[OzSilverlight] cool app

2008-10-16 Thread ross jempson
Hopefully this isn't a double post. I sent the following earlier but it didn't seem to turn up. I thought you guys might be interested in a Silverlight app that is hosting live coverage of the current world chess championships. You can choose which cameras you want, follow the current position,

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Ola Karlsson
I'm in the same boat as Stephen, in the sense that I've not looked at Flex so can't really comment on the fine details of the technical features, but as far as I've heard, the they sound quite similar to Silverlight 2. However, the way I see it, one of the big things that will differentiate

Re: [OzSilverlight] cool app

2008-10-16 Thread Stephen Price
It was worth sending twice. :) Nice looking app. I'm not imagining they will make millions (I could be wrong) but imagine this targetted at a sport. thanks for sharing the link! On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM, ross jempson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully this isn't a double post. I sent

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Muhammad Niaz
Hi Stephen, I agree with your comments related to .NET expertise. But even though I do't know about Flex but I want to say that lot of XAML markup is generated when we are building out styles in App.xaml, and even Designing is also tough for developer point of view L Thanks

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Jordan Knight
Lucky Silverlight has so many great tools to crank out XAML for you :) At the end of the day is there really any more work in style creation than with something like CSS? At the end of the day you aren't being forced to trawl though pages of XAML if you don't so desire :) From: [EMAIL

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Damian Edwards
Actually there's probably less work because XAML is a controlled and strict environment the tooling is much better and can be trusted more. Using the designer and palettes in Expression Web or VS2008 to build your CSS styles is not WYSIWYG and for experienced CSS coders is actually, usually,

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Jordan Knight
Just on the success of SL in the RIA space... The hard sell is going to be to the designers... they are in many ways married to Adobe PS, but this doesn't they have to stay married to Flash/Flex. They key is, they don't have to stop using PS to do their designs - showing them how easy it is to

Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Barry Beattie
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Damian Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually there's probably less work because XAML is a controlled and strict environment the tooling is much better and can be trusted more. Using the designer and palettes in Expression Web or VS2008 to build your CSS

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Jordan Knight
the client runtime availability (the SL player Vs the Flash Player) and therefore the potential reach of the application (so what's wrong with SL being the perfect choice for inhouse apps with a fixed Windows-based SOE?) end-users already install flash readily - do you think that most

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Jordan Knight
- numbers of developers (no point coming up with cool tools/technology if no one uses it) - resources to help those developers (getting started / moving forward) As I said before, iI think c# developers are the easy sell... I think more focus needs to be placed on designers to get this puppy

Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Barry Beattie
showing them how easy it is to go from PS / IL to Expression Design/Blend is the goal. how? I'd put money on there being more C# developers out there than Action Script developers ahhh... but that's the mistake. You're saying developers can't transfer their skills from one language to

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Jordan Knight
You're saying developers can't transfer their skills from one language to another I'm not saying they can't... I'm suggesting they don't want to transfer from C# to anything else, .NET is addictive. Like many developers I only work where I want to. Now I can work in my favourite language on

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Barnes
Barry: - RE: How? - There are plug-in's available online that will allow you to export from Illustrator to XAML. Given FXG is on the horizon, I'd expect to see more to XAML as well. - RE: Transfer. People generally don't want to change habits, unless they are either bored or curious..

RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?

2008-10-16 Thread Muhammad Niaz
Hi Jordan, Best of luck about your group, for SL. We are with you. J Thanks Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd. +92 321 569 4195 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:16 AM