Re: [LEAPSECS] fb/meta join the leap second haters

2022-07-26 Thread Steve Allen
On Tue 2022-07-26T20:42:03-0400 Brooks Harris hath writ: > Can anyone elaborate on what these 'decadal variations' may be? What they are is power in the spectrum of LOD at periods of decades that has been visible in the relatively good data from the past two centuries and which contributed to the

Re: [LEAPSECS] fb/meta join the leap second haters

2022-07-26 Thread Steve Allen
On Tue 2022-07-26T23:33:15+ Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: > So looking at the IERS LOD plot going all the way back it seems to > me that we have been missing the big signal for about five decades: > > > https://datacenter.iers.org/singlePlot.php?plotname=EOPC04_14_62-NOW_IAU2000A-LOD=224

Re: [LEAPSECS] fb/meta join the leap second haters

2022-07-26 Thread Warner Losh
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 5:33 PM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > So looking at the IERS LOD plot going all the way back it seems to > me that we have been missing the big signal for about five decades: > > > https://datacenter.iers.org/singlePlot.php?plotname=EOPC04_14_62-NOW_IAU2000A-LOD=224 > > How

Re: [LEAPSECS] fb/meta join the leap second haters

2022-07-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
If you go back I'm sure you'll see it mentioned in the LEAPSECS archive. When you play with 1962+ data there's a clear ~20 year cycle [1] and, more importantly, LOD ends up a bit lower each cycle. So the general pattern looks like 20 year arcs back-to-back on top of a gradual trend of ELOD

Re: [LEAPSECS] fb/meta join the leap second haters

2022-07-26 Thread Brooks Harris
On 2022-07-26 7:33 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: So looking at the IERS LOD plot going all the way back it seems to me that we have been missing the big signal for about five decades: https://datacenter.iers.org/singlePlot.php?plotname=EOPC04_14_62-NOW_IAU2000A-LOD=224 How did we not

Re: [LEAPSECS] fb/meta join the leap second haters

2022-07-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
So looking at the IERS LOD plot going all the way back it seems to me that we have been missing the big signal for about five decades: https://datacenter.iers.org/singlePlot.php?plotname=EOPC04_14_62-NOW_IAU2000A-LOD=224 How did we not notice that earlier ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp

Re: [LEAPSECS] fb/meta join the leap second haters

2022-07-26 Thread Michael Deckers via LEAPSECS
   On 2022-07-26 05:08, Steve Allen wrote: The CNET article includes a quote from correspondence which repeats a trick that has been performed since the 1960s, that being to produce a significant underestimate of the difference between solar and atomic time by saying that the absence of leap