On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 17:08 -0700, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote:
Am 26.10.2014 um 16:09 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct
This is new information to me, I was lead to believe that phpstorm
were
happy to invest time in it.
I asked bob for the xml stuff to be reverted from 5.6 and master
yesterday and be developed elsewhere.
This now *must* happen, it doesn't belong in php-src at this
On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 14:56 +0700, Pierre Joye wrote:
This is new information to me, I was lead to believe that phpstorm
were
happy to invest time in it.
I asked bob for the xml stuff to be reverted from 5.6 and master
yesterday and be developed elsewhere.
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Le 29/10/2014 00:35, Stas Malyshev a écrit :
Hi!
phpdbg is under php.net ; every decision about phpdbg should then
be debatted with all the team, and new ideas, such as a protocol,
RFC'ed, whoever are the maintainers of the code. It's like that
On 29/10/2014, at 12:43 AM, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:27 PM, David Soria Parra d...@php.net wrote:
On 2014-10-26, Bob Weinand bobw...@hotmail.com wrote:
Am 26.10.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
On 26/10/14 15:41, Bob Weinand wrote:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
phpdbg is under php.net ; every decision about phpdbg should then be
debatted with all the team, and new ideas, such as a protocol, RFC'ed,
whoever are the maintainers of the code. It's like that for every
piece
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:10 AM, David Muir davidkm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29/10/2014, at 12:43 AM, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:27 PM, David Soria Parra d...@php.net wrote:
On 2014-10-26, Bob Weinand bobw...@hotmail.com wrote:
Am 26.10.2014 um 17:23 schrieb
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote:
Am 26.10.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
We will notify internals of our intentions to make such changes in
future, if we thought there was any chance of any feedback before
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote:
Am 26.10.2014 um 16:09 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote:
Log:
Made phpdbg compatible with
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:27 PM, David Soria Parra d...@php.net wrote:
On 2014-10-26, Bob Weinand bobw...@hotmail.com wrote:
Am 26.10.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
On 26/10/14 15:41, Bob Weinand wrote:
Ask them at PhpStorm. They were pleased to not have to use DBGp
On 28 Oct 2014, at 13:43, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote:
When PHP 5.6 has been released, few weeks/months ago, I explicitely
stated Ferenc (RMing 5.6 together with me), that *it is not a normal
thing to have an external domain for phpdbg*
This has never happened before, FWIR
Every
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:
On 28 Oct 2014, at 13:43, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote:
When PHP 5.6 has been released, few weeks/months ago, I explicitely
stated Ferenc (RMing 5.6 together with me), that *it is not a normal
thing to have an external
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net
wrote:
Am 25.10.2014 um 20:20 schrieb Stas Malyshev:
somewhat relaxed rules there, but even then introducing new debugging
protocol into PHP core seems to be something that warrants some
notification.
That would have
Am 28.10.2014 um 14:50 schrieb Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me:
On 28 Oct 2014, at 13:43, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote:
When PHP 5.6 has been released, few weeks/months ago, I explicitely
stated Ferenc (RMing 5.6 together with me), that *it is not a normal
thing to have an external domain
Hi!
phpdbg is under php.net ; every decision about phpdbg should then be
debatted with all the team, and new ideas, such as a protocol, RFC'ed,
whoever are the maintainers of the code. It's like that for every
piece of code, of every extension. This is PHP process. If you dont
want to
Do I
On 2014-10-26, Bob Weinand bobw...@hotmail.com wrote:
Am 26.10.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
On 26/10/14 15:41, Bob Weinand wrote:
Ask them at PhpStorm. They were pleased to not have to use DBGp for it.
They just initially requested it because they didn’t knew any
Am 25.10.2014 um 20:20 schrieb Stas Malyshev:
somewhat relaxed rules there, but even then introducing new debugging
protocol into PHP core seems to be something that warrants some
notification.
That would have been my next question. I think it does not only
warrant notification but adherence
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Joe Watkins pthre...@pthreads.org wrote:
I'd like to everyone to stay grounded in reality and say that we have
been checking code into php-src for months, very very few people have
expressed an interest in what we were actually doing, you aren't one of
them
Am 26.10.2014 um 12:58 schrieb Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Joe Watkins pthre...@pthreads.org wrote:
I'd like to everyone to stay grounded in reality and say that we have
been checking code into php-src for months, very very few people have
expressed
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote:
Commit:2bcac53bca8ea82d661f057b6d9ff3c7c84f05a7
Author:Bob Weinand bobw...@hotmail.com Fri, 24 Oct 2014
19:29:50 +0200
On 26 Oct 2014, at 15:09, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
A few weeks ago, I was at a conference where you told a room filled
with hundreds of developers that phpdbg was no good,
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Weinand Bob wrote:
Just a minor question, Derick. If you care about phpdbg, why are you
only dropping any comment about it by the time it got into php-src
repo?
Yes, my mistake. I should have voted -1, but as I thought there was a
conflict of interest, I stayed silent.
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Leigh wrote:
On 25 October 2014 12:00, Weinand Bob bobw...@hotmail.com wrote:
...
Thanks Bob.
So my question is: Obviously the phpdbg requirements do not map to
DBGp. However, can all of the requirements of DBGp be mapped to the
phpdbg XML?
Going forward does
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Stas Malyshev wrote:
That said, we are where we are, and I think it would be great if this
would somehow server as a starting point for developing a unified
protocol for debugging PHP.
It already exists: DBGp. It's implemented by dozens of editors and
plugins.
cheers,
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
We will notify internals of our intentions to make such changes in
future, if we thought there was any chance of any feedback before today,
we would already be doing so.
We will notify internals. Really? Sadly, this phpdbg stuff is part of
internals,
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Andrea Faulds wrote:
On 26 Oct 2014, at 15:09, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
A few weeks ago, I was at a conference where you told a room filled
with
Am 26.10.2014 um 16:17 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Weinand Bob wrote:
Just a minor question, Derick. If you care about phpdbg, why are you
only dropping any comment about it by the time it got into php-src
repo?
Yes, my mistake. I should have voted -1,
Am 26.10.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
We will notify internals of our intentions to make such changes in
future, if we thought there was any chance of any feedback before today,
we would already be doing so.
We will notify
Am 26.10.2014 um 16:26 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Andrea Faulds wrote:
On 26 Oct 2014, at 15:09, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
A few weeks ago,
Am 26.10.2014 um 16:09 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote:
Commit:2bcac53bca8ea82d661f057b6d9ff3c7c84f05a7
Author:Bob Weinand
On 26/10/14 15:41, Bob Weinand wrote:
Ask them at PhpStorm. They were pleased to not have to use DBGp for it.
They just initially requested it because they didn’t knew any better
protocol. That’s all.
PHPStorm like PHP-FIG have their own agendas which do not play well with
other groups of
Am 26.10.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
On 26/10/14 15:41, Bob Weinand wrote:
Ask them at PhpStorm. They were pleased to not have to use DBGp for it.
They just initially requested it because they didn’t knew any better
protocol. That’s all.
PHPStorm like PHP-FIG
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote:
Commit:2bcac53bca8ea82d661f057b6d9ff3c7c84f05a7
Author:Bob Weinand bobw...@hotmail.com Fri, 24 Oct 2014
19:29:50 +0200
Parents: 53560ca06b333b71883269091f7d74c0a25e087b
hi,
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Joe Watkins pthre...@pthreads.org wrote:
Although this patch does make it work with PHP 7, it also does do
something absolutely different: it reinvents a wheel by coming up with a
new XML protocol for debugging.
So far I've been silent on PHPDBG, but
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 16:19 +0700, Pierre Joye wrote:
hi,
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Joe Watkins pthre...@pthreads.org wrote:
Although this patch does make it work with PHP 7, it also does do
something absolutely different: it reinvents a wheel by coming up with a
new XML
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Joe Watkins pthre...@pthreads.org wrote:
Pierre,
I wasn't involved in the conversations during it's development very
much. You will have to wait for bob or someone from the phpstorm team to
fill in the blanks. Suffice to say that they found a reason
Just a minor question, Derick. If you care about phpdbg, why are you only
dropping any comment about it by the time it got into php-src repo? It’s known
that all the development currently (except for master, but that just was a
merge and then a pure rewrite on top of that merge, nothing related
On 25 October 2014 12:00, Weinand Bob bobw...@hotmail.com wrote:
...
Thanks Bob.
So my question is: Obviously the phpdbg requirements do not map to
DBGp. However, can all of the requirements of DBGp be mapped to the
phpdbg XML?
Going forward does the XML protocol cover everything XDebug needs?
Am 25.10.2014 um 13:25 schrieb Leigh lei...@gmail.com:
On 25 October 2014 12:00, Weinand Bob bobw...@hotmail.com wrote:
...
Thanks Bob.
So my question is: Obviously the phpdbg requirements do not map to
DBGp. However, can all of the requirements of DBGp be mapped to the
phpdbg XML?
Am 25.10.2014 um 13:00 schrieb Weinand Bob:
It’s known that all the development currently is going on in
krakjoe/phpdbg github repo.
Why is that, exactly? I find it weird that something that is shipped
with official releases of PHP is not developed alongside the rest of
PHP.
--
PHP
Am 25.10.2014 um 17:37 schrieb Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net:
Am 25.10.2014 um 13:00 schrieb Weinand Bob:
It’s known that all the development currently is going on in
krakjoe/phpdbg github repo.
Why is that, exactly? I find it weird that something that is shipped
with official
Hi!
Just a minor question, Derick. If you care about phpdbg, why are you
only dropping any comment about it by the time it got into php-src
repo? It’s known that all the development currently (except for
master, but that just was a merge and then a pure rewrite on top of
that merge, nothing
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 11:20 -0700, Stas Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
Just a minor question, Derick. If you care about phpdbg, why are you
only dropping any comment about it by the time it got into php-src
repo? It’s known that all the development currently (except for
master, but that just was a
disclaimer: I'm not overly interested in phpdbg, maybe I should
be, but for the moment I'm not.
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 21:24 +0100, Joe Watkins wrote:
I'd like to everyone to stay grounded in reality and say that we have
been checking code into php-src for months, very
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