Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo

2008-09-29 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Mark, RU trying to say we are mostly long-winded? If so, can you please call my wife and tell her it isn't just me? Thanks, Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:55 PM To:

Re: Linux reiserfs mounting issue - system hangs

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Post
On 9/26/2008 at 2:27 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Elwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all that responded, You are so so smart. I increased the storage and I was amazed. The filesystem mounted. In 3270 it didn't tell you anything. It just sat there. If what I think was

Re: var subdirectory

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Post
On 9/27/2008 at 4:38 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gentry, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- If I'm supposed to issue init 1 at startup time, where do I do that? At startup time, I get a list of kernels and I can issue a #cp command to choose which kernel. If I have to do the init

Re: Perftk fun

2008-09-29 Thread David Boyes
Feels like 5.3 wants to SF, which I don't want to do (at least not yet). Web page says: Central Monitoring System Load Overview (VMPRODA) Which is different than what it says on the 5.2 systems, although the basic configuration is the same. Weird. I'm guessing this might be related

Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo

2008-09-29 Thread Douglas Wooster
And here I just thought we were enjoying a little silliness. :) Douglas Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 09/28/2008 04:55:28 PM: [image removed] Re: [LINUX-390] curiosity: pronouncing sudo Mark Post to: LINUX-390 09/28/2008 04:58 PM Sent by: Linux on 390 Port

Re: var subdirectory

2008-09-29 Thread Clovis Pereira
#cp vi vmsg 0 1 Hi, Remember that you have 15 seconds, by default, to enter this command. I'm not so fast, so I prefer to record my options on PF keys, like this model of PROFILE.EXEC: /*/ 'CLOSE RDR' 'CP PURGE RDR ALL' 'SWAPGEN B000 1000 (DIAG' 'SWAPGEN B001 500 (DIAG' CP SET PF1 #CP VI

Re: Where did ext2online go?

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Post
On 9/26/2008 at 3:56 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brad Hinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Yep, resize2fs is the replacement for ext2online, and it works with both offline and mounted ext2/ext3 file systems. Do the file systems have to have been created after a certain maintenance

Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
On RHEL5.2 -- we're using mii-tools and seeing that the ethernet interface is set to 100mbs -- the OSA is set to gigabit - and we're wondering if something special needs to be done to set it to gigabit speeds.. Using 'ethtool=' doesn't seem to work on Linux (s390x linux).. This is on a VSWITCH

Re: ELF ABI Supplements

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Post
On 9/26/2008 at 4:20 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harold Grovesteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.linux-foundation.org/spec/ELF/zSeries/lzsabi0_zSeries.html This link, taken from http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Core-S390X/LSB-Core-S390X/

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Post
On 9/29/2008 at 12:02 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On RHEL5.2 -- we're using mii-tools and seeing that the ethernet interface is set to 100mbs -- the OSA is set to gigabit - and we're wondering if something special needs to be done to set it to

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
Any ideas on how we can verify what the speed really is? Since they are seeing this number - there is now doubt in the air :-) Scott Rohling p.s. ethtool eth0 return 'No data available' On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/2008 at 12:02 PM, in

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Barton Robinson
Decent performance tools can be used to benchmark it. Create a benchmark from one linux server to the other and measure it. Scott Rohling wrote: Any ideas on how we can verify what the speed really is? Since they are seeing this number - there is now doubt in the air :-) Scott Rohling

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
Right -- that was step 2 -- I was hoping there was some Redhat command that could tell us (one that works on s390x distros) ... Thanks, Barton -- we'll see what we can find out thru our own measurements.. Scott Rohling On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Barton Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Bruce Hayden
You'd need to get onto the HMC and use OSA Advanced facilities, select to view port parameters, and it will show you the current settings. On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas on how we can verify what the speed really is? Since they are seeing

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
Thanks, Bruce -- we did that and confirmed it's set to gigabit.. but there seems to be concern from the Linux folks as mii-tools is reporting 100mbs and ethtool is not reporting anything... Scott Rohling On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Bruce Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd need to get

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Bruce Hayden
That's because, as Mark said, you're attached to a virtual device, and the speed doesn't have much meaning. Any data flowing Linux to Linux within the same vswitch could flow much faster than a gigabit, but data flowing out the physical port is limited by the connection on that port. The virtual

Unusual amount of overhead on large volume group

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
I'm confused about how much overhead seems to be involved in creating a volume group that approaches a terabyte with ECKD devices (A mix of some 3390-27 and mostly 3390-9): dxxxml01: ~ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/sysvg-root

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
Ok - gotcha ... I guess I'm not thinking 'virtual' today ;-) ... On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Bruce Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's because, as Mark said, you're attached to a virtual device, and the speed doesn't have much meaning. Any data flowing Linux to Linux within the

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
We actually opened an issue with IBM over this. Here's what I got back: Action Taken...: The ethtool utility is not supported with all device drivers as noted in the man page. It's very typical that for an gigabit NIC (especially a fiber connection) will not have a valid

Re: Unusual amount of overhead on large volume group

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Post
On 9/29/2008 at 12:49 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- We're going from 911G for the logical volume to 897G displayed in 'df' to only 870G being available in the filesystem.. That's 41G of 'overhead'. Am I just naive about how much space it

Re: Unusual amount of overhead on large volume group

2008-09-29 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
We have some very large LVM2 filesystems, and have only seen one issue. As you add PV's to a VG, the time it takes for the utilities (pvscan, pvs, etc.) to run increases exponentially with the number of volumes. This is because LVM2 puts metadata on every volume by default, and the utilities

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
Thanks! That's very helpful to show this customer... appreciate you passing that on! Scott Rohling On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Hall, Ken (GTS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We actually opened an issue with IBM over this. Here's what I got back: Action Taken...: The ethtool utility is

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Post
On 9/29/2008 at 12:39 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Bruce -- we did that and confirmed it's set to gigabit.. but there seems to be concern from the Linux folks as mii-tools is reporting 100mbs and ethtool is not reporting anything... I

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread David Boyes
Thanks, Bruce -- we did that and confirmed it's set to gigabit.. but there seems to be concern from the Linux folks as mii-tools is reporting 100mbs and ethtool is not reporting anything... I'd actually argue that ethtool is right -- there really isn't any valid number TO report. Reporting

Re: Unusual amount of overhead on large volume group

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
Thanks, Mark -- I forgot all about -m 0 when doing the mkfs.ext3 -- and using tune2fs -m0 got us back to 897G! Scott Rohling On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/2008 at 12:49 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: var subdirectory : epilog

2008-09-29 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Thanks to all who responded. I ended up using the #cp vi vmsg 0 1 method. Prior to deleting /var, I created the new disk space first. I updated the .conf file, ran mkinitrd and zipl. Rebooted linux. When it came up, the new dasd was available so I partitioned it and formatted it. I made a

Early draft of architecture and porting guide for OpenSolaris on Z available

2008-09-29 Thread David Boyes
An early draft of the architecture and porting guide for OpenSolaris for Z is available from distribution.sinenomine.net. It covers the release 95 build. This is a draft, so there will be a few changes yet, but comments and corrections are always welcome. File is at

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rohling
They're just trying to confirm what they have.. and using the Linux tools they normally use to do so. I've since explained that a virtual NIC isn't going to show them the physical characteristics of the 'real' NIC and have explained that we've verified the OSA is set to gigabit speed. I guess

Re: Gigabit interface on Linux?

2008-09-29 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
This is pretty much the same situation we had. The SA's are used to the tools they know, so when they don't behave as expected on z, they get nervous. I've had questions about grub, netdump, EMC Powerpath, and Veritas VxVM. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL

Tuning Oracle memory use (fwd)

2008-09-29 Thread Martha McConaghy
We have a bunch of Oracle databases running on SLES 10 in one of our z/9 partitions. We are only getting started with this, so we don't much (i.e. nothing) about tuning Oracle to be a polite guest in this environment and our DBA is just as new to it. He is getting advice from a vendor, but I

Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo

2008-09-29 Thread Erik N Johnson
I would tend to agree that IT professionals are given to silliness. After all, we have a penchant for giving cartoon mascots to software projects for no discernible reason other than our own amusement. Erik Johnson On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Wooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And

Re: Tuning Oracle memory use (fwd)

2008-09-29 Thread David Kreuter
no don't pump up virtual machine memory or CP paging to fix this long term. Short term do what you have to of course! But in my experience Oracle interestingly enough is one of the best behaved applications in a linux virtual machine. A lot of this depends on the size of the database in the

Re: Tuning Oracle memory use (fwd)

2008-09-29 Thread Tom Duerbusch
If you're just getting started, which means you don't have a lot of data, or much production I first scale back Oracle's memory. Under OEM: Administration: Memory Parmeters: Change SGA to 200 MB Change PGA to 16 MB Define your virtual storage for the Linux machine to 600 MB and reboot. Now

Re: Tuning Oracle memory use (fwd)

2008-09-29 Thread Fernanod Gieseler
Martha, Look at the swapinnes sysctl parameter. It reduces swap priority on Linux. http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 Good luck. Fernando Gieseler ___ Technical Sales Specialist for System z - Linux and z/VM - IBM Brasil fone: +55-51-2131-5848 cel:

Re: Where did ext2online go?

2008-09-29 Thread Brad Hinson
Mark Post wrote: On 9/26/2008 at 3:56 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brad Hinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Yep, resize2fs is the replacement for ext2online, and it works with both offline and mounted ext2/ext3 file systems. Do the file systems have to have been created after a