[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Early flamenco guitars

2015-04-11 Thread William Samson
While we are on the subject of golpeadores I have seen several made from clear celluloid and the soundboard isn't hidden at all. In fact from a few steps away it is impossible to detect the golpeadore. It seems to me that the varnish/lacquer covers the golpeadore, too. Does

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Roller-headed instruments (was Tied frets)

2015-03-12 Thread William Samson
. . . *:| straight face Bill __ From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: luthiste@gmail com luthi...@gmail.com; lute-builder@cs dartmouth. edu lute-builder@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Tied frets

2015-03-11 Thread William Samson
about 5.5 frets! And the famous Buechenberg in Paris with the additional little bass side rose has 7.8 fret spaces on a a string length of 715mm. Pp. 24-5 in the catalogue of the museum. Best wishes, David At 11:15 + 11/3/15, William Samson wrote: Could be why theorboes were

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: NIIN KAUAN

2014-04-11 Thread William Samson
Great! That bass-line is indeed very Balcarres-ish; an awful lot of bass notes . . . Bill From: Arto Wikla wi...@cs.dartmouth.edu To: BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 11 April 2014, 17:15 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: NIIN KAUAN Nice version Roman!

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-27 Thread William Samson
Not that I know anything about it, but the name 'chittarone' seems to give the game away. The very idea has me salivating! Mighty rasgueados on the theorbo, anyone? Bill :) PS Sod the 'evidence' and let's have fun for a change!

[LUTE] Re: And, to reiterate

2014-02-10 Thread William Samson
A matchstick sounds like 'appropriate technology' - and it has a long and honourable history, since the days when tinderboxes fell into disuse. My usual plan of attack on a loose gut fret is first of all to dampen it a little. Gut, unlike nylon, tightens when damp - though it may

[LUTE] Re: Dampening frets?

2014-02-10 Thread William Samson
2014, 18:50 Subject: [LUTE] Dampening frets? On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:27 AM, William Samson [1]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: My usual plan of attack on a loose gut fret is first of all to dampen it a little. Gut, unlike nylon, tightens when damp - though it may take a day

[LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo

2014-02-05 Thread William Samson
Here's the full IMDB entry - Unfortunately nothing much about the music or musicians there: [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611663/fullcredits?ref_=ttfc_ql_1 It's strange how musicians are seldom if ever credited in these things. Music also seems to be the poor cousin when it comes

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-31 Thread William Samson
For what it's worth, here's what Wikipedia has to say: The etymology of the name tiorba has not yet been explained sufficiently. It is hypothesized that its origin might have been in the Slavic or Turkish torba, meaning bag or turban. According to [1]Athanasius Kircher, tiorba was a

[LUTE] Re: Say love and Queen Elizabeth

2014-01-23 Thread William Samson
Not to mention Dowland's Earl of Derby's Galliard, which is clearly an homage to When the Saints go Marching in. Bill ;) [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android __ From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; To:

[LUTE] Re: Don't miss it!

2014-01-17 Thread William Samson
Great programme with one editing blunder - My Lord Chamberlin's Galliard was billed, but Melancholy Galliard was broadcast and it made no sense in the context of the interview. I bet Liz wasn't terribly pleased about that. I was wondering about these slanted frets. My naive

[LUTE-BUILDER] 6c lutes - Fingerboard layout

2014-01-17 Thread William Samson
Dear Collective Wisdom, There appear to be two main styles of fingerboard on 6c lutes. In one case the soundboard continues a little way up the neck and the fingerboard meets it in a straight line join, usually with no stings. In the other case the fingerboard extends a little way

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and HIP (was: Segovia, Segovia, Segovia)

2013-12-18 Thread William Samson
Well observed, David! He is a historical figure, though it is hard for those of us who heard him playing in person to get our heads around it. It reminds us of our own mortality. Bill [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

[LUTE] Chilesotti

2013-12-17 Thread William Samson
Does anyone know if the Chilesotti pieces has been published in lute tablature? Bill [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- References 1. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread William Samson
A recent programme blurb for a Nigel North concert says that he was first inspired by Hank B. Marvin of The Shadows (Cliff Richard's backing group). Being a little older, it was Elvis who first got me thinking I should have a guitar. Bill From: Christopher Wilke

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-15 Thread William Samson
Segovia's early years seem to be unclear. Does anybody know where he learned to play? Did he study with a master? Most of us need to stand on the shoulders of giants, one way or another. Nowadays we are fortunate to be able to attend summer schools where we can have a lesson with

[LUTE] Re: The introduction of nylon strings

2013-12-15 Thread William Samson
HAHA Everybody at that time appreciated the blessings of nylon. Nowadays part of the lute fraternity seems hell bent on going back to gut. I'll stick with my nylon. Life's too short. Bill From: Chris Barker csbarker...@att.net To: 'Bruno Correia' bruno.l...@gmail.com;

[LUTE] Bream, Hoppy, nails and stuff

2013-12-11 Thread William Samson
As my lute guru, Diana Poulton reminded me - Don't base your playing on what today's lutenists do. Go to the sources and make up your own mind. In fact the only times I saw her angry was when people made sweeping assertions that weren't underpinned by the sources. Bill

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-06 Thread William Samson
Those of us who are members of the (British) Lute Society will have read Tony Bailes' delightful tribute to Bream. It's great to know that one of our finest HIP lutenists still enjoys listening to his collection of Bream's recordings. Bill [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

[LUTE] Re: Tombeau la Comète par?

2013-11-29 Thread William Samson
Haha!!! Never mind, Comet Lovejoy is still worth a look. Small but perfectly formed. Any suggestions for a suitable piece to celebrate it? It could have the title La Comete est morte. Vive la Comete! Bill [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Cologne lute MS?

2013-11-07 Thread William Samson
To: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de; William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Baroque Lute List baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2013, 9:30 Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Cologne lute MS? Thank you, Bernd. Yes, but the shelf-number is Ms. 5.P.171 (olim, Ms

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-11-01 Thread William Samson
[1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android __ From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; To: James Jackson weirdgeor...@googlemail.com; Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The golden rose Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:39:23 PM

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Cologne lute MS?

2013-10-31 Thread William Samson
Dear collective wisdom, You're probably aware of the 'Lautenbuch Livre pour le lut Koeln, 18. Jahrhundert' published by Schott ED5425, edited by Giesbert perhaps in the 1930s There's some nice stuff in there and I was trying to learn more about the original MS. Apparently

[LUTE] Re: Best body fret material?

2013-10-31 Thread William Samson
Funny thing - Although body frets were not unknown back in the day, there's very little evidence of them actually being in general use. Few surviving instruments show signs of ever having had them and they are equally rare in the iconography. I wonder if the players back then

[LUTE] Re: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread William Samson
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; To: Tom tgw...@gmail.com; Subject: Re: [LUTE] help on tuning Sent: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 6:53:37 AM It sounds like your octaves

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread William Samson
: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Daniel Shoskes kidneykut...@gmail.com; Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo Sent: Thu, Oct 3, 2013 7:57:22 AM Dear Bill, Most early representations

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-02 Thread William Samson
Interesting question. Do we know how it was done back in the day? Bill Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ From: Daniel Shoskes kidneykut...@gmail.com; To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Subject: [LUTE]

[LUTE] Re: Ebony Pegs Redux

2013-09-30 Thread William Samson
As far as I can tell ebony was not used a lot for tuning pegs throughout the history of the lute - museum catalogues often describe peg material as 'stained fruitwood'. The iconography of pre-1580ish lutes shows that they usually had a blonde finish, and that includes the pegs.

[LUTE] Re: Early ornamentation

2013-09-23 Thread William Samson
Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net To: Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net; William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013, 13:27 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Early ornamentation This might provide assistance, although for recorder

[LUTE] Early ornamentation

2013-09-21 Thread William Samson
Dear Fount of All Knowledge, I am working on some early C16 lute music (Capirola, Judenkunig . . .) and wonder what ornaments, if any, might be used when playing it. Can anybody point me at a source that might help? Thanks, Bill -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Early ornamentation

2013-09-21 Thread William Samson
Thank you Dan. That's a great help. Bill From: Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013, 16:05 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Early ornamentation Capirola himself

[LUTE] Re: Biography of Diana Poulton

2013-09-19 Thread William Samson
I was fortunate to pre order my copy of this wonderful, insightful biography. I read it in two sittings. I won't give anything away - but there was so much more to her life than I could possibly have guessed. Her relationship with Dolmetsch for example. Then there were so

[LUTE] Re: chord fingering

2013-09-09 Thread William Samson
I would like to know too :) I think the answer is a partial barree with the first finger, avoiding fouling the first string. For me this needs a generous space between first and second courses. Any other suggestions? Bill Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

[LUTE] Re: chord fingering

2013-09-09 Thread William Samson
__ From: Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net; To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Edward C. Yong edward.y...@gmail.com; Subject: [LUTE] Re: chord fingering Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2013 3:56:03 PM Excellent practice for jumping in and out

[LUTE] Re: Double wide spacing for polyphony

2013-08-23 Thread William Samson
That's a beautiful lute. In contrast I have a 59cm 7c Venere replica (also shaded yew) with very close string spacing at the nut - as the original lute has. When I was younger this suited me nicely, but as I age my fingers have thickened and it needs very great care to play chords

[LUTE] Re: Liuto forte

2013-08-23 Thread William Samson
I suspect that most of us play on instruments that are 'fake' in one way or another - be it the strings, or the use of single strings when evidence suggest that double stringing was more common at the time. Then again the techniques we use are often at odds with the evidence. This

[LUTE] Re: Time to work on how we look?

2013-08-22 Thread William Samson
Oddly enough, classical musicians seem to be better at this than early music people - who often appear in ill-assorted outfits, hippies that time forgot, or just plain scruffy. Look at orchestral conductors for example - Is there any highly regarded conductor who doesn't have

[LUTE] Time to work on how we look?

2013-08-20 Thread William Samson
Interesting new study showing that visual cues are more important that the sound of a performance in how people judge it: [1]http://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/10288440 To hell with practicing - Better to start working on your image and soulful gurning in front of a mirror! Bill

[LUTE] Re: now- How did Iadone play?

2013-08-16 Thread William Samson
Yes - The Passauro rose isn't a traditional one. It has something of an organic, 'new age' feel to it. The details remind me very much of the architecture of Gaudi, in Barcelona. Bill -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - Would you like to see my lute?

2013-08-13 Thread William Samson
In a recent interview Bream said that his main career objective was to get serious composers to write for the guitar and admitted that he made a nuisance of himself in the nicest possible way until they did. He was clearly trying out his technique on Stravinsky, but with a lute

[LUTE] Re: now- How did Iadone play?

2013-08-13 Thread William Samson
In case anybody has never seen a Passauro lute, here's one that he built in 1967. I've seen it and the craftsmanship is impeccable, but the appearance is quite odd to a modern lutenist's eye. [1]http://image-projects.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/10683/16909/1/0032282c- 0001.jpg Bill

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - astronomy analogy?

2013-08-12 Thread William Samson
Francisco for the public. Constant lines half a dozen deep every Fri and Sat night. Fun? Educational? Rewarding? Oh, lordy. Now, how do we do that for lutes? Sean On Aug 11, 2013, at 11:27 AM, William Samson wrote: Gadzooks and odsbodikins (as we lute-playing chappies are wont

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-12 Thread William Samson
Hi Chris, With all due respect to Messrs North, O'Dette, Barto and Smith ('NOBS' for short- sounds rude but better than 'SNOB' I think) , there are a LOT of younger lutenists who are every bit as good as they were at that age. What the younger ones lack is the immense experience

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-12 Thread William Samson
', providing bread and butter work for competent continuo players. Miles On 2013-08-12, at 10:45 AM, William Samson wrote: Nowadays, of course, there are very many more great quality lutenists than there were forty years ago, but there's not nearly enough work to go round to keep

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-11 Thread William Samson
Gadzooks and odsbodikins (as we lute-playing chappies are wont to say)! Do you think there's a case for an astro-lute breakaway group? I was curator of a public observatory in Dundee, Scotland for five years, before I retired. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_Observatory

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-09 Thread William Samson
Something we haven't heard much about in this discussion is the role that amateur lutenists might play in raising awareness. I have been an amateur lutenist for about 40 years (on and off) and for several years (1980s) a friend and I performed, in period clothes and by

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-09 Thread William Samson
concerned. Bill From: Geoff Gaherty ge...@gaherty.ca To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 22:53 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness On 09/08/13 4:55 PM, William Samson wrote: As amateurs we only accepted travelling expenses and any

[LUTE] Re: home recording

2013-08-08 Thread William Samson
Hi David, Can you recall what frequency range(s) is(are) responsible for bringing out the 'plicky' sound? I sometimes have trouble with my Zoom H2 in that respect and it would be good to get a steer as to where to attack it with the EQ in my software (Audacity). At the moment I

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-07 Thread William Samson
I wonder how many early music 'acts' have an agent or a manager? For a percentage of income, these people can take a lot of the burden of marketing and negotiation from the shoulders of the musicians themselves. Of course agents or managers need to be convinced that there is a

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-06 Thread William Samson
I suppose that audiences for early music are drawn partly from aficionados (mostly fellow early musicians) and people who are just curious. I have come across 'classical musicians' who come along to patronise and sneer - not many, but enough to drizzle on the performers' parade.

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-06 Thread William Samson
So what you're saying, Nancy, in the kindest possible way of course, is that lutenists, generally speaking, are a charmless bunch of technophobes. Ah well, if the cap fits . . . . :( Bill From: Nancy Carlin na...@nancycarlinassociates.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-04 Thread William Samson
it was pointed out to me, the other day, that although it is not unusual for a pianist (with no experience of guitar) to assess the performance of a guitarist in the UK grade exams, a guitarist (with no experience of piano) would NEVER be accepted as a suitable assessor for the

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness (but re guitar exams)

2013-08-04 Thread William Samson
population as there are players of any of these other instruments. I wonder why so few of them become part of a system where they work their way through the grades? Bill From: Stephen Kenyon s...@jacaranda-music.com To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Christopher Wilke

[LUTE] Re: Portrait of William Lawes holding a lute

2013-07-29 Thread William Samson
__ From: David Van Edwards [2][3]da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: William Samson [3][4]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: [4][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu [5][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, 28 July 2013, 21:15 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Portrait of William Lawes holding a lute

[LUTE] Re: Portrait of William Lawes holding a lute

2013-07-29 Thread William Samson
Here's a shorter URL - Might save frustration! [1]http://tinyurl.com/oq3wjxw Bill From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk To: Lex van Sante lvansa...@gmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, 29 July 2013, 13:45 Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Portrait of William Lawes holding a lute

2013-07-28 Thread William Samson
Hi, In today's Telegraph (I hope those of you from outside the UK will be able to access this link!) there's an article about Lawes and his music and it's accompanied by a portrait of him that I've never seen before now.

[LUTE] Re: Portrait of William Lawes holding a lute

2013-07-28 Thread William Samson
. It makes me wonder if alterations of lutes to bring them up to date were sometimes done locally, by people who weren't top-notch luthiers, and so we get this wonderful variety in the iconography. Kind regards, Bill From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: William Samson

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss Volume 9 Facsimile

2013-07-27 Thread William Samson
I wonder how many copies they expect to sell? Libraries only, I suspect. Bill From: Arthur Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net To: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com; baroque lute list baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 12:56 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE]

[LUTE] Re: more music on my web site

2013-07-25 Thread William Samson
Thank you Nancy! I'm going to enjoy tackling these pieces. Bill From: Nancy Carlin na...@nancycarlinassociates.com To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 22:18 Subject: [LUTE] more music on my web site I have finally gotten some more

[LUTE] Re: Gemeentemuseum lutes?

2013-07-24 Thread William Samson
I used to work in a museum before I retired. The best plan would be to contact (well in advance of your visit) the curator in charge of the instrument collection and ask if an arrangement can be made for you to view them when you visit den Haag. Curators are usually happy to help

[LUTE] Re: Big Fret Help

2013-07-16 Thread William Samson
Hi Sterling, Since nobody else seems to be doing so, I'll chip in here. I assume you are using gut for the frets - it's less troublesome than nylon in this respect. I wonder how sharp the edges of your fingerboard are. If they have a sharp edge, there's no 'radius' for the

[LUTE] Re: The golden rose

2013-06-23 Thread William Samson
Footballer David Beckham is also known as 'golden balls'. I won't speculate on whether is literally true or not. Mind you, judging by his highish voice, there may be an element of 'loss' involved here too . . . Bill From: Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com To: R. Mattes

[LUTE] Re: From a Beginner...

2013-06-17 Thread William Samson
Hi Steve, Fear not! Help is at hand! The British Lute Society has a good number of publications of music for renaissance lute, from absolute beginner standard all the way up. Here's a link to their catalogue : [1]http://www.lutesociety.org/pages/catalogue You don't need to

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread William Samson
I've had similar problems with my 67cm lute tuned to f' (440). The string lasted a few days then snapped - this happened a couple of times. I'm now using nylon for my first course. Bill From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 13 June

[LUTE] Re: Dowland 450th Anniversary Conference

2013-04-12 Thread William Samson
Try and stop me! I'll be there and am drooling in anticipation already. Bill Samson From: Hector hectorl...@mac.com To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 23:23 Subject: [LUTE] Dowland 450th Anniversary Conference Dear All, Just to let you

[LUTE] Re: Satoh - de Visée

2013-04-12 Thread William Samson
Beautiful playing - utterly authentic and convincing as far as I can see. Does anybody know anything about his lute, and what kind of gut strings he's using? Bill From: Valery Sauvage sauvag...@orange.fr To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 8:57

[LUTE] Re: Satoh - de Visée

2013-04-12 Thread William Samson
That's fascinating, Ed. I naively thought there would be problems of playing in tune when thick, pure gut basses were stopped, as it does when one tries to use thick nylon for the fifth course, for example. The instrument sounds great, so why all the fuss about loading, catlines

[LUTE-BUILDER] Order of operations

2013-03-19 Thread William Samson
Dear Collective Wisdom, I'm working on a soundboard and my usual procedure is to glue the bridge on first, flip it over onto a flat board with a recess cut to take the bridge then glue on the bars. Is this the usual way to do it, or are there other options that might be

[LUTE-BUILDER] Cassein glue

2013-03-15 Thread William Samson
Hi, An idle question here - I saw on TV how to make casein glue - using skimmed milk, bicarb and vinegar. Apparently it's been around since ancient Egyptian times. http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_8474158_make-casein-glue.html Do you know of any uses it might have had in instrument

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Cassein glue

2013-03-15 Thread William Samson
Thanks for all the interesting replies! I came across another interesting use of glue the other day - I bought a very cheap uke (which actually worked pretty well) and decided to take it apart. It was held together with hot-melt glue of the type used in glue guns. It came apart

[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

2013-03-12 Thread William Samson
Hi Stuart, The Lute Society has a list of makers on its website, many of whom are 'happy to do remedial work on badly set-up lutes', which sounds like what's needed. Reading through this list was a good memory jog for me, both in terms of established luthiers and newer ones:

[LUTE] Re: Celebrating Dowland's 450th Anniversary - Cambridge

2013-03-11 Thread William Samson
This sounds very interesting. However I can't find details of the cost of attending the conference. When will this be decided? Thanks, Bill Samson From: Hector hectorl...@mac.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013, 21:09 Subject: [LUTE] Celebrating

[LUTE] Re: Lute for Sturt

2013-02-28 Thread William Samson
David Van Edwards wrote: You *could* play everything on a 10 course lute but it would give a rather false idea of the 6 course music. He might easily have had two or three lutes. Spoken like a true luthier! [And quite right too :) ] I'll just add that I currently

[LUTE] Re: Origins of bowing.

2013-02-18 Thread William Samson
So that's 'bowing'. So how does 'scraping' come into it, as in 'bowing and scraping'. Both words also apply to what people do to members of the violin family. Bill From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: Mathias Roesel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Cc:

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Guitar Video

2013-02-15 Thread William Samson
Coming to the party late. I have just one word for this performance and that word is . . . . . . . . . BRAVO!! Bill From: Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com To: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013, 19:03 Subject: [LUTE] Baroque Guitar Video

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Further to: Bar end supports on lutes

2013-02-07 Thread William Samson
Dear Martyn, What you say makes perfect sense. I will continue to follow the example set by the old ones. Kind regards, Bill From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Lute builder Dmth lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 14:46

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Further to: Bar end supports on lutes

2013-02-07 Thread William Samson
Yikes! How do professional lute makers manage to sleep at night, with their products ready to go 'pop' at any moment? Bill From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; Lute builder Dmth

[LUTE-BUILDER] Soundboard bar supports

2013-02-06 Thread William Samson
Dear Collective Wisdom. I have never understood why luthiers have never got around to gluing little blocks to the inside of the edge ribs in way of the ends of the bars. Throughout history one of the commonest faults in a lute has been the ungluing of a bar end causing the

[LUTE] Lute painting

2013-02-04 Thread William Samson
I wonder what the layout of the upper head of this lute might be? [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/icon/party-1.gif Artist Jacopo Vignale, early 17th Century. Bill -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/icon/party-1.gif To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Lute painting

2013-02-04 Thread William Samson
to bring it 'up to date' with an extended neck and a load of diapasons. Anyway - I very much doubt if we've hit upon a new, hitherto unknown lute type. Best regards, Bill From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List

[LUTE] Re: Lute painting

2013-02-04 Thread William Samson
I forgot to mention that I also googled other paintings by Vignole and can't find any others showing a lute, so I can't cross check that way. Bill From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk To: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent

[LUTE] Re: Lute painting

2013-02-04 Thread William Samson
don't look particularly other-worldly. Great fun, this speculation! Bill From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 17:54 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute painting Dear

[LUTE] Re: Lute painting

2013-02-04 Thread William Samson
: Lute painting I'll try again: [1]http://www.lutevoice.com/luteiconography/Page%204.html Got to the painting by J.G. Platzer; an apparently non-offset theorbo neck extension. -Original Message- From: William Samson [2]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk To: David Van Edwards [3]da

[LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana

2013-02-02 Thread William Samson
]http://media10.dropshots.com/photos/224074/20130201/145654.jpg Bill From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 8:52 Subject: [LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana

[LUTE] Re: Back to the 4-cours guitar

2013-02-01 Thread William Samson
Names, as we all know, are funny things that shift with time, leading to all kinds of confusion for modern musicians and scholars. One that struck me recently on a visit to a museum was a card proclaiming that a swan-necked 13c lute was a 'theorbo'. At first I winced, then thought

[LUTE] Re: SoundCloud Recordings

2013-02-01 Thread William Samson
What an excellent resource, Rob. You've certainly done a power of work over the years to have accumulated this much, and on top of that there's all the non-lute recordings you've done too. More power to your elbow (and fingertips . . .). Bill From: Rob MacKillop

[LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana

2013-02-01 Thread William Samson
And another - - [1]http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/397398_540295 165989887_664104334_n.jpg Six pegs - Big mandore with 4 single and one double course? Bill From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net To: WALSH STUART s.wa...@ntlworld.com Cc:

[LUTE] Re: The English Guitar

2013-01-31 Thread William Samson
(Semi) serious question. What music was composed for this instrument outside Scotland? - Is it any good? (- the music from outside Scotland, that is). Second question - What did they call this instrument back in the day? Specifically, was it ever called The English Guitar?

[LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana

2013-01-31 Thread William Samson
Might it not have been the case that there were a variety of sizes? Could there have been such a thing as a 'great-octave-bass' chitarra? [Kidding] Still, in the 18th century there was at least one very big 5c guitar made by Stradivari. Does anybody have statistics on string

[LUTE] Re: Bad url for 4c guitar in Italy etc

2013-01-29 Thread William Samson
By the way, for what it's worth, I've attempted to measure the string length of the 4c instrument the boy is playing in the first image, assuming a pupil separation of about 7cm. It comes out at something like 55 - 60 cm. Not accurate, but a ballpark figure. Bill -- To get

[LUTE] Re: 4c guitar in Italy (= Italian gittern?)etc

2013-01-29 Thread William Samson
...@ntlworld.com To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 12:51 Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4c guitar in Italy (= Italian gittern?)etc On 29/01/2013 09:45, William Samson wrote: By the way, for what it's worth, I've attempted

[LUTE] Re: 6c guittar

2013-01-29 Thread William Samson
What a gorgeous sound! Now are you SURE it's a 'guittar'? Not a Gittariglia? Or a Kitherone? Or a Banjino Scotsese? Or a Mandolele Giorgio Formbyana? Or a Strattolino Hankus B. Marviniensis?. . . Looking forward to hearing it in the flesh on Saturday at the Scottish Lute

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread William Samson
I came across this picture of a lute with 4 courses. Could this be one of the lute-shaped guitars? [1]http://sdrv.ms/10Q9ifI Hope you can see this link to my Skydrive. Bill -- References 1. http://sdrv.ms/10Q9ifI To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread William Samson
. Bill PS It seems to me that it shares the looks (on a smaller scale) of one of the surviving gallichons. From: Andreas Schlegel lute.cor...@sunrise.ch To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013, 20:18 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

[LUTE] Re: 6c stringing?

2013-01-21 Thread William Samson
I concur, Dr Winheld. I would love to keep them all in gut but reaching for the instrument I use least or most and finding another broken or barely limping along string compels me to fall into the plastic alternative. The last major gut purchase nearly started divorce proceedings.

[LUTE] 6c stringing?

2013-01-20 Thread William Samson
Dear Collective Wisdom, I believe that 6c lutes are often strung with octaves on the 6th, 5th and 4th courses. Would you use that stringing for all parts of the lute repertoire that needs only six courses, or would other arrangements be appropriate for parts of the repertoire?

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Pitch center on a 10 cs. lute

2013-01-01 Thread William Samson
Hi Paul, I have a 10c lute of 66cm scale. The highest I can take it with a nylon chanterelle (the strongest material) is f# at A440 - and that's really pushing it. I normally keep it at f. Even at f, with a nylgut chanterelle, it tends to break quite frequently, which is why I

[LUTE] Re: Xmas cheese

2012-12-23 Thread William Samson
That's delightful, Stuart! Certainly cheered me up - this miserable weather is sapping my will to live. Have a great festive season! Bill From: WALSH STUART s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2012, 17:42 Subject: [LUTE] Xmas

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-01 Thread William Samson
: Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2012, 5:15 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room 'I'm not too familiar with Gamut's terminology. I know that Mace

[LUTE] Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-11-30 Thread William Samson
Looking at all the discussion we've been having about gut strings - to load, or not to load, to wind or not to wind, to twist or not to twist . . . - one thing that hasn't come up for a while is how different modern gut seems to be from the old stuff. When you look at old pictures

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