RE: Website localization, information about language packs.
> > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:43:48 +0200 > > From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de > > To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Website localization, information about language packs. > > > > Am 04/18/2016 06:54 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: > > > See <http://www.openoffice.org/lt/download/> for an example of it being > > > translated. > > > > > > The file is called "full_vs_lp.html" (you can see it in the address of > > > the link to the pop-up page). > > > > thanks Aivaras, that's the proof that this is localizable. And for Jon, > > here's the part where it works: > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js : > > > > ... > > l10n.dl_help_link = > > "http://www.openoffice.org/download/full_vs_lp.html;; > > ... > > > > So, create an own ".../eu/download/full_vs_lp.html" file and exchange > > the link in "msg_prop_l10n_eu.js" with your new one. > > > > That's all. :-) > > > > Marcus > Thank you, Marcus. I'll try to do it. JonPeli > Thank you to you too, Aivaras. I did not realize that you had sent any information. With the help of both of you I have managed to present translated the information Kind regards. JonPeli > > > > 2016-04-18 14:37, Jon Peli Oleaga rašė: > > >> > > >> I have checked only some of the available languages, > > >> but in all the languages with similar pages to the English ones that > > >> I have checked I have seen that the information presented when > > >> following the "What is a language pack?" in the downloading > > >> initial page is always written in English. > > >> > > >> I think that, to know if they should download a "full > > >> installation" or a "language pack", this information is more > > >> important for people not acquainted with OpenOffice than the > > >> information of some other pages. > > >> > > >> Is it possible to present this information in the > > >> native language? In that case, what files must be changed? > > >> > > >> Kind regards. > > >> > > >> Jon Peli > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > >
RE: Website localization, information about language packs.
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:43:48 +0200 > From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de > To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Website localization, information about language packs. > > Am 04/18/2016 06:54 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: > > See <http://www.openoffice.org/lt/download/> for an example of it being > > translated. > > > > The file is called "full_vs_lp.html" (you can see it in the address of > > the link to the pop-up page). > > thanks Aivaras, that's the proof that this is localizable. And for Jon, > here's the part where it works: > > http://www.openoffice.org/lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js : > > ... > l10n.dl_help_link = > "http://www.openoffice.org/download/full_vs_lp.html;; > ... > > So, create an own ".../eu/download/full_vs_lp.html" file and exchange > the link in "msg_prop_l10n_eu.js" with your new one. > > That's all. :-) > > Marcus > Thank you, Marcus. I'll try to do it. JonPeli > > > > 2016-04-18 14:37, Jon Peli Oleaga rašė: > >> > >> I have checked only some of the available languages, > >> but in all the languages with similar pages to the English ones that > >> I have checked I have seen that the information presented when > >> following the "What is a language pack?" in the downloading > >> initial page is always written in English. > >> > >> I think that, to know if they should download a "full > >> installation" or a "language pack", this information is more > >> important for people not acquainted with OpenOffice than the > >> information of some other pages. > >> > >> Is it possible to present this information in the > >> native language? In that case, what files must be changed? > >> > >> Kind regards. > >> > >> Jon Peli > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
Website localization, information about language packs.
I have checked only some of the available languages, but in all the languages with similar pages to the English ones that I have checked I have seen that the information presented when following the “What is a language pack?” in the downloading initial page is always written in English. I think that, to know if they should download a “full installation” or a “language pack”, this information is more important for people not acquainted with OpenOffice than the information of some other pages. Is it possible to present this information in the native language? In that case, what files must be changed? Kind regards. Jon Peli
RE: Website localization (Basque)
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 10:25:29 +0200 > From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de > To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: FW: Website localization (Basque) > > Am 04/15/2016 09:52 PM, schrieb Jon Peli Oleaga: > > Hi Marcus, > > > >>> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 19:31:32 +0200 > >>> From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de > >>> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: Website localization (Basque) > >>> > >>> Am 04/15/2016 11:50 AM, schrieb Jon Peli Oleaga: > >>>> I am trying to translate some of the main pages of the AOO site, but > >>>> I do not know: > >>>> > >>>> What file must be changed in order to change the information that > >>>> appears on the heading of most of the pages (“Search” button, > >>>> “The Free and Open Productivity Suite” and “Apache OpenOffice > >>>> 4.1.2 released” in English) > >>> > >>> this has to be modified in the brand file [1] and topnav file [2] in the > >>> respective langauge folder. > >>> > >>> But I can see the text already in Basque. Maybe a cache problem, can you > >>> see it after a complete reload of the webpage (e.g., [Shift][F5] in > >>> Firefox)? > >>> > >> Thanks, Marcus. > >> > >> i want to change the release number and replace "search" by "bilatu". I'li > >> try to do it. > >> > >>>> What I should do to, when choosing Basque in the upper right field, > >>>> in addition of presenting the pages in Basque, get showed the chosen > >>>> language in this field, and not English. (If this is not changed you > >>>> may not return to see the English pages if you reselect English in > >>>> this field) > >>> > >>> IMHO the properties for the selected language are missing: > >>> > >>> selectedlang: eu > >>> language: Euskara > >>> > >>> Please compare with the English file [3]. > >>> > >>>> Could any one tell me what to do? > >>> > >>> [1] .../ooo-site/trunk/content/eu/brand.mdtext > >>> [2] .../ooo-site/trunk/content/eu/topnav.mdtext > >>> [3] .../ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext [4] > >>> .../ooo-site/trunk/content/es/brand.mdtext [5] > >>> .../ooo-site/trunk/content/eu/brand.mdtext > > > > The [1] file seems to be an empty file, but the [3] file too, it seems to > > be an empty file. > > Neither the file [2] nor the [ .../ooo-site/trunk/content/topnav.mdtext] > > file contains the information that I want to change. > > I've updated the files in my local work sdiretory with the latest change > in SVN. I can see the usual properties - even when it's a bit old. > > So, I think you just need to update your local files, too. Even with > "svn update" when you are working via SVN as command line tool. > > Or with an update in the CMS. For this change to the directory > ".../trunk/content/eu/" and click on the [Update this directory] link > and then on the [Update This Resource] button. > > Does it solves the problem? > > Marcus Thank you very much, Marcus. I have solved the problem following your instructions. I had updated (in de CMS) the whole "content" directory (Perhaps incorrectly) before examining the file contents; but, still, I did not see anything when trying to edit the "brand.mdtext" files. The problem was that I only saw the content section of the file on my browser and I was not checking the page header section of it. JonPeli > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
RE: Website localization (Basque)
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 19:31:32 +0200 > From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de > To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Website localization (Basque) > > Am 04/15/2016 11:50 AM, schrieb Jon Peli Oleaga: > > I am trying to translate some of the main pages of the AOO site, but > > I do not know: > > > > What file must be changed in order to change the information that > > appears on the heading of most of the pages (“Search” button, > > “The Free and Open Productivity Suite” and “Apache OpenOffice > > 4.1.2 released” in English) > > this has to be modified in the brand file [1] and topnav file [2] in the > respective langauge folder. > > But I can see the text already in Basque. Maybe a cache problem, can you > see it after a complete reload of the webpage (e.g., [Shift][F5] in > Firefox)? > Thanks, Marcus. i want to change the release number and replace "search" by "bilatu". I'li try to do it. > > What I should do to, when choosing Basque in the upper right field, > > in addition of presenting the pages in Basque, get showed the chosen > > language in this field, and not English. (If this is not changed you > > may not return to see the English pages if you reselect English in > > this field) > > IMHO the properties for the selected language are missing: > > selectedlang: eu > language: Euskara > > Please compare with the English file [3]. > > > Could any one tell me what to do? > > [1] .../ooo-site/trunk/content/eu/brand.mdtext > [2] .../ooo-site/trunk/content/eu/topnav.mdtext > [3] .../ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext > > HTH > > Marcus thank you very much, I'll try to follow the instructions. JonPeli > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
Website localization (Basque)
I am trying to translate some of the main pages of the AOO site, but I do not know: What file must be changed in order to change the information that appears on the heading of most of the pages (“Search” button, “The Free and Open Productivity Suite” and “Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 released” in English) What I should do to, when choosing Basque in the upper right field, in addition of presenting the pages in Basque, get showed the chosen language in this field, and not English. (If this is not changed you may not return to see the English pages if you reselect English in this field) Could any one tell me what to do? Thanks.
RE: Basque pages in the OpenOffice website
Hi Andrea: I am sending you a copy of a message that I sent you on February. I think that I was not able to express correctly what I wanted. Can you still move the files on the /eu-test/ directory to the /eu/ directory? If you can, please move them. I'll try to translate the files still in English later. But I do not remember how to get the files that must be translated, because from the addresses on your message I can get the HTML files but I think that you do not want those files to be translated directly; the files to be translated are others. I apologize for my bad English. Jon Peli > From: oleaga...@hotmail.com > To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: Basque pages in the OpenOffice website > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:53:36 + > > > > > Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:41:01 +0100 > > From: pesce...@apache.org > > To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Basque pages in the OpenOffice website > > > > On 07/02/2015 Jon Peli Oleaga wrote: > > > Some months ago I tried to > > > translate some of the pages in the OpenOffice website into Basque. > > > I had some problems to > > > translate them correctly, and perhaps some of the links on them are > > > not correct; but I think that, if someone corrects these problems > > > with the links, the files on the http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test > > > directory should be copied into the http://www.openoffice.org/eu > > > > I still see a mix of English and Basque content there. If it is OK for > > you we can surely move this to /eu instead of /eu-test but I'd like to > > get confirmation that these pages are still untranslated. > > > > Home page, main menu (left): > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/ -> eu > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/why/ -> en > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/download/ -> eu (working) > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/support/ -> eu > > http://www.openoffice.org/extensions/ -> en (this is a wrong link; > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/extensions/ is translated) > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/participate/ -> en > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/social/ -> eu > > > > Home page, top menu (horizontal): > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/product/ -> en > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/download/ -> eu, same as above > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/support/ -> eu, same as above > > https://blogs.apache.org/ooo/ -> OK, this is an English resource > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/extensions/ -> eu > > http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/participate/ -> en > > http://www.openoffice.org/projects/accepted.htm -> 404 (broken link, > > this must be removed) > > http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html -> en (but it should > > stay in English) > > > > So I see: > > - 2 links to fix, and I can do it > > - 3 pages (and their possible subpages) still in English, and I'd like > > to know whether you have already translated them or not; these are not > > blocking, so I can move eu-test/ to eu/ and then incorporate translation > > of the missing pages when ready; just give me the green light and I'll > > do it. (text sent on February)Thanks Andrea These three > > pages are still untranslated, but I think that it is better to move already > > the content of eu-test to eu. (removing the broken links) Could > > you send me the english versions of these three pages? As we can > > not work directly whith the .HTML files I do not know how to get the > > present version of the files to translate them. Best regards > > Jon Peli > > > > Regards, > >Andrea. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > >
RE: Accessibility strings
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:49:12 + From: palbuquerqu...@gmail.com To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Accessibility strings Hi, can someone tell me where can I see these strings https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40/accessibility/source/helper.po? I'm trying to see if the translations fit the space (button size, list box, wherever they apply). Thank you. Regards, Pedro. I think that in the top left of that page it will appear something like: This file contains 30 words and 100% is translated. Expand details (I see it in Basque) If you clic over Expand details and afterwards over the word number on the expanded window perhaps you will be able to see the strings that you want to see. I apologize for my bad English.
Former Pootle's aid for translations
In some previous Pootle versions when translating an untranslated text you could see the translations already done for different but similar texts. This feature was extremely helpful in order to assure the consistency of the translation in cases at which the bulk work of the translation had been done by people who no longer works on the project. Nowadays I am not able to use this feature, I do not know if it is because the feature is no longer available or simply because I am doing something wrong. If the answer is the second one, could you tell me what should I do to use that feature? And if the answer is the first one; could it be possible to recover the feature? PS I do not know why when I send a message to the mail list the message apparently is well formatted but when I receive it all the formatting is completely changed.
RE: Basque pages in the OpenOffice website
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:41:01 +0100 From: pesce...@apache.org To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Basque pages in the OpenOffice website On 07/02/2015 Jon Peli Oleaga wrote: Some months ago I tried to translate some of the pages in the OpenOffice website into Basque. I had some problems to translate them correctly, and perhaps some of the links on them are not correct; but I think that, if someone corrects these problems with the links, the files on the http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test directory should be copied into the http://www.openoffice.org/eu I still see a mix of English and Basque content there. If it is OK for you we can surely move this to /eu instead of /eu-test but I'd like to get confirmation that these pages are still untranslated. Home page, main menu (left): http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/ - eu http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/why/ - en http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/download/ - eu (working) http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/support/ - eu http://www.openoffice.org/extensions/ - en (this is a wrong link; http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/extensions/ is translated) http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/participate/ - en http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/social/ - eu Home page, top menu (horizontal): http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/product/ - en http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/download/ - eu, same as above http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/support/ - eu, same as above https://blogs.apache.org/ooo/ - OK, this is an English resource http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/extensions/ - eu http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test/participate/ - en http://www.openoffice.org/projects/accepted.htm - 404 (broken link, this must be removed) http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html - en (but it should stay in English) So I see: - 2 links to fix, and I can do it - 3 pages (and their possible subpages) still in English, and I'd like to know whether you have already translated them or not; these are not blocking, so I can move eu-test/ to eu/ and then incorporate translation of the missing pages when ready; just give me the green light and I'll do it. Thanks Andrea These three pages are still untranslated, but I think that it is better to move already the content of eu-test to eu. (removing the broken links) Could you send me the english versions of these three pages? As we can not work directly whith the .HTML files I do not know how to get the present version of the files to translate them. Best regardsJon Peli Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Basque pages in the OpenOffice website
Some months ago I tried to translate some of the pages in the OpenOffice website into Basque. I had some problems to translate them correctly, and perhaps some of the links on them are not correct; but I think that, if someone corrects these problems with the links, the files on the http://www.openoffice.org/eu-test directory should be copied into the http://www.openoffice.org/eu directory and the request for translation on this directory should be removed. I do not know if I must do something in order to get that.
RE: National web sites (Basque)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:57:00 +0200 From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org CC: robw...@apache.org; marcus.m...@wtnet.de Subject: Re: National web sites (Basque) Am 07/02/2014 04:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Jon Peli Oleagaoleaga...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you very much; to all of you who have shown me the way to change most of the “html” files using CMS. I will try to do small corrections on them that way. As for the download file, I do not understand very well some of the technical issues to take into account to solve the problem, but I am sure the way you chose is going to be a lot better than the one I would chose. Any way, I have some problems with the links (the “support” link on the header leads to a page written in Basque but the same link on right menu leads to a file written in English ) on the download “html” file automatically generated . I see this as well. I don't see where this link comes from. Marcus, could you take a look at: http://www.openoffice.org/xx/download/index.html The support link in top nav goes to the localized xx/support/index.html But the link on the right is hard-coded to the default /support/index.html I don't see this URL in the list of customized ones in the message properties Javascript. right, it's hard-coded inside the HTML file. The link text and title text can be customized but not the link itself. Please have a look into the source code of the download webpage [1]. Where is this URL defined? How do we customize it so it points to the same NL version as the topnav version does? I need to add the links as variables to the msg_prop_... file also and re-work the boxed_download.js file to show them. Then you just need to delete the nearly hard-coded part to show the nav bar and insert the function call to create it: createNavigationBar(); On the test page [2] it's nearly done. Only the customized links are missing. Maybe something for the weekend and then I can put it into production. BTW: When re-working the whole stuff I thought it wouldn't be necessary to customize also the URL. Maybe a wrong decision. ;-( [1] http://www.openoffice.org/eu/softwarea/index.html [2] http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html Marcus 2014-07-03 If you want to keep in the localized “sites” the directory structure and file names of the English “site” perhaps it could be possible in the generated html file instead of writing; + h3 + l10n_nav_headline_3_text + /h3 + ul + lia href='http://www.openoffice.org/support/index.html' + title=' + l10n_nav_support_title + ' + l10n_nav_support_text + /a/li + lia href='http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html' + title=' + l10n_nav_local_title + ' + l10n_nav_local_text + /a/li to write + h3 + l10n_nav_headline_3_text + /h3 + ul + lia href='http://www.openoffice.org/; + NL_LANG + /support/index.html' + title=' + l10n_nav_support_title + ' + l10n_nav_support_text + /a/li + lia href='http://openoffice.apache.org/; + NL_LANG + native-lang.html' + title=' + l10n_nav_local_title + ' + l10n_nav_local_text + /a/li and so on Jon 2014-07-03 Probably the reason for that is that presently the files translated into Basque only are located on the “eu-test” directory and all the files on the “eu” directory are files in English; and replicating the files on the “eu-test” directory on the “eu” directory could solve the problem. But I am not sure of that. Could we do that replication, even if the files on the “eu-test” directory are not completely actualized? Jon Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 22:19:05 +0200 From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org CC: robw...@apache.org; marcus.m...@wtnet.de Subject: Re: National web sites (Basque) Am 07/01/2014 06:34 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Jon Peli Oleagaoleaga...@hotmail.com wrote: I think that the present procedure to update the pages of the national web sites is using some auxiliary files (.mdtext, .js …) that are processed to give the final “.html” files to upload into the server. I am not sure of that, but I think too, that presently we can not correct directly those final files. Correct. You are talking about the new download page. The page that the user sees in their browser is created, at run time, by Javascript. So there are no final file that you can edit. You can only edit the intermediate files, e.g., the HTML template /download/index.html and the Javascript file with the strings, msg_prop_l10n_eu.js. This is indeed the intended way to centralize the handling of the download. It's important that the download is working without problems regardless of language, OS and version. In former times every language
National web sites (Basque)
I think that the present procedure to update the pages of the national web sites is using some auxiliary files (.mdtext, .js …) that are processed to give the final “.html” files to upload into the server. I am not sure of that, but I think too, that presently we can not correct directly those final files. But the files automatically processed in that way sometimes are incorrect for languages with word order in the sentences not equal to the one used in English. For instance, in Basque there is no way to translate the item “ is unavailable for “ because English sentences like “XXX is unavailable for YYY” should be translated to something like “XXX is unavailable YYY-for” This is just an example, but similar things occur frequently. So, if we consider XXX, YYY and ZZZ constant values that must appear in any language, as long as the .html file generating process is not able to consider 3+1 (constant number +1) language dependent strings to combine with them in the following way: lang.dep.str.1 XXX lang.dep.str.2 YYY lang.dep,str3 ZZZ lang.dep.str4 we can not assure that the automatically generated “.html” Is going to be correct for all languages. Actually, even with the (N+1) strings we can not assure the correctness, because the N constants do not necessarily appear in the same order in all the languages. I think that trying to implement an automatic procedure to get final “.html” files for any language nowadays is too complicated and that, because of that, it should be possible to make small changes directly on the final “.html” files. Not directly the translators, of course; but AOO should accept uploading directly the corrected final “.html” files sent by them. Is there, presently, a procedure to make small changes on the final “.html” files without having to change the auxiliary files and regenerate automatically those final “.html” files? What must we do simply to change a bad link in a final “.html” file?
RE: National web sites (Basque)
What must we do simply to change a bad link in a final “.html” file? Use CMS, edit the html file of your interest (for a native-lang project, usually located in .../trunk/content/native-lang/...), then submit, commit, stage, and publish. Thanks. What must I do to use CMS? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Minor error in the help files in the English version?
When trying to translate into basque some help content I have found the following strings: ki kibi 1024 Mi mebi 1048576 Gi gibi 1073741824 Ti tebi 1099511627776 Pi pebi 1125899906842620 Ei exbi 115292150460685 Zi zebi 118059162071741000 Yi yobi 12089258196146300 I think that, in order to read them more easily, it would be better to insert the thousand separator. But, if it exists, this is not the error. I think that from the fifth item on the values are not correct. Those values are the ones that we get when multiplying directly in CALC the previous value by 1.024, because we cannot get directly in CALC exact numbers with more than 15 digits. Using the exact values, the strings should be: ki kibi 1.024 Mi Mebi 1.048.576 Gi Gibi 1.073.741.824 Ti Tebi 1.099.511.627.776 Pi Pebi 1.125.899.906.842.624 Ei Exbi 1.152.921.504.606.846.976 Zi Zebi 1.180.591.620.717.411.303.424 Yi Yobi 1.208.925.819.614.629.174.706.176 Any way, perhaps those values are used in some functions and, not being possible to work with numbers of more than 15 digits, the values already on the help files are the ones that must appear. I have not got enough time to check how the CONVERT_ADD function works because still there is a lot of things that must be translated.
RE: Minor error in the help files in the English version?
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:35:05 -0400 From: meriodoc_brandyb...@yahoo.com To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Minor error in the help files in the English version? Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jon Peli Oleaga wrote: ki kibi 1024 Mi mebi 1048576 Gi gibi 1073741824 Ti tebi 1099511627776 Pi pebi 1125899906842620 Ei exbi 115292150460685 Zi zebi 118059162071741000 Yi yobi 12089258196146300 I think that, in order to read them more easily, it would be better to insert the thousand separator. But, if it exists, this is not the error. I think that from the fifth item on the values are not correct. Interesting. Apparently OpenOffice is smart enough to do the right thing, i.e., =CONVERT_ADD(1/(1024*1024);Eibyte;byte) gives 1099511627776 which is the right result (1 Terabyte). I tried on a 64-bit system, not sure about what happens in a 32-bit one so I won't open an issue right now. But indeed it has all to do with the difference in how numbers are managed internally and how they are displayed. Any way, perhaps those values are used in some functions and, not being possible to work with numbers of more than 15 digits, the values already on the help files are the ones that must appear. Leaving them as they are won't be tragic. But you can insert commas as thousands separators in your translation, this is just text. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org Andrea; I tried the same formula on a 32 bit windows xp system and recieved the identical result. Regards Keith But if you calculate the expressions CONVERT_ADD(1;Pibyte;byte) CONVERT_ADD(1;Eibyte;byte) CONVERT_ADD(1;Zibyte;byte) CONVERT_ADD(1;Yibyte;byte) You get the values 1.125.899.906.842.620 1.152.921.504.606.850.000 1.180.591.620.717.410.000.000 1.208.925.819.614.630.000.000.000 Which efectibly are the values that appear on the help but not the number of bytes of the Pibyte, Eibyte, Zibyte and Yibyte. 1.125.899.906.842.624 1.152.921.504.606.846.976 1.180.591.620.717.411.303.424 1.208.925.819.614.629.174.706.176 My doubt was if in the help in the definition of Pibyte, Eibyte, Zibyte and Yibyte it is better to put the values that, due to the rounding error, are calculated in CALC or the exact number of bytes of those units. I am not worried about the accuracy; it is more than enough; and it is similar in other.spreadsheets. But, even if they do not coincide with the results from CALC, in the help perhaps it would be more adecuate to give the correct definition of Pibyte, Eibyte, Zibyte and Yibyte. Best regards Jon Peli - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Basque translation, problems in help files
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:41:56 +0200 From: th.grosk...@quicknet.nl To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Basque translation, problems in help files Op 13-9-2013 12:36, Jon Peli Oleaga schreef: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:55:29 +0200 From: th.grosk...@quicknet.nl To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Basque translation, problems in help files Op 10-9-2013 13:50, Jürgen Schmidt schreef: Hi, I tried to update Basque translation because the UI is complete or better was nearly complete. But I detected several problems with mismatched tags in the help files. That means I can't integrate it for AOO 4.0.1 until these problems are fixed. I don't have time to do that (too many problems) But 4.1 is coming and at this time I hope the problems are solved and we can integrate it. If somebody is able to fix it until tomorrow evening we can integrate it for 4.0.1. But I need an issue. Juergen # Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 14880, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\sbasic\shared\02\1119.xhp/help/par_id3143267///: Property 'src': value different in Translation : \image id=\img_id3155339\ src=\res/commandimagelist/sc_exportdialog.png\ width=\0.1665in\ height=\0.1665in\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37024, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3125865/8//: Property 'hid': value different in Translation : \ahelp hid=\.\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37028, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145271/10//: Property 'hid': value different in Translation : \ahelp hid=\.\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37030, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145647/12//: Property 'hid': value different in Translation : \ahelp hid=\.\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37030, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145647/12//: Extra Tag in Translation: \link href=\text/shared/00/0005.xhp\ name=\OLAP\\ at Position 164 ource\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp 0 helppar_id3145647 12 0 eu \ahelp hid=\SC:RADIOBUTTON:RID_SCDLG_DAPITYPE:BTN_EXTERNAL\\\emph\Kanpoko iturburua\/emph\ren elkarrizketa-koadroa irekiko du; DatuPilotuaren taularentzako \link href=\text/shared/00/0005.xhp\ name=\OLAP\\OLAP\/link\ Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37030, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145647/12//: Extra Tag in Translation: \/link\ at Position 227 \ahelp hid=\SC:RADIOBUTTON:RID_SCDLG_DAPITYPE:BTN_EXTERNAL\\\emph\Kanpoko iturburua\/emph\ren elkarrizketa-koadroa irekiko du; DatuPilotuaren taularentzako \link href=\text/shared/00/0005.xhp\ name=\OLAP\\OLAP\/link\ datu-iturburua hautatu ahal izango duzu.\/ahelp\ 20130618 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 46470, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0020.xhp/help/par_id3159153/109//: Missing Tag in Translation: \link href=\text/shared/00/0200.xhp\ name=\Graphics Export Options\\ at Position 118 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 46470, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0020.xhp/help/par_id3159153/109//: Missing Tag in Translation: \/link\ at Position 219 109 0 eu \emph\Fitxategia - Esportatu\/emph\ bidetik jo daiteke $[officename] Draw eta $[officename]Impress aukera batzuetara. 20130618 17:22:18 Error: File format, Line 46858, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id3149957/24//: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46859, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id3149957/24//: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46859, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id3149957/24//: Translation Language entry double. Checking both. Error: File format, Line 46868, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id314995724///: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46869, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id314995724///: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46869, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id314995724///: Translation Language entry double. Checking both. Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 47907, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0450.xhp/help/par_id3150393///: Property 'src': value different in Translation : \image id=\img_id3145606\ src=\res/commandimagelist/sc_tablesort.png\ width=\0.222inch
RE: Basque translation, problems in help files
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:55:29 +0200 From: th.grosk...@quicknet.nl To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Basque translation, problems in help files Op 10-9-2013 13:50, Jürgen Schmidt schreef: Hi, I tried to update Basque translation because the UI is complete or better was nearly complete. But I detected several problems with mismatched tags in the help files. That means I can't integrate it for AOO 4.0.1 until these problems are fixed. I don't have time to do that (too many problems) But 4.1 is coming and at this time I hope the problems are solved and we can integrate it. If somebody is able to fix it until tomorrow evening we can integrate it for 4.0.1. But I need an issue. Juergen # Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 14880, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\sbasic\shared\02\1119.xhp/help/par_id3143267///: Property 'src': value different in Translation : \image id=\img_id3155339\ src=\res/commandimagelist/sc_exportdialog.png\ width=\0.1665in\ height=\0.1665in\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37024, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3125865/8//: Property 'hid': value different in Translation : \ahelp hid=\.\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37028, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145271/10//: Property 'hid': value different in Translation : \ahelp hid=\.\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37030, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145647/12//: Property 'hid': value different in Translation : \ahelp hid=\.\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37030, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145647/12//: Extra Tag in Translation: \link href=\text/shared/00/0005.xhp\ name=\OLAP\\ at Position 164 ource\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp 0 helppar_id3145647 12 0 eu \ahelp hid=\SC:RADIOBUTTON:RID_SCDLG_DAPITYPE:BTN_EXTERNAL\\\emph\Kanpoko iturburua\/emph\ren elkarrizketa-koadroa irekiko du; DatuPilotuaren taularentzako \link href=\text/shared/00/0005.xhp\ name=\OLAP\\OLAP\/link\ Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 37030, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\scalc\01\12090100.xhp/help/par_id3145647/12//: Extra Tag in Translation: \/link\ at Position 227\ahelp hid=\SC:RADIOBUTTON:RID_SCDLG_DAPITYPE:BTN_EXTERNAL\\\emph\Kanpoko iturburua\/emph\ren elkarrizketa-koadroa irekiko du; DatuPilotuaren taularentzako \link href=\text/shared/00/0005.xhp\ name=\OLAP\\OLAP\/link\ datu-iturburua hautatu ahal izango duzu.\/ahelp\ 20130618 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 46470, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0020.xhp/help/par_id3159153/109//: Missing Tag in Translation: \link href=\text/shared/00/0200.xhp\ name=\Graphics Export Options\\ at Position 118 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 46470, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0020.xhp/help/par_id3159153/109//: Missing Tag in Translation: \/link\ at Position 219 109 0 eu \emph\Fitxategia - Esportatu\/emph\ bidetik jo daiteke $[officename] Draw eta $[officename]Impress aukera batzuetara. 20130618 17:22:18 Error: File format, Line 46858, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id3149957/24//: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46859, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id3149957/24//: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46859, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id3149957/24//: Translation Language entry double. Checking both. Error: File format, Line 46868, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id314995724///: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46869, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id314995724///: Source Language entry double. Treating as Translation. Error: File format, Line 46869, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0208.xhp/help/par_id314995724///: Translation Language entry double. Checking both. Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 47907, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\00\0450.xhp/help/par_id3150393///: Property 'src': value different in Translation : \image id=\img_id3145606\ src=\res/commandimagelist/sc_tablesort.png\ width=\0.222inch\ height=\0.222inch\\ at Position 0 Error: Translation Tag Missmatch, Line 50289, UniqueID helpcontent2/source\text\shared\01\0117.xhp/help/par_id3151299/2//: Property 'hid': value different in Translation :
Translation on line.
I translated into basque some sentences of the 3.4.1 release working offline, and I would like to help translating into basque the 4.x releases, but I would like to work online in order to be sure that my work is not in conflict with the work of other possible volunteers. What must I do to get a personal account to work in https://translate.apache.org/eu/ ? Regards, Jonpeli
AOO-341-EU. NO problems with the graphics on the spreadsheets!
I'm sorry, there isn't any problem with the graphics. I was working with old files that had some sheets protected with a password. Regards Jon Peli From: oleaga...@hotmail.com To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org Subject: AOO-341-EU. Malfunction of the graphics on the spreadsheets? Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:51:18 + I have downloaded and installed the Basque version on http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/r1429825/windows/ and, at least in the cases that I have tested, the graphics in the spreadsheets cannot be selected. Clicking over them you select de cells behind the graphic.
AOO-341-EU. Malfunction of the graphics on the spreadsheets?
I have downloaded and installed the Basque version on http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/r1429825/windows/ and, at least in the cases that I have tested, the graphics in the spreadsheets cannot be selected. Clicking over them you select de cells behind the graphic.
RE: [RELEASE]: AOO 3.4.1 respin
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 07:11:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 3.4.1 respin From: robw...@apache.org To: d...@openoffice.apache.org CC: l10n@openoffice.apache.org If someone is new to translating for OpenOffice they may not be familiar with this. There is a big list of OpenOffice-compatible dictionaries listed here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries What we need is for the translators to check this list (or other sources of info) and see if there is an appropriate spell checking dictionary. Also see if there is a hyphenation dictionary and thesaurus.If there are available, try them with the snapshot build to confirm that they still install and work correctly with AOO 3.4.1. If so, create the Bugzilla issue per Juergen's request. How can we get the snapshot build?
RE: Translation into Basque
Andrea, I'm afraid we are not being able to get the translation in time to release the basque version in January. Miguel has told me that he cannot work on the translation in the coming days an I am not able to open neither the .tar.bz2 file that he has sent to me nor the one in the address you told me. I am trying to open them with the Winzip program (working in the Windows 7 OS). If I manage to open those files I´ll try to finish the work this week, but being this my first experience in this task the probability of success is low. Thanks a lot for your help. I apologize for my bad English. Best regards, Jon Peli Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:56:58 +0100 From: pesce...@apache.org To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org CC: oleaga...@hotmail.com; marist...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: Translation into Basque Jon Peli Oleaga wrote: Examining the mailing list I see that Miguel Aristondo is already working on the translation into Basque. How can I contact him to see if he needs help and how we can coordinate work? I'm putting Miguel in CC of this message. It would really be great if you manage to have the translation completed by next week (we have a deadline on January 4th), it's at 97% and you can get it done (and this would mean that we can release OpenOffice 3.4.1 in Basque in January). Anyway, PO files are at http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/aoo341_eu_po-files.tar.bz2 and as usual instructions on how to handle them are at http://www.openoffice.org/l10n/how_to_join.html and http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html or can be requested here. Regards, Andrea.
