Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

Hi, On 26/04/24 16:36, Matt Wilkie wrote: Leo is plain text first, and achieves rich text and media by rendering. Trilium is rich text and media first, with the primary entry mechanism through the 3rd party CKEditor which saves as html. This is the foundational split behind the whole VR and

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

Hi, On 26/04/24 11:49, Thomas Passin wrote: I think that Edward does not appreciate how often users want to use Leo as an *Notebook* as opposed to a *writing* tool. For a notebook, one wants to include all kinds of material, text and graphics, and then *look at and read* it many times. For

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 1:43 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > It is possible to try out having VR/VR3 display in the same frame as the > body editor. You can get them both into the Log frame. ... > A screen shot illustrating this layout is attached. > Many thanks for all your comments. The design

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

Once you have got this layout set up, you can save it, which makes it simple to apply it to any outline after that. On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 2:43:34 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > It is possible to try out having VR/VR3 display in the same frame as the > body editor. You can get them

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

It is possible to try out having VR/VR3 display in the same frame as the body editor. You can get them both into the Log frame. It's not perfect because anytime there is a message to the log, the view changes away from the body or rendered view to the Log pane. Also you can't use the Find or

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 2:50:16 PM UTC-5 Edward K. Ream wrote: > I'm convinced. Replacing the body pane is a preference worth considering. See #3892 . The corresponding PR will make minimal changes to Leo's core and the VR and VR3

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

*>Trilium's weaknesses:>There is no minibuffer and no way to execute commands by name. * True, but not fundamentally blocked. In the Awesome Trilium list is a js plugin for adding a command-palette. I imagine it's modelled after vs-code's Ctrl-Shift-P

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 2:38 PM Thomas Passin wrote: The Easter Egg is the only way to expand the VR pane. An optional floating > VR window would solve that problem. > > > Here you go: > > ns = c.free_layout.get_top_splitter() > ns.open_window('_leo_viewrendered3') > Wow. Thanks for this. And

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 1:31:41 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: The Easter Egg is the only way to expand the VR pane. An optional floating VR window would solve that problem. Here you go: ns = c.free_layout.get_top_splitter() ns.open_window('_leo_viewrendered3') -- You received this

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

I'm with you here. Between VR3 and Freewin, I've tried floating windows, new frames, and rendering into a tab in the log frame. Freewin has a switchable display (edit <-> render) and I find that convenient and easy to work with, even without a way to set the default to *render*. Having the

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

Why would a floating window solve any problems here? How are you envisioning that a floating VR3 window, *which can already be done* *today without any additional coding*, would help the situation? As a counterpoint, I only have a single display available to me. I generally do my work (in Leo)

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 11:49 AM Thomas Passin wrote: >> Trilium undervalues the power of text: > I think that Edward does not appreciate how often users want to use Leo as a Notebook... I agree. Leonistas *should *be able to use lots of graphics :-) That's why improving the VR plugins and

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 1:13:38 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 8:02 AM Thomas Passin wrote: >> As an option, the VR pane could become a floating window. > This is already possible, at least with VR3. With VR3 enabled, right click on the boundary between two

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 8:02 AM Thomas Passin wrote: >> As an option, the VR pane could become a floating window. > This is already possible, at least with VR3. With VR3 enabled, right click on the boundary between two frames to get the splitter menu. Select *Window* then *VR3*. VR3 opens in

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 7:45:11 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: This Engineering Notebook post contains second thoughts about Trilium Notes. *Trilium's weaknesses* Trilium undervalues the power of text: I think that Edward does not appreciate how often users want to use Leo as an

Re: ENB: Seconds thoughts about Trilium Notes

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 7:45:11 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: This Engineering Notebook post contains second thoughts about Trilium Notes. *tl;dr:* Leo might add only *incremental *improvements inspired by Trilium Notes. All fundamental aspects of Leo will remain as they are.