Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread yuri
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote:
 I'm getting angry just reading your email.  I don't have any broadband
 options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton).

I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton.
Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people
to check signal at my property.

Roger, have you investigated this?

 My Telecom options are:
 wireless (starting at a mere $90 odd a month for something like dial-up
 speed) (I don't think so thank you!)

It gets worse - telecon's wireless broadband requires windows-only
drivers according to one of their reps. IIRC xtra is partly Redmond
owned.

 a second phone line installed for $400 (no way - when I was a few km
 down the road in Papanui the cost was $99).

There should be two pairs in the cable from your house to the street already.
Unless your house is very very old.
I entertained the thought of digging my own trench and putting in
grease-filled cat 5 (4 pairs). My electrician mate told me that phone
cables are in some kind of grease-filled sheath to protect from
moisture. I haven't costed the idea so it might be a pipedream.
 
 Best of luck to you Robert.  I've given up.
 Roger

Yuri hasn't given up.

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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread Roger Searle
yuri wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote:
 

I'm getting angry just reading your email.  I don't have any broadband
options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton).
   

I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton.
Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people
to check signal at my property.
Roger, have you investigated this?
 

I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options.  I 
was very interested in the info from the wireless web guy at the clug 
meeting late last year.  2 things stopped me from proceeding - the main 
one being that when I am in another part of the country (several times a 
year) I would have no internet access of my own.  With Paradise I can 
dial up anywhere (though have to use a different number in Wellywood).  
The second consideration being having to change email adddress. 

I'd be interested to hear how good your signal strength is though.
a second phone line installed for $400 (no way - when I was a few km
down the road in Papanui the cost was $99).
   

There should be two pairs in the cable from your house to the street already.
Unless your house is very very old.
 

It's only 20 years or so old, the wire is there.  My last place was 
about 70 years old.  The worst thing about the conversation with Telecom 
about a second line, after hearing excuses about the shortage of lines 
out this way and them needing to keep lines for future growth (clearly 
a reference to someone else, not me!), went something like this:

And the good news, Mr Searle, is that if you ever decide to disconnect 
your second line, then reconnect it again in the future, the cost will 
only be $50.  I really really really don't like Telecom...  And Robert, 
I know how you feel.

Cheers,
Roger



Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06:50 +1300
Roger Searle wrote:

 I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options.  I 
 was very interested in the info from the wireless web guy at the clug 
 meeting late last year.  2 things stopped me from proceeding - the main 
 one being that when I am in another part of the country (several times a 
 year) I would have no internet access of my own.  With Paradise I can 
 dial up anywhere (though have to use a different number in Wellywood).  
 The second consideration being having to change email adddress. 

why not see if you can maintain a paradise account on a pay per hour
basis, that way you keep your email address and have the use of dialup
when out of town. 

It seems paradise have a $20 for 20 hours plan. There may be other
variations if you ask them.


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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06, Roger Searle wrote:
 I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options.
Have you considered the ihug uhf radio option?
It's _*very*_ fast and is affordable for the ordinary person on a salary.
Speed in ~ 2Gbytes/hour, but the latency is awful.

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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:10:29 +1300
Christopher Sawtell wrote:

 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06, Roger Searle wrote:
  I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options.
 Have you considered the ihug uhf radio option?
 It's _*very*_ fast and is affordable for the ordinary person on a salary.
 Speed in ~ 2Gbytes/hour, but the latency is awful.
 

which service are you referring to? I assumed from the ihug site you
were referring to this:

http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/index.html

But coverage does not seem to extend anywhere out of the upper North
Island.

http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/coverage/index.html

Their only other broadband offerings appear to be bliink (adsl) and
ultra (satellite, requiring a telephone modem return link) Both of those appear 
to be out for Roger, adsl not available and the quality of the
return link a problem for ultra.

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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread goldedge
Hi Yuri / Roger,
   checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms 
from CHCH
I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure 
that their modems are Linux compatable
they do not state on their website ( of course) :-)
The rates seem reasonable, for an extra fee (roaming charges ) you can 
be mobile as well.

Regards
Michael
yuri wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote:
 

I'm getting angry just reading your email.  I don't have any broadband
options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton).
   

I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton.
Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people
to check signal at my property.
 

 

Best of luck to you Robert.  I've given up.
Roger
   

Yuri hasn't given up.
 


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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread sirlancelot
That's actually www.woosh.co.nz

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 Hi Yuri / Roger,
 checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms 
 from CHCH
 I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure 
 that their modems are Linux compatable
 they do not state on their website ( of course) :-)
 The rates seem reasonable, for an extra fee (roaming charges ) you can 
 be mobile as well.
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 yuri wrote:
 
 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote:
   
 
 I'm getting angry just reading your email.  I don't have any broadband
 options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton).
 
 
 
 I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton.
 Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people
 to check signal at my property.
 
   
 
   
 
 Best of luck to you Robert.  I've given up.
 Roger
 
 
 
 Yuri hasn't given up.
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:34, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:10:29 +1300

 Christopher Sawtell wrote:
  On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06, Roger Searle wrote:
   I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options.
 
  Have you considered the ihug uhf radio option?
  It's _*very*_ fast and is affordable for the ordinary person on a salary.
  Speed in ~ 2Gbytes/hour, but the latency is awful.

 which service are you referring to? I assumed from the ihug site you
 were referring to this:

 http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/index.html

 But coverage does not seem to extend anywhere out of the upper North
 Island.

 http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/coverage/index.html

 Their only other broadband offerings appear to be bliink (adsl) and
 ultra (satellite, requiring a telephone modem return link) Both of those
 appear to be out for Roger, adsl not available and the quality of the
 return link a problem for ultra.
I was thinking of ultra.
There are quite a few deeply rural schools that use it, 
and at least one list member. ( he might care to comment on it )

I dont think the outgoing return link has to be anything particularly hot.
An ordinary modem is fine. Perhaps one of those more superior ones if the 
local loop is tens of kilometres, but West Melton isn't _that_ deeply rural.

I wonder if those 2 fellows could share a connection with a radio link twixt 
the two of them.

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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:40:47 +1300
goldedge wrote:

 Hi Yuri / Roger,
 checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms 
 from CHCH
 I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure 
 that their modems are Linux compatable
 they do not state on their website ( of course) :-)

They are (or were at the time they rolled out in ChCh)

IIRC they have  pppoe interface, meaning there are at least two client
implementations in linux.

Search the archives and you should find my report after attending the
rollout party^h^h^h^h^h .

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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread yuri
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:40:47 +1300, goldedge wrote:
 checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms
 from CHCH
I just called them. They will be extending their coverage but not until April.

 I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure
 that their modems are Linux compatable
They rep I just spoke to put me on hold for about 15 seconds when I
asked about linux, then came back and said yes, you need something
called roaring penguin - he didn't seem to know much more but that's
enough for me. Roaring Penguin, I advised him, is the Linux PPPoE
driver (I believe there are others).
On the support FAQ, it says if you use PPPoE with the ethernet cable,
you need to have the modem pre-flashed with your username and
password.

 they do not state on their website ( of course) :-)
They don't mention Linux directly, but do mention PPPoE and Apple Mac.

Yuri
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Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)

2005-02-17 Thread Nick Rout
This has all been covered on the list previously (except for the bit I
have not snipped)

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:31:42 +1300
yuri wrote:

 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:40:47 +1300, goldedge wrote:

 I just called them. They will be extending their coverage but not until April.
 

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