Re: LI Colo. Closes Youth Prison

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I didn't even know that they had "private prisons" until that deal came up in Texas where the prisoners were being beaten. I don't think that private prisons are a good idea because there isn't anyone to really watch over how they are run, I

Parental responsibility was Re: LI DP for 11 year olds

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue :) I more than understand your position, and I think in a utopian world we would all like this, but in the real world things are much different. My main point is quite simply this, there are parent's that have done everything in their power to raise

Re: LI Supreme Court, Angel Francisco Breard

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I dunno. That is a question for Dr. L. or Ed. Where are you guys. :) Sue Hi Sue That that could be used as a precedent, couldn't it for insisting on a unanimous decision? jackief -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people

Re: LI Child death sentence

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Terry: I have to admit that you are probably right about that. However that doesn't explain why every child born in poverty doesn't turn to crime though. There are a lot, probably most, who don't. Sue Hi Sue, Maybe as long as you are wondering

Re: LI Child death sentence

1998-04-22 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Terry: I have to admit that you are probably right about that. However that doesn't explain why every child born in poverty doesn't turn to crime though. There are a lot, probably most, who don't. Hi Sue, Children with

Re: LI Child death sentence

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Terry: You may have been kidding, but I have been watching 48 Hours tonight and it is about kids who kill, and why. It looks to me that you may just be right. :( Sue Hi Sue, Children with rotten parents often turn out good and monsters can have

LI Graham: Pretrial Hearings Update

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first day in the latest string of pretrial hearings for David Graham found prosecutors attempting to subpoena between 2,000 and 3,000 pages of letters that Graham wrote to his former fiancee Diane Zamora -- and Zamora's attorneys refusing on the basis of

Re: LI Child death sentence

1998-04-22 Thread Jackie Fellows
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Terry And the sad part of this is that the welfare reform, according to some, are going to hit children the hardest. So it is likely we will see more problem children. It seems like we do mind putting a large number of children at risk to ensure

Re: LI Colo. Closes Youth Prison

1998-04-22 Thread Jackie Fellows
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue Like everything there are pro and con for making prisons, and other human service organizations a profit making organization. And many are well run, but there is always the risk of some putting profit ahead of the goal just as in any other

LI For a laugh

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey all this is funny! Read the whole thing you'll get a good laugh from it :) http://members.xoom.com/DiamondB/mybestfriend.html -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either"

LI Mary Kay (not cosmetics)

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEW YORK (April 21, 1998 1:37 p.m. EDT http://www.nando.net) -- The jailed Seattle schoolteacher who says she is pregnant with the second child of her 14-year-old former pupil believes she and the boy had at least 10 children together in a past life.

Re: LI Colo. Closes Youth Prison

1998-04-22 Thread DocCec
DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-22 00:41:20 EDT, you write: I didn't even know that they had "private prisons" until that deal came up in Texas where the prisoners were being beaten. I don't think that private prisons are a good idea because there isn't anyone

Re: LI Another One Bites the Dust

1998-04-22 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Ron, We disagree about the death penalty but that is beside the point. Maybe the lives of American citizens abroad matter little. But is the rule of law of so little concern to you? What "clemency people" are there BTW? "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: LI SUSAN MCDOUGAL IMPLICATES NEW YORK TIMES

1998-04-22 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Sue, I find it amazing how some people have become so two faced about this. People who have spoken out quite strongly about the rights of defendants and the overbearing power of the authorities now sing a different tune when it comes to

Re: LI SUSAN MCDOUGAL IMPLICATES NEW YORK TIMES

1998-04-22 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Only the clever ones. I wouldn't worry too much if I were you. VBG Bill On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:12:52 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue, Think they will ever track down all 100 million of us secret

Re: LI SUSAN MCDOUGAL IMPLICATES NEW YORK TIMES

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: I don't know who is using, or why, Susan McDougal is being used, but I believed her in that interview. She has stuck to her story since day one, despite the fact that she could have saved herself from hell, like others have done, by doing

Re: LI Another One Bites the Dust

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Terry: Dr. L. brought up something, and Jackie and I wonder too, there was not a 100% vote by the Supremes on this. And from reading their decision it looked to me like one of the reasons was that they didn't really have time to look into the

Re: LI Another One Bites the Dust

1998-04-22 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue, A single Supreme Court Justice can issue a stay awaiting a decision by the Supreme Court but there is no requirement ever for a unanimous Supreme Court in any decision. The vote was 6-3 to let the execution proceed despite the violation of our treaty

Re: LI Mary Kay (not cosmetics)

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Ron: I certainly hope that the father keeps those kids in Alaska, and away from this woman. She is nuts, IMO, and needs psychiatric help. I hope that she is getting it. Sue Letourneau predicted she would be reunited with the four children she had

Re: LI Another One Bites the Dust

1998-04-22 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Ron, We disagree about the death penalty but that is beside the point. Maybe the lives of American citizens abroad matter little. But is the rule of law of so little concern to you? Terry: I believe it is a two-way

LI NOW Will Not Back Paula Jones

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was just announced on the noon news, CBS, that NOW is not going to back Paula Jones. Partricia Ireland said that they don't feel that her case should be held up as an example of sexual harassment in the work place. And they didn't like the idea of the

LI Susan McDougal To Face Grand Jury

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Susan McDougal To Face Grand Jury LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- Federal marshals plucked Susan McDougal from a Los Angeles prison this morning for a trip to Little Rock and an appearance before the same special

LI Bush Backs Clinton on Starr Request

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bush Backs Clinton on Starr Request WASHINGTON (AP) -- Making a foray into the Monica Lewinsky investigation, former President George Bush is lending his support to the Secret Service's efforts to keep its

LI NOW Won't Support Jones Appeal

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NOW Won't Support Jones Appeal WASHINGTON (AP) -- Declaring its national board and local chapters overwhelmingly against it, the National Organization for Women said today it will not file legal papers on

Re: LI NOW Will Not Back Paula Jones

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was just announced on the noon news, CBS, that NOW is not going to back Paula Jones. Partricia Ireland said that they don't feel that her case should be held up as an example of sexual harassment in the work place. And they didn't like the idea of

Re: LI Susan McDougal To Face Grand Jury

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The lawyer, Mark Geragos, claims Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth W. Starr has no right to put Mrs. McDougal, a former business partner of President Clinton, before the panel because of questions about Starr's

Re: LI Evidence of New Planets Is Cited--Steve

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (AP) -- The clearest evidence yet of new worlds forming beyond the sun has been found by astronomers using sensitive new heat-seeking instruments focused on a star some 220 light-years from

Re: LI Evidence of New Planets Is Cited--Steve

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Ron One light year equals 5.9 *t*rillion miles. Sue I watched that report with interest. 220 light years away, someone help me, how many miles does light travel in a year? They would have to have some incredible mode of travel to visit us in

LI Lewinsky, Lawyer To Skip White House Dinner

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Neither Monica Lewinsky nor her attorney will attend Saturday's annual White House correspondent's dinner, William Ginsburg says, adding that it would be "tasteless" to do so. Paula Jones will attend the dinner as a guest of the

LI Whitewater Witness Goes on Trial in Arkansas

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Key Whitewater witness David Hale goes on trial in Arkansas today after Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas refused to block the state from pursuing charges of lying to insurance regulators against him. Hale goes on trial in

LI Clinton Successor at Arkansas Grand Jury

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (Reuters) - Former Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker Tuesday made his second appearance before the Whitewater grand jury but declined to discuss the substance of his testimony or to say if it involved either President or Mrs. Clinton. "It

Re: LI Evidence of New Planets Is Cited--Steve

1998-04-22 Thread Steve Wright
Steve Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Light travels at 186,000 miles per second, but not in a straight line as gravity can twist the fabric of space and light will curve. The fastest time someone could travel from there to here is no time at all. Take a piece of paper and put a point with a

Re: LI Whitewater Witness Goes on Trial in Arkansas

1998-04-22 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hale argued a plea agreement and immunity granted to him by Whitewater prosecutors in 1994 should protect him in the state case. He also claimed the case was political payback by his opponents for his cooperation with independent

Re: LI Evidence of New Planets Is Cited--Steve

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fastest time someone could travel from there to here is no time at all. Do you propose to know something about the gravitational fields acting on those light waves 220 light years away? Eventually that light has to travel billions of miles, whether

Re: LI Evidence of New Planets Is Cited--Steve

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Ron One light year equals 5.9 *t*rillion miles. Sue 220 X 5.9 = 1298 trillion miles ( not exactly from adjacent points on a piece of paper) 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL

Re: LI Digs Fail To Verify Iraq Warheads

1998-04-22 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:20:16 -0700 "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And such selective faith! Clinton denies Paula Jones's allegations and denies that he had sex with Monica Lewinsky and that he

Re: LI Starr Wars With Secret Service

1998-04-22 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Sue, I read that former President George Bush sides with the administration on this one and does not think that the witch hunter should be allowed to question the secret service personnel. I bet the right wingers were ticked off about that

Re: LI Feminism to Support Jones ?

1998-04-22 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:24:07 -0700 "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are women who are REALLY abused in the work place and the Paula Jones of the world simply make it that much more

Re: LI NOW Will Not Back Paula Jones

1998-04-22 Thread Jackie Fellows
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ronald Helm wrote: Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue That is fine with Paula most likely. It would have been alot like the Democratic National Committee, supporting her. The radical feminist left would hardly want to see Clinton

LI Linda McCartney's death

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An investigation has been launched into the death of Linda McCartney, By the Santa Barbara Sheriffs. Sue -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message

LI Pope, Head Clemency Man

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pope appeals to Texas Gov. Bush to stop execution Pope John Paul has written to Texas Gov. George Bush Jr., asking him to spare the life of condemned murderer Joseph Cannon, Vatican sources said Wednesday. The sources said the pope sent a letter on

Re: LI NOW Will Not Back Paula Jones

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is NOW membership all radical feminists? Jackie You answered your own question..."Of course, I really don't know of any right wing feminist groups--now that is an oxymoron if I ever heard one." Take a look at who NOW endorsed in the last election

Re: LI NOW Will Not Back Paula Jones

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ronald Helm wrote: "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is NOW membership all radical feminists? Jackie You answered your own question..."Of course, I really don't know of any right wing feminist groups--now that is an oxymoron if I ever

Re: LI Linda McCartney's death

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An investigation has been launched into the death of Linda McCartney, By the Santa Barbara Sheriffs. Sue Probably another Vast Right Wing Conspiracy that caused her metastatic breast cancersheesh!Ron 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad

Re: LI Presidential Scandals in U.S. History

1998-04-22 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Re: LI Presidential Scandals in U.S. History

1998-04-22 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Sue, They, including Starr, are all on the "payroll" in one way or another IMO. The GOP will do whatever it takes to try to pull down a democratic President. And they never have sense enough to know when to quit when public opinion runs against

Re: Paula's Legal Fees was LI Presidential Scandals in U.S. History

1998-04-22 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Jackie, No new Mercedez for Paula? Tsk, tsk! Even the Republican Party must be on a budget these days! :) Vi _ You wrote: Hi Vi--heard her Mercedes isn't new--of course, Mercedes do not lose their

Re: LI DP for 11 year olds

1998-04-22 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Kathy, You remove their privileges and wow, do they ever shape up quickly! Think of "grounding" them, no televisiion, no telephone calls to or from their buddies, no desserts with their meals, meals in their room, no new clothes, abed by eight

Re: LI Feminism to Support Jones ?

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The biggest problem for Paula Jones is her own lack of credibility and the people she has become associated with who are calling all the shots. Bill Pssst, Bill, just between you and me I think Paula Jones is another Pinocchio and that is why her nose

Re: LI DP for 11 year olds

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Vi: I agree with everything you said here except sending them to their rooms. With the tv's, vcr's, video games, computers, etc. Most kids love an live in their rooms. :) I heard one woman say that she sends hers to the bathroom. Kinda a good idea

Re: LI Linda McCartney's death

1998-04-22 Thread DocCec
DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-22 19:19:32 EDT, you write: Probably another Vast Right Wing Conspiracy that caused her metastatic breast cancersheesh!Ron Something about there not being a death certificate, isn't it? I suppose there's the possibility she

Re: LI Pope, Head Clemency Man

1998-04-22 Thread DocCec
DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-22 19:24:28 EDT, you write: Hi Ron: I don't think anyone pays that much attention to this. After all it is kind of his job to say something, and he is Catholic after all. BG Sue The pontiff's appeal did not enter into

Re: LI Linda McCartney's death

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Doc: Now Paul MaCartney is saying that she didn't die in Santa Barbara, that they were at a secret place so that the family could come home without being disturbed. When I heard about her dying I told my husband then, that I thought it was a Dr.

Re: LI Pope, Head Clemency Man

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DocCec wrote: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-22 19:24:28 EDT, you write: Hi Ron: I don't think anyone pays that much attention to this. After all it is kind of his job to say something, and he is Catholic after

Re: LI Pope, Head Clemency Man

1998-04-22 Thread DocCec
DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-22 21:37:41 EDT, you write: I'm Catholic too. :) What I ment is that being Pope and Catholic it is expected that he would ask that these people be spared death. That's all. And with it being expected, no one would really pay that

LI Grossberg: Plea agreement Text

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Delaware v. Amy Grossberg Plea agreement Amy Grossberg, 19, accused of murdering her newborn son and leaving his body in the dumpster of a Delaware motel, plead guilty to manslaughter April 22, 1998. Manslaughter charges can carry up

LI Grossberg: Plea reached

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amy Grossberg, one of the two New Jersey teens accused of killing her newborn in a Delaware motel and throwing him in a dumpster, pled guilty to reduced charges of manslaughter today. Grossberg, who was scheduled to go on trial May 5 for second-degree murder in

LI Peterson: Plea Agreement Text

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Delaware v. Brian Peterson Plea agreement Brian Peterson, 19, captured national headlines after being accused with his girlfriend Amy Grossberg of murdering their newborn son and dumping his body in a Delaware motel dumpster. With

Re: LI Texas To Execute Teen Murderer

1998-04-22 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the Pope and Terry think he should not be executed! TICRon The Pope might tell God what He thinks but the Pope doesn't have a vote. I do. Hehehehe. Best, Terry "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The

LI A Web Site :)

1998-04-22 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wanna see something trippy? Go to http://lindatripp.com/ You can even donate money to her defense fund if you want. Sue -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of

Re: LI Linda McCartney's death

1998-04-22 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone mentioned the possibility that this was an assisted suicide, or suicide on Linda's part. I guess either scenario is illegal, except in Oregon presently, so that is why the sheriff is calling for an investigation ? Ron 99 percent of lawyers

LI COTD: Boost, Werner

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A child of post-war Germany, Werner Boost began stealing at age six, spending several years in a home for delinquents near Magdeburg. Released for military service near the end of World War II, he had a fleeting taste of action prior to being captured by the

LI Lunatic Fringe of Psychotherapy according to Lawyer

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A psychotherapist being sued for $10 million for allegedly causing a Katy woman to believe she had helped kill more than 100 babies practiced in the "lunatic fringe of psychotherapy," the woman's attorney told jurors Tuesday. Attorney John Osborne said in his

Re: LI DP for 11 year olds

1998-04-22 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Vi, And then what do you do when you do all of this and the child looks at you and tells you to Fu** off, and walks out the door to do what they please. That is what happens now days. You can tell them their not allowed to do the privileges anymore but