Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote: I'm getting angry just reading your email. I don't have any broadband options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton). I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton. Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people to check signal at my property. Roger, have you investigated this? My Telecom options are: wireless (starting at a mere $90 odd a month for something like dial-up speed) (I don't think so thank you!) It gets worse - telecon's wireless broadband requires windows-only drivers according to one of their reps. IIRC xtra is partly Redmond owned. a second phone line installed for $400 (no way - when I was a few km down the road in Papanui the cost was $99). There should be two pairs in the cable from your house to the street already. Unless your house is very very old. I entertained the thought of digging my own trench and putting in grease-filled cat 5 (4 pairs). My electrician mate told me that phone cables are in some kind of grease-filled sheath to protect from moisture. I haven't costed the idea so it might be a pipedream. Best of luck to you Robert. I've given up. Roger Yuri hasn't given up. -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
yuri wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote: I'm getting angry just reading your email. I don't have any broadband options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton). I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton. Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people to check signal at my property. Roger, have you investigated this? I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options. I was very interested in the info from the wireless web guy at the clug meeting late last year. 2 things stopped me from proceeding - the main one being that when I am in another part of the country (several times a year) I would have no internet access of my own. With Paradise I can dial up anywhere (though have to use a different number in Wellywood). The second consideration being having to change email adddress. I'd be interested to hear how good your signal strength is though. a second phone line installed for $400 (no way - when I was a few km down the road in Papanui the cost was $99). There should be two pairs in the cable from your house to the street already. Unless your house is very very old. It's only 20 years or so old, the wire is there. My last place was about 70 years old. The worst thing about the conversation with Telecom about a second line, after hearing excuses about the shortage of lines out this way and them needing to keep lines for future growth (clearly a reference to someone else, not me!), went something like this: And the good news, Mr Searle, is that if you ever decide to disconnect your second line, then reconnect it again in the future, the cost will only be $50. I really really really don't like Telecom... And Robert, I know how you feel. Cheers, Roger
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06:50 +1300 Roger Searle wrote: I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options. I was very interested in the info from the wireless web guy at the clug meeting late last year. 2 things stopped me from proceeding - the main one being that when I am in another part of the country (several times a year) I would have no internet access of my own. With Paradise I can dial up anywhere (though have to use a different number in Wellywood). The second consideration being having to change email adddress. why not see if you can maintain a paradise account on a pay per hour basis, that way you keep your email address and have the use of dialup when out of town. It seems paradise have a $20 for 20 hours plan. There may be other variations if you ask them. -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06, Roger Searle wrote: I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options. Have you considered the ihug uhf radio option? It's _*very*_ fast and is affordable for the ordinary person on a salary. Speed in ~ 2Gbytes/hour, but the latency is awful. -- C. S.
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:10:29 +1300 Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06, Roger Searle wrote: I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options. Have you considered the ihug uhf radio option? It's _*very*_ fast and is affordable for the ordinary person on a salary. Speed in ~ 2Gbytes/hour, but the latency is awful. which service are you referring to? I assumed from the ihug site you were referring to this: http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/index.html But coverage does not seem to extend anywhere out of the upper North Island. http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/coverage/index.html Their only other broadband offerings appear to be bliink (adsl) and ultra (satellite, requiring a telephone modem return link) Both of those appear to be out for Roger, adsl not available and the quality of the return link a problem for ultra. -- C. S. -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
Hi Yuri / Roger, checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms from CHCH I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure that their modems are Linux compatable they do not state on their website ( of course) :-) The rates seem reasonable, for an extra fee (roaming charges ) you can be mobile as well. Regards Michael yuri wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote: I'm getting angry just reading your email. I don't have any broadband options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton). I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton. Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people to check signal at my property. Best of luck to you Robert. I've given up. Roger Yuri hasn't given up. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
That's actually www.woosh.co.nz Lance - Original Message - From: goldedge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays) Hi Yuri / Roger, checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms from CHCH I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure that their modems are Linux compatable they do not state on their website ( of course) :-) The rates seem reasonable, for an extra fee (roaming charges ) you can be mobile as well. Regards Michael yuri wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote: I'm getting angry just reading your email. I don't have any broadband options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton). I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton. Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people to check signal at my property. Best of luck to you Robert. I've given up. Roger Yuri hasn't given up. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:34, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:10:29 +1300 Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:06, Roger Searle wrote: I ought to have said affordable and practical broadband options. Have you considered the ihug uhf radio option? It's _*very*_ fast and is affordable for the ordinary person on a salary. Speed in ~ 2Gbytes/hour, but the latency is awful. which service are you referring to? I assumed from the ihug site you were referring to this: http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/index.html But coverage does not seem to extend anywhere out of the upper North Island. http://www.ihug.co.nz/connect/coverage/index.html Their only other broadband offerings appear to be bliink (adsl) and ultra (satellite, requiring a telephone modem return link) Both of those appear to be out for Roger, adsl not available and the quality of the return link a problem for ultra. I was thinking of ultra. There are quite a few deeply rural schools that use it, and at least one list member. ( he might care to comment on it ) I dont think the outgoing return link has to be anything particularly hot. An ordinary modem is fine. Perhaps one of those more superior ones if the local loop is tens of kilometres, but West Melton isn't _that_ deeply rural. I wonder if those 2 fellows could share a connection with a radio link twixt the two of them. -- C. S.
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:40:47 +1300 goldedge wrote: Hi Yuri / Roger, checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms from CHCH I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure that their modems are Linux compatable they do not state on their website ( of course) :-) They are (or were at the time they rolled out in ChCh) IIRC they have pppoe interface, meaning there are at least two client implementations in linux. Search the archives and you should find my report after attending the rollout party^h^h^h^h^h . -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:40:47 +1300, goldedge wrote: checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms from CHCH I just called them. They will be extending their coverage but not until April. I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure that their modems are Linux compatable They rep I just spoke to put me on hold for about 15 seconds when I asked about linux, then came back and said yes, you need something called roaring penguin - he didn't seem to know much more but that's enough for me. Roaring Penguin, I advised him, is the Linux PPPoE driver (I believe there are others). On the support FAQ, it says if you use PPPoE with the ethernet cable, you need to have the modem pre-flashed with your username and password. they do not state on their website ( of course) :-) They don't mention Linux directly, but do mention PPPoE and Apple Mac. Yuri -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
This has all been covered on the list previously (except for the bit I have not snipped) On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:31:42 +1300 yuri wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:40:47 +1300, goldedge wrote: I just called them. They will be extending their coverage but not until April. -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]