Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with aliases

2003-01-02 Thread Steve Burling
and can't help with Postfix. Any clues? To which I reply: I can't remember for sure if this is required, but did you restart Postfix after adding the aliases? -- Steve --- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman2.1.2 ?

2003-07-22 Thread Steve Burling
. Is it just that you want to see more at once, or what am I missing? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman v 2.0.13

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Burling
and installing software on Unix, you've got a learning hump to get over. You'll need an administrative id to do the installations, too. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard

Re: [Mailman-Users] Please help...

2003-09-16 Thread Steve Burling
reply: Yes. Read the documentation. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Steve Burling
... File your report there. To which I reply: Why file a bug report on Mailman, when the bug is in Outhouse? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Steve Burling
use Mailman. End of story. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Re: [Mailman-Users] Too Many Headers

2004-01-24 Thread Steve Burling
and select Get Info. 3. In the Eudora Info window that opens, turn down the disclosure triangle next to Plug-ins: 4. Check the box next to Esoteric Settings 6.0. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSR

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive and attachment problem

2004-02-20 Thread Steve Burling
pipermail there properly (by my definition of properly, at least :-) sets the attachment aside, leaving a link in the archive. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street

[Mailman-Users] Attachment header mangling

2004-03-04 Thread Steve Burling
the header? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

[Mailman-Users] Attachment header mangling

2004-03-04 Thread Steve Burling
the header? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attachment header mangling

2004-03-04 Thread Steve Burling
Ack! My apologies for the double posting about this -- I read too hurriedly a rejection notice that claimed I wasn't allowed to post to the list, and didn't notice that it was from some other machine. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University

Re: [Mailman-Users] running qrunner by hand

2004-03-29 Thread Steve Burling
? Seems like the error message is giving you a clue... -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104

Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce Only

2004-04-17 Thread Steve Burling
off this 'feature' if you don't use it. (except by going backwards to an older version of Mailman, or by using another MLM). To which I reply: Make that There's just no way to turn off this 'feature' that's acceptable to me. You've got the source -- change it however you like. -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] DSL

2004-05-12 Thread Steve Burling
the documentation. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Re: [Mailman-Users] Correct Terminology for Mailman

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Burling
--On Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:55 PM -0400 Brendan Chard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are quick one or two word descriptors that folks are using to refer to their mailman lists? To which I reply: Mailing List. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[Mailman-Users] Strange looping notification

2004-06-18 Thread Steve Burling
because it matched a SPAM filter. Any advice gratefully accepted... -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor

[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server

2004-07-07 Thread Steve Burling
with the correct permissions and can interrupt lists' operation. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104

[Mailman-Users] Disappearing SPAM filters

2005-01-26 Thread Steve Burling
, they appear to be correctly saved, but if we then return to that page some time later, the rule has mysteriously disappeared. Any idea why this would be happening? Mailman 2.1.4, running on Solaris, for what it's worth. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing SPAM filters

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Burling
the rule from the list. Could this be the problem? To which I reply: No, I just mis-spoke. Discard is, indeed, the desired action. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing SPAM filters

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Burling
applied the patch to fix this, which Mark Sapiro kindly pointed me to: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1020102group_id=103atid=300103 As always, thanks to the group for the great support! -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University

Re: [Mailman-Users] bug in Mailman when accessing Private Archives

2005-02-17 Thread Steve Burling
structure? It seems absolutely guaranteed to cause problems such as this. (Feel free to respond off-list. I'm sincerely curious about this -- ever since I started looking at Python, this has bugged me.) -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Burling
in there? And that that screwed things up? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch error

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Burling
tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mail What's so hard about re-running configure? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX

Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch error

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Burling
see the mailman FAQ at: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Steve Burling
--On June 15, 2005 6:20:00 PM +0100 Andy Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I differ from your view. I think you've made your position clear. John's made his position clear. How about if the two of you take the rest of this discussion offline? -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.5 - FQDN Question

2005-07-21 Thread Steve Burling
else (Mark?) -- you've got a bad value set for DEFAULT_URL_HOST. Fixing that in mm_cfg.py will probably help. YMMV; I'm merely a dabbler in the mailman configuration business. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSR

Re: [Mailman-Users] query re message has implicit destination(devils advocate!)

2006-08-31 Thread Steve Burling
made that abundantly clear. Fine. We believe that you disagree. But based on my (rather more than I care to contemplate) years in this business, I think you're wrong. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSR

Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML Newsletter Setup

2006-09-08 Thread Steve Burling
mail out. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with spam filter rules disappearing on a regular basis

2006-12-06 Thread Steve Burling
to a number of lists To which I reply: I can't remember for sure when this patch made it into the mainline code, but it sure sounds like what you're seeing: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1020102group_id=103atid=300103 -- Steve Burling

[Mailman-Users] Upgrade problem

2007-03-04 Thread Steve Burling
allowed me to drop back and punt when I hit the error. bin/check_perms only complained about some directories and files that the NAS creates, so I don't think it's a permission problem. All hints gratefully accepted... -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade problem

2007-03-04 Thread Steve Burling
--On March 4, 2007 11:08:30 AM -0800 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Burling wrote: Is there a way I can un-inhibit printing of traceback and other system info? Yes. Edit the scripts/driver file and change STEALTH_MODE = 1 to STEALTH_MODE = 0 To which I reply: Thanks

[Mailman-Users] Which parts of mailman are platform-dependent?

2007-03-11 Thread Steve Burling
on SPARC and our web server is running Linux on Intel, then assuming that the two machines share $MAILMAN_HOME, I just have to ensure that the wrapper is a SPARC executable, while the cgi-bin files are Intel executables. Or have I missed something? Anything else that will care? -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Which parts of mailman are platform-dependent?

2007-03-11 Thread Steve Burling
server hardware, and I'd rather think about this ahead of time than sit there that day, saying, Well, sh*t, that's not good... -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street

Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration question

2007-03-19 Thread Steve Burling
but one had been flagged as SPAM, so I used bin/inject with the one .msg file, and sh*t-canned the rest of the files. Thanks for the confirmation that that was what I needed to do. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSR

[Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Burling
restart followed by bin/unshunt Is there any downside to making this change? I notice that iso-8859-1 is the standard charset for the majority of the languages listed in Defaults.py (As you can probably guess, I'm seeing the above error...) -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Burling
that something is wrong with a message in the list's .mbox file, which is confusing things. Is that a reasonable guess? If so, is there a reasonable way to figure out *what* message is causing the problem (it's a *big* mailbox)? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Burling
--On April 17, 2007 6:54:05 PM -0700 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or a user in Mailman's group To which I reply: And this is the answer to the originally-posted question; I do all my Mailman management tasks as myself, by virtue of the fact that I'm in the mailman group. -- Steve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Burling
being inappropriately denied. This is not a given in NFS server environments. To which I reply: It's a given in well-managed NFS environments. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-19 Thread Steve Burling
major problems. To which I reply: That's to bad. In the nearly thirty years that I've been doing this sort of stuff, I've come across a few. I work in (and help manage) one now. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSR

[Mailman-Users] data/pending.pck

2007-04-25 Thread Steve Burling
) What's it used for? 2) Can I safely delete this copy, assuming that it'll get re-created as necessary? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman with Apache Tomcat

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Burling
ProxyRequests Off Proxy * Order deny,allow Allow from all /Proxy Location /xxx ProxyPass ajp://localhost:8009/xxx /Location -- cut here -- You can have multiple Location /path blocks, but for your purposes, it might be sufficient to just pass off /web. -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Steve Burling
require approval or confirm and approve, then it doesn't matter if other subscription options are available -- unless you approve subscription requests I think that they'll just quietly time out. Is that not enough? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] Low level smtp error: Server not connected

2007-05-29 Thread Steve Burling
--On May 29, 2007 10:25:22 AM -0400 Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody else use Postfix 2.4? To which I reply: For what it's worth, my (extremely small, low-traffic) home Mailman install (2.1.9) uses Postfix 2.4.1 with no problems. -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounced messages with Mailman 2.1 and Postfix2.5 Virtual Mailboxes

2007-06-10 Thread Steve Burling
lists, in which case the MTA variable should be set to None. To which I reply: Given the number of times that this comes up as a point of confusion, maybe that comment should read: ...in which case the MTA variable should be set to None (not 'None'). -- Steve Burling

[Mailman-Users] Query about low-level SMTP errors

2007-09-28 Thread Steve Burling
trying to figure out how to make sendmail only refuse connections on the non-localhost interface. Although if anyone knows the magic knob to do that, I would appreciate a hint.) -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSR

Re: [Mailman-Users] Posts to list returned

2007-11-01 Thread Steve Burling
count is another hint.) -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

[Mailman-Users] Hint: mmdsr.sh and Mac OS X Leopard

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Burling
'sort -k POS1,POS2'. Of course, In that form POS1 and POS2 are 1-based rather than 0-based. So the 'sort' part of mmdsr.sh line above becomes, instead, $SORT -n -k 2 Hope this saves someone some head scratching... -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] bots subscribing to lists via web forms to avoidmember-only restrictions

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Burling
--On January 16, 2008 11:21:41 AM -0700 LuKreme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There really should be. To which I reply: It's open source. Start coding and submit a patch. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSR

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

2008-01-29 Thread Steve Burling
... To which I reply: I love comments like this. If it can't be too difficult..., I suggest you put on your Python programming hat, and get coding. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734

Re: [Mailman-Users] managing pending subscriptions and confirmations

2008-02-04 Thread Steve Burling
that mail through UM's relatively aggressive bad mailer filters. The mail wasn't getting marked as spam, but the behavior of Constant Contact's mailer was causing red flags at our end that caused their mail to be blocked. -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why am I being ignored???

2008-05-24 Thread Steve Burling
your original message at 5:37pm PST on the Friday before a holiday weekend, and at 6:10am the following morning, you complain that no one as helped you yet? Yeah, that makes sense. Don't want much for free, do you? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] From status is coming incorrect from the msg circulated to mailing list

2008-06-05 Thread Steve Burling
] Please help me in identgying my mistake in configuring mailman or mailing lists settings. To which I reply: You haven't mis-configured the list; this is an Outlook problem. See: http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/From+field+displayed+by+Microsoft+Outlook -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

2008-06-19 Thread Steve Burling
arrive line-wrapped at my end. The wider I made my mail window, the longer the lines got. Well, until I got it about 60% of my 2560-pixel wide screen, and then each of the four paragraphs in your text was on one line, so further widening made no more difference. -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Burling
are under the impression that Microsoft cares about how their software interacts with non-Microsoft products. They don't. You should just be using all Microsoft products, then everything would be good and right. Drink the Kool-Aid, Doug. -- Steve Burlingmailto

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Burling
instead. You'll see one of those messages for *everything* that cron runs -- you're just seeing the common ones because they run so often. I've written a bunch of launchd.plist files for all the various Mailman cron jobs; if you want them, let me know. -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Burling
these and makes any significant improvements, please share back! -- Steve Burlingmailto:s...@umich.edu University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Re: [Mailman-Users] Taking a stab at Mailman on Mac OS X

2009-11-26 Thread Steve Burling
. -- Steve Burlingmailto:s...@umich.edu University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error running bin/mailmanctl restart

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Burling
should get you pointed in the right direction. -- Steve Burlingmailto:s...@umich.edu University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error running bin/mailmanctl restart

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Burling
. -- Steve Burlingmailto:s...@umich.edu University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archives query.

2010-01-08 Thread Steve Burling
--On January 9, 2010 11:46:05 AM +1100 John Fitzsimons jo...@net2000.com.au wrote: From looking at the FAQ it appears that one can only remove mailing list archives if one has shell access. Is that correct ? If it is then are there any plans for us CPanel users to be able to remove archives

Re: [Mailman-Users] Question

2010-01-11 Thread Steve Burling
about hosting the list for you. -- Steve Burlingmailto:s...@umich.edu University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

[Mailman-Users] Anything to look out for in a 2.1.9 to 2.1.14-1 upgrade?

2012-01-16 Thread Steve Burling
Short version: Are there any gotchas in upgrading from 2.1.9 to 2.1.14-1 that I need to look out for? I am, as usual in these cases, looking for the most expedient way to fix a problem I've brought on myself. Some more details... We run the mailman processes on our mail server, a 64-bit Red

Re: [Mailman-Users] Anything to look out for in a 2.1.9 to 2.1.14-1upgrade?

2012-01-16 Thread Steve Burling
On 1/16/12 12:09 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: You can fix this by removing the email directory from /usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib so that Mailman will use the Python 2.6 email package instead of Mailman's which is not compatible, but this won't fix all the Mailman 2.1.9/Python 2.6.x

Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom Pages

2013-06-02 Thread Steve Burling
On Jun 2, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Janice Boothe nursejan...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe because I am not fully aware of il8n but I fail to see how that is an issue. I know fo other software that uses end user selectable language sets and is highly customizable. Also the fact that a lot of the rest

Re: [Mailman-Users] My first time setting up mailman, some misc questions/comments

2016-04-14 Thread Steve Burling
On 14 Apr 2016, at 12:03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: If you're working with Mailman 2, dubious. There may never be another release of Mailman 2 (but Mark is authoritative). And Mac OS X has been somewhat unkind to us (Apple's Mailman has been a long-term source of support requests to which we

Re: [Mailman-Users] list sponsorships

2017-05-15 Thread Steve Burling
On 15 May 2017, at 10:29, Matt Morgan wrote: Has anybody experimented with (or succeeded with) any form of mailman list sponsorship? A nonprofit professional assocation I work for asked me for advice about it. If there are current examples I'd be curious to see them. If the nonprofit is a