You are missing the point.
You are talking to the few hundred people on Earth who play old lute
pieces...
Imagine Average Joe of today with a score of a Beatles song.
Yeah.
On 05.06.20 18:23, G. C. wrote:
So people on this list, are playing Renaissance and Baroque music
> >>>time to time.
> > >>>Petyer Steur suggests the lute piece on f.26v (Gigue de
> > >Angelin de
> > >>>Rome) is by A M Bartolotii but this may be simply
> > speculation
> > > >
they
>>surely
>>>play
>>>>and
>>>> sound like Bartolotti.
>>>> Is there any other theorbo player from that time
that we
>>
So people on this list, are playing Renaissance and Baroque music
because they have the records? H
G.
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If we didn't have recordings, people would have to play them on
instruments...
I think many of those songs would have disappeared already...
On 05.06.20 18:03, G. C. wrote:
What are 80 years? We are still enjoying playing and listening to
Beatles and Stones music, near 60 years
What are 80 years? We are still enjoying playing and listening to
Beatles and Stones music, near 60 years old. And even older Jazz
music. Why would people in the 17th century have been any different?
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lto:rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org > wrote:
> >>> While the unascribed pieces could by someone else, they
> >surely
> > >play
> >>>and
> >>> sound like Bartolotti.
> >>>
Am Freitag, 05. Juni 2020 12:27 CEST, Monica Hall
schrieb:
> To be honest I don't think it is the usual classic scholarly course to
> attempt to date a source by its contents and style. Someone on an earlier
> occasion on the list commented
That's what I just wanted to reply as well.
>
we
>know
>>of, who
>> > could match the style and technique of these pieces?
>>> r
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>>
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>>> While the unascribed pieces could by someone else, they
>surely
>>play
>>>and
>>> sound like Bartolotti.
>>> Is there any other theorbo player from that time that we
>know
>
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>> From: [1][3][5]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
> > <[2][4][6]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dart
of these pieces?
>> r
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> > <[2][4]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.da
;<[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, Monica Hall <[7]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>,
>Roland Hayes <[8]rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org>
>>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo
>>
>>?space?-- Dear Roland,
> Bartolotti's pre
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>> Original message
>>From: Martyn Hodgson <[4]hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020, 08:21
>>To: [5]yuval.dvo...@posteo.de, LuteList
><[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, Monica Hall &
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> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo
>
> ?space?-- Dear Roland,
Bartolotti's precise dates seem unknown at present but c.1630 -
1682
may be a reasonab
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>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo
>
>?space?-- Dear Roland,
Bartolotti's precise dates seem unknown at p
>
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>
> Original message
> From: Martyn Hodgson
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020, 08:21
> To: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de, LuteList , Monica Hall
> , Roland Hayes
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti m
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> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo
> Thanks for this.
> I have the Moscardi edition but he doesn't give any reasons for
> thinking the piec
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo
Thanks for this.
I have the Moscardi edition but he doesn't give any reasons for
thinking the pieces are by Bartolotti.
Unfortunately with lockdown I can't visit the library
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo
Thanks for this.
I have
Thanks for this.
I have the Moscardi edition but he doesn't give any reasons for thinking the
pieces are by Bartolotti.
Unfortunately with lockdown I can't visit the library to check any other
sources but if I do eventually find some evidence I will let you know.
Cheers
Monica
> On 04 June 2020
Maybe it's worth to take a look on some of the literature? There is:
Boetticher: RISM B VII, p. 351-352 (rather useless, but he gives a bunch
of literature which I don't know)
Meyer (ed.): Sources Manuscrites en Tablature III/1, S. 121-125 (he
doesn't give any information on the other theorbo
Thanks Martyn
That's very helpful.
Regards
Monica
> On 04 June 2020 at 14:35 Martyn Hodgson
> wrote:
>
>
>Dear Monica,
>No - I don't know if there are any grounds for attributing the other
>tiorba pieces in this Ms to Bartolotti other than, of course, being
>adjacent in the
Dear Monica,
No - I don't know if there are any grounds for attributing the other
tiorba pieces in this Ms to Bartolotti other than, of course, being
adjacent in the same Ms. Incidentally the attribution of the Allemande
(Allemanda di Angelo Michiele) is on f.89r. not 92r.
The
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