains were very far, to say the
least, from what I would have expected.
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 2:32 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
I'm not sure where you got the strange idea that "readonly" can refer to
> asymmetric visibility. The two syntactic approaches to asymmetric
> visibility that I'm aware of are "{ get; private set; }" in C# and "public
> private(set)" in Swift.
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> > On Jun 9, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Larry Garfield
wrote:
> >
> > Pierre and Mike:
> >
> > "Asymmetric visibility" as we keep referring to it would mean the
"implicit accessors only" version of this:
Good morning Larry,
Thank you. Very good summary, maybe worth adding to the RFC :)
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:52 PM Larry Garfield wrote:
> readonly would be a separate, independent feature/syntax.
Yes, my thought is about self explanatory syntax matching common usage
of the same
Hi Nikita,
On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:19 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
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> Hi internals,
>
> I'd like to open the discussion on readonly properties:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/readonly_properties_v2
Very good work, thank you :)
> This proposal is similar to the
>
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021, 3:02 PM Nikita Popov
Regarding dependencies, does this mean that extensions should also build
> DLLs for dependency libraries themselves? Are there any concerns about
> different extensions building different versions of the same library, or
> similar?
>
This the very reason
Hj Remi! :)
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021, 3:01 PM Remi Collet wrote:
> Le 04/06/2021 à 16:36, Ben Morss via internals a écrit :
>
> > ... I created a PR to propagate libgd's AVIF
> > support into PHP's bundled gd fork...
>
> Does it really make sense to keep maintaining this fork ?
>
> Having to
Hi Stas,
On Sun, May 9, 2021, 3:06 PM Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > If at some time in the future, github becomes a less than suitable
> > environment for us, we can just move, no problem. There's no sense in
> > which we are locked into anything.
>
> I don't see how we could "just
HI,
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:44 AM Derick Rethans wrote:
> Hi,
>
> as I mentioned, the first STV round ran into a tie, so there is a
> current run-off between the two candidates that tied,
> Gabriel and Ben, at: https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80#round_two
Is it Over? or edit error?
I can vote
hello,
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 6:54 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:18 AM Philipp Tanlak
> wrote:
>
> > Hello PHP Devs,
> >
> > I would like to propose the new basic function: str_contains.
> >
> > The goal of this proposal is to standardize on a function, to check
> weather
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:47 PM Joe Watkins wrote:
>
> I just want it to be noted that I requested that the decision is reconsidered
> also.
>
> I think, plain and simple, a mistake has been made.
I agree that a real discussion should happen. So whoever else feels
this way as well, feel free to
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 8:08 PM Peter Cowburn wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 12:27, Nicolas Grekas >
> wrote:
>
> > Le mar. 14 janv. 2020 à 13:20, PHP Group a écrit :
> >
> > > VCS Account Rejected: nicolasgrekas rejected by salathe /o\
> > >
> >
> > So, what's the process to get a vote now?
>
Good afternoon,
What a bold rejection, a bit surprising.
For one, there is a consensus on key community having a vote right since we
introduced rfc. We have been more strict but the consensus remains.
Secondly, yes, being an active contributor makes it amazingly easier to
actually have a vote,
Good morning Christoph,
I would even bump it to a much more recent version for 8.x or we will
have the same issue during 8.x lifetime (we may anyway but starting
with a 10+ years old version makes it much more likely).
Best,
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:50 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>
> Hi all,
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 5:58 PM Matthieu Napoli wrote:
>
> > Le 15 nov. 2019 à 16:03, Pierre Joye a écrit :
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 3:41 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:44 PM Matthieu Napoli
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
>
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 3:41 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:44 PM Matthieu Napoli
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Following a discussion with Nikita, I understood that [installing PEAR
> > with PHP is deprecated](
> >
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 10:00 AM Mike Schinkel wrote:
> .
>
> So given all those concerns are currently hypothetical
All are real problems, today. Spain's exams is the smallest one. Other
cases affect many people already with Github (at large).
best,
sorry, bad roads and writing from my mobile. I am not driving but still ;-)
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 7:33 PM Pierre Joye wrote:
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>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 7:25 PM Joe Watkins wrote:
>
>> Afternoon,
>>
>> It should be clear that if we were in receipt of the kind of n
; about the project.
>
> Cheers
> Joe
>
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 05:54, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 7:30 AM Benjamin Eberlei
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Outside pull requests don't live in php-src.git, because th
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