[LUTE] Re: A strange timne signature

Without context it's impossible to answer, but it C3 can be used for tempus imperfectum cum prolatione perfecta. Which can be transcribed in modern notation as 6/2. David *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's 100th Psalm

I thought as much—hence the "promotion" to Dott(ore) in Ravenscroft. Did he get an advanced degree in the 17 year interval between Este and Ravenscroft? Leonard On 4/23/17, 8:48 AM, "Ron Andrico" wrote: >I.D B. of M. = John Dowland, Bachelor of Music > > >

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's 100th Psalm

On 23.04.2017 15:07, Leonard Williams wrote: I thought as much—hence the "promotion" to Dott(ore) in Ravenscroft. Did he get an advanced degree in the 17 year interval between Este and Ravenscroft? Exactly. He received his Bachelor in 1588 and Doctor in (or before) 1620 as mentioned by

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

Konnichiwa Tomoko-san Vivat Eliza = Long live (Queen) Elisabeth. So as English-Latin as you like the Vivat, and then as English-English as you like Eliza. This little song cycle has some more Latin in it. Either make it period-English-Latin, or make it clearly Latin. There are

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

Dear Tomoko, Try GoogleTranslate. Put your fraze in the space on the left, choose a language you think it is in, and press the little speaker underneath. Then keep changing languages until you think it rhymes best with ‘Ave María’. Stupid but works ;) Jerzy — > On 23 Apr 2017, at 17:02,

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

HIP 2.0 (?!) Wa chotto hen desu, yo! *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 23 April 2017 at 17:44, Jerzy Zak <[3]jurek...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Tomoko, Try

[LUTE] Vivat Eliza

Dear lute-list, Could anyone help me clarify pronunciation of "Vivat Eliza" in Dowland's composition to Sir. Henry Lee's poem "Time's Eldest Son"? I thought it could be " viːvæt ("Vivat" read in ecclesiastical Latin?) and " əiːzə" (with this pronunciation it rhymes with "Ave Maria" ) though

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's 100th Psalm

Modern Edition by Stainer & Bell 1973. On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 at 10:44, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: Dowland's psalm settings were published in The Whole Booke of Psalmes (Thomas Este), 1. edition 1592, 2nd edition 1604 see

[LUTE] Dowland's 100th Psalm

Thanks for the references and good information on Dowland! I have looked into the facsimiles of both the Este and Ravenscroft psalters. Este has 30 odd pieces by Dowland; Psalm 100 is not clearly listed under his name, but it appears in the book by "I.D.B. of M.". It is not the

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

Arigato go zai mas, David-san, In Rooley's The Consort of Musicke recording, David Thomas sang "Vivat" like "va;y-vat" (similar to syllables of "Wyatt") "Eliza" like "eh-lie-zah". Sounds quite modern-english-english to my ears and I was wondering why he sang like that. Tomoko -Original

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

About your recording. I think the Vivat he sang like English pronunciation of Latin. Liza like modern English, because I suppose he sang the rest of the song in modern English too. (I've recorded it too. Should check what the singer did, maybe ...) In HIP lute song performance,

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's 100th Psalm

On 23.04.2017 14:29, Leonard Williams wrote: Thanks for the references and good information on Dowland! I have looked into the facsimiles of both the Este and Ravenscroft psalters. Este has 30 odd pieces by Dowland; Psalm 100 is not clearly listed under his name, but it appears

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's 100th Psalm

I thought it was Italian! I was under the impression that some artists Latinized/Italianized their names (Giovanni Coperario comes to mind)—why not honorifics? Where did he get his degree, by the way? Leonard On 4/23/17, 12:46 PM, "Rainer"

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

Dear David, I think that it is very unfortunate that early pronunciation has not become a more essential part of performing practice. If one looks at the work carried out by David Crystal and his son Ben, notably for the Globe Theatre productions of Shakespeare, the benefits seem to far

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

When the famous musicologist Donald Jay Grout came to my college, he responded to an homologous question (should Bach be played on a piano, perhaps ???), “If it is worth doing, it is worth doing badly”. Ray Nurse said we haven’t had an early music revival, we’ve had an early instrument revival.

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

But I agree with you wholeheartedly! But then, I like to read Le Morte d'Arthur in its original; not everyone's cup of tea, you'd have to agree. One of my pet peeves is that everybody in early music is a specialist these days (well, was, but that's another pet peeve) except for the

[LUTE] Re: Vivat Eliza

It would be interesting to know when Robert Spencer made his comment. Some years ago now, I suspect, and many aspects of early music performance have probably evolved positively since. If a good quality lute in the right hands is played in an appropriate acoustic (here in France we are lucky

[LUTE] A strange timne signature

Good morning, does anybody know what the compound time signature C3 means? Best wishes, Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's 100th Psalm

Dowland's psalm settings were published in The Whole Booke of Psalmes (Thomas Este), 1. edition 1592, 2nd edition 1604 see http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/The_Whole_Booke_of_Psalmes_(Thomas_Este) with a link to a facsimile of the 2nd edition. Rainer On 23.04.2017 02:25, Markus