Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Mihai Dobrescu
I think that I read somewhere that Mandriva *started *as KDE centric. AFAIK, Gnome, KDE and some other popular DE are supported and Mandriva spent an important effort to make them look alike from the main menu and other customizations point of view. As file browsers I like Dolphin, Konqueror and I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
2010/10/7 Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com 在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:29:25 +0800, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com 寫道: No, konqueror is still useful as a file manager (some users don't like dolphin for some reason), also as a man pages viewer. Also it shares some code with dolphin (some

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 07 Oct 2010 19:11:45 Mihai Dobrescu wrote: I think that I read somewhere that Mandriva *started *as KDE centric. AFAIK, Gnome, KDE and some other popular DE are supported and Mandriva spent an important effort to make them look alike from the main menu and other customizations

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Sorteal
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 00:22 -0400, andré wrote: Sorteal a écrit : On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 04:01 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2010/10/7 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: I guess this information would have to come from someone from the core dev group. Just so that we know for sure.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Oliver Burger
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com schrieb am 2010-10-07 Thanks. That makes sense. Sorry, I was still thinking the Mandriva corporate way. So, we are pretty well left at the mercy of the devs interest with this regard. (I don't mean to sound negative, but more realist in saying this.) Do you know,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 7 October 2010 13:10, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010 à 23:18 -0400, Sorteal a écrit : On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 04:01 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2010/10/7 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: I guess this information would have to come from someone from the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 7 October 2010 13:50, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com wrote: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com schrieb am 2010-10-07 Thanks. That makes sense. Sorry, I was still thinking the Mandriva corporate way. So, we are pretty well left at the mercy of the devs interest with this regard. (I don't

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-07 Thread Renaud MICHEL
On jeudi 07 octobre 2010 at 09:15, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote : For me, Konqueror is the main application in my system. file manager and browser. May be for others too Yep, konqueror is my filemanager, web browser, (s)ftp client and quick previewer (with kparts integration). It is just great

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-06 Thread andré
Marc Paré a écrit : Usually the more the extensions you have the heavier/more-ram/more-startup-time firefox gets (and the last time I used AdBlock Plus, about 10 months ago, it leaked memory...). Also it's not useful all over, I think I can do without it if I have noscript installed, (now

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/7 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: I guess this information would have to come from someone from the core dev group. Just so that we know for sure. So, is Mageia going to be principally a KDE distro with offers during installation to install GNOME and other desktops? Or is it going to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-06 Thread andré
Sorteal a écrit : On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 04:01 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2010/10/7 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: I guess this information would have to come from someone from the core dev group. Just so that we know for sure. So, is Mageia going to be principally a KDE distro with

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-06 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 7 October 2010 02:20, Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com wrote: 在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:59:52 +0800, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com寫道: I am not sure anymore, but I thought I had read somewhere that Mageia would be a KDE-centric distro à la Mandriva, but still offer Gnome etc. if the user wished to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-06 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 7 October 2010 07:19, Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com wrote: 在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:14:46 +0800, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com寫道: IMHO, even for kde4 Konqueror shouldn't be the default web browser, it has a lot of quirks. Experienced users who want to use anything other than the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-06 Thread Marek Laane
2010/10/7 Kira elegant.pega...@gmail.com 在 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:14:46 +0800, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com 寫道: IMHO, even for kde4 Konqueror shouldn't be the default web browser, it has a lot of quirks. Experienced users who want to use anything other than the defaults do so all the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-05 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 5 October 2010 04:43, Hoyt Duff hoytd...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: If upstream can't accomplish this in their apps, how do you expect downstream to do it? Easy. Both upstream and downstream should obey the $BROWSER

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-05 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2010/10/2 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, those that don't do not care enough. Reasonable. Can also be applied to other such

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-04 Thread Richard Walker
But are we always knowledgeable enough to be able to set up the system to use our choice? I confess to being a Mandriva Linux user for only 10 years but I have been an Opera user (and purchaser) for a year or two before that. I ALWAYS have difficulty when removing Firefox and replacing it with

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-04 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 3 October 2010 20:19, Richard Walker richard.j.wal...@ntlworld.com wrote: But are we always knowledgeable enough to be able to set up the system to use our choice? I confess to being a Mandriva Linux user for only 10 years but I have been an Opera user (and purchaser) for a year or two

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-04 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: If upstream can't accomplish this in their apps, how do you expect downstream to do it? Easy. Both upstream and downstream should obey the $BROWSER environment variable. Yeah, should :) Then you should file a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 02 oktober 2010 12:46:24 schreef Michael Scherer: Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 13:53 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : [...] So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, those that

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Mihai Dobrescu
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, those that don't do not care enough. -- Michael Scherer True, I'm just lazy, I will always use FF and I would have liked to have it setup at OS install. A choice

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Marc Paré
Majority of users do not want choice. Those of us who want choice are knowledgeable enough to find out how to install $AlternativeSoftware. Salut, Sinner I agree with this statement. Human nature, being what it is, will always look for the shortest and easiest route. Marc

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 1 October 2010 04:07, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote: While we are at it, why don't we rather include AdblockPlus enabled by default with EasyList+EasyPrivacy filters for Firefox? Blocking off ads and tracking scripts makes Firefox a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 1 October 2010 10:44, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Which extionsion a user wants to instaall should be left to the user's decision. Make the install easy but do not install any extensions by default. I've never used those extensions, except the developper bar. Somebody

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 1 October 2010 10:44, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Which extionsion a user wants to instaall should be left to the user's decision. Make the install easy but do not install any extensions by default. I've never used

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread atilla ontas
2010/10/1 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com: 2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 1 October 2010 10:44, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Which extionsion a user wants to instaall should be left to the user's decision. Make the install easy but do not

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-09-30 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 18:32 -0400, sorteal a écrit : I'm curious if Chromium has been considered as the default browser? With KDE seeming to be the DE of choice and Firefox having a less than stellar record with KDE integration I find Chromium to be an appealing alternative to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-09-30 Thread Robert Xu
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 18:34, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 18:32 -0400, sorteal a écrit : I'm curious if Chromium has been considered as the default browser? With KDE seeming to be the DE of choice and Firefox having a less than stellar record with KDE

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-09-30 Thread Tux99
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, sorteal wrote: I'm curious if Chromium has been considered as the default browser? With KDE seeming to be the DE of choice and Firefox having a less than stellar record with KDE integration I find Chromium to be an appealing alternative to Firefox. Just curious.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-09-30 Thread Tux99
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Ahmad Samir wrote: A bit off-topic, but first you should answer pterjan's question here[1]: “Look at the code and show me a place where any URL is sent to Google.” [1] http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-08/msg00461.php Well, given the size of the source code of