[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread chriswilke
Stephen, You've hit the nail on the head as far as lute tutors. I never used a method book. Instead, I sought out some very good teachers. Even though I would often drive for hours to take a lesson, I was fortunate to live so close to people who knew what they were doing.

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread demery
On Thu, May 21, 2009, chriswi...@yahoo.com said: here's 150 pieces, including virtuoso fantasias by Dowland and Milano; Some of that is useful, both as a challenge, and giving notes to what you have memorized from recordings. Also, often times its what makes the book interesting to a

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread angevinews
A major problem is that those who would do this best are struggling to stay awake at the wheel as they drive from one gig to another, paying bills and eating the small profits. Frederick Noads books for Guitar come to mind, The lute world has great performers. The lute world has great

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread Roman Turovsky
Have you ever heard of Pat O'Brien? RT From: angevin...@att.net The lute world has great performers. The lute world has great teachers for those in the more advanced states of learning. What the lute world lacks is a great pedagogue. Some one with the depth of teaching experience and

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread chriswilke
Roman, Pat is indeed a great pedagogue, but only available regularly to those in NYC. Word has it that he's been working on a method book for the past 30 years or so. No plans for release in the foreseeable future, (or ever?) I'm afraid. Chris --- On Thu, 5/21/09,

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread Roman Turovsky
Not only great, but often called to undo damage inflicted by supposedly greater pedagogues. RT - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: angevin...@att.net; lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:29

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread David Rastall
On May 21, 2009, at 12:02 PM, angevin...@att.net wrote: The lute world has great performers. The lute world has great teachers for those in the more advanced states of learning. What the lute world lacks is a great pedagogue. Some one with the depth of teaching experience and knowledge

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread angevinews
I don't really disagree with any of this. But just because lute method books are not adequate in and of themselves without some form of guided instruction from a teacher, does NOT mean that they would not be of benefit, even very great benefit, to people between their lessons 2 or 3 times a year.

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread David Tayler
I think there is a shortage of great teachers, but there is a basic inherent problem in the lute world in the larger sense that will defeat any attempt at a systematic attempt to raise the universal level of play, which is the adoption of standard music practices. Change will have