I suppose the question is not so much which words rhymed, but which
with which.
For example was 'wind' rhymed with the modern pronunciation of
'find/mind' - or did 'mind/find' rhyme with the modern 'wind' ?
An early spelling of 'winde' and 'kinde' might suggest the former - but
Edward, et al.
The reason that the pegbox of the lute is bent back is pure physics. Having
the strings wrapped 70 to 90 degrees around the nut provides a significant
"downward" force of the string against the nut, allowing for its location to be
maintained by use of only a very shallow
You ask: 'Is it common for makers to keep that paper stencil/pattern on
the instrument?'
For extant original instruments the answer is yes.
MH
On Friday, 7 June 2019, 03:11:32 BST, Edward C. Yong
wrote:
Hi Daniel,
The buzz has always been there as long as I've had the
Hmmm - so was 'find' pronounced 'foind' then? and 'mind' as 'moind'?
Perhaps the picture is not as straightforward and clear cut as this?
MH
On Friday, 7 June 2019, 14:31:35 BST, jslute
wrote:
Dear Martyn and All,
According to the Crystals, "wind" would be pronounced
I would say the click almost certainly indicates a loose bar. You can
indeed get buzzes from all sorts of places - strings touching the
soundboard behind the bridge, nut grooves which are not quite right,
strings touching each other in the pegbox, even (as you suggest) a
slightly unglued piece
Dear Martyn and All,
According to the Crystals, "wind" would be pronounced something like
"woind" or "woynd." Ben Crystal helped with one of my theater group
productions a couple of years ago.
Jim Stimson
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Original
There is no online resource that I am aware of. However Prof. Crystal is quite
accessible and if you email him and lines you curious about, or even just a
couple of words, he will probably be quite happy to respond. Often on
Shakespearean works, from monologues to entire plays, he will send a
Prof. Crystal relies quite a lot on Ben Jonson's English Grammar. Applying that
to Shakespeare (and his contemporaries) he has come up with a reasonable
hypothesis as to the Early Modern English dialect of the 16th and 17th
centuries.
Regards,
Craig
> On June 7, 2019 at 11:23 AM Martyn
Yes, this is a fairly common view - but I what's the reasoning and
evidence for it?
MH
On Friday, 7 June 2019, 16:18:42 BST, Helen Atkinson
wrote:
Yes - from what I've learnt from Richard Rastall and others, it's
'keu-ind' and "weu-ind" ... a bit as they'd say it in the west
> On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>
> Yes, but the question must be, dialect from where exactly? Regional
> dialects have always varied significantly and it is really a vain
> effort to think we can impose one true historical pronunciation upon
> the whole of the past.
Dear All,
The pronunciation in question is in the London area, circa 1600.
Jim Stimson
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Original message
From: Ron Andrico
Date: 6/7/19 2:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: corun
Cc: LuteNet list
Subject:
And then, of course, you've got the complication of wind (moving air)
or "wind the clock".
Leonard
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From: Martyn Hodgson
To: howard posner ; LuteNet list
; Ed Durbrow ; jslute
Sent: Fri, Jun 7, 2019 9:42 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Renaissance
Sorry guys - I know I promised not to open that Pandora's Box...
..but this is too good.
I think speculation time is over.
One of the oldest Sikh Ragas - Dhanasari/Dhanashree - is clearly the
model for "La Spiritata" by Gabrieli.
When you listen to this new mashup, there is no guessing. All
You obviously have NOT heard of David Crystal's OXFORD DICTIONARY OF
ORIGINAL SHAKESPEAREAN PRONUNCIATION published by Oxford in 2016 (the
400th anniversary of Shakespeare's death). A very respected scholar,
his son has become an expert on Shakespeare. David has authored many
texts,
The clock can't run if its winded. But you got to wind it to make it run.
On 6/7/2019 3:12 PM, Leonard Williams wrote:
And then, of course, you've got the complication of wind (moving air)
or "wind the clock".
Leonard
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