On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 at 18:37:00 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
The overall more convex shape of women lends
itself better for smooth
light gradients lending plasticity to a two-dimensional rendition. When
aiming for a more
abstract rather than an anatomical impression of
beauty, the
Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch writes:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 at 18:37:00 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Anyway, I did once beat a dead horse for a while (I tried getting it
to stand up again, as the first thought after it had collapsed with a
sudden aorta rupture on the riding
lol
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.cawrote:
I don't drink beer.
- Graham
:)
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:40:52AM -0400, Mike Blackstock wrote:
ok,ok, ok - I'll remove the model, you guys win. sigh.
It's not a real Debian ad? What a shame,
At the risk of 'beating a dead horse' that has nothing to do with Lilypond,
but you put some thought into remarks below and so here's a reply and then
can me move on to any feed-back about the online compiler, file-manager and
so on? Scantily-clad model on page matter is closed, it was
On Thursday 12 July 2012 David Kastrup wrote:
The Debian ad goes to a bit more effort than depicting an arbitrary
snapshot of a woman in a swimsuit. And I still don't see them pulling
this off convincingly either.
I can imagine,
speaking for myself but not for St Thomas Aquinas, that many
Josiah Boothby josi...@gmail.com writes:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
I agree. It reminds me of sleazy 1990s CD-roms selling shareware
sofware.
Good thing Lilypond is good enough on its own grounds that I can
suggest it to people without sending them to gatekeepers who
Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch writes:
On Thursday 12 July 2012 David Kastrup wrote:
The Debian ad goes to a bit more effort than depicting an arbitrary
snapshot of a woman in a swimsuit. And I still don't see them pulling
this off convincingly either.
I can imagine,
speaking for
On 12/07/12 18:59, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch writes:
On Thursday 12 July 2012 David Kastrup wrote:
The Debian ad goes to a bit more effort than depicting an arbitrary
snapshot of a woman in a swimsuit. And I still don't see them pulling
this off
On 11/07/12 22:09, @tiredpixel wrote:
On 11/07/12 15:38, Mike Blackstock wrote:
I have a Lilypond 'Cloud' web service to announce shortly as well, if anyone
wants to have a look.
It's at http://cloud.blackstockweb.ca - email login 'guest' password 'guest'
It's functional enough for people to
At Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:23:43 -0400,
lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote:
From: Mike Blackstock
Subject: Re: tunefl and other web services
Interesting - 'aiming for a depiction of beauty or a pretty woman' -
they're mutually exclusive? I was aiming for a depiction of beauty, and
chose
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:
At Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:23:43 -0400,
lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote:
From: Mike Blackstock
Subject: Re: tunefl and other web services
Interesting - 'aiming for a depiction of beauty or a pretty woman' -
they're mutually exclusive? I was aiming
I don't drink beer.
- Graham
:)
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:40:52AM -0400, Mike Blackstock wrote:
* ok,ok, ok - I'll remove the model, you guys win. sigh.
*
* ** It's not a real Debian ad? What a shame, it should be.
*
* ** I'm going for a beer - let's agree on that at least ?
*
* ** ;)
I have a Lilypond 'Cloud' web service to announce shortly as well, if
anyone wants to have a look.
It's at http://cloud.blackstockweb.ca - email login 'guest' password 'guest'
It's functional enough for people to be able to upload their Lilypond
projects and be able to work on them and show them
On Jul 11, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Mike Blackstock wrote:
Nothing wrong in using beauty to promote beautiful engraving, I say :)
First off, great job with what I played around with — a “Google Docs for
Lilypond” is certainly nice to have. Compiling felt as fast or faster than
compiling locally, in
Colin Jesse Kinlund colinkinl...@gmail.com writes:
On Jul 11, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Mike Blackstock wrote:
Nothing wrong in using beauty to promote beautiful engraving, I
say :)
First off, great job with what I played around with — a “Google Docs
for Lilypond” is certainly nice to
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:26 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
The sample page for the Brandenburg concerto is good for about a dozen
issue reports in the category Ugly concerning triplet number
placements. For a project selling itself as focused on beautiful
engraving, we sure have a
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 07:40:58PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote:
and you can see a nice old/new comparison here:
http://news.lilynet.net/IMG/gif/clef_comparison.gif).
-snip-
PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the /priests/
using Lily might have a problem with that :)
I
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the /priests/
using Lily might have a problem with that :)
She is about as relevant to music typesetting as a spotted flycatcher.
Probably less so, since the latter is at least unmistakenly
- Original Message -
From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: tunefl and other web services
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the
/priests/ using Lily might have a problem with that :)
I'm not a priest. However, I still don't like the picture. I don't
mean that I disapprove, I mean that I don't think it looks
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:03:45PM -0700, David Rogers wrote:
I'm not a priest. However, I still don't like the picture.
I agree. It reminds me of sleazy 1990s CD-roms selling shareware
sofware.
I don't think that's the best possible impression Lilypond can
give.
Fortunately, that website
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
She is about as relevant to music typesetting as a spotted flycatcher.
Probably less so, since the latter is at least unmistakenly a songbird.
Here's a low res photo of one sitting on my weather station. Their
song's not great, tho...
I agree that
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:03:45 -0700
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the
/priests/ using Lily might have a problem with that :)
I'm not a priest. However, I still
Thanks @tiredpixel.
Yes, I've been in situations where it's been good to have projects online,
like a 'Google Docs' kind of thing. It's happened a couple of times that
people have asked me 'What Lilypond?' and I've been able to demo
compilation and so on right there, from a public computer. You
Left-hand clefs - just temporary expedience, I grabbed them from somewhere.
Will eliminate them or replace with Lilypond clefs.
Brandenberg - again, expedience. Grabbed from mutopia. Will replace
examples with the ones from the manual.
Cheers, and thanks!
M
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:40 PM,
Samantha sings too.
Seriously though, the idea was to have the model be a personification of
Aquinas' definition, and tie in 'beauty' of that sort with the beauty of
Lilypond. I think it works, but I removed her on subsequent pages, which
was overdoing it.
M.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:24 PM,
I disagree that the name suggests an affiliation, but no matter, I'm in the
process of dropping 'Lilypond' from the name. 'Music Engraving IDE' works.
M.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.cawrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:03:45PM -0700, David Rogers
I agree. As I pointed out, the model was meant to personify Aquinas'
definition of 'beauty' and tie that in with the beauty of Lilypond. We
disagree on what 'sleaze' is. Not how 'gatekeeper' comes into play and as
for marketing - well, this is free, and I'm defering to the judgment of the
Debian
Thank you all for your comments I'm gonna:
1) replace left-hand clefs with Lilypond clefs ( or just remove them );
2) remove examples and find better one (or just remove examples period)
3) Remove Lilypond from the name.
Cheers, and thanks again,
Mike
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Mike
Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com writes:
Samantha sings too.
Seriously though, the idea was to have the model be a personification
of Aquinas' definition, and tie in 'beauty' of that sort with the
beauty of Lilypond. I think it works,
Nope. To pull this off even remotely, you
Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com writes:
I agree. As I pointed out, the model was meant to personify Aquinas'
definition of 'beauty' and tie that in with the beauty of Lilypond. We
disagree on what 'sleaze' is. Not how 'gatekeeper' comes into play and
as for marketing - well, this is
I seem to be relishing in your bluntness - cute - so let me return the
favor. The women is a top Toronto model with her own agency; I'll take her
tastes over yours, thanks. What your taste in women is - and who knows
what*that* is, I shudder to contemplate it - doesn't concern me; ditto
with
all in fun ;) No offence intended, none taken. ;)
M.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com
wrote:
I seem to be relishing in your bluntness - cute - so let me return the
favor. The women is a top Toronto model with her own agency; I'll take her
tastes
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:57:02AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com writes:
I agree. As I pointed out, the model was meant to personify Aquinas'
definition of 'beauty' and tie that in with the beauty of Lilypond. We
disagree on what 'sleaze' is. Not
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On 07/12/2012 12:04 AM, Mike Blackstock wrote:
I seem to be relishing in your bluntness - cute - so let me return
the favor. The women is a top Toronto model with her own agency;
I'll take her tastes over yours, thanks. What your taste in women
ok,ok, ok - I'll remove the model, you guys win. sigh.
It's not a real Debian ad? What a shame, it should be.
I'm going for a beer - let's agree on that at least ?
;)
-Mike
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.cawrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:57:02AM
I don't drink beer.
- Graham
:)
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:40:52AM -0400, Mike Blackstock wrote:
ok,ok, ok - I'll remove the model, you guys win. sigh.
It's not a real Debian ad? What a shame, it should be.
I'm going for a beer - let's agree on that at least ?
;)
Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com writes:
I seem to be relishing in your bluntness - cute - so let me return the
favor. The women is a top Toronto model with her own agency; I'll take
her tastes over yours, thanks. What your taste in women is - and who
knows what*that* is, I shudder
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:57:02AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com writes:
I agree. As I pointed out, the model was meant to personify Aquinas'
definition of 'beauty' and tie that in with the beauty of
On 07/07/12 06:10, David Kastrup wrote:
This is not a question of reinterpretation or optional.
When I referred to being able to interpret a GPLv2 or later work as GPLv3,
it's not _my_ interpretation -- it's an explicit permission granted by the
wording of the license grant.
This
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
On 07/07/12 06:10, David Kastrup wrote:
This is not a question of reinterpretation or optional.
When I referred to being able to interpret a GPLv2 or later work as
GPLv3, it's not _my_ interpretation -- it's an explicit permission
On 07/07/12 19:44, David Kastrup wrote:
But you can't link GPLv2 or later code with both GPLv2-only and
GPLv3-code, and once you link with either, the choice is fixed.
Why is that relevant to LilyPond, which is already licensed under GPLv3 or
later?
On 05/07/12 22:03, David Kastrup wrote:
It also means bad compatibility with GPL. And a license change.
What's the bad compatibility you have in mind? AGPLv3 is compatible with any
code licensed GPLv2 or later. LilyPond is already on GPLv3 or later, which
has the same issues with
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
On 05/07/12 22:03, David Kastrup wrote:
It also means bad compatibility with GPL. And a license change.
What's the bad compatibility you have in mind? AGPLv3 is compatible
with any code licensed GPLv2 or later.
I don't see that
On 06/07/12 14:49, David Kastrup wrote:
I don't see that GPLv2 permits additional restrictions to be added to
the work as a whole. The requirement to make the source available to
anybody using a service supplied by the software is an additional
restriction.
GPLv2 or later means that you can
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
On 06/07/12 14:49, David Kastrup wrote:
I don't see that GPLv2 permits additional restrictions to be added to
the work as a whole. The requirement to make the source available to
anybody using a service supplied by the software is
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
Do we know about http://tunefl.com ?
Also, should we be mentioning commercial services like scorio.com
on our website?
Commercial services are
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 10:11:09AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU
coding standards are quite clear on this:
A GNU program should not
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 03:57:00PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy
to the use of any non-free program. Proprietary software is a
social and ethical problem, and our aim is to
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 03:57:00PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy
to the use of any non-free program. Proprietary software is a
Graham Percival wrote:
Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU
coding standards are quite clear on this:
A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy
to the use of any non-free program. Proprietary software is a
social and ethical problem, and
Tim Roberts t...@probo.com writes:
Graham Percival wrote:
Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU
coding standards are quite clear on this:
A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy
to the use of any non-free program. Proprietary software
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
The GNU Manifesto is also not a legal statement, but a philosophical
one. LilyPond is a GNU project and thus has subscribed to this
philosophy. I did not remember plans to change that, and it is not like
it has served us
Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
The GNU Manifesto is also not a legal statement, but a philosophical
one. LilyPond is a GNU project and thus has subscribed to this
philosophy. I did not remember plans to
Hi
Do we know about http://tunefl.com ?
Also, should we be mentioning commercial services like scorio.com
on our website?
Jan
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On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
Do we know about http://tunefl.com ?
Also, should we be mentioning commercial services like scorio.com
on our website?
Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU
coding standards are quite clear on
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