Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! Just wanted to note that I fully agree with everything Amos Shapira said on this message. Hear, hear! Regards, Shlomi Fish On Saturday 14 May 2005 03:33, Amos Shapira wrote: On 5/13/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: common as a server. So the crackers develop

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-14 Thread Uri Bruck
Shlomi Fish wrote: It's bread and circuses in English, AFAIR. Comes from Latin, if I know. Right and Right. http://www.bartleby.com/61/39/B0463950.html -- Thanks, Uri http://translation.israel.net = To unsubscribe, send mail to

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-14 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 10:33:42AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: On 5/13/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: common as a server. So the crackers develop means to break linux servers. If/When linux is very common on the desktop, you'll start seeing the same there. Same flawed FUD

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-14 Thread Amos Shapira
On 5/14/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 10:33:42AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: On 5/13/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: common as a server. So the crackers develop means to break linux servers. If/When linux is very common on the

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-14 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 09:10:59PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: On 5/14/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 10:33:42AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: On 5/13/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: common as a server. So the crackers develop means to

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-14 Thread Michael Vasiliev
On Friday May 13 2005 15:42, Shlomi Fish wrote: Actually, a default install of Fedora took several months to break into. As opposed to less than 20 minutes for Windows. Could you please provide the source for that claim? I remember an anecdotial honeypots research in recent years done

Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Ori Idan
I think this is an academic debate if GNU/Linux is more secured or not. For the simple people, let us look at the facts: 1. When was the last time any of this list members has seen a virus in his GNU/Linux desktop? (I guess the answer is never) 2. When was the last time you had a spyware in

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 10:18 +0300, Ori Idan wrote: I think this is an academic debate if GNU/Linux is more secured or not. For the simple people, let us look at the facts: 1. When was the last time any of this list members has seen a virus in his GNU/Linux desktop? (I guess the answer is

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 10:18:49AM +0300, Ori Idan wrote: I think this is an academic debate if GNU/Linux is more secured or not. For the simple people, let us look at the facts: 1. When was the last time any of this list members has seen a virus in his GNU/Linux desktop? (I guess the

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 13 May 2005 12:05, you wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 10:18:49AM +0300, Ori Idan wrote: I think this is an academic debate if GNU/Linux is more secured or not. For the simple people, let us look at the facts: 1. When was the last time any of this list members has seen a virus

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 12:05:45PM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 10:18:49AM +0300, Ori Idan wrote: I think this is an academic debate if GNU/Linux is more secured or not. For the simple people, let us look at the facts: 1. When was the last time any of this

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 02:20:26PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Friday 13 May 2005 12:05, Didi wrote: The reasons I don't prefer LISP are: [snip] We're here for windows vs. linux religous wars. Hackers-il is for languages religious wars. This thread is long enough as it is. Just to prove my

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 13 May 2005 15:01, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 02:20:26PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Friday 13 May 2005 12:05, Didi wrote: The reasons I don't prefer LISP are: [snip] We're here for windows vs. linux religous wars. Hackers-il is for languages religious wars.

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Amos Shapira
On 5/13/05, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is an academic debate if GNU/Linux is more secured or not. For the simple people, let us look at the facts: 1. When was the last time any of this list members has seen a virus in his GNU/Linux desktop? (I guess the answer is never)

Re: Is open source more secure? [was Re: Moving to Linux]

2005-05-13 Thread Amos Shapira
On 5/13/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: common as a server. So the crackers develop means to break linux servers. If/When linux is very common on the desktop, you'll start seeing the same there. Same flawed FUD used by the MS camp. Apache is the most common web server in the