I suppose most of us are aware of the Seicento edition of Francesco's
Gesammelte Lautenwerke. The content is a Ness copy, Ness order even, in
french tab only. It's cheap (ring bound) and available.
David
David van Ooijen
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www.davidvanooijen.nl
I agree with you completely, Rob - Malcolm is really a n excellent
luthier. The diatonic cittern he made for me is going from strength to
strength - really coming alive after a year of playing.
Doc Rossi
On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote:
I brought this home on Tuesday from
Dear Gernot,
The composer who has caused me the most concern over fingering is Fuenllana.
There are many instances where he could have made life easier for everyone.
I don't know if being blind was an issue here. I doubt it. What occurred to
me is that some odd fingerings could have resulted from
Dear Gernot:
I think we all wrestle with fingering questions such as the one you point out.
Another is in Francesco's 'La Compagna' where we must dash up and down the
fingerboard on the chanterelle, while it would be much easier to use a higher
position on a lower course.
I think the
Looks smashing, Rob!
Use it very well indeed.
Best,
Benjamin
On 27/03/2008, Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I brought this home on Tuesday from Malcolm Prior's workshop - a stunning
theorbo in A, 85cms string length.
I've uploaded a photographic history of its construction, and an
Rob:
Tht's news to me. I have always read that the instruments referred to as
mandoras, (including the instrument that you call the mandore) are what you
call the small treble'like lute . The Royal Ontario Museum has the small
treble lute listed as a mandora. So does the Broadside
The german mandora is a development of the late baroque period and it's home
was northern italy, austria, bohemia and the southern parts of germany.
Known composers are Brescianello, Schiffelhotz and others.
You'll get an image when watching David van Edwards site:
Rob:
Well, I don't know Donald Gill. It seems to me that it's a similar
discussion to What is a cittern? augghhh...
For me, it is sufficient to say that the Renaissance instrument was called
mandora, mandore, mandour, etc and that a German lute like instrument of lower
pitch arose
So this instrument really is a Lute.
Brad
Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The german mandora is a development of the late baroque period and it's home
was northern italy, austria, bohemia and the southern parts of germany.
Known composers are Brescianello, Schiffelhotz and
Hi Brad,
If you can find your way around in French have a look at this web page :
http://le.luth.free.fr/mandore/index.html
I put it up a few weeks ago because I have developped a great interest in the
French mandore (17tn century) and I am expecting my first instrument in the
next few days
David
The Seicento edition seems to come in 6 volumes, but at about 25 Euro
the volume does not seem all that cheap (Unless you only have a
specific set of Fantasies that you want) compared to what Luca paid
for the Ness on ebay.
At US $102.50 (considering the rate of the Euro
Is that too early for a lute-guitar?
Brad
Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And may also account for Wagner's 'lute' in Die Meistersinger. The opening
notes are a rising arpeggio of EADGBE - a mandora in E?
Rob
On 27/03/2008, Frank Nordberg wrote:
Martyn Hodgson wrote:
The
I've started an database of online facsimile sources of lute and closely
related books, drawing heavily on links posted to this list and the French
list over the last few months.
http://creator.zoho.com/peterskeeter/
Actually there are two databases:
1) Online sources of lute and early
Dear all,
Here's a copy of the mail I sent to Harvard University Press a couple of days
ago, and their reply today.
Maybe, if dozens of lute players worldwide contact them with a similar request,
it might have some weight in their decision to reprint the da Milano book, or
not... ?
All the
Dear gut users
I have just had a top string go after 13 weeks (from just before
Christmas) on my 60 cm 440Hz lute. It lasted a little more than 3
months (it broke today).
This was a Kathedrale by Nick Baldock. The string did not fray, it
just seemed a little thin this morning, otherwise it
That's great news Peter!
Perhaps you could include dissertations as well?
The Spanish National Library has also recently digitized some stuff.
Best
G.
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From: Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:41
Yeah, I added it to Peter's site, but the ridiculously long URL shows. Don't
know what I did wrong, and you cannot correct it after posting. Beware that
the Sanz has some pages missing. I wrote to them about it but received no
answer. But out of the 20 works, at least Bermudo, Ortiz, Sanz,
I bought a copy some years ago and i paid less than 100€ for it in a
antiquarian book seller in berlin. There was a surprize in the book (i
didn´t know it before):
Look at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2345788335/
Greetings
Wolfgang, a proud owner!
To get on or off this list
Thanks both, for this tip about the BNE. I've edited your entry on the DB
('URL' is for the ridiculously long URL, which will then be hidden, 'Link
name' is for a more user-friendly text link). I'm adding the books now
P
On 27/03/2008, G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, I added it
Wolgang
I just found this, in the records of Biblioth=E8que nationale de
France. Charte documentaire des acquisitions.
www.bnf.fr/pages/infopro/collectionspro/pdf/Charte_coll.pdf
These are manuscripts received in stead of death duties, the Countess
must have had quite a collection of
Wolgang
I just found this, in the records of Biblioth=E8que nationale de
France. Charte documentaire des acquisitions.
These are manuscripts received in stead of death duties, the Countess
must have had quite a collection of manuscripts:
Les dations ont enrichi considerablement les
I'm to play the Heinichen concerto in D for flute, oboe, violins, cello,
theorbo and bc (Seibel 226) next month. Anybody ever did this before and
remember what instrument he/she used? It says tiorba in the autograph. The
range is A1 till a'. C and C# are both needed, as are E and E-flat, F and
Anthony,
I remember there was an exhibition of the Chambure collection at the
Bibliothèque Nationale (not yet de France at the time) in 1980. I still have
the complete catalogue of this extraordinary collection of music - printed and
manuscripts - and instruments. A real treasure indeed, more
I'm to play the Heinichen concerto in D for flute, oboe, violins, cello,
theorbo and bc (Seibel 226) next month. Anybody ever did this before and
remember what instrument he/she used? It says tiorba in the autograph. The
range is A1 till a'. C and C# are both needed, as are E and E-flat, F
there's also a recording with
musica antiqua Köln, featuring Michael Ducker on an
instrument which sounds like a d-minor lute.
can be found on itunes, Heinichen Dresden Concerti.
/
Magnus
--- Are Vidar Boye Hansen
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I'm to play the Heinichen concerto in D for flute,
Jean-Marie
I am sorry that I missed tha exhibition. I am happy to hear that it
was the Countess' wish to leave the documents, to the state, and not
just the family throwing them out, as it were.
Datations are often just that, and not a true and deliberate gift.
Best
Anthony
Le 27 mars 08 à
Peter,
This is terrific, thanks.
I'm enjoying Scherzi Musicali in color from Denmark!
That would be brown, of course.
Thanks so much,
dt
At 07:41 AM 3/27/2008, you wrote:
I've started an database of online facsimile sources of lute and closely
related books, drawing heavily on links posted to
-Ursprungliche Nachricht-
Von: E lucevan le stelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. Marz 2008 13:34
An: E lucevan le stelle
Betreff: Charles Mouton lute music EL 082326
Charles Mouton lute music by Franco Pavan EL 082326
Dear friends of Music,
we are very proud to
Dear Gernot,
There is a tendency in 16th-century sources to intabulate notes as close
to the nut as possible, even if this seems impractical to us today.
Scales tended to go up and down the 1st course, rather than across the
neck staying in the same position. I have in mind the end of Francesco
Hi, David--
I was asked to play the piece with a student ensemble a couple years ago.
They all played modern instruments at 440. I played a gut-strung theorbo in A
that was generally tuned at 415. I ended up rewriting the part just so I had
something to play--if I'd had my way, I would
At 08:05 AM 3/27/2008, Brad McEwen wrote:
For me, it is sufficient to say that the Renaissance instrument was
called mandora, mandore, mandour, etc...
I think there were even occasional occurrences of really wacky spellings
like mandwr. It's mandorgen in Praetorius. I personally favor
At 07:46 AM 3/27/2008, Brad McEwen wrote:
Has some newe reseaarch brought something to light that will cause all
previous books on the subject to now be incorrect and outdated? All
museums will have to recatalogue and rename the mandoras in their collections?
Many collections catalogue
Mdme Thibault was a genuine grande dame, and was very generous
in letting me have access to her collection of rare books. She
owned some Weiss manuscript(s?), that ca. 1507 Italian lute
manuscript, the only known photostat of Spincino (the original
was since discovered in Cracow), and the only
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