Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bryan Harrison wrote:

Since implementing Mailman under OS X Server 10.5.7, I've been seeingÂ…

Jul 16 11:00:00 server-name com.apple.launchd[1]  
(0x1029d0.cron[1618]): Could not setup Mach task special port 9: (os/ 
kern) no access

in the syslog, every 5 minutes, forever.

I've traced it down to Mailman's gate_news chron job.  I gather this  
relates to polling news servers (which I'm not doing), but beyond that  
I'm at sea.


I have little idea how you would debug the actual error. The above
message is a Mac OS or Darwin message. If you have no lists that are
gating messages from usenet, cron/gate_news does virtually nothing
other than creating a lock file. If it has a problem with that, it
logs it in Mailman's 'fromusenet' log.

Do Mailman's other cron jobs run OK?

If you aren't gating news, you can remove or comment the gate_news
entry in Mailman's crontab.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Burling
--On July 16, 2009 11:44:57 AM -0700 Bryan Harrison 
br...@bryanharrison.com wrote:



Since implementing Mailman under OS X Server 10.5.7, I've been seeing…

Jul 16 11:00:00 server-name com.apple.launchd[1] (0x1029d0.cron[1618]):
Could not setup Mach task special port 9: (os/kern) no access

in the syslog, every 5 minutes, forever.

I've traced it down to Mailman's gate_news chron job.  I gather this
relates to polling news servers (which I'm not doing), but beyond that
I'm at sea.

Anybody?


To which I reply:

This is because Apple has deprecated cron, and really wants you to use 
launchd instead.  You'll see one of those messages for *everything* that 
cron runs -- you're just seeing the common ones because they run so often.


I've written a bunch of launchd.plist files for all the various Mailman 
cron jobs; if you want them, let me know.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Bryan Harrison

Steve,

I was hoping to be polite and avoid the why is Mailman inflicting  
this antiquated utility on me? implication.  ;)


You have explained why I've no other such errors - there are no other  
crons on any of my servers.  All my customizations are done via launchd.


I'd be very grateful if you'd like to share your launchd.plist  
efforts.  Replacing Mailman's crons went on my list as soon as I  
understood what was happening.  It'd be a pleasure to eliminate the  
crons, since they strike me as inelegant by comparison.


Thanks,
Bryan



To which I reply:

This is because Apple has deprecated cron, and really wants you to  
use launchd instead.  You'll see one of those messages for  
*everything* that cron runs -- you're just seeing the common ones  
because they run so often.


I've written a bunch of launchd.plist files for all the various  
Mailman cron jobs; if you want them, let me know.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Burling

--On July 16, 2009 4:57:24 PM -0400 Rob penng...@mac.com wrote:


I would also appreciate your launchd.plists! It's a task I've been
putting off doing myself...


To which I reply:

You can grab the tarball here:

   http://www.burling.org/files/mailman-launchd.tgz

If anyone grabs these and makes any significant improvements, please share 
back!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Rob
I would also appreciate your launchd.plists! It's a task I've been  
putting off doing myself...


Thanks!

-Rob McLear



On Jul 16, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Bryan Harrison wrote:


Steve,

I was hoping to be polite and avoid the why is Mailman inflicting  
this antiquated utility on me? implication.  ;)


You have explained why I've no other such errors - there are no  
other crons on any of my servers.  All my customizations are done  
via launchd.


I'd be very grateful if you'd like to share your launchd.plist  
efforts.  Replacing Mailman's crons went on my list as soon as I  
understood what was happening.  It'd be a pleasure to eliminate the  
crons, since they strike me as inelegant by comparison.


Thanks,
Bryan



To which I reply:

This is because Apple has deprecated cron, and really wants you to  
use launchd instead.  You'll see one of those messages for  
*everything* that cron runs -- you're just seeing the common ones  
because they run so often.


I've written a bunch of launchd.plist files for all the various  
Mailman cron jobs; if you want them, let me know.


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647.8700

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:06:21 -0400 schrieb/wrote Steve Burling:

--On July 16, 2009 4:57:24 PM -0400 Rob penng...@mac.com wrote:

 I would also appreciate your launchd.plists! It's a task I've been
 putting off doing myself...

To which I reply:

You can grab the tarball here:

http://www.burling.org/files/mailman-launchd.tgz

If anyone grabs these and makes any significant improvements, please share 
back!

thanks a lot. I  see that also in my logs since quite some time.

cheers,
Matthias

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9

2009-07-16 Thread Bryan Harrison

Steve,

Careful...  You're going to end up with a fan club.  At first glance,  
it looks like you've done a great job.


Thanks much,
Bryan

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