RE: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
I like the idea of using privacy brackets [[]] in the name field but upon looking in the help file it would seem that this option is only supported in the notes. Is this true? Can [[]] be used in the name fields? Roger -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Shiell-Stokes Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 3:02 p.m. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames ...or you could also put identifying information within privacy brackets[[]].This is VERY handy in preventing the accidental merging of the 35,000 unknowns in your database. . By putting(for example)[[wife of Joe Blow]] into your database as a first or last name for an unknown female, the information is available to you but can be easily excluded in any reports. Kathy At 01:53 PM 11/11/2009, you wrote: It depends If you have a unknown child of a known couple the program will default the last name in and then you can just leave the first name blank If you have an unknown spouse but known children, when you add the children the spouse will automatically default to unknown If you know that someone was married but you don't know what their first or last name was you can add an AKA such as Mrs. David Smith and then leave her name blank If you only know the first name of a spouse just add the first name and leave the surname blank [David Smith married Gladys for example] If you have children but the parents are unknown you can add a father with the same last name and the spouse will default to unknown Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.60/2495 - Release Date: 11/10/09 19:56:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
The Descendant Narrative also has the option to insert underlines for missing names, dates and places. The Family Group Sheet has a variation on this. It will insert a small name, date, place for missing information. These are positioned in the top left of the box where the information should be inserted. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: Both Ancestor and Descendant BOOK Reports offer the option to automatically insert underlines for missing given and surnames as well as missing dates and places if desired. To my knowledge, this is the only type of report with this option. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Laura Johnson [mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames I use a different approach entirely because I like how it looks in the reports that I do for my clients and for myself. I use 10 underlines in a row for a name. In using this to send reports to family members, I find they fill in the blanks easier and faster than seeing 'Unknown in the wording. for example last name unknown - Sarah __ first name unknown - __ Smith both names unknown - __ __ Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. In a previous program, I would put two slashes (//) in the surname field, but when I do this in Legacy it warns me about adding symbols. What is advised: leave the field blank, use unknown? Any suggestions? Jennifer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com
RE: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
Jennifer, I just leave the field blank. This doesn't cause any problems on screen or in reports, and in the normal Name List, all the people without surnames show at the top of the list. Boyd -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Dorner Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 6:07 a.m. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. In a previous program, I would put two slashes (//) in the surname field, but when I do this in Legacy it warns me about adding symbols. What is advised: leave the field blank, use unknown? Any suggestions? Jennifer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. In a previous program, I would put two slashes (//) in the surname field, but when I do this in Legacy it warns me about adding symbols. What is advised: leave the field blank, use unknown? Any suggestions? Jennifer Depending on the circumstances, there are many suggestions in answer to this question, and I would suggest that you read the archives (URL at the end of every email). Personally, I prefer to leave them blank, but in the end the choice is yours. BTW. putting symbols into any field can be problematical should one wish to create web pages at some stage in the future - a generalisation, but worth avoiding them. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
It depends If you have a unknown child of a known couple the program will default the last name in and then you can just leave the first name blank If you have an unknown spouse but known children, when you add the children the spouse will automatically default to unknown If you know that someone was married but you don't know what their first or last name was you can add an AKA such as Mrs. David Smith and then leave her name blank If you only know the first name of a spouse just add the first name and leave the surname blank [David Smith married Gladys for example] If you have children but the parents are unknown you can add a father with the same last name and the spouse will default to unknown michele - Original Message - From: Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. In a previous program, I would put two slashes (//) in the surname field, but when I do this in Legacy it warns me about adding symbols. What is advised: leave the field blank, use unknown? Any suggestions? Jennifer Depending on the circumstances, there are many suggestions in answer to this question, and I would suggest that you read the archives (URL at the end of every email). Personally, I prefer to leave them blank, but in the end the choice is yours. BTW. putting symbols into any field can be problematical should one wish to create web pages at some stage in the future - a generalisation, but worth avoiding them. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.60/2496 - Release Date: 11/11/09 02:40:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
I use a different approach entirely because I like how it looks in the reports that I do for my clients and for myself. I use 10 underlines in a row for a name. In using this to send reports to family members, I find they fill in the blanks easier and faster than seeing 'Unknown in the wording. for example last name unknown - Sarah __ first name unknown - __ Smith both names unknown - __ __ Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. In a previous program, I would put two slashes (//) in the surname field, but when I do this in Legacy it warns me about adding symbols. What is advised: leave the field blank, use unknown? Any suggestions? Jennifer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
Laura, You make a very valid point for the purposes of your reports, which in this case are designed to elicit a response from the recipients. It also illustrates that the treatment of unknowns depends on the personal choice and end use, as I would not wish for underscores except for the purpose which you describe. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Laura Johnson wrote: I use a different approach entirely because I like how it looks in the reports that I do for my clients and for myself. I use 10 underlines in a row for a name. In using this to send reports to family members, I find they fill in the blanks easier and faster than seeing 'Unknown in the wording. for example last name unknown - Sarah __ first name unknown - __ Smith both names unknown - __ __ Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. In a previous program, I would put two slashes (//) in the surname field, but when I do this in Legacy it warns me about adding symbols. What is advised: leave the field blank, use unknown? Any suggestions? Jennifer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
Both Ancestor and Descendant BOOK Reports offer the option to automatically insert underlines for missing given and surnames as well as missing dates and places if desired. To my knowledge, this is the only type of report with this option. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Laura Johnson [mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames I use a different approach entirely because I like how it looks in the reports that I do for my clients and for myself. I use 10 underlines in a row for a name. In using this to send reports to family members, I find they fill in the blanks easier and faster than seeing 'Unknown in the wording. for example last name unknown - Sarah __ first name unknown - __ Smith both names unknown - __ __ Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. In a previous program, I would put two slashes (//) in the surname field, but when I do this in Legacy it warns me about adding symbols. What is advised: leave the field blank, use unknown? Any suggestions? Jennifer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown surnames
...or you could also put identifying information within privacy brackets[[]].This is VERY handy in preventing the accidental merging of the 35,000 unknowns in your database. . By putting(for example)[[wife of Joe Blow]] into your database as a first or last name for an unknown female, the information is available to you but can be easily excluded in any reports. Kathy At 01:53 PM 11/11/2009, you wrote: It depends If you have a unknown child of a known couple the program will default the last name in and then you can just leave the first name blank If you have an unknown spouse but known children, when you add the children the spouse will automatically default to unknown If you know that someone was married but you don't know what their first or last name was you can add an AKA such as Mrs. David Smith and then leave her name blank If you only know the first name of a spouse just add the first name and leave the surname blank [David Smith married Gladys for example] If you have children but the parents are unknown you can add a father with the same last name and the spouse will default to unknown Jennifer Dorner wrote: I cannot find on the Legacy site how they recommend dealing with individuals whose surnames are unknown. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
