[lace] Tiara Leaves

2023-05-06 Thread Adele Shaak
Good morning! Anybody else been watching the coronation? I loved the simple, elegant spray of leaves that was repeated throughout the modern-day decoration, and am wondering if anybody knows how the metal leaves were made, that formed Princess Charlotte’s headband? They do look like they might be

Re: [lace] point ground with no gimp

2023-02-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Devon - I am without my lace books at the moment, so I can’t give you any citations. But there is a type of lace that was done in the early 19th century, that is a point ground with no gimp on the outside of the motifs. In the books I have, it was called “Regency Lace” - probably a reference to

[lace] Help With Skeined Cotton Thread

2022-02-25 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi, Everybody: I just got a skein of old linen thread that’s not like anything I’ve ever seen before, here in Canada, but I think maybe some of the Europeans on this list might be familiar with what I have and be able to help me. It’s a single skein, not marked or labelled, and it is very fine -

Re: [lace] Burano Needle Lace in Hallmark movie!

2022-02-13 Thread Adele Shaak
Yes, I saw that, too! Was wondering how accurate the scenes in Burano were, as I’ve never been there, but they certainly looked right. The first movie was made in the Vancouver area, and one of the props assistants contacted our lace club to ask if we could give them advice as to what a late

Re: [lace] Freehand Lace Group?

2022-02-02 Thread Adele Shaak
If this was the freehand lace group on the IOLI Ning site, I believe they are in the process of moving it to a different platform. (I don’t know which one.) Adele > On Feb 2, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Elena Kanagy-Loux wrote: > > Dear Arachnids, > > I was trying to access the Freehand Lace Group

Re: [lace] Honiton design

2022-01-28 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Alex: Could you be thinking of Pauline, Lady Trevelyan? Looking at her Wikipedia entry, she was a friend of Ruskin, the Rossettis, and "various other people” in the pre-Raphaelite movement, although Morris is not mentioned. But I would assume she knew him. In Anne Buck’s book on Thomas

Re: [lace] History of Lacemaking Coming to America

2022-01-04 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Lorri - Also, i believe there was lacemaking in New France (when it was governed by the French before 1763); a lacemaker in Quebec studied this about 20 years ago. She mentioned her research on Arachne, so the info should be in the archives. I think there were French nuns involved in

Re: [lace] RE: lace-digest V2021 #28

2021-10-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Go to the Flickr site and click on “Photostream” in the top menu bar. First there are the doily books that were just raffled off, then there’s a piece of early spangled lace, and then Carmen Roig Ortuño’s lace pillow. Adele > On Oct 9, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: > > Where do I

Re: [lace] spangled lace

2021-06-01 Thread Adele Shaak
What a find! Certainly looks early to me. Last year I did some yardage (from a pattern in Rosemary Shepherd’s Early Lace Workbook) and the cushion motifs and the method of work look very familiar! If I remember correctly, the pattern I worked was dated to the early 1600s. Adele West Vancouver,

Re: [lace] Picture on Flicker

2021-04-14 Thread Adele Shaak
I used to have this problem, but then I realized that if you look at the top menu bar on the Flickr page, there’s an option called “Photostream”. Click on that and the most recent upload will be the first thing you see. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > On Apr 14, 2021, at

Re: [lace] How do you line a lace jacket?

2021-02-07 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Alice: I think it depends a little on what kind of lace she made, what she made it of, and how it reacts when its off the pins. Compare, for example, a densely-woven piece with plenty of cloth stitch and a heavier thread, to some much more flimsy piece of point ground made with fine

Re: [lace] Lace quote

2020-12-17 Thread Adele Shaak
It is an interesting quote. Probably not useful, especially viewed with today’s more utilitarian eyes. Back then, of course, you lived with ornament in the clothing of the moneyed classes. I recall reading somewhere (can’t give you a citation, sorry) that one of the great things about early

Re: [lace] Goddess of Lace?

2020-12-05 Thread Adele Shaak
H. I would guess there isn’t one, given that lacemaking developed in Europe in the late 15th century, long after people only believed in the one God. Lacemakers did have patron saints, of course - Saint Catherine and Saint Andrew, depending on where the lacemaker lived, and probably other

Re: [lace] Speed and efficiency in lace?

2020-11-23 Thread Adele Shaak
There is an old British Pathé newsreel from 1929, where they filmed an elderly lacemaker at work. Given her evident age, she would have learned her lacemaking in the 1860s or so. The interesting thing for me is that she moves the bobbins with her left hand, and puts in the pins with the other.

Re: [lace] Crazy ideas about how old bobbins are?

2020-10-24 Thread Adele Shaak
I’m just thinking about the lacemakers. I’ve read so much about how in the 19th century, as handmade lace competed with machine-made, lacemakers were poorer women, right down to very young girls, who made lace for a pittance, and they supplied their own pillow and bobbins. I would not be

Re: [lace] [Lace] Return to class

2020-08-17 Thread Adele Shaak
There was an article in The Lancet (July 3rd) https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/laninf/PIIS1473-3099(20)30561-2.pdf Talks about how why the danger of surface transmission is less than was originally thought.

Re: [lace] Return to class

2020-08-14 Thread Adele Shaak
Sorry, don’t know why that last bit sent. I was just trying to trim the message, and off it went into the ether. Let’s try again: Just wondering - I have seen wiping with an alcohol-dampened cloth take foil straight off of book covers, so personally I’d worry a little bit about the alcohol

Re: [lace] Dior Used an Extremely Rare Technique Dating Back to the 15th Century to Create This Delicate Detail

2020-07-26 Thread Adele Shaak
I thought the same at first. Then I realized that all this “rare technique dating back” and “in danger of disappearing” talk is just the author, punching up her story. She has seen the workrooms and all the young people making this lace; and knows these phrases aren’t exactly true, but that

Re: [lace] Mystery lace

2020-05-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Speaking from a design standpoint, I really like the way those figures that are outlined in braid and then filled in with half stitch add scattered opaque spots to the lace. Looking at the picture of the whole piece, they really do look like snowflakes! Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast

Re: [lace] Tonder lace

2020-04-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Devon: I took a quick look at Kristensen’s “Tønder Lace: About Lace-making History in Western Sønderjylland from the 17th Century till Today”, and I have are a couple of thoughts for you: First, the lacemakers weren’t following a set traditional style of lace; they were making what was

Re: [lace] Lappet or something else

2020-04-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Devon: Just mucking around with Google translate, I found Muts translated as cap/bonnet, and one of the translations for slip is lappet. So what I’m thinking is that your piece is a kind of lappet, maybe something used in conjunction with the traditional Dutch cap. Adele West Vancouver, BC

Re: [lace] Left handed tricks?

2020-02-26 Thread Adele Shaak
Just to add a fun little wrinkle - something I didn’t know until last year was that whether something is clockwise or counter-clockwise depends entirely on your vantage point. Take a bobbin and start winding thread on clockwise as you’re looking at the head of the bobbin. Then continue the same

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-15 Thread Adele Shaak
I think she’s making bobbin lace, all right. If you’re describing something in a manuscript that also contains information about lots of other things, your space is probably limited. You get the most bang for your buck, illustration-wise, by depicting several things at once. So you draw a

Re: [lace] Lace knitting

2020-01-27 Thread Adele Shaak
Thanks for the story! Miniature lace knitting is so impressive! I did a little lace knitting many years ago; then I tried a Shetland shawl that I realized, on about the 5th try, had a mistake in the pattern! I haven’t done any since. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > On Jan

Re: [lace] Sarah Dazeley hanging bobbin

2020-01-26 Thread Adele Shaak
Cindy - it’s a bobbin that commemorates a public hanging. Yes, that was a thing. Adele West Vancouver, BC > On Jan 26, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Cindy from Dallas wrote: > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is a “hanging bobbin”? > > Cindy from Dallas > Ravelry ID:cinhad > knittingyards.wordpress.com

[lace] Hoping for a better translation

2020-01-24 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Everybody - I have an old (1987) leaflet of patterns from Jana Novak, called “Julekniplinger”. I think it is written in Swedish; maybe it’s Danish; I don’t know. I am trying to identify the thread; it calls for “bleget hør”. I plugged that into Google's Swedish/English translator, and it

Fwd: [lace] lace-digest V2019 #57

2019-11-06 Thread Adele Shaak
I never find anything in the folders; if you look up at the top menu you’ll see something called “Photostream” and that’s where I found the train bobbin. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the Photostream shows all the uploaded photos in the order they were uploaded, with the most recent

[lace] Railway Bobbin

2019-10-28 Thread Adele Shaak
I love the railway bobbin! I think that when railways first appeared (ca 1830), they were an amazing thing; I can see somebody carving this design onto a bobbin in commemoration of the day they saw the train. I once saw an early (as in, 1835 or so) advertising poster for an English railway

Re: [lace] 1851 Great Exhibition catalogue

2019-10-10 Thread Adele Shaak
I found a short reference to Mrs. Treadwin’s display (#55, on about p. 103). Mrs. Treadwin is ringing a bell in my mind but I don’t know why. Was she the one who designed Victoria’s wedding lace? Or? Adele > On Oct 10, 2019, at 4:02 AM, Diana Smith > wrote: > > Thank you for the link

[lace] "Jean Lucinda's Lace Lessons"

2019-09-27 Thread Adele Shaak
Just to let you know a member of our local found Jean Lucinda. I don’t know how you can search somebody just by their first and middle names, without knowing the last, but she does! Jean Lucinda turned out to be longtime local lacemaker Jean Astbury (1905-1991). Jean was the first lacemaker I

[lace] "Jean Lucinda's Lace Lessons"

2019-09-26 Thread Adele Shaak
Our lace club meeting was today, and one member brought in a cardboard box she was given, with a label “Jean Lucinda’s Lace Lessons” (hand-lettered; not a commercial label). The contents of the box suggest that this was a set of lessons you could subscribe to, and that perhaps the teacher’s

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Devon: I’ve taken a look at this weird little thing in extreme closeup. If it’s a decoration it is odd that it is completely plain. I am struck by the fact that it is in line with the pricking, and it covers the space between the top of the pricking and the drawer opening, and I wonder if

Re: [lace] re the Marian Powys essay. Not so good!

2019-08-14 Thread Adele Shaak
I'll read your Marian Powys essay no matter where it is published or how many footnotes it may contain (I prefer zero, but that’s just me). About a decade ago I discovered a very interesting factoid about the famous first line of Jane Austen’s “Pride & Prejudice” (“It is a truth universally

Re: [lace-chat] Posts and summer

2019-07-02 Thread Adele Shaak
My lace club went through this a little over a year ago; we ended with a higher rent but a much better place. Good luck with the move and the new library system. I think most clubs have to keep their library off-site; it takes a bit of getting used to but it can work well. Adele > The guild

Re: [lace-chat] Posts

2019-07-02 Thread Adele Shaak
I don’t think so, Sue. Just don’t have anything to chat about, I guess. The weather? It’s supposed to be July 2nd but this morning we’ve got good weather for October (13 celsius and rainy). Good weather for sitting and making lace - indoors, in a cosy living-room - but I’m working. I hear

Fwd: [lace] Wedding lace

2019-06-23 Thread Adele Shaak
I have uploaded a photo of the “wedding handkerchief” to the Vancouver Lace Club website: https://vanlaceclub.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/weddinglace1.jpg It’s not up on Flickr; I couldn’t figure out how to do that.

[lace] Wedding lace

2019-06-23 Thread Adele Shaak
Good morning! I’ve got a question: Does anybody know anything about antique wedding lace? I have a piece of Duchesse lace that is approx. 13 inches (33 cm) square. It is filled with flowers and other motifs that have to do with weddings and fertility. So, I’m pretty sure it was used as part of

Re: [lace] Honiton? Beds?

2019-06-18 Thread Adele Shaak
I’m not sure, but I’d say it was Beds because it not only doesn’t have raised & rolled work, it also doesn’t have the coarse thread that I connect with Honiton lace. Also it looks to me like it is made all-in-one - the motifs and the ground made at the same time. Adele > On Jun 18, 2019, at

Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-17 Thread Adele Shaak
I always think of the word “lash” as in “lash together” Adele > Possibly the logic for offering the term "weld" is that two pieces of > It would be interesting to know the etymology of "lassen" - maybe has a > Latin origin. "Lasso" comes to mind, as also the root word of "lace" but I > could be

Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-16 Thread Adele Shaak
My understanding is that lassen is used when the end of a pattern overlaps the beginning; and the patterns therefore match. This would have nothing to do with corners; it would be done in the one place in the lace piece where the end overlapped the beginning. So, if you were making a hankie

Re: [lace] On Arachne since 1996

2019-04-27 Thread Adele Shaak
I think it was 1996 when I joined; not right at the beginning, but not much later. I vividly remember how awesome it was to be able to get lacemaking information directly from real people who actually knew what they were talking about. How long ago that was - 25 years in physical time, but a

Re: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

2019-03-06 Thread Adele Shaak
OK. I’ve been reading Santina Levey this morning, and I think the collar in the Jan Six XI Rembrandt is indeed bobbin lace. Read Levey's remarks on Flemish bobbin lace on p. 23 and take a good look at plates 112 and 135 - 140. The Flemish falling collars are specifically mentioned as being made

Re: [lace-chat] Lace on stamps - my re-organised web pages.

2019-03-04 Thread Adele Shaak
Looks good, Ann! Everything I tried worked just fine. I have bookmarked your page so I can come back to it and see what else you have! I’m on an Apple iMac desktop. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > On Mar 3, 2019, at 8:06 AM, Ann McClean wrote: > > I've just spent the last

Re: [lace] What's in a thread

2019-02-22 Thread Adele Shaak
I watched it on YouTube with the slides - really interesting. Thank you so much for posting, Veronika. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > Textile historian Angharad Rixon has posted a talk, with slides, about > the use of non-linen threads in 17th century needle lace: > >

Re: [lace] Bobbin question

2019-02-16 Thread Adele Shaak
I think we need a woodworker to chime in here, but I believe that bobbins that are not professionally made may also be rough because of the type of wood used. A coarse-grained splintery softwood is never going to give you the finish of a dense hardwood. Or so I understand. Adele West Vancouver,

Re: [lace] Downton Lace

2019-01-31 Thread Adele Shaak
I’m also thinking about how lace was traded - lacemakers were paid by the length they made, and they didn’t make 50 yards of it in one long length the way machines do. It was cut off when the tally-man came, so all lace would be in fairly short pieces - of varying lengths. Looking at the

Re: [lace] English point ground lace

2019-01-23 Thread Adele Shaak
I always think it’s a little like cooking: Seven people make Irish Stew. This one cuts her carrots crosswise into buttons, that one quarters her carrots and cuts them into chunks. Everybody’s potatoes look a little different. This one leaves out one ingredient. That one likes to put in plenty

Re: [lace] Alice Howell hacked?

2019-01-16 Thread Adele Shaak
Oh, that and so much more. Thank goodness we are not all as innocent as we used to be! Instead, we ask questions like: - why is Alice trying to get me to buy a gift card at 5:42 a.m. Pacific time? - Alice has a full life and many friends. Why would she need me to buy a gift card for her? - Even

Re: [lace-chat] Urgent Favor...........Alice Howell

2019-01-16 Thread Adele Shaak
Wondering, from those of you more computer-crime-savvy than I am - Usually, these emails would have a link included, and the link would take you to some website that looks like Gamestop (whatever that is) and if you were foolish enough to buy a gift card they would then harvest your name and

Re: [lace-chat] Wishes

2018-12-31 Thread Adele Shaak
Yes, let’s all wish one another a very Happy New Year! May good luck and good lace come your way! Janice, your New Year’s Eve sounds exhausting, but good fun. You must be very speedy to make so many appetizers in just one hour. My own celebration will be a quiet home-alone thing - I would

Re: [lace] Lace Advent Calendar 2018

2018-11-30 Thread Adele Shaak
I clicked on the window for December 1 about ten times, then refreshed the screen, then clicked on it another couple of times, and then, finally, realized that it is not December 1st yet. Looking forward to the calendar as always, Jean! Adele > Once again David and I have produced a Lace

Re: [lace] Teachers or no Teachers

2018-11-24 Thread Adele Shaak
Your lace may very well be as good as, or even better than, lace made by someone who has had a teacher. Or not. Some people can have the best teachers and still produce bad lace. Some don’t tension well. Some have short attention spans. Some people can’t see as well as they think they can.

Re: [lace] Belgium in WWI: Flour Sacks and Lace

2018-10-27 Thread Adele Shaak
Didn’t work for me, either, but I discovered that’s because there was a spelling error in putting up the page! Hit this link for information on war lace in “Beligan” https://laceioli.ning.com/forum/topics/beligan-war-lace-from-wwi

Re: [lace] Book recommended

2018-09-28 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Jeri: I searched the title and author and immediately came up with the publisher’s page for the book: http://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/The-Lace-Weaver/Lauren-Chater/978192 5596335 As you can see,

Re: [lace] Book recommended

2018-09-27 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Ilske, Good suggestion, but our problem is the other way around. It’s not the word lace, it’s that the author uses words associated with weaving, knitting and embroidery - all very different things - to describe the same thing. So, in your example, your Spitze is either Strick- or Häkel-

Re: [lace] Book recommended

2018-09-27 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi David - I’m with you. Weavers have a few techniques they call lace - in which they create regular patterns of holes in the cloth as they weave it. So there are weavers who weave lace. However, that’s not what Lauren Chater is talking about in her book. I looked up her publisher’s (Simon

Re: [lace] Securing knots in silk

2018-09-27 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Liz: If you’ve done Japanese embroidery and have finished it with wheat paste, then you will know whether or not the paste will show. It might depend on the colour of thread you’ve used. Even clear glue will make a noticeable dark spot on the thread; I don’t think wheat paste will do that.

Re: [lace] Design program

2018-09-19 Thread Adele Shaak
I learned on Adobe Illustrator, which cost a lot but I loved it. Then Apple upgraded their operating systems and I lost my version, and couldn’t get it back because by then Illustrator was subscription-only and I did not want to go that route. So I had no good computer graphics program for a

Re: [lace] IOLI Convention 2019

2018-09-08 Thread Adele Shaak
It’s a weird thing - but try checking on different days of the week. Honestly! Tuesday is a really good day to check. Plus it’s a lng time until Convention, and there are often seat sales in the winter-time. I’m no expert; these are just things I’ve noticed over the years. Adele West

Re: [lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-07 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Susan: Normally I don’t use support pins in Binche; I have learned tensioning methods that work well for me. Of course, when I am in a class taught by a support pin fanatic, I use them. Life is easier that way. Here’s the thing - if I understand your description, you’re cloth-stitching

Re: [lace] Mystery thread

2018-09-03 Thread Adele Shaak
I let Google translate this page and it turned out quite well: https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en=nl=http://www.ethesis.net/aa lst_textiel/deel_I/aalst_textiel_deel_I_2_g.htm=search

Re: [lace] Guttermans Threads

2018-09-03 Thread Adele Shaak
There are several different kinds of Gutterman threads, in both synthetic and natural fibres. Gutterman’s silk and their 100% cotton work well for lace. I haven’t worked with any of their polyester threads. Adele > Are Guttermans threads suitable for lacemaking? My local haberdashery has >

Re: [lace] Aurifil Mako 80

2018-08-23 Thread Adele Shaak
… and so sorry that I didn’t trim my last post … Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site:

Re: [lace] Aurifil Mako 80

2018-08-23 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Susan: I just got some - mail-ordered because I couldn’t find it locally. I bought it because I saw someone using it at a class and it looks really nice. It’s the right size for many of the finer lace patterns that we see, and comes in lovely colours. It’s a good size if you’re going to try

Re: [lace] early lace video

2018-07-17 Thread Adele Shaak
I think if you made lace for a living, you went as fast as you could, and certainly making lace with one hand and putting in pins with the other is a big step up in speed. Probably different lacemakers had different solutions to the problem of “how can I make this faster”. I know when I was

Re: [lace] early youtube of bobbin and/or needle lacemaking

2018-07-16 Thread Adele Shaak
The Youtube films of lacemaking seem to all date from 1929-1931. This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf9pmm7Yk78 shows an elderly woman making tamboured lace. In the last part, you can clearly see, not only the hand on top of the fabric, but how

Re: [lace] Oldest lace group

2018-06-17 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Devon: Depends on what you’re thinking of. The words organization or guild could equally apply to the small lacemaking clubs that dot our landscape, where individual lacemakers may be taught or helped but perhaps not in the direct and systematic way you’re thinking of. In 2019 The Denman &

Re: [lace] Working all 4 bobbins in your hands at once

2018-06-15 Thread Adele Shaak
It’s called “Lace of Long Ago” (1931). You can find it on the British Pathe site, but it’s easier to find on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcSaAXtZsc I wish they had shown a closeup of her making the tally! You can see it appearing

Re: [lace] Help me remember a movie

2018-05-23 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Devon: Doesn’t ring a bell, but I took a little run through Google: There was a 1941 film called “A Woman's Face”, that was an American remake of a 1938 Swedish film with the same name. I’m suggesting it because I think both are set in Sweden, so the lacemaking might be a factor. Plus, the

Re: [lace] the logic of Binche

2018-05-21 Thread Adele Shaak
I think it is actually more difficult to make Binche (and other laces) following a thread diagram than it would be if you made the lace yourself from nothing more than a cartoon. It might actually be more fun, too. When you follow the diagram of what somebody else did, you aren’t working

Re: [lace] mathematicians, IT engineers and lacemaking

2018-05-19 Thread Adele Shaak
It seems to me that lacemaking provides many things to many people. Small children can learn simple Torchon patterns quite easily. Adults with no particular math skills may make lace their whole lives without ever finding a need to go dig out their trig tables (yes, I know that dates me, but

Re: [lace] traditionalists and short-cutters

2018-05-16 Thread Adele Shaak
> some kind of tension between Gertrude Biederman, > holding a traditionalist point of view, and Kathe Kliot representing a > modern art-lace position Even today, there is tension between the traditionalist point of view and the modern art-lace position, but I recall the tension being much

Re: [lace] Introducing myself

2018-05-14 Thread Adele Shaak
Generally with laces, as with other fragile items, you don’t want to put too much force on one particular spot, so I think tweezers or tongs are really the wrong thing to use; I don’t remember having heard of someone using them. You want to always have as much of the fabric supported as

Re: [lace] Single space between sentences; avoid quotations/apostrophes

2018-05-09 Thread Adele Shaak
With typewriters, daisy-wheel printers, and the other early technologies, each letter had to be given the same amount of space on the page. Two spaces after the period helped readers understand that a new sentence had begun, and so that was considered a good typing habit. However, when digital

Re: [lace] Anniversary

2018-04-12 Thread Adele Shaak
I’ve been on Arachne since 1996 - just about the beginning. I will always remember the excitement of reading the many, many pages of messages that came every day in my digest. So much information, and I wanted to print it all out! I had been making lace in a vacuum - none of my friends or

Re: [lace] Bath-changing style of contemporary Needlelace 1970s onwards

2018-04-03 Thread Adele Shaak
I’ve always understood that those patterns - very popular in medieval times - where there’s a matrix of diamond shapes, are called diaper patterns. So, a repeating shape, usually in a diamond form. I think the North American use of “diaper” for baby’s nappies comes from the traditional

[lace] Thread Sizes & Elsie Gubser

2018-04-02 Thread Adele Shaak
I have a copy of Elsie Gubser’s “Bobbin Lace” - where she explains that Brussels Lace must be made with very fine thread and that for her sample she had used Knox’s 150/2 lace thread, which "will have to do until finer thread is on the market.” Well, Mrs. Gubser - we’re still waiting!

Re: [lace] Colour in lace-radical or historically correct?

2018-04-02 Thread Adele Shaak
Historically linen was difficult to dye and to get the dye to stay. I think that’s why the fabled bright yellow starch was so popular - you got a good colour that mimicked gold, and because the dye was in the starch, every time the lace was washed, it was re-coloured by the starch. Adele > I

Re: [lace] Lace Revival of the 1970s

2018-03-26 Thread Adele Shaak
Maybe a chicken-and-egg thing? The books inspire the students who provide the market for more books … but what triggered the interest in the 70s in the first place - I’d bet on a backlash from the super-modern 60s. There’s only so much bright yellow and lime green Fortrel a body can take. I

Re: [lace] Lace Revival of the 1970s

2018-03-26 Thread Adele Shaak
the early books the author tended to think that the student had seen bobbin lace before and just needed a bit more information. Hope somewhere in all this is a nugget you can use. Adele Shaak > Sue, your observation about taking a class in an adult school in England is > interesting. I

Re: [lace] Irish Lace Pattern

2018-03-07 Thread Adele Shaak
Lorri: I’m wondering if maybe your student means a knotwork “Celtic” pattern, since that what we see associated with Ireland so often, rather than a BL pattern that was traditionally made in Ireland. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Lorri Ferguson

Re: [lace-chat] USA places to visit help

2018-03-05 Thread Adele Shaak
David, I think you’re thinking of the Navajo. The vast (71,000 sq. km) Navajo Reservation is mostly in northeastern Arizona and also extends into New Mexico and into bits of Colorado and Utah. Major cities nearby are Flagstaff (to the west) and Phoenix, Arizona (to the southwest, and a bit

Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

2018-02-02 Thread Adele Shaak
Benton & Johnson! Yes, that was it. I couldn’t find them on the web any more - thanks for the info that I should be looking for Toye, Kenning & Spencer. Not that I want anything, but I do like to keep up with who the suppliers are and where I can find them. Adele > > Benton and Johnson are

Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

2018-02-02 Thread Adele Shaak
I just got my “Lace” magazine - does anybody know this frogging technique? Was it traditionally made using ribbon or a metal strip? The picture looks to me like a thin strip of gold-coloured metal, rather than ribbon, but I haven’t heard of the technique before and I don’t know for sure. Back

Re: [lace] Walter Evans and Co.'s Mecklenburg thread No. 20

2017-12-13 Thread Adele Shaak
I found Mrs. Beeton’s book online, and found directions for using Mecklenburg thread along with embroidery cotton to do cutwork, so they must have been two different things. Judging from the way they used the thread in the pattern, if I were doing that today I would substitute pearl cotton,

Re: [lace] hint

2017-12-11 Thread Adele Shaak
> that would be a lot of work, and really slow me down > way too much, considering how often they change in Binche I tried the elastic thing once and once only! My problem was that stopping - at all - irritates me. Plus, at times I merrily laced away without remembering the elastics were on

Re: [lace] date for Bucks point

2017-12-11 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Alex: I tried to find an answer, too, but like you I had little luck. The French book “Dentelles Normandes: La Blonde de Caen” is a history book and has a lot of information about Blonde lace, but the emphasis is on business, not on technique, though there are a few places where they

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year > old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich, MA > a point ground lace? If I were making lace 70-odd years after I started, I hope I’d be making a different pattern. ;-) But honestly,

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I do hope that if I were making lace 70 years from now, I would not be making the same pattern ;-) Adele > On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:19 AM, DevonThein wrote: > > But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year > old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked

Re: [lace] Ipswich, MA lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Susan: It’s explained in the book. They did make white lace in Ipswich (MA) - perhaps even a large amount of white lace - and the original samples sent to Alexander Hamilton comprised 22 samples in black silk and 14 samples in white linen. Unfortunately, the whereabouts of the page of white

[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are *not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. Adele West

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Adele Shaak
I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are *not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. Adele West

Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace pillow

2017-12-08 Thread Adele Shaak
Thanks Karen for posting this URL - I had lost any previous messages that had this link. What fun I had looking at the photos! If you haven’t tried the link yet - they are high definition photos. Click on the photo so that it fills the page, and then you can zoom in so close you can see the

Re: [lace] St Catherine's Day - Cattern Cakes

2017-11-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Because I had all the ingredients on hand, I just made the Cattern cakes recipe, which is exactly as Phillipa has typed out in her message. My verdict: I weighed everything and then measured it in North American cups. You wind up with roughly 3-¼ cups of dry ingredients that are supposed to be

Re: [lace] St. Catherine's Day-Cattern Cakes

2017-11-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Devon: Just to say I suggest you *don’t* make the recipe found in the book “Cattern Cakes and Lace”. It sounds good, and I had high hopes for it, but the cookies were astoundingly dry. Maybe there’s a misprint and maybe a professional baker could look at the recipe and find the problem; I

Re: [lace] Belgian color code

2017-09-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Thank you, Greet, for the extended colour code. Most of the lacemakers I know are familiar with the meanings for green, purple, red, and possibly yellow, but most do not know the other ones. Sometimes we have long discussions about it at my lace club. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of

Re: [lace] Keeping track of where you are

2017-09-16 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Jane and Arachne: > It's interesting to read the different ways different people tackle the problem, and I'm sitting here wondering how many who regularly use the ghost pillow/voodoo board method were self taught? I was originally self-taught, though I have had many different teachers over

Re: [lace] Colour Coding

2017-09-14 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Jocelyn: I can’t recall any books that mention a ghost pillow, a voodoo board, or the concept under any other name. It is something that was suggested to me as I was floundering around in Old Flanders, but whether it’s an old idea or something fairly recent I couldn’t say. When I use it, I

Re: [lace] Lace samples

2017-09-13 Thread Adele Shaak
Mine go into a little plastic storage box. Yes, plastic. Yes, I know it will degrade them. Probably not before I’ve snuffed it, though. Adele West Vancouver, BC > On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:10 PM, H M Clarke > wrote: > > I'm wondering what you all do with your

Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

2017-09-13 Thread Adele Shaak
I call mine a voodoo board, too! The first time I used one, I was doing what I now think was a fairly simple Old Flanders pattern. I couldn’t follow the pattern just by looking at it. In fact, even once I had the board I still had problems, because I was so confused that I would get lost during

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