Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

On 06/20/2016 08:01 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Montag, 20. Juni 2016 um 07:47:12, schrieb Michael Berger 

Hi  Kornel,
I set PATH as you told me, see: bash_profileKor.png
and also tried as Jürgen told me, see: bash_profileJue.png

Both show exactly the same behavior:

- calling 'tlmgr gui' from a console as user the GUI pops up but with
the buttons disabled
"You have no permission to change the installation. Run as
administrator..."

OK, that makes sense to me. I installed TL as a user.
# sudo mkdir /usr/local/texlive
# sudo chown   /usr/local/texlive
# ./install -gui

That way, I am not forced to be root when calling tlmgr.


and indeed, I could do nothing with the GUI, but

- calling 'tlmgr gui' from a console as administrator returns: 'bash:
tlmgr: command not found'

Yes, because user 'root' has its own PATH.


It seems to me as if the last tiny bit was still missing.
Could it have to do with the last line 'unset USERNAME' ?

Thank you both for your continuing patience!
Michael

Kornel

Hi Kornel,

I followed your above instructions,
in '.bash_profile' I changed
'PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH'
to
'PATH=/usr/local/texlive/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH'

After re-login I called 'tlmgr gui' as user and an active GUI popped up.
This command is reproducable.

Observations
- I cannot call tlmgr gui from a root terminal (I think that is OK)
- the installation took more than two hours compared to one hour of 
previous installations
- the file tree has grown and the subfolder '/x86_64-linux' in 
/user/local/texlive/2016/bin/ has all its files empty (0 B)


I run the installer without removing the old installation. I presume 
this is the reason for the slow speed, the blown up tree, and the 0 B files.
I furthermore reckon these empty files can be removed but will not take 
any action without receiving your advice as to what and how.


I hope my installation is now functioning as should!?

Cheers and thanks,
Michael

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 20. Juni 2016 um 08:35:57, schrieb Buenas Noticias 

> Hi Michael:
> 
> I download lyx-2.2.0.tar.gz of repository ftp.lyx.org
> 
> As a user in konsole $tar zxvf lyx-2.2.0.tar.gz
> 
> $cd lyx-2.2.0
> $ ./configure
> 
> As a root
> 
> # make

AT least 'make' should not be done as root.

> # make install
> 
> In konsole as a user lyx
> 
> Welcome to lyx !!!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Miguel
> 

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

That's great Miguel,
I will try that after my other work is done and then inform you on the 
result.


PS: there must hardly be any people having installed Lyx 2.2 in Mageia 
because the response from the lyx user list is almost zero.


Thanks and cheers!
Michael

On 06/20/2016 08:35 AM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

I download lyx-2.2.0.tar.gz of repository ftp.lyx.org

As a user in konsole $tar zxvf lyx-2.2.0.tar.gz

$cd lyx-2.2.0
$ ./configure

As a root

# make
# make install

In konsole as a user lyx

Welcome to lyx !!!

Regards

Miguel




On 20/06/16 08:28, Michael Berger wrote:

Miguel,
thanks for your advice.
Are you using Mageia5 and have you Lyx 2.2 installed? If so may I ask
you  how you did this ?
Michael from Germany

On 06/20/2016 08:19 AM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

As I did not shall find the package, installed in text mode. Is
perfectly valid. If you want to check it, go to the PAHT / usr / local
/ texlive / 2016 / x86_64

Reconfigure and work

Greeting

Miguel from Spain




On 18/06/16 08:36, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.

I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
gui. :-\
Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed 
out of

the total number of 24.

The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support 
- did

you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.

I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael



On 06/17/2016 03:09 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

Yes, Tools > Preferences > PATH

Then reconfigure LyX and work.

Miguel



On 17/06/16 14:30, Michael Berger wrote:

Hola Buenas Noticias y muchas muchas gracias!

Your comment is very good news to me especially as it comes from a
person using Mageia5 like I do.
You basically did what I was planning.
But then you also added some very interesting extras that I was not
aware of and nobody before had mentioned.

A have one single question though re 'Preferences-PATH'.
Do you refer to the LyX Preferences Menu Tools > Preferences >
Paths and
then write into PATH prefix ?

Of course I will revert to you after the work is done. However, I
might
come up with more questions if something should go wrong ;-)

Michael

On 06/17/2016 12:03 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux

I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not
sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be 
observed/added/done

etc.

Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Buenas Noticias]

Hi Michael:

I download lyx-2.2.0.tar.gz of repository ftp.lyx.org

As a user in konsole $tar zxvf lyx-2.2.0.tar.gz

$cd lyx-2.2.0
$ ./configure

As a root

# make
# make install

In konsole as a user lyx

Welcome to lyx !!!

Regards

Miguel




On 20/06/16 08:28, Michael Berger wrote:

Miguel,
thanks for your advice.
Are you using Mageia5 and have you Lyx 2.2 installed? If so may I ask
you  how you did this ?
Michael from Germany

On 06/20/2016 08:19 AM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

As I did not shall find the package, installed in text mode. Is
perfectly valid. If you want to check it, go to the PAHT / usr / local
/ texlive / 2016 / x86_64

Reconfigure and work

Greeting

Miguel from Spain




On 18/06/16 08:36, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.

I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
gui. :-\
Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
the total number of 24.

The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.

I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael



On 06/17/2016 03:09 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

Yes, Tools > Preferences > PATH

Then reconfigure LyX and work.

Miguel



On 17/06/16 14:30, Michael Berger wrote:

Hola Buenas Noticias y muchas muchas gracias!

Your comment is very good news to me especially as it comes from a
person using Mageia5 like I do.
You basically did what I was planning.
But then you also added some very interesting extras that I was not
aware of and nobody before had mentioned.

A have one single question though re 'Preferences-PATH'.
Do you refer to the LyX Preferences Menu Tools > Preferences >
Paths and
then write into PATH prefix ?

Of course I will revert to you after the work is done. However, I
might
come up with more questions if something should go wrong ;-)

Michael

On 06/17/2016 12:03 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux

I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not
sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be observed/added/done
etc.

Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Buenas Noticias]

Hi Michael:

As I did not shall find the package, installed in text mode. Is 
perfectly valid. If you want to check it, go to the PAHT / usr / local / 
texlive / 2016 / x86_64


Reconfigure and work

Greeting

Miguel from Spain




On 18/06/16 08:36, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.

I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
gui. :-\
Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
the total number of 24.

The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.

I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael



On 06/17/2016 03:09 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

Yes, Tools > Preferences > PATH

Then reconfigure LyX and work.

Miguel



On 17/06/16 14:30, Michael Berger wrote:

Hola Buenas Noticias y muchas muchas gracias!

Your comment is very good news to me especially as it comes from a
person using Mageia5 like I do.
You basically did what I was planning.
But then you also added some very interesting extras that I was not
aware of and nobody before had mentioned.

A have one single question though re 'Preferences-PATH'.
Do you refer to the LyX Preferences Menu Tools > Preferences > Paths and
then write into PATH prefix ?

Of course I will revert to you after the work is done. However, I might
come up with more questions if something should go wrong ;-)

Michael

On 06/17/2016 12:03 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux

I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be observed/added/done
etc.

Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 20. Juni 2016 um 07:47:12, schrieb Michael Berger 
> Hi  Kornel,
> I set PATH as you told me, see: bash_profileKor.png
> and also tried as Jürgen told me, see: bash_profileJue.png
> 
> Both show exactly the same behavior:
> 
> - calling 'tlmgr gui' from a console as user the GUI pops up but with 
> the buttons disabled
>"You have no permission to change the installation. Run as 
> administrator..."

OK, that makes sense to me. I installed TL as a user.
# sudo mkdir /usr/local/texlive
# sudo chown   /usr/local/texlive
# ./install -gui

That way, I am not forced to be root when calling tlmgr.

> and indeed, I could do nothing with the GUI, but
> 
> - calling 'tlmgr gui' from a console as administrator returns: 'bash: 
> tlmgr: command not found'

Yes, because user 'root' has its own PATH.

> It seems to me as if the last tiny bit was still missing.
> Could it have to do with the last line 'unset USERNAME' ?
> 
> Thank you both for your continuing patience!
> Michael

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

Hi  Kornel,
I set PATH as you told me, see: bash_profileKor.png
and also tried as Jürgen told me, see: bash_profileJue.png

Both show exactly the same behavior:

- calling 'tlmgr gui' from a console as user the GUI pops up but with 
the buttons disabled
  "You have no permission to change the installation. Run as 
administrator..."


and indeed, I could do nothing with the GUI, but

- calling 'tlmgr gui' from a console as administrator returns: 'bash: 
tlmgr: command not found'


It seems to me as if the last tiny bit was still missing.
Could it have to do with the last line 'unset USERNAME' ?

Thank you both for your continuing patience!
Michael

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 18:16:54, schrieb Jes Drost Nissen 

> Hi Michael.
> 
> To the line in your .bash-profile
> 
>  PATH = $PATH:$HOME/bin
> 
> add your path:
> 
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux

This is wrong, the value "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" should be 
before "/usr/bin".
E.g.:
PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$HOME/bin:$PATH

> and save. Should be OK then.
> 
> Regards
> Jes

Kornel


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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 14:26:21, schrieb Michael Berger 
> 
> On 06/19/2016 01:02 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 12:07:37, schrieb Michael Berger 
> > 
> >>> Kornel, thanks for the tip-off re '..change PATH directly'.
> >>> On second thought I agree for e.g. one simple reason: without having
> >>> set Path one cannot call tlmgr gui from a terminal.
> >>> So, I did:  PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,Michael
> >> Sorry Kornel,
> >> I have another problem.
> >> After I set PATH as described above I could  immediately call 'tlmgr
> >> gui' and the GUI was there.
> >> When I tried the same again after some time bash said 'command not found'
> >> Then I set Path again as before and I could call Gui.
> >> This behaviour is repeating.
> >> Can you help with this?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Michael
> > There is more than one solution.
> >
> > 1.) I see, you are using bash. Sure you have a '.profile' file in your home 
> > directory.
> > Edit this file and set PATH.
> > 2.) More complicated but valid for *all* shells.
> > 2a.) Edit fir ~/.pam_environment
> > 2b.) Add a line here
> > PATH DEFAULT=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:${PATH}
> > 2c.) re-login
> >
> > Kornel
> Dear Kornel,
> 
> 1) I found no file '.profile' but the file '.bash_profile' in /Home as 
> per screenshot
> If this is the correct file, should I edit it in the User specific 
> environment section by replacing the existing PATH  or add my PATH below 
> it ?

Yes.

> 2a) fir ~/.pam_environment   returns > bash: fir: command not found

Sorry, I meant 'Edit file' not 'Edit fir'
See 'man pam_env' for more info.

>fi ~/.pam_environmentreturns > bash: syntax error near 
> unexpected token 'fi'
> 
> Sorry for being so very innocentO:-)
> Michael

Kornel

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

On 06/19/2016 01:02 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 12:07:37, schrieb Michael Berger 

Kornel, thanks for the tip-off re '..change PATH directly'.
On second thought I agree for e.g. one simple reason: without having
set Path one cannot call tlmgr gui from a terminal.
So, I did:  PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH

Cheers,Michael

Sorry Kornel,
I have another problem.
After I set PATH as described above I could  immediately call 'tlmgr
gui' and the GUI was there.
When I tried the same again after some time bash said 'command not found'
Then I set Path again as before and I could call Gui.
This behaviour is repeating.
Can you help with this?

Thanks,
Michael

There is more than one solution.

1.) I see, you are using bash. Sure you have a '.profile' file in your home 
directory.
Edit this file and set PATH.
2.) More complicated but valid for *all* shells.
2a.) Edit fir ~/.pam_environment
2b.) Add a line here
PATH DEFAULT=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:${PATH}
2c.) re-login

Kornel

Dear Kornel,

1) I found no file '.profile' but the file '.bash_profile' in /Home as 
per screenshot
If this is the correct file, should I edit it in the User specific 
environment section by replacing the existing PATH  or add my PATH below 
it ?


2a) fir ~/.pam_environment   returns > bash: fir: command not found
  fi ~/.pam_environmentreturns > bash: syntax error near 
unexpected token 'fi'


Sorry for being so very innocentO:-)
Michael

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 12:07:37, schrieb Michael Berger 
> > Kornel, thanks for the tip-off re '..change PATH directly'.
> > On second thought I agree for e.g. one simple reason: without having 
> > set Path one cannot call tlmgr gui from a terminal.
> > So, I did:  PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH
> >
> > Cheers,Michael
> Sorry Kornel,
> I have another problem.
> After I set PATH as described above I could  immediately call 'tlmgr 
> gui' and the GUI was there.
> When I tried the same again after some time bash said 'command not found'
> Then I set Path again as before and I could call Gui.
> This behaviour is repeating.
> Can you help with this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael

There is more than one solution.

1.) I see, you are using bash. Sure you have a '.profile' file in your home 
directory.
Edit this file and set PATH.
2.) More complicated but valid for *all* shells.
2a.) Edit fir ~/.pam_environment
2b.) Add a line here
PATH DEFAULT=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:${PATH}
2c.) re-login

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

On 06/19/2016 11:35 AM, Michael Berger wrote:



On 06/18/2016 09:56 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:
Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 


Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling
instead and added the following packages:
perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without
problem.

In the end I was urged to add 
"/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux"

to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to 
the installed texlive.



The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I 
may

also ask Scott Kostyshak.

All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael


Kornel

Kornel, thanks for the tip-off re '..change PATH directly'.
On second thought I agree for e.g. one simple reason: without having 
set Path one cannot call tlmgr gui from a terminal.

So, I did:  PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH

Cheers,Michael

Sorry Kornel,
I have another problem.
After I set PATH as described above I could  immediately call 'tlmgr 
gui' and the GUI was there.

When I tried the same again after some time bash said 'command not found'
Then I set Path again as before and I could call Gui.
This behaviour is repeating.
Can you help with this?

Thanks,
Michael

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

On 06/18/2016 09:56 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 

Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling
instead and added the following packages:
perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without
problem.

In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux"
to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the 
installed texlive.


The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may
also ask Scott Kostyshak.

All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael


Kornel

Kornel, thanks for the tip-off re '..change PATH directly'.
On second thought I agree for e.g. one simple reason: without having set 
Path one cannot call tlmgr gui from a terminal.

So, I did:  PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH

Cheers,Michael

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 06:00:58AM +0200, UD wrote:
> I can answer my own question:
> If I start tlmgr from the terminal with:
> tlmgr gui -font "helvetica 12"
> then tlmgr opens with a usable size font, and all is well.

Glad you got it solved, Ehud! Thanks for posting back with the solution.
It sounds like using HiDPI is still an adventure on Linux.

I have three favors to ask of you:

1. Please do not send HTML-only emails. If you would like, send an HTML
version but also a plain-text version. I thought you had figured out how
to do that with Thunderbird when we last discussed this.

2. Can you please bottom-post (this is listed in our Netiquette
http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7)

3. Please respond to the email that you are referencing. In this "I
solved the issue" email, you are referring to the previous email you
sent. But you did not respond to that email, so it is difficult to
follow what you're referring to.

I am sorry to be so picky and what I asked really are favors---they are
not hard rules so you won't get kicked out or anything if you don't
follow them :)

Best,

Scott

> E. Kaplan
> 
> On 06/18/2016 09:56 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:
> 
> Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 
> 
> 
> Hi Miguel, Kornel,
> it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
> In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling
> instead and added the following packages:
> perl-tk
> perl-Gtk2
> libxft-dev
> gtk+2.0
> gtk+3.0
> These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.
> 
> # ./install -gui
> and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
> I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without
> problem.
> 
> In the end I was urged to add 
> "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux"
> to my PATH.
> I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX
> Preferences'  as PATH prefix.
> 
> This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
> I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the 
> installed texlive.
> 
> 
> The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!
> 
> Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.
> 
> Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
> Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I 
> may
> also ask Scott Kostyshak.
> 
> All the best and a nice weekend!
> Michael
> 
> 
> Kornel
> 
> 
> --
> Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
> Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor
> Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,
> The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM
> Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
> Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
> The Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
> One Gustave Levy Place
> New York, NY, 10029
> 


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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[UD]

  
  
I can answer my own question:
If I start tlmgr from the terminal with:
tlmgr gui -font "helvetica 12" 
then tlmgr opens with a usable size font, and all is well.

E. Kaplan

On 06/18/2016 09:56 PM, Kornel Benko
  wrote:


  Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 

  
Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
instead and added the following packages:
perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
problem.

In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

  
  
This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the installed texlive.


  
The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
also ask Scott Kostyshak.

All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael


  
  
	Kornel


-- 
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor
Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM
Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
The Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029
  

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[UD]

  
  
This is a bit off the main line of this thread, but maybe someone
will be able to help--
I had installed TLMGR following the discussion here, and it
installed without a problem.  When I ran it, nothing happened, but
.   after I installed perl-tk and ran it again, the tlmgr gui
opened  up. However, on my Yoga 2 Pro HiDPI screen the gui was
useless-- everything is so tiny that I cannot read anything.  I
could not find preferences in the tlmgr menus-- does anyone know how
to make the tlmgr gui is usable with a high-resolution (3200X1800)
screen?
Thans,
E. Kaplan


On 06/18/2016 09:56 PM, Kornel Benko
  wrote:


  Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 

  
Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
instead and added the following packages:
perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
problem.

In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

  
  
This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the installed texlive.


  
The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
also ask Scott Kostyshak.

All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael


  
  
	Kornel


-- 
  

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 
> Hi Miguel, Kornel,
> it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
> In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
> instead and added the following packages:
> perl-tk
> perl-Gtk2
> libxft-dev
> gtk+2.0
> gtk+3.0
> These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.
> 
> # ./install -gui
> and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
> I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
> problem.
> 
> In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
> to my PATH.
> I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
> Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the 
installed texlive.

> The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!
> 
> Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.
> 
> Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
> Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
> also ask Scott Kostyshak.
> 
> All the best and a nice weekend!
> Michael
> 

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
instead and added the following packages:

perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
problem.


In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.


The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
also ask Scott Kostyshak.


All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael

On 06/18/2016 10:38 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 10:08:15, schrieb Michael Berger 

On 06/18/2016 09:16 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.

I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
gui. :-\

Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.


Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

"tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" (== 
ubuntu package names)


Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
the total number of 24.

The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.

I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael


Kornel

Thanks Kornel,
I have 'perl-tk 'installed  but 'libgtk2-perl' is not found in Mageia's
software manager.

Sorry, I cannot help here.


Somebody in a forum suggested that 'libxft-dev' was needed and I just
installed it.

This is a devel package, I don't see how this could help.

I would try to call 'tlmgr gui'. The possibly error messages may help to 
identify
missing perl packages.


Could I do a second installation

# ./install-tl -gui

over the first one without having to remove anything?

Why not. In a worst case you will have to remove anyway.


Michael

Kornel

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 10:08:15, schrieb Michael Berger 
> 
> On 06/18/2016 09:16 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 
> > 
> >> Hi Miguel, hi all
> >>
> >> I installed texlive2016 last night:
> >> # ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)
> >>
> >> The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
> >> continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.
> >>
> >> I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
> >> gui. :-\
> > Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.
> >
> >> Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
> >> proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!
> > "tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" 
> > (== ubuntu package names)
> >
> >> Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
> >> did not!?
> >> I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
> >> installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
> >> the total number of 24.
> >>
> >> The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
> >> you do that?!
> >> In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
> >> installed  out of another 16 xft packages.
> >>
> >> I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*
> >>
> >> Thanks an best,
> >> Michael
> >>
> > Kornel
> Thanks Kornel,
> I have 'perl-tk 'installed  but 'libgtk2-perl' is not found in Mageia's 
> software manager.

Sorry, I cannot help here.

> Somebody in a forum suggested that 'libxft-dev' was needed and I just 
> installed it.

This is a devel package, I don't see how this could help.

I would try to call 'tlmgr gui'. The possibly error messages may help to 
identify
missing perl packages.

> Could I do a second installation
> 
> # ./install-tl -gui
> 
> over the first one without having to remove anything?

Why not. In a worst case you will have to remove anyway.

> Michael

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

On 06/18/2016 09:16 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.

I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
gui. :-\

Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.


Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

"tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" (== 
ubuntu package names)


Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
the total number of 24.

The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.

I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael


Kornel

Thanks Kornel,
I have 'perl-tk 'installed  but 'libgtk2-perl' is not found in Mageia's 
software manager.
Somebody in a forum suggested that 'libxft-dev' was needed and I just 
installed it.


Could I do a second installation

# ./install-tl -gui

over the first one without having to remove anything?

Michael

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Kornel Benko]

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 
> Hi Miguel, hi all
> 
> I installed texlive2016 last night:
> # ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)
> 
> The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments 
> continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.
> 
> I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing 
> gui. :-\

Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.

> Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I 
> proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

"tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" (== 
ubuntu package names)

> Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine 
> did not!?
> I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is 
> installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of 
> the total number of 24.
> 
> The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did 
> you do that?!
> In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2' 
> installed  out of another 16 xft packages.
> 
> I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*
> 
> Thanks an best,
> Michael
> 

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments 
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.


I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing 
gui. :-\
Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I 
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!


Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine 
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is 
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of 
the total number of 24.


The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did 
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2' 
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.


I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael



On 06/17/2016 03:09 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

Yes, Tools > Preferences > PATH

Then reconfigure LyX and work.

Miguel



On 17/06/16 14:30, Michael Berger wrote:

Hola Buenas Noticias y muchas muchas gracias!

Your comment is very good news to me especially as it comes from a
person using Mageia5 like I do.
You basically did what I was planning.
But then you also added some very interesting extras that I was not
aware of and nobody before had mentioned.

A have one single question though re 'Preferences-PATH'.
Do you refer to the LyX Preferences Menu Tools > Preferences > Paths and
then write into PATH prefix ?

Of course I will revert to you after the work is done. However, I might
come up with more questions if something should go wrong ;-)

Michael

On 06/17/2016 12:03 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux

I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be observed/added/done 
etc.


Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Buenas Noticias]

Hi Michael:

Yes, Tools > Preferences > PATH

Then reconfigure LyX and work.

Miguel



On 17/06/16 14:30, Michael Berger wrote:

Hola Buenas Noticias y muchas muchas gracias!

Your comment is very good news to me especially as it comes from a
person using Mageia5 like I do.
You basically did what I was planning.
But then you also added some very interesting extras that I was not
aware of and nobody before had mentioned.

A have one single question though re 'Preferences-PATH'.
Do you refer to the LyX Preferences Menu Tools > Preferences > Paths and
then write into PATH prefix ?

Of course I will revert to you after the work is done. However, I might
come up with more questions if something should go wrong ;-)

Michael

On 06/17/2016 12:03 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux

I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be observed/added/done etc.

Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Michael Berger]

Hola Buenas Noticias y muchas muchas gracias!

Your comment is very good news to me especially as it comes from a 
person using Mageia5 like I do.

You basically did what I was planning.
But then you also added some very interesting extras that I was not 
aware of and nobody before had mentioned.


A have one single question though re 'Preferences-PATH'.
Do you refer to the LyX Preferences Menu Tools > Preferences > Paths and 
then write into PATH prefix ?


Of course I will revert to you after the work is done. However, I might 
come up with more questions if something should go wrong ;-)


Michael

On 06/17/2016 12:03 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write 
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux


I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be observed/added/done etc.

Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013

Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

[Buenas Noticias]

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write 
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux


I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be observed/added/done etc.

Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013