Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Mascot

2017-04-27 Thread Dave
Yes, but let us not take ourselves to seriously.

Once upon a time everyone thought that weird little little "Tux" thingy
was frivolous, but today major corporations, governments and evil
establishment 3 letter agencies take it and embrace it as their weapon
(Oops! tool) of choice.

No doubt the Oracle BoD is terribly embarrassed by that stupid little
Java "Duke" character.  Not to ignore the sleepless nights Don Trump and
the entire US nation must have about using the representation of a
(approaching extinction) "dicky bird" as their national mascot.

As someone who has spent time in remote locations inhabited by these
birds, I can tell you first-hand they are determined, tenacious and
feisty "little beggars", a bit like that bunch of "rebellious rabble"
who started LO/TDF.

That said, my vote (if I had one) would go to the designer who could
make something out of the gazelle concept.

IMNSHO opinion the required skill here is to come up with something
representative and if it has a humorous  aspect, so much the better. We
bend over backwards to have a website landing page that is "all
encompassing" with terms such as "Fun Project" and "Fantastic People",
so why should our proposed mascot not reflect those same values and
principles?

Dave

On 27.04.2017 17:29, Sophia Schroeder wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> please let us take up this issue seriously. I for my own like fairies,
> but I wouldn't come up with that as a serious suggestion.
>
>>  Tim-L--Elmira-NY <webmas...@krackedpress.com> hat am 27. April 2017 um 
>> 17:11 geschrieben:
>>
>> I love penguins and butterflies.
>>
>> Rock-Hoppers are my favorite penguin.
>>
>> I use rock-hoppers when I need an animal or bird in a comic poster.
>>
>> With this penguin for a logo, you can easily know that it is not the Tux
>> penguin logo.
>>
>> On 04/26/2017 09:55 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>> > > 
>>> Hi :)
>>> How about a Rock-hopper penguin?
>>>
>>> It's very cute with orangey-red-yellow tufts out of jet-black ears. 
>>> They
>>> are impressively determined buggers. Despite the comedy-value of 
>>> the way
>>> they waddle and bounce they achieve incredible feats of athleticism 
>>> such as
>>> jumping higher than their own height from a standing start. Each 
>>> time they
>>> fall off a cliff they bounce from rock to rock at the bottom but 
>>> then get
>>> up again and follow the same route until it inevitably yet 
>>> remarkably
>>> reaches the top.
>>>
>>> As Dr Who said "Penguins are cool".
>>> Regards from
>>> Tom :)
>>>
>>> > 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Mascot

2017-04-27 Thread Dave
On 27.04.2017 19:40, Dave wrote

Just to clarify and put may last post into context.

Where i said "inhabited by these birds", I meant Rock-Hopper Penguins,
not North American Bald Eagles.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Dave Johnson
Can Libo add opxml imoport function?

Dave Johnson

On Oct 26, 2010 3:31 PM, Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com wrote:

 
 

 Sorry maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but if you are
 suggesting that any...
Right - what I was trying for, not well either, was that somme items
might have LibreOffice as the main subject, and TDF, ODF in somewhat
subservient focus.

Another item could be totally different, where the focus is TDF and
LibreOffice, ODF ae more in the background.

I'm just saying that when looking at this, that ODF is always in the
mix.

So I think we, you and I, are on the same page in that thought.

//drew



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Dave Johnson
Can a plug-in be made to save OOXML format for LibO for a short term solution?
On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Frank Esposito wrote:

 * It is ugly
 
 This is a very subjective call, so not worth consideration outside a UX
 needs
 improvement in some areas
 
 
 UX can make or break a product, just ask Steve Jobs and therefore IS worth
 consideration. Someone even brought up this point on the first conference
 call (sorry I cannot recall your name but you were correct)
 
 
 
 * It is slow
 
 Define slow, I have 3.2.1 on clients machines and is grease lightning fast,
 certainly faster than opening up all 4 of MS applications at the same time.
 
 
 this is subjective as not everyone has the same machine as you or tour
 clients, I was merely summerizing the responses form my own personal polling
 of why people  use M$ office over OO. performance is an issue, this is
 known. compared to MS, it is comparable, but they are the team on the field
 right now...
 
 
 
 
 * It is clunky
 
 Define clunky in specific terms
 
 
 clunky and refined are in fact subjective terms, but once again Steve Jobs
 and his buddies over at Apple understand this.
 
 I wil try though:
 windows95: clunky
 OS X: not so much
 
 terminal:clunk
 gnome: not so much
 
 another example of clunky, I can insert page numbers by clicking 1 button in
 MSO,
 
 OO, not so much.
 
 
 
 * It has issues with MS doc and docx files (yes I know MS formats in
 an insane way and does not follow standards)
 
 Not as many issues as MSO has with ODF, and LibO/OOo is standards compliant
 
 
 yes but the world uses MSO so that point is moot if were are trying to get
 them to use LO/OO. and the average user or business IT person usually
 does not even know what  standards compliant even means. All they care
 about is their employment agency only accepts a resume in word format
 
 
 
 When someone using OO/LO tries to save in a docx format and gets this:
 
 [image: LibreOffice 3.png]
 
 hosted link of pic in case the pic does not come through:
 http://imm.io/1NCo
 
 
 they will not use LO/OO in the future.
 
 As a professional writer, I cannot use OOo because my clients only accept M$
 word docs, they don't care about standards, they care about what they can
 use to get their business done and most of them use MSO. And since we are
 trying to take their M$ world away form them, we have to play their game for
 now.
 
 
 
 
 unrefined
 Subjective again define
 
 
 if you want people to use your product, you must take subjective ideas into
 account. look what refinement did for the iPhone
 
 
 
 
 
 As someone who has worked in corporate IT in the U.S., and now in
 ecommence for a major U.S. corporation,
 
 This is the problem, :)  I'll get to this further on.
 
 not sure what you mean, is it a problem I work there or is corp America the
 problem (in either case I agree, nonetheless I am not sure your point)
 
 
 
 
 here are my recommendations:
 
 * LO needs to match every single MS Office function, and then provide
 what MS Office is missing
 
 It does that already,  Forms and PDF functionality just an example.
 
 not 100%, saving in MS format is huge,also  there is no reliable  grammar
 check (yes people in the U.S. use it) the review system is not as refined as
 MSO
 and as previously discussed in this list, there is no bibliography/reference
 manager, included in MSO 2007 and 2010, important for academia
 
 
 
 
 * The interface needs to become refined (think iphone refinement),
 maybe even adding the dreaded ribbon or option to switch between the
 two types)
 
 I agree with this, except for the ribbon. Iwould suggest that LibO/OOo
 still
 has greater market share than MSO2007/2010 ouside of Educational
 institutions
 
 
 I agree the ribbon is ugly (more subjectivity, sorry) and menus are better,
 but if we are trying to capture market from business users who just got used
 to the ribbon, it should be an option to have.
 
 
 
 
 * MS Office filters and converters need to be perfected
 Perfect is non achievable and a moving target
 
 
 
 no but compatible should mean compatible  and agian we are trying to take
 market form them, this is not a technical wish it is a marketing wish.
 
 
 
 
 * Investigate  a revision control system like such as Sharepoint or
 Google
 docs
 
 This I agree with, I'd like to see a function in the installer of a
 business
 version that gives the option of calling up an install of O3 spaces
 
 
 
 
 
 Not sure why this, OOo is available in many more languages than MS and I'm
 pretty sure LibO will be there soon as well, spell check works well as far
 as
 I can see, grammar checkers are bad voodoo and are more often wrong than
 right, however they can serve a purpose.  If you study document production
 work flows by someone who is a professional at the game, not an IT person
 who
 rarely has any idea about producing richly formatted documents, you will
 find
 that grammar checkers are more often than not used as suggesters of
 

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Open Source For America - Education Working Group - Hello World - kind of thing (y mah-bobby)

2010-10-28 Thread Dave Johnson
I would like to produce a video like the one at Firefox, but need some input 
for the script. Can you help with brain-storming?

On Oct 28, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/ed-21st-cent
 
 made a few edits - again feel free to edit or comment
 
 drew
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] someone willing to interview some developers ?

2010-10-29 Thread Dave Johnson
No problem. When is the deadline?
On Oct 29, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:

 Hi Dave!
 
 Am Freitag, den 29.10.2010, 12:59 -0500 schrieb Dave Johnson:
 I can.
 
 Dave Johnson
 
 Great  thanks Dave! I don't know whether Charles had this in mind, but
 I enjoyed the KDE interviews from time to time. Do you think about
 something like that?
 http://dot.kde.org/search/node/interview
 
 Cheers,
 Christoph
 
 On Oct 29, 2010 9:19 AM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 While talking with some people, we had the idea of making some interview
 with developers working on LibreOffice to publish on our site/wiki.
 No long stories, but cute, catchy you know. And regularly, e.g. every one or
 two weeks.
 
 Is there anyone on this list with maybe a little experience but anyhow joy
 in doing such interviews?
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Video

2010-11-02 Thread Dave Johnson
I like that idea.

Dave Johnson

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What would be very cool would be to come up with something funny that would
have the chance to go viral on YouTube.

Maybe something along the lines of someone sitting around with 400 dollars
wondering what they can do with it.  and unstood of buying MS Office, they
download LibreOffice and but a couple really cool gadgets with the money.

Just throwing out an idea, it seems like viral videos not only get YouTube
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Video

2010-11-02 Thread Dave Johnson
I like this idea... but is sends the wrong message.

Can you give me another idea like this? I'll try to think up a cool idea too. 
The viral vid is a great PR tool.

On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:05 AM, James Walker wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Christoph and Dave,
 
 On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
 I'm sorry to start a new thread ... but I am unable to find the original
 one. Dave proposed to make a short film like the Meet Firefox video.
 And as far as I know, he asked for some storyboard ideas ...
 
 Dave, just some ideas:
 * Content based on the initial and universal LibO presentation
   (in progress)
 * Unique features of LibO (is there any feature list yet?)
 * Compatibility with ODF
 * What's unique for the LibO community? (if people care about
   that, maybe an additional video?)
 * Where to download it? (some people just don't know ...)
 
 For the others: Dave already linked a proposal from the Marketing ideas
 page. I refined the section a bit (e.g. link to the Firefox video), so
 enjoy:
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Web-page_video_similar_to_the_.22Meet_Firefox.22
 .
 
 @ Dave: Thanks! If we can do something like that ... just great. It
 would be insanely cool to have something ready for LibO 3.3! So, after
 joining the interview thing, is there time to do something like that?
 
 Any other thoughts? Dave, should the ideas be added to the wiki - that
 would make it easier to track it (especially for you)?
 
 An intro video would be great! From the perspective of potential new users,
 I think it would be really appealing to have a video intro and welcome
 message that we promote in a very visible location or locations.
 
 In fact, in wireframes I put together for the future LibO homepage, I
 suggested a video of this type, right next to the download button. (I have
 attached the wireframe to the wiki as an ODG, but I'll make a PNG and put it
 in the page for easy viewing momentarily:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Site_IA_and_Wireframes )
 
 Go for it!
 
 -Ben
 
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 Maybe something along the lines of someone sitting around with 400 dollars
 wondering what they can do with it.  and unstood of buying MS Office, they
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 Just throwing out an idea, it seems like viral videos not only get YouTube
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 James Walker
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Ad Campaign: LibreOffice is...

2010-11-05 Thread Dave Johnson

On Nov 5, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Dave Johnson wrote:

 LibreOffice is... FUN!libreoffice_ad.jpg
 
 We wrote a short story about our dog. LibreOffice made it fun and simple!
 
 __
 
 This is a proposal for a ad campaign that could be displayed on the 
 LibreOffice YouTube channel. We need a YouTube channel official channel for 
 LibreOffice ASAP.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Ad Campaign: LibreOffice is...

2010-11-05 Thread Dave Johnson
Check out the ideas page @ wiki
On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Andy Brown wrote:

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 On 11/5/2010 2:14 PM, Dave Johnson wrote:
 Any thoughts on my art?
 Dave: I didn't see any artwork attached. Are you sure you sent it along
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 No sure why but these list do not allow attachments, been that way since day 
 one.
 
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Re: [certification] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LO/OOo certification

2010-11-07 Thread Dave Johnson
Ian, I wanted to get certified via the theingots.org web-page but alas I 
cannot. I am in the United States. How cam I get certified so I can effectively 
market LibO here in the United States? I want to offer training and support to 
my customers.

What can I do?

On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Ian wrote:

 On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 13:14 -0500, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
 Can folks outside of Europe help?
 
 Is there going to be any remote-participation capacity? At least a
 skype group call with a mic and speakers in the room?
 
 - Evan Leibovitch
 
 Hi Evan,
 
 We want everyone possible to participate. The main reason for holding
 the meeting in Berlin is that it is central to more people who have a
 chance of getting EU funding to pay their expenses to attend. It would
 be great to get people from other parts of the world to attend but
 unfortunately we have no finance at this point to pay for expenses. We
 certainly can have skype at minimum. I'm waiting for Manfred Reiter to
 come back on the venue. As soon as we know I'll work out what conference
 facilities we can do - Maybe a video stream to the web. I'll also draw
 up a draft agenda so others can contribute too.
 
 I reiterate that we want people in Canada, USA, Mexico, Brazil, India,
 Africa, Australia etc etc. This will only work as a means of
 significantly funding developers if we can make it a global effort and
 we can devise a means of sustaining the people doing the training and
 assessing.
 
 On 30 October 2010 17:53, Ian ian.ly...@theingots.org wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 15:34 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 17:47 +0100, Ian wrote:
 http://theingots.org/community/LO_OOo_cert
 
 Hi Ian,
 
 I think what you have been doing is wonderful and really think you are
 correct to pursue this as including members from both the OOo and LO
 communities.
 
 The logic is that we will be certificating a common set of skills and
 knowledge so there is no real reason to make a distinction. We might
 also do K-Office :-).
 
 The thing is to try and get to anyone who is interested in training and
 related support so if anyone reading this says this isn't for me
 please consider if you know someone who might be interested please pass
 the message on. Networking is the power of the community!
 
 Best wishes for your success,
 
 Thanks for your kind words.
 
 Drew
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing suggestion: enable screenplay formatting with LibreOffice

2010-11-14 Thread Dave Johnson
i am all fir it.

Dave Johnson

On Nov 13, 2010 10:45 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:

On Sat Nov 13 2010 18:17:41 GMT-0800 (PST)  Alan C. Baird wrote:

 Proposal for significantly enla...
Alan,

I want to applaud you for the work spent on ScreenWriter(R) and other
templates for OOo and by extension LibreOffice but I personally do not feel
that adding another extension to the, already bloated download, is going to
help anyone.  I feel that those that are already there are hurting LibO.
 Not everyone has access to high bandwidth internet and we do not want to
limit any more that we can help.

My 2 cents.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Regional LibO CD/DVD fulfillment

2010-12-08 Thread Dave Johnson
I am willing to burn CD / DVD's for customers in the US for a minimal fee of 
$4.99 USD per order. If this is permissible. I am located in Tennessee, USA. 
This would take care of folks with dial-up internet connections.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Regional LibO CD/DVD fulfillment

2010-12-09 Thread Dave Johnson
please put my info on the site.

Dave Johnson

On Dec 8, 2010 10:37 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:

Le 2010-12-08 21:40, Benjamin Horst a écrit :



 On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Dave Johnson wrote:

 I am willing to burn CD / DVD's for custo...
Thanks a lot Dave and Ben. Yes, we should have a spot for those who will
burn CD/DVD version of LibO. We'll have to make sure that we put one on the
Drupal site.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Regional LibO CD/DVD fulfillment

2010-12-09 Thread Dave Johnson
i will have it up later today. thanks.

Dave Johnson

On Dec 9, 2010 8:49 AM, Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com wrote:

I think we need links for you both. You should set up a web page of your
own, describing what you will sell, and where, and the LibO download page
can link to your site under a Shipped Media section.

Ben

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[libreoffice-marketing] Sample LibO Advert with link

2010-12-24 Thread Dave Johnson
Here is a sample advertisement that can be used in magazines and flyers.
http://www.davefilms.us/libreoffice/LibO_Advert_12_22_2010.pdf


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO advert #2 with link

2010-12-25 Thread Dave Johnson

On Dec 25, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 
 I have a few suggestions but how close is this to completion?  Note that it 
 is 
 always easier to criticise than to create.  I think the advert is good work 
 despite these points ...
 
 1.  Are those well-known legs?  If not then a sexy girl's legs/ankles are 
 likely 
 to be more attractive.  Ignore this comment if this advert is part of a set 
 that 
 aims at diversity and are likely to be displayed fairly near each other.
This is stock photo.
 
 2.  The word hole has quite a few strongly negative connotations in 
 english/american and not many good ones.  Full of holes = lots of problems. 
  
 The phrase instant fail is beginning to take over from that phrase but it 
 is 
 still in common usage.  If you don't like someone or think they have done 
 something fairly bad you might call them an ass-hole, total [ass] hole 
 etc.  
 To mitigate against that presumably this is due to be released at about the 
 start of a famous golf tournament?  If not then can we replace it and keep 
 this 
 one ready to roll out when their is one?  I tried adding w to make it whole 
 = 
 complete or good (a suggestion of fresh baked bread) also whole in one is 
 vaguely bhuddist/zen or something?  See attached gif.
Good point. I was going for the idea that you can spend less time at 
work and more time at play.
 
 3. The paragraph at the bottom was almost right-justified but not quite and 
 the 
 2nd line was strangely spaced away from the first line in a way that looked 
 accidental.  See attached gif.
I can fix this.
 
 4. The shading at bottom-right seems to end quite abruptly.  Is it possible 
 to 
 smudge it down or give the reflection a similar (but much lighter) shadow 
 that 
 fades?  I tried but i'm pretty hopeless at picture editing.  I guess this has 
 been tried and didn't work?

   
 5. The wording the spreadsheet you've always wanted is a blatant lie.  A 
 false 
 retrospective.  Anyway we are the future rather than the past.  How about 
 something like the spreadsheet you will find you've always needed, hmm, 
 tricky.  It is more words and might not fit so well.  The 4th line being 
 advanced functions. was superb, the extra of spoils that a little, sorry. 
  
 
 
 6. I guess the With looks dumb in italics?
 
 7. I really like the blocks of words.  On the right we have always, 
 professional data, [comprehensive] range.  On the left it's pretty good too 
 with the advanced functions.  If this is going to be in magazines or on 
 billboards then people might only see part of it at a time.  The parts are 
 excellent :)
 
 If it is ready to go then ignore my comments as what we have compares 
 favourably 
 with the type of thing we see out there from competitors.  Give me any advert 
 from anyone's running campaign and i could almost always pick more holes in 
 it 
 than i have with the Calc one.
 Good luck and regards from
 Tom :)

Thanks Tom. ;)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] adver #1

2010-12-25 Thread Dave Johnson
http://www.davefilms.us/libreoffice/LibO_Advert_12_22_2010.pdf

Any thoughts?

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-25 Thread Dave Johnson
Just FYI... The DVD will be professionally manufactured with a color printed 
face and printed insert.

http://www.libreofficedvd.info/

Comments are welcome. BTW a video advert will explain the benefits of LibO.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-25 Thread Dave Johnson

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 To: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
 
 Can anyone direct me to some official DVD labels in SVG format for LibO? 
 Otherwise I will have to make my own. My official DVD release date is just 
 after the LibO 3.3.0 date mid Jan 2011.
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 Just FYI... The DVD will be professionally manufactured with a color printed 
 face and printed insert.
 
 http://www.libreofficedvd.info/
 
 Comments are welcome. BTW a video advert will explain the benefits of LibO.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-26 Thread Dave Johnson
I am not officialy sanctioned. I am selling at cost and $1.50 per unit
donation to the TDF.

Dave Johnson

On Dec 25, 2010 11:21 PM, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au
wrote:

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Just FYI... The D...
Dave,
I didn't realise that the Marketing team had assigned an official DVD
distributor. Congratulations if this is the case.

I know there was discussion about this a few months ago on the
marketing list, and I know that we are creating and selling the
documentation through a not for profit organisation based in
Australia.
How much will the DVD be selling for, and what percentage of any
profit will be contributed back to The Document Foundation?

Thanks,
Michael Wheatland

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Impress Advert with link.

2010-12-26 Thread Dave Johnson
This photo was from a pro. This is supposed to convey having fun with LibO.

Dave Johnson

On Dec 26, 2010 9:07 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi

I really didn't like this.  The previous 2 were carefully crafted with
slight
flaws whereas this looks like something thrown together too hastily.

The model is not looking at us and doesn't seem to be engaged with anything.
 I
did like the basic concept.  I think we do need at least 1 super-hot female
in
this series but we could get mired in arguments about my gf/wife/friend/me
looks better than yours.  I think we really need a professional model (such
as
my ex (joking))  a professional photographer otherwise this is going to
look
like a joke.


On another subject, has anyone contacted the FSF to ask them to replace the
name
OpenOffice with LibreOffice yet?
Apols and regards from
Tom :)






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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Impress Advert with link.

2010-12-26 Thread Dave Johnson
you said it. That is the spirit if this advert.

Dave Johnson

On Dec 26, 2010 12:41 PM, Craig B. Olofson c.olof...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello;

If this is one ad in a campaign, I don't see a problem with it.  If this is
the only ad then I can see a need for further discussion.  The reason I say
this is that If we assume this is one of a series, the campaign will have
time to deepen the themes through repetition and the use of different
models.

Speaking of themes, this person looks to me like a real life person
engaged in fun.  The fun is all theatrics and yet has elements of:

- freedom, by intimating flight
- personal power, through the iconic use of superman garb
- everyman: the mask  model tell me she could be any one of us real
people

I like it.  Everyman shines (Clark Kent becomes Superman) when using our
Liberating Tools(tm).  One last point and this has to do with the use of
good looking or hot looking people.  Unless their inclusion is
/incidental/ to a campaign, that is, by luck, I say don't make an effort to
use hot looking people;  male or female.

To do otherwise hints at some of the same objectification of men and,
egregiously, women in the ad campaigns deployed by the alcohol  beauty
industries.  Sex may very well sell but, I'd hate to see any FLOSS community
depend on that kind of campaign*.

Freedom of speech and personal empowerment for real-life people.  That
pretty much sums up why I recommend FLOSS projects in the first place.

Regardless of what you choose, thanks for all of your work and here's to a
fruitful 2011,

-Craig
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[libreoffice-marketing] Introducing advert for LibO

2010-12-27 Thread Dave Johnson
Just FYI

http://www.davefilms.us/libreoffice/introducing_LibO.pdf




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[libreoffice-marketing] Marketing and promotion.

2010-12-27 Thread Dave Johnson

Marketing and promotion of LibreOffice.


I am proposing a campaign to get brand recognition in North America. This will 
be a three-fold process whereby we obtain the attention of our target audience 
with an introduction.

We have to tell everyone what LibreOffice is. This will be done by carefully 
placing advertisements, conducting events, and handing out branded pens, 
pencils, mouse pads.

Secondly, promote the advantages of LibO.

(Need some help with this.)

Third promote the long history of LibO ans OOo.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introducing advert for LibO

2010-12-28 Thread Dave Johnson
I'm not asking for money. The ads, after some refinment, are my gift to the
TDF.

Dave Johnson

On Dec 28, 2010 7:14 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:

On 12/28/2010 01:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 So, Ubuntu now the world's the most famous and widely u...
Ubuntu advertising campaign was talked about inside the free software
environment because it was totally unusual for the Linux market, but not
inside the community of prospect users.

Ubuntu is very visible in the IT environment, but is invisible in the market
at large, although has improved since they have stopped wasting money with
advertising and have invested in a community.

TDF objective is not to have an advertising campaign which is talked about
seven years later, but to grow steadily both the user community and the
prospect community over the months and the years.

Although I am not talking on behalf of the entire Steering Committee, I can
certainly tell that TDF is not going to invest money in advertising at least
in 2011 (but I suspect it will be for several years to come).

There are many ways to spend a marketing budget, and advertising -
especially in the office suite environment - is definitely one of the least
effective (and more expensive).

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introducing advert for LibO

2010-12-28 Thread Dave Johnson
I understand... That is too bad. Why can't they be used in flyers?

Dave Johnson

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On 12/28/2010 02:40 PM, Dave Johnson wrote:

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I was just explaining that we cannot make use of your gift.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-28 Thread Dave Johnson

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Hello,
 
 This web site is not an official website endorsed by the Document
 Foundation; and I believe your right to use for business the LibreOffice
 trademark has not be granted to you.
I was changing the logo because I realized the page looked like an official 
LibO page.
It's changed.
 
 Not only do I find a discussion about a private business to be quite
   (inappropriate) spelling error
 unappropriate on this list, but I would also like Dave Johnson to take down
 this website immediately, at least not to use the LibreOffice name .
 I cannot take the page down. I did change the logo.
 
 The Document Foundation may not have defined a clear trademark policy yet
 but it would be wise to ask before hand.

 http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp According to the US Patent ands 
Trademark Office LibreOffice is not a registered trademark. Better hurry.

I think your tone is rude. I am not making a dime from offering a 
professionally manufactured DVD and giving the TDF $1.50 USD donation per unit. 
This is just the kind of thing that I would expect from Oracle. I am just 
trying to help spread the love of LibreOffice. Maybe you should change the name 
to EncomberedOffice or Not-so-free-if-you-want-to-helpOffice.
  


 Thank you,

  No Thank you
 
 Charles-H. Schulz.
 Co-Founder  Steering Committee Member,
 The Document Foundation.
 
 
 
 2010/12/28 Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 Am 26.12.2010 01:45, schrieb Dave Johnson:
 
 Just FYI... The DVD will be professionally manufactured with a color
 printed face and printed insert.
 
 http://www.libreofficedvd.info/
 
 Comments are welcome.
 
 How can you sell LibreOffice on a DVD, when it has not been released
 yet???
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-28 Thread Dave Johnson
I am NOT selling the software just a professionally made DVD with a Windows and 
Macintosh binary. Probably OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 
 Am 26.12.2010 01:45, schrieb Dave Johnson:
 
 Just FYI... The DVD will be professionally manufactured with a color printed 
 face and printed insert.
 
 http://www.libreofficedvd.info/
 
 Comments are welcome.
 
 How can you sell LibreOffice on a DVD, when it has not been released
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-28 Thread Dave Johnson
I am interested. Just give me the green light when you think it is appropriate.

Sorry for the tension. I haven't had my coffee.

Let me know. Until then.. I will stop completely.  There are plenty of people 
with blank CD's that can help you.

I really want to help. You really bring a guy down.


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On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Dave,
 
 2010/12/28 Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 
 
 Dave Johnson, USNFR
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 6195496830
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 OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/;
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 This web site is not an official website endorsed by the Document
 Foundation; and I believe your right to use for business the LibreOffice
 trademark has not be granted to you.
 I was changing the logo because I realized the page looked like an official
 LibO page.
 It's changed.
 
 Not only do I find a discussion about a private business to be quite
   (inappropriate) spelling error
 unappropriate on this list, but I would also like Dave Johnson to take
 down
 this website immediately, at least not to use the LibreOffice name .
 I cannot take the page down. I did change the logo.
 
 The Document Foundation may not have defined a clear trademark policy yet
 but it would be wise to ask before hand.
 
 http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp According to the US Patent ands
 Trademark Office LibreOffice is not a registered trademark. Better hurry.
 
 
 We're in the process of registering this in the US.
 
 
 
 I think your tone is rude. I am not making a dime from offering a
 professionally manufactured DVD and giving the TDF $1.50 USD donation per
 unit. This is just the kind of thing that I would expect from Oracle. I am
 just trying to help spread the love of LibreOffice. Maybe you should change
 the name to EncomberedOffice or Not-so-free-if-you-want-to-helpOffice.
 
 Dave if you don't make a buck out of it then you're indeed losing money and
 energy. If you're interested in distributing or managing the distribution of
 CD/DVD then let's talk about it here. But please don't set up websites in
 the blue like this.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Charles.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 No Thank you
 
 Charles-H. Schulz.
 Co-Founder  Steering Committee Member,
 The Document Foundation.
 
 
 
 2010/12/28 Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 Am 26.12.2010 01:45, schrieb Dave Johnson:
 
 Just FYI... The DVD will be professionally manufactured with a color
 printed face and printed insert.
 
 http://www.libreofficedvd.info/
 
 Comments are welcome.
 
 How can you sell LibreOffice on a DVD, when it has not been released
 yet???
 
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Fwd: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-28 Thread Dave Johnson

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Date: December 28, 2010 4:45:19 PM CST
 To: marketing@libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
 
 I am interested. Just give me the green light when you think it is 
 appropriate.
 
 Sorry for the tension. I haven't had my coffee.
 
 Let me know. Until then.. I will stop completely.  There are plenty of people 
 with blank CD's that can help you.
 
 I really want to help. You really bring a guy down.
 
 
 Dave Johnson, USNFR
 davefilms...@gmail.com
 6195496830
 http://www.davefilms.us
 (619) 335-5314
 
 Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send 
 OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 
 Dave,
 
 2010/12/28 Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 
 
 Dave Johnson, USNFR
 davefilms...@gmail.com
 6195496830
 http://www.davefilms.us
 (619) 335-5314
 
 Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
 OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/;
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 This web site is not an official website endorsed by the Document
 Foundation; and I believe your right to use for business the LibreOffice
 trademark has not be granted to you.
 I was changing the logo because I realized the page looked like an official
 LibO page.
 It's changed.
 
 Not only do I find a discussion about a private business to be quite
   (inappropriate) spelling error
 unappropriate on this list, but I would also like Dave Johnson to take
 down
 this website immediately, at least not to use the LibreOffice name .
 I cannot take the page down. I did change the logo.
 
 The Document Foundation may not have defined a clear trademark policy yet
 but it would be wise to ask before hand.
 
 http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp According to the US Patent ands
 Trademark Office LibreOffice is not a registered trademark. Better hurry.
 
 
 We're in the process of registering this in the US.
 
 
 
 I think your tone is rude. I am not making a dime from offering a
 professionally manufactured DVD and giving the TDF $1.50 USD donation per
 unit. This is just the kind of thing that I would expect from Oracle. I am
 just trying to help spread the love of LibreOffice. Maybe you should change
 the name to EncomberedOffice or Not-so-free-if-you-want-to-helpOffice.
 
 Dave if you don't make a buck out of it then you're indeed losing money and
 energy. If you're interested in distributing or managing the distribution of
 CD/DVD then let's talk about it here. But please don't set up websites in
 the blue like this.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Charles.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 No Thank you
 
 Charles-H. Schulz.
 Co-Founder  Steering Committee Member,
 The Document Foundation.
 
 
 
 2010/12/28 Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 Am 26.12.2010 01:45, schrieb Dave Johnson:
 
 Just FYI... The DVD will be professionally manufactured with a color
 printed face and printed insert.
 
 http://www.libreofficedvd.info/
 
 Comments are welcome.
 
 How can you sell LibreOffice on a DVD, when it has not been released
 yet???
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] I'm back in the game.

2010-12-28 Thread Dave Johnson
I'm not going to let a little negative talk dissuade me from fulfilling a need. 
I see a need in the market and I want to fulfill that need with the highest 
quality professionally manufactured DVD's containing Mac and Window$ binaries.  
The disc will also have copious amounts of templates and extensions to include 
After the Deadline spelling and grammar checker. 

Thanks Ben for your words of encouragement.



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 Date: December 28, 2010 8:19:13 PM CST
 To: Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: I am out.
 
 Thanks Ben.
 
 I'm back in the game.
 
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 On Dec 28, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
 
 Dave,
 
 Don't pay any attention to Charles' angry message. I don't know what he's 
 talking about. I'm on your side. Let me know how I can help, and if it takes 
 a little bit of a fight, I'm willing to stand with you through it.
 
 -Ben
 
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 David, what's up?
 Did you realize some people are on Christmas vacation and just don't follow 
 their e-mail right now?
 
 So, can you tell me what's up?
 
 Florian (who *IS* on vacation)
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-30 Thread Dave Johnson
I will be able to take a phone call Friday in the afternoon. Either number is 
good. I am in the central time zone. Or we can just email. Your preference.

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On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:21 PM, drew wrote:

 
 On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 18:16 -0600, Dave Johnson wrote:
 I can provide as little as 25 DVD's or a couple hundred. I cannot provide 
 any free DVD's but I can at cost. The more the less per unit cost. I can 
 have them ready in 7 - 10 biz days.
 
 Ok - would you want to discuss this on list then or a phone call
 perhaps?
 
 thanks
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-30 Thread Dave Johnson
That sounds good to me. Still need official art for the cover of the DVD.
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On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:23 PM, drew wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 19:21 -0500, drew wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 18:16 -0600, Dave Johnson wrote:
 I can provide as little as 25 DVD's or a couple hundred. I cannot provide 
 any free DVD's but I can at cost. The more the less per unit cost. I can 
 have them ready in 7 - 10 biz days.
 
 Ok - would you want to discuss this on list then or a phone call
 perhaps?
 
 
 sorry for following my own post.
 
 @Benjamin - If Dave and I chat on phone I would really prefer if we
 could get you on the line at the same time, hopefully we could find a
 time good for all of us.
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-31 Thread Dave Johnson
I agree.

Dave Johnson

On Dec 31, 2010 5:32 AM, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org
wrote:

Hi Tom,

Am 31.12.2010 11:51, schrieb Tom Davies:


 I think it is just easy access to the source code that is required? I
think
 the spirit of t...
LibreOfficeBox, for example, contains the source code as well.

Delivering the product on a DVD is also (or mainly?) meant for
people who cannot download it, for whatever reason. In order to
supply those people with the source code as prescribed, the best way
would be to put it on the same disk.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page

2010-12-31 Thread Dave Johnson
My focus is to offer the DVD to anyone. BTW not a lot of people are aware of
LibO
in the US. So from a marketing POV it makes sence to promote it in every way
and offer it to bystanders at any opportunity.
Dave Johnson

On Dec 31, 2010 12:49 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:

On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 12:32 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote:
 Hi Tom,

 Am 31.12.2010 11:51, schrieb ...
  the spirit of the agreement would make it more relevant to just let
people know
  they can download the product for free and give them the LibreOffice
site?


 LibreOfficeBox, for example, contains the source code as well.

For LibreOffice true, and I would not want to distribute a DVD at a
Linux fest that did not contain that - but for the other FOSS packages
on the LibreOffieBox DVD - Binary only.

Thanks

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[libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Making it remarkable!

2010-12-31 Thread Dave Johnson

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Date: December 31, 2010 5:43:31 PM CST
 To: market...@us.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Making it remarkable!
 
 Making LibreOffice remarkable.
 
 
 
 I want to discuss the idea that LibreOffice is not new software, nor is it 
 ground-breaking in terms of features or user interface. LibreOffice is way 
 behind its competitors in market share. Most of the reviews that I have read 
 say this to be so.
 According to LockerGnome.net “ Openoffice, LibreOffice, Koffice, etc. vs. 
 Microsoft Office” on December 25th, 2010 “People use Microsoft Office for a 
 variety of reasons. MS Office is more widely used in the workplace, and so 
 some people have no option. Some people are in school/college, and they are 
 forced to use it.
 
 
 I personally like iWork better, because you can make a really polished 
 presentation using Keynote. It's Office done better.
 
 
 Now you may be asking, Open Office is compatible with .doc and .docx 
 files. Why should I pay for MS Office? Well, Open Office does a fantastic 
 job with it's price. It can read MS Office files, but I've noticed that when 
 I'm working on a PowerPoint presentation, Open Office will distort some of 
 the images, or it will mess up some of the text.
 
 I can't say that Open 
 Office is bad, but I prefer to use iWork.” By Catchatyou
 Tom Maxwell said on December 25th, 2010 on the same sight; “I agree with what 
 catchatyou said. I've used Open Office before but really don't like it. 
 First, it just doesn't look good but also it has some missing features and 
 has a lot of problems with messing up documents that I've opened in it. 
 Applications like iWork and MS Office are worth the cost.”
 
 
 What others say
 
 Gigom.com has stated that the TDF is clutching 1980's paradigm of the desktop 
 Office Automation software.
 
 
 The problem with marketing today
 
 
 
 Today I have pointed out a lot of negative press that is related to LibO. 
 What can be done about it?
 
 
 LibreOffice has a story and the story is what will make LibreOffice 
 remarkable.
 The United States only knows Microsoft Office. Lets tell them about 
 LibreOffice stressing the story. LibO is 100% organic software!
 Accentuate the positive! DO NOT talk about the fact that it is free. Talk 
 about the ODF.
 According to Wilipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_adoption) 
 NATO with its 26 members (Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, 
 Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, 
 Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, 
 Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, the UK, and the USA) uses ODF as a 
 mandatory standard for all members.
 What will be our FREE PRIZE?
 
 What free prize will be include with the purchase of the LibO DVD? What prize 
 will get them eager to buy?
 
 
 Please throw out some ideas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Making LibO remarkable

2010-12-31 Thread Dave Johnson

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Date: December 31, 2010 6:02:29 PM CST
 To: market...@us.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Making LibO remarkable
 
 We can't buy attention...
 
 1.LibO is not better than MS Office. It doesn't look better than MS 
 Office. IWork.. ditto.
 
 2.We MUST build our brand! 
 
   We must create advertising that connects LibO with cool stuff. Fun 
 things todo. Like making a cool calendar with the kids pictures for Grandma! 
 Lets wright a kids book about kids and by a kid.
 
   Until the coders at the TDF correct the shortcomings we work around 
 them. Lets get a nice user base and get local government to adopt LibO like 
 NATO did. Get enough folks to adopt and docx will be old news.
 
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Making LibO Remarkable 2

2010-12-31 Thread Dave Johnson
Our #1 goal should be to make a better product than the other guy. This job is 
being handled very well by the TDF. So the #2 goal is to increase our growth, 
in terms of market share. Sure millions of GNU/Linux users have been using OOo 
/ LibO for years. In the United States, number of companies using OOo / LibO 
can be counted on our hands. This is not good.

In a capitalistic economy one must look at the bigger picture. If a FOSS 
product gains a large percentage of the market we must ask the question, how 
will our competition react to this?

How will the government react to it? We must anticipate, and prepare for the 
next move.

The LibO product is evolving and we must get its fans chanting.

What will be the free prize in the box? How about bundling video tutorials. 
Free movies from the Blender Foundation.


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Fwd: [libreoffice-marketing] Our goals?

2011-01-01 Thread Dave Johnson

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Date: January 1, 2011 10:25:45 PM CST
 To: marketing@libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Our goals?
 
 My intention was not to say, in fact, that LibO is a bad product. I love LibO 
 and use it daily. What I meant to say was; Any product good or bad can be 
 marketed in such a way that it matters not about the product itself but the 
 message.
 
 My example of a poorly crafted message angered a lot of you. I want to 
 challenge everyone to craft a positive message and story to attach to 
 marketing materials that focus's on the great things LibreOffice offers. Not 
 just the superficial things. Meaningful and substantial. 
 
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 On Jan 1, 2011, at 8:07 PM, drew wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 21:02 -0500, drew wrote:
 or you can download a HD OGV file here:
 
 [correction]
 http://oucv.org/libreoffice/happy_new_year_LibreOffice.ogv.tar.gz 
 
 Ciao
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Budget

2011-01-02 Thread Dave Johnson
Excellent!

Dave Johnson

On Jan 2, 2011 10:11 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:

I think we have to be clear, once and for all.

We will not have a marketing budget, at least in 2011 and 2012.

We will not have any money to spend on advertising and market research.

If any, we will have some money for travels and events (but not before we
have a legal entity set up).

We have to find our marketing budget in several specific resources we can
have for free:

- brain (we have to outsmart the competition)

- volunteer work (we can achieve wonders with our enthusiasm)

- willingness to cooperate (we can achieve wonders as a team)

- positive attitude (we cannot give up, never)

- empathy with media (we are the nice guys to help)

- learning from mistakes (we will make many of them)

- learning from positive experiences (we have had many in the past)

Our experience in Italy shows that a 10 Million Euro yearly marketing budget
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[libreoffice-marketing] LibO community distributors

2011-01-13 Thread Dave Johnson
Question? When will the Community Distributors page be up with links to my 
page 'http://www.libreofficedvd.info' and many others as listed on the wiki?

If you look at my new page you will see a coming soon pic and links back to 
the LibO download page at http://www.libreoffice.org.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Slogan

2011-01-14 Thread Dave Johnson
I use : LibreOffice... Tools for real life!

Dave Johnson

On Jan 14, 2011 7:02 AM, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote:

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2011/1/14 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org


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 freedom never tasted so suite is also my clear preference and might look
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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 3.3.0.4 Final is out

2011-01-25 Thread Dave Johnson
http://www.libreofficedvd.info/libreOffice.html

Get your DVD backup of LibreOffice 3.3!

LibreOffice is a productivity suite that is compatible with other major office 
suites, and available on a variety of platforms. It is free software, and 
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[libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

2011-01-30 Thread Dave Johnson
Here is the label for my local area.

http://www.davefilms.us/libreoffice/LibO-dvd-label-DaveFilms_2011.png


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

2011-01-31 Thread Dave Johnson
Dr. Duppold, Is thank you for your points and Is am making the changes.

Dave Johnson

On Jan 31, 2011 4:43 AM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at
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Hi Stefan, Dave, all,

Thanks for pointing to the important basics for any LibO related artwork!


 Hi Dave,

 Am 30.01.2011 23:02, schrieb Dave Johnson:

  Here is the label for my local ar...
This case is quite special because Dave mimics the original logo
by putting together the single parts of the logo (symbol and text),
whiole using them alone is allowed following the Guidelines.

What needs consideration is:

- Don't reduce the white space area around the logo to less than
1/2 the width of the symbol.

The SM sign is just 1/4 of the symbol's width away from the
LibreOffice text.

When the right distances are respected, the impression of a
modified logo will be reduced, as the distance allows a clear
distiction between our logo and the surroundings.

- Don't modify the logo colors.

The lower border of the symbol is covered by some kind of
grey painting - perhaps this derives from removing the gradient
in front of the logo.

Either use the contemporary logo if you want to show gradients
or use the default logo, if the symbol sould stay black.



 Also see the Trademark Policy
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy
Following our latest discussions with Dave, I'm quite sure
he is informed about it - especially with regards to the
differentiation between external reference to the product and
community on the one hand and representation as TDF /
community spokespeople / official provider of resources
on the other.

Very soon there will be a modified logo to be used for
external reference - probably based on this draft:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Non-TDF_logos.png

So please stay tuned...

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Personally I don't think that the colors of the blue gradient
fit very well with the LibO green, but this is nothing we need to
discuss here...





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[libreoffice-marketing] Valve Steam Windows stats.

2011-02-01 Thread Dave Johnson
According to Valve Steam (http://www.steampowered.com) The hardware survey of 
Windows machines have 14.63% install base of OpenOffice.org. No mention of 
LibreOffice... yet. Macintosh info is coming soon. We are talking  over 3 
million steam clients at peak network times.

OpenOffice on Windows 14.63%


http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: quick reference sheets - good style to look at

2011-02-17 Thread Dave Johnson
What can I do to help?

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OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; 

On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

 Le 2011-02-17 16:12, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :
 
 I will be spending all my time working on the N.American DVD, for now.
 I will be working as much time as my body can handle on my desktop
 to do the needed editing and such for that DVD. I hope to have my end
 done withing the next week or so.
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for that work. It is great that the DVD is being worked on. For anyone 
 else or even lurkers who may want to jump in, feel free to do so or to ask. 
 There is enough for everyone to do.
 
 Cheers
 
 Marc
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD--need help finding the problem with the HTML code

2011-02-22 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:17:48 -0500

 
 I need help trying to find out what is the problem with the HTML code.
 You go to Module [page].  Click on read more under Writer and you
 get a second tab or windows when it comes up.  Now you have 2
 pages.  You click on the read more under Calc, and you do not get
 the second window.  Both coding are the same except the file name.
 So Writer should not open a second tab/window is Calc does not.
 
 Cannot figure what the problem is.  It must be somewhere else, but
 I cannot see it.  The software I use cannot get it to stop either.
 
 http://www.lungstrom.com/libreoffice-dvd-project/LibreOffice-disc-North-American-DVD/module.html
 
 

The Writer Read more ... link:
a target=_blank href=writer.htmlRead more .../a
has a target attribute. _blank = open in new page/tab

The Calc Read more ... link:
a href=calc.htmlRead more .../a
is missing the target attribute and defaults to _self = open in same
window/tab.

HTH

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Quality Video Clips

2011-02-27 Thread Dave Johnson
exactly what do you need.

Dave Johnson

On Feb 27, 2011 1:55 PM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for set of LibreOffice Video clips to broadcast in a
educational channel in the local satellite TV.

Highly appreciate your earliest response. :)

Best Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Printed copy of Writer Guide now available

2011-05-01 Thread Dave Johnson
$25.00 ! :(
 On May 1, 2011 2:38 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Just passing this on.

 ===

 From Jean Hollis Weber:

 The printed edition of the LibreOffice Writer Guide is now available
 from Friends of OpenDocument, Inc. The direct link is
 http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/libreoffice-3-writer-guide/15593313

 This book joins the Getting Started with LibreOffice book, which is
 available from the same publisher.

 These printed editions are provided as a service to people who want a
 hard copy book. The same books are available from the LibreOffice
 website as free PDFs, which have the added advantage of being in colour.

 --Jean

 ===

 Cheers

 Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] voiceovers for LibOCon

2011-07-20 Thread Dave Johnson
A Voice Over is a person who talks or narrates. This is what I provide as a
buisness.
On Jul 20, 2011 7:55 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Ahem... What's a voice over?

 Charles.
 Le 20 juil. 2011 13:40, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org
 a écrit :
 Hello,

 I still have the offer from a speaker to do voice-overs for LibreOffice.
 So far, we didn't make use of it. :-) What just popped to my mind was:

 Would it be helpful to have some voice-overs for the LibreOffice
 Conference? Is there any place we could air them, or do we have any
 videos that still need some sound?

 Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] voiceovers for LibOCon

2011-07-20 Thread Dave Johnson
Yes.. I'd love to
 On Jul 20, 2011 3:44 PM, Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 Howdy all,

 I'm not sure but perhaps Florian is referring to a couple of promotional
 videos I put together recently - I asked folks on the mailing lists if
 anyone wanted to do a voice over in their native language for either.

 Absolutely zero response...

 But perhaps we can look at some new videos...actually I had two more in
 mind - one more promo and one, Libo/TDF info/promo peice, for debut at
 the conference maybe.

 Truth is though I don't see much interest from people in getting
 involved in doing anything like this.

 There is some interest recently about training videos and certainly
 there are plenty of tutorial type of videos coming out from different
 sources..so, I don't know

 - what do people do?

 @Dave are you interested in working on something along these lines?

 Thanks,

 Drew



 On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 13:08 -0500, Dave Johnson wrote:
 A Voice Over is a person who talks or narrates. This is what I provide as
a
 buisness.
 On Jul 20, 2011 7:55 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
  Ahem... What's a voice over?
 
  Charles.
  Le 20 juil. 2011 13:40, Florian Effenberger 
 flo...@documentfoundation.org
  a écrit :
  Hello,
 
  I still have the offer from a speaker to do voice-overs for
LibreOffice.
  So far, we didn't make use of it. :-) What just popped to my mind was:
 
  Would it be helpful to have some voice-overs for the LibreOffice
  Conference? Is there any place we could air them, or do we have any
  videos that still need some sound?
 
  Florian
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] voiceovers for LibOCon

2011-07-23 Thread Dave Johnson
Drew... Most of my paid jobs require the very best in audio sound. If it's
convenient, use wave (rif) files at least 1440khz or better. 24bit
Just f y I.
On Jul 22, 2011 6:41 PM, Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 22:37 +0200, Warren Camilleri wrote:
 Hi drew i won'mind recording in the maltese and english accents and
 languages, i could help on flash animation over the weekends and have
 finnaly got rid of ms office on my work office but still need to work the
 kinks on windows live mail whoch keeping 250 colleages from switching


 Hi Warren,

 Cool - and I'm glad you popped onto the mailing list to follow up with
 the request you stated on FaceBook.

 So - first the promo video you asked about - the 'Many Voices' video.

 http://www.youtube.com/user/libreoffice#p/c/3394BC60362F3DF6/0/SI4BjrxNwwA

 Note: I'm still using the youtube LibreOffie Vols channel, but have just
 recently begun using the LibreOffice channel. (more on that in a
 different email)

 I think you wanted the graphic files I used for the backgrounds.

 You can find the files on the wiki:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Wallpapers

 There is a little trick I do with the document icon, adding the scatter
 motif and the Libo/TDF logo - but that is all generated within the video
 editor, blending the different elements at runtime - the source for
 those elements are also available on the wiki.


 Though I do have a graphic of that rendering, but it hasn't really been
 vetted in anyway.

 OH - the voices, all from google BTW.

 Then there is the second video
 http://www.youtube.com/user/libreoffice#p/c/3394BC60362F3DF6/0/SI4BjrxNwwA

 Image wise, again all images are available from the wiki - but I did
 create special png files for use in the video from SVG sources on the
 wikim, for the application icons and the paper airplane.

 This one maybe is better suited for folks to add their own voice to.

 If that interests you then there are two possible ways to proceed.

 1) Simply make a recording of your voice and send it to me and I'll
 replace my voice with yours.

 2) I can send you the mp4 file, minus my voice, but with the music track
 intact and you can mix your voice overtop.

 Either way is good with me.

 Let me know.


 //drew





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Added another conference specific wallpaper (small poster) sized graphic to wiki

2011-08-01 Thread Dave Johnson
Love it Drew...  If you want to use Tools for  real life.  You can...
On Aug 1, 2011 1:54 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 HI,

 Been playing with graphic editors agaon...

 This time ended up putting together a 1920 x 1080 png image that is
 LibreOffice Conference specific - mostly useful for English speakers I
 suppose as it incorporates the slogan Freedom never tasted so Suite!


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Wallpaper-LibreOffice-conference-soSuite.png

 Also added this to the bottom of the wallpaper collection page at:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Wallpapers

 Thanks,

 Drew


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Added another conference specific wallpaper (small poster) sized graphic to wiki

2011-08-01 Thread Dave Johnson
Thanks... use what you need.
On Aug 1, 2011 2:14 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 13:58 -0500, Dave Johnson wrote:
 Love it Drew...

 Well, it has appeal only because I am standing on the shoulders of
 others..and I'm sure the logo could of been placed higher...also.

 If you want to use Tools for real life. You can...

 Maybe...actually some of the images you put together, early on really
 looked nice I thought - and your vision IMO really meshed with the
 Branding vision espoused by the design team members.

 //drew

 On Aug 1, 2011 1:54 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
  HI,
 
  Been playing with graphic editors agaon...
 
  This time ended up putting together a 1920 x 1080 png image that is
  LibreOffice Conference specific - mostly useful for English speakers I
  suppose as it incorporates the slogan Freedom never tasted so Suite!
 
 

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Wallpaper-LibreOffice-conference-soSuite.png
 
  Also added this to the bottom of the wallpaper collection page at:
 
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Wallpapers
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-10 Thread Dave Johnson
I'd like to represent middle Tennessee market.
On Aug 10, 2011 5:39 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 So ban people from those positions unless they can speak English? It seems
a
 bit elitist to me.


 Why middle men? Why not middle women?
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org
 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 21:15:50
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

 Hi,

 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that
don't
 speak
 English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between
 their
 team and the English, perhaps more than one person.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 I agree with all the notes given by all. Except this one.

 So, as Paulo already have manifested in the brasilian lists and in the
 international lists, it's delicate to have people who communicate through
 other, and that would happen here with this idea. Whether in Brazil or in
 any country.

 I agree that English can be a barrier in Brazil, as in other countries.
But
 let middlemen emerge can create filters. And I'm not saying this just
 thinking about Brazil. After all, as I said, other countries are also
 experiencing this problem, you may be right.

 So, I think that the marketing list really should think about that idea,
to
 have more contributors or Mitarbeiter, but I think that everybody on
this
 list need to communicate in English. Without intermediaries, without
 filters.

 Best,

 David


 
 From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org
 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

 Hi Florian,


  Hello,
  since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job,
  invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot
to
  make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a
  well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something that
stands
  for
  free software, open standards and a major productivity suite.
  Many of you have recognized that we have not yet set-up fixed community
  roles, official titles or named team leads. This has been on purpose,
to
  not
  create fixed structures from the beginning, and I have a feeling we are
  performing very well with this approach. In the next months, I am sure
 that
  we will see some more structure growing, but I hope it will not be as
  diverse and large as we had it with OpenOffice.org -- to me, the flat
  approach we are following at LibreOffice works very well and keeps
 lowering
  barriers for people joining the community. When many people contribute
  their
  amazing talent, creativity and a lot of time, it is not necessary to
have
  too many different hierarchies in the project.


 I fully agree to that!!! We are working just fine without such titles and
 hierarquies...


  However, there is one area where we should move forward and work for
more
  structures, and that is marketing.
  Those who have been involved with OpenOffice.org remember our so-called
  MarCons, the marketing contacts, and I would like to start building
  something similar in the LibreOffice community. We had various
 discussions
  on the marketing mailing list on this topic, and there is a common
  agreement
  that this approach is worth a try. For those who don't remember, have a
  look
  at this page: http://marketing.openoffice.**org/contacts.html
  http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.htmlDon't
  be irritated by the fact that some well-known LibreOffice people are
  still listed, it seems that nobody updated the page since September...
 

 snip


  What I want to do is to have a strong and solid network of marketeers
for
  the *LibreOffice* project. They do not represent the Foundation as
legal
  entity, but even more do represent the Community, the project and the
  product.
  So, in a nutshell, I am aiming for a distinction between the
Foundation's
  official spokespeople, and the LibreOffice project's spokespeople. The
  rationale behind this is that in the future, the Foundation might have
  several projects, each with their own contacts.
  Ideally, for every international projects that we currently have -
  http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Local_**Mailing_Lists
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists-
  we should find at least two community representatives, ideally even
  three.
  They will be listed on an official website, should get some official
 title
  that we still can decide on (Marketing Contact might be a good
choice,
  but
  I'm open to other solutions), be elegible to use LibreOffice business
  cards,
  and will be the first point of contact for any marketing, PR or
  journalist-related inquiries in their area. So, while not 

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread Dave Johnson
Agreed. I have a BS in Mass Communications. Just FYI.
On Aug 11, 2011 7:56 AM, David Emmerich Jourdain 
jourd...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hi Tom,

 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 So ban people from those positions unless they can speak English? It
 seems a
 bit elitist to me.


 My intention isn't to make elitism (not at all), just to be on the
realism.

 We can not forget that the core language is English. In the TDF lists and
in
 almost all businesses in the world. I prefer German ;-), but as my mother
 language, all others languages are, in a certain way, in the margins of
the
 relationships.

 So, I understand that English will always be vital to our activities.

 Marketing actions are already done in local languages and certainly will
 keep going. We can see this on the pt_BR lists, on the german lists. But
to
 be on the int-lists or to participate in international discussions (via
 skype or gtalk, or with another verbal way) I understand that all
 stakeholders need English, not just some middlemen.

 Why middle men? Why not middle women?


 And for sure, if we need, I prefer middle women at all!! :-)

 In an stinky atmosphere of men, have some smelling women in the middle is
 much better, even if it's virtual! :-D

 Best regards,

 David


 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org
 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 21:15:50
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

 Hi,

 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

  Hi :)
  It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that
 don't
  speak
  English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between
  their
  team and the English, perhaps more than one person.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 

 I agree with all the notes given by all. Except this one.

 So, as Paulo already have manifested in the brasilian lists and in the
 international lists, it's delicate to have people who communicate through
 other, and that would happen here with this idea. Whether in Brazil or in
 any country.

 I agree that English can be a barrier in Brazil, as in other countries.
But
 let middlemen emerge can create filters. And I'm not saying this just
 thinking about Brazil. After all, as I said, other countries are also
 experiencing this problem, you may be right.

 So, I think that the marketing list really should think about that idea,
to
 have more contributors or Mitarbeiter, but I think that everybody on
this
 list need to communicate in English. Without intermediaries, without
 filters.

 Best,

 David


  
  From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org
  To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
 
  Hi Florian,
 
 
   Hello,
   since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job,
   invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot
 to
   make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a
   well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something that
 stands
   for
   free software, open standards and a major productivity suite.
   Many of you have recognized that we have not yet set-up fixed
community
   roles, official titles or named team leads. This has been on purpose,
 to
   not
   create fixed structures from the beginning, and I have a feeling we
are
   performing very well with this approach. In the next months, I am
sure
  that
   we will see some more structure growing, but I hope it will not be as
   diverse and large as we had it with OpenOffice.org -- to me, the
flat
   approach we are following at LibreOffice works very well and keeps
  lowering
   barriers for people joining the community. When many people
contribute
   their
   amazing talent, creativity and a lot of time, it is not necessary to
 have
   too many different hierarchies in the project.
 
 
  I fully agree to that!!! We are working just fine without such titles
and
  hierarquies...
 
 
   However, there is one area where we should move forward and work for
 more
   structures, and that is marketing.
   Those who have been involved with OpenOffice.org remember our
so-called
   MarCons, the marketing contacts, and I would like to start building
   something similar in the LibreOffice community. We had various
  discussions
   on the marketing mailing list on this topic, and there is a common
   agreement
   that this approach is worth a try. For those who don't remember, have
a
   look
   at this page: http://marketing.openoffice.**org/contacts.html
   http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.htmlDon't
   be irritated by the fact that some well-known LibreOffice people are
   still listed, it seems that nobody updated the page since
September...
  
 
  snip
 
 
   What I want to do is to have a 

[libreoffice-marketing] Lino for Motlow Collage MTSU University

2011-08-12 Thread Dave Johnson
I need some help.. marketing flyers for students and  information material's
to help me give LibO DVD away @campuses.
On Aug 12, 2011 10:33 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 The North American and the Brazilian Dvd projects seem to offer 2 versions
of
 their Dvd, one that is for Windows-only and the other that can be used for

 almost any platform.


 Supplying a tiny distro such as SliTaz (or one that is better for local
 languages, perhaps Sugar?) might be good but might hugely increase the
 complexity of the Dvd project.

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
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  Hello Friends,
  I am really sorry for the brake that I had. Met with an accident and
  just now recovering. I wanted to start a DVD project for India release
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  before I last disappeared, and now I want to continue it. Can you
please
  tell me how to start and go about it?
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-15 Thread Dave Johnson
Why not the official language of the UN. FRENCH.
On Aug 15, 2011 7:57 PM, luizh...@gmail.com luizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ops,

 Please, where it says I'm not ashamed to admit that my English is awful
 when you need to talk., substitute for: I'm not ashamed to admit that I
am
 not fluent in English when necessary to talk.

 Rgds,

 Luiz

 2011/8/15 luizh...@gmail.com luizh...@gmail.com

  Hi,
 
  In practical terms, require all who wish to contribute are fluent in
  English seems rather elitist. I'm not ashamed to admit that my English
is awful
  when you need to talk. But I am reassured when I need to read or
translate
  any text in English or even write. Here in Brazil we have several people
  with fluency in English, which can be filters. I trust these people!!
And
  I think it's past time to treat Brazil as a trouble spot. Things have
worked
  very well here.
  I agree with Florian when he says that leave this decision to the local
  community and would like to apply for this job I've always done since
the
  days of OpenOffice.org.
 
 
  Regards from,
 
  Luiz Oliveira
 
  2011/8/12 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 
  Hi :)
  +1
  I gather that the Brazilian Team is discussing what they want from
people
  in
  this role in their teams.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
  To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 11:38:37
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
 
  Hi,
 
  I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this
  network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles first would
help
  us define what kind if skills we're looking for.
 
  For instance, such a marketeer network ought to have as its primary
  mission
  to translate the project's PR and to spread field information back and
  forth
  (between the field and the more central areas of the project). Such a
  mission, that I imho believe must be carried out before anything else,
  requires the use of English. I'd be happy if we could set such a
network
  and
  let's see what else we can come up with.
 
  Best,
 
  Charles.
  Le 11 août 2011 12:22, Florian Effenberger 
  flo...@documentfoundation.org
  a écrit :
   Hi,
  
   Dave Johnson wrote on 2011-08-11 00:59:
   I'd like to represent middle Tennessee market.
  
   thanks for your offer! Please wait with applying until we've sorted
out
   the details and the process. :)
  
   Florian
  
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Dave Johnson
I agree... I think Spanish or your native language and English.
On Aug 15, 2011 8:05 PM, Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org
wrote:
 2011/8/15 Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com

 Why not the official language of the UN. FRENCH.


 Hello Dave.

 If finding people who can communicate in English is a hard thing to do in
 Brazilian community, French would be almost impossible.

 Cheers.


 On Aug 15, 2011 7:57 PM, luizh...@gmail.com luizh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Ops,
 
  Please, where it says I'm not ashamed to admit that my English is
awful
  when you need to talk., substitute for: I'm not ashamed to admit that
I
 am
  not fluent in English when necessary to talk.
 
  Rgds,
 
  Luiz
 
  2011/8/15 luizh...@gmail.com luizh...@gmail.com
 
   Hi,
  
   In practical terms, require all who wish to contribute are fluent in
   English seems rather elitist. I'm not ashamed to admit that my
English
 is awful
   when you need to talk. But I am reassured when I need to read or
 translate
   any text in English or even write. Here in Brazil we have several
 people
   with fluency in English, which can be filters. I trust these
people!!
 And
   I think it's past time to treat Brazil as a trouble spot. Things have
 worked
   very well here.
   I agree with Florian when he says that leave this decision to the
local
   community and would like to apply for this job I've always done since
 the
   days of OpenOffice.org.
  
  
   Regards from,
  
   Luiz Oliveira
  
   2011/8/12 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
  
   Hi :)
   +1
   I gather that the Brazilian Team is discussing what they want from
 people
   in
   this role in their teams.
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  
  
   
   From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
   To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 11:38:37
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of
marketeers
  
   Hi,
  
   I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of
this
   network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles first
would
 help
   us define what kind if skills we're looking for.
  
   For instance, such a marketeer network ought to have as its primary
   mission
   to translate the project's PR and to spread field information back
and
   forth
   (between the field and the more central areas of the project). Such
a
   mission, that I imho believe must be carried out before anything
else,
   requires the use of English. I'd be happy if we could set such a
 network
   and
   let's see what else we can come up with.
  
   Best,
  
   Charles.
   Le 11 août 2011 12:22, Florian Effenberger 
   flo...@documentfoundation.org
   a écrit :
Hi,
   
Dave Johnson wrote on 2011-08-11 00:59:
I'd like to represent middle Tennessee market.
   
thanks for your offer! Please wait with applying until we've
sorted
 out
the details and the process. :)
   
Florian
   
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Libo push

2012-01-17 Thread Dave Johnson
Agreed. I plan on approaching some local highschools
Offering the DVD with extras. Can I have a link to your image... I don't
want to reinvent the wheel.
On Jan 17, 2012 9:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 On 01/17/2012 04:42 PM, Dave Johnson wrote:

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 Date: Jan 17, 2012 3:40 PM
 Subject: Libo push
 To: flo...@gmail.comfloeff@**gmail.com flo...@gmail.com

 Just wanted to pass on that I have been promoting libreoffice  on 5 campus
 in middle tennessee usa.
 I have contacted via email as many as 300 individual students.
 I will be passing out as many libreoffice dvd's as I can make.
 Please forward this message to the group so everybody can  know what I'm
 doing in tennessee


 Well, I have printed about half that many from the various versions of the
 following DVD ISO file, since summer.  Most were given out to people within
 50 miles of my location in central New York State.

 It would be nice to get the DVDs into the hands of the students BEFORE
 they get the MS habit, i.e. while they are still at home in their local
 school districts.  Free DVDs to college students are great, except if it is
 after their parents forked out for MSO on their kid's college computers.

 http://download.**documentfoundation.org/**libreoffice/box/3.4.4/libo3.4.*
 *4-NA-DVD-WLM-Dec-3-2011.isohttp://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.4.4/libo3.4.4-NA-DVD-WLM-Dec-3-2011.iso

 I tend to make both DVD case and thin-jewel case copies depending on who
 will be getting the media.  Except for the lower computer skilled person -
 think business suites - I tend to give out DVDs with Windows, Linux, and
 Mac installs.  For those who would have problems with that, or gets
 confused about their computer's specs, I have a Windows-only version of the
 DVD.

 What extras are you offering besides the generic LO English install files?
  Any extra language packs?  Any extra dictionaries?  Any extensions or
 templates?  If you have students where they read/write more than just
 English, or maybe Spanish as well, it is good to have a sampling of other
 language packs to show them that it is easy to add more languages to the
 package, or at least have more dictionaries than just the default ones.
  There are over 180 dictionaries that work for LO out there.  I tried to
 include them all with my DVDs.  I now produced a set of English
 dictionaries [plus thesaurus and hyphenation] going from 98,000 words to
 over 638,000 words in their spelling word lists.  I have a 1,000,000+ word
 list, but the last 200,000 words seem to be mostly obscure words and weird
 but valid spellings of included ones.  You get to decide on how far you
 want to go with the depth of the words, and word types, you want to spell.
  There are dictionaries specifically for Medical and Chemical words and
 terms that are currently not in my 638K word lists [90K+/- of them].  Bet
 that would help for some college students.

 So the extras do help.  So does templates for standard document types
 that they might need can help with their large paper assignments.

 It is great that you have the ability to canvas 5 colleges with the
 software.  Now maybe we can get more extras that are geared for the
 learning environments.  From 6th grade to post-graduate level, all could
 use more stuff than comes in the basic office package to help with their
 paperwork these days.  MSO does not do much, except student discount, so
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] High-res screenshots

2012-02-13 Thread Dave Johnson
Tell me what you need and I can provide it in high resolution any doing.
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 I have a journalist who works for a *paper* magazine and who is writing an
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 the suite? (like 300 or 500px)

 Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Future OS X will make it hard to install software that is not on the App Store...

2012-02-18 Thread Dave Johnson
No fear... It is like Android's option to install unknown apps. That is
allot really means. It part of the trusted platform  thing.
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charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Le samedi 18 février 2012 à 12:16 +0100, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
  Hi Charles, *,
 
  On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Charles-H.Schulz
  charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
   Just stumbled upon this, we might need to address that legally:
 
  Not sure what you mean with legally here.
 
  I wouldn't do anything. As the article reads, users have the power to
  install nevertheless, so all we need to do is to document that.
  
 http://www.osnews.com/story/25619/Mac_OS_X_10_8_restricted_to_App_Store_signed_apps_by_default
 
  (if that was not clear, I'm against trying to get LibreOffice into
  Apple's appstore just for this reason)
 

 Sure, I'm not suggesting that Apple's appstore is great, only that
 people are lazy and that we might be forced to at least get our packages
 signed by Apple. Unless we want to be known as something underground
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] High-res screenshots

2012-02-18 Thread Dave Johnson
Sorry will email a link to you today.
On Feb 18, 2012 7:24 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
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 Dave,

 Do you have the pics please? :-)

 Best,

 Charles.

 Le Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:33:17 -0600,
 Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Tell me what you need and I can provide it in high resolution any
  doing. On Feb 13, 2012 10:23 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
  charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   I have a journalist who works for a *paper* magazine and who is
   writing an article about Libreoffice. Does anyone have high
   resolution screenshot of the suite? (like 300 or 500px)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Charles.
  
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice

2012-03-10 Thread Dave Johnson
Can a marketing person request a printed LO user guide instead of money? I
am approaching a Church School to adopt L O vice MSO. A book to show them
in my presentation will help.
On Mar 10, 2012 6:24 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tom,
 Are you supporting or objecting to having local groups request some of the
 money that Friends of OpenDocument is holding?

 Jean

 On 11/03/2012, at 8:55, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

  Hi :)
  I thought the plan was to have local teams, such as the Brazilian, or
 the French or wherever, all administering their own finances and then
 giving maybe a flat rate as Affiliation fees or some such and then maybe
 a percentage too.
 
  My personal feeling is that Local teams need to work towards being
 self-sufficient and it would be great if they can cover their own sundry
 costs without always having to discuss minutia and waiting for TDF's BoD to
 approve a sundry expense.  I don't see any problem with Local Teams being
 affiliated to both OOo and LO at the same time now.  I guess some funds may
 need to be restricted to one or the other but that is something for the
 bookkeeping records and end-of-year financial accounts.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
  --- On Sat, 10/3/12, ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de
 wrote:
 
  From: ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing
 LibreOffice
  To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Saturday, 10 March, 2012, 8:18
 
  Hi Jean, all,
 
  Am 10.03.2012 05:13, schrieb Jean Weber:
 
  Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation
  for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to
  cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't
  deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing
  materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events,
  attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers
  (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be
  valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community
  and the customer base.
 
  2 thoughts:
  - maybe interesting for the BoD-ml (board-disc...@documentfoundation.org)
 too.
  - maybe some part of the money for a travel refund (see point 12 of the
 BoD-tasks [1]? We are not yet in a position to pay these
 
  [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks
 
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Book request for marketing

2012-03-11 Thread Dave Johnson
I would me most grateful for the printed LibreOffice user manual. I intend to 
use it in my one-on-one product presentation. I am trying to get, long-time MSO 
non-profits to change to LibO. This is a daunting task. Here in Tennessee, USA 
MSO is the default standard even for non-profit church schools. I will make my 
pitch and see where it goes from there. My job, as a non-paid, LibreOffice 
marketeer is to ask the questions that the Microsoft sales rep chooses not to 
ask. I have to present a real paradigm change from MSO to free software. I have 
to give them a real reason to change. Not just for monies sake. I have to 
convince them that they need the product. I have no budget, no expense account. 
I do have a full-time job working in dialysis. I am a full time student also. I 
choose to ask for a book vice money because, a book cannot be spent on other 
things. I know you don't know me… But I am very dedicated. I view the loose 
association of marketing folks as a barrier not an advantage. Like I said, I 
have no budget. I have a family. A wife and four kids. This is what I choose to 
do on my spare time.

Dave Johnson, USN-FR (HM2)
davefilms...@gmail.com
davefilms...@me.com

http://www.davefilms.us
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Please do not send me Microsoft Office. Send OpenDocument instead! 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Java

2012-04-14 Thread Dave Johnson
Java is the become a vulnerability in terms of malware on mac o s 10 and
could be in the future

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[libreoffice-marketing] Java

2012-04-14 Thread Dave Johnson
I am looking forward to when java I will be depreciated in libreoffice

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Team blog added to the Websites and Web Services used by The Document Foundation wiki page

2012-06-10 Thread Dave Johnson
BTW ...  I have offered marketing materials.. has anyone used them?
On Jun 10, 2012 6:50 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I added the TDF Google+ page to the wiki page mentioned below by
 Marc. Florian owns this page, but several people (including me) are
 managers and can post as TDF.

 --Jean

 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
  FYI,
 
  I have added the Marketing Team blog to the Websites and Web Services
  used by The Document Foundation wiki page[1]. I have added my name as
 the
  site maintainer.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Marc
 
  [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Web_Sites_services
 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Impact of Mozilla's decision regarding Thunderbird on LibreOffice and need to act?

2012-07-15 Thread Dave Johnson
That sounds great. If only we could get a co-branded version that ships
with LO.
On Jul 15, 2012 10:14 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello Dave,

 It's one thing to advocate, and another thing to find a sustainable stream
 of developers who can develop TB or any other email client.
 Anyway, this being said, it seems that the Mozilla Foundation is explaining
 a different story about TB . Check this :

 http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/

 What this means is that TB is not going away. The community can contribute
 to it, and I think that's what supposed to happen. I'm also convinced
 there's some real business opportunity around it, so I'm not all too
 worried about it.

 Best,

 Charles.


 2012/7/15 Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com

  I agree... TB is a need for LO. Not a want. To effectively compete in the
  market we (LO / TDF) must have an  integrated PIM. I have been advocating
  this in the past.
  On Jul 15, 2012 6:20 AM, Gerry T. gerry.trep...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
   Dear Charles,
  
   thank you very much for your reply.
  
[...] I am not sure I agree with your thesis. I would point out that
 in
   most
   organization it's the email / groupware server (Exchange/Lotus) that's
   the primary barrier, not the mail client.
   If I'm not mistaken Thunderbird or Mozilla do not distribute such
   groupware server.
  
   Thundbird/Lightning as client programmes is in this regard similar
   situation like LibreOffice, Yes, Mozilla does not provide a groupware
   server, but - with some quirks - TB can communicate with those (e.g.
   Exchange).
   I think, you are right for big organisations or companies, but for the
   small and medium size organisations/companies the email/PIM client is
   central (e.g. our institute (university) with roughly 100 staff is
 based
  on
   IMAP-Server, shared calendar, shared adress book, shared storage). For
  this
   big target group of organisations/companies, there is basically the
   decision between MS Outlook and Thunderbird/Lightning. And if Outlook
 is
   chosen, the Office suite is MS Office.
  
   [...] But to come back to your suggestion, I think that while the
   development
   or distribution of a mail client alongside LibreOffice might be worth
   thinking about *if the appropriate resources* are available, the
 notion
   that the Document Foundation would take over the development of
   Thunderbird is impractical, and will not become real in any way.
  
   What I am proposing is not to take over the development in any way, my
   suggestion is more in the way of signalling to Mozilla.org that
   TB/Lightning are also very important projects for the future success of
   LibreOffice. And maybe in the direction of promoting the other
   project/product to be the best complement to the own software
  (LibreOffice
   + TB/Lightning = full office suite).
   There are, of course, also interesting features, where the teams could
   cooperate, e.g. the ability to view ODF files directly in Thunderbird.
 Or
   to edit ODF files with LibreOffice from within TB without the hazzle of
   saving_from_email - editing_in_LO - saving_in_LO _
  attach_again_to_email.
  
   Best regards,
   Gerry
  
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Defining a marketing strategy

2012-07-17 Thread Dave Johnson
I agree. Well said.
On Jul 5, 2012 9:36 AM, Charles-H.Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 This might be a long thread and I wish we will all stay on topic, as it
 is an important subject.

 The Document Foundation and the LibreOffice project will soon be two
 years old. Well, not TDF the entity of course, but the LibreOffice
 project. Needless to say, from my perspective at least, it's been two
 years that have changed me, taught me a lot and brought a lot of
 happiness and good moment. We have arrived in many ways at the end of a
 chapter of our story, and by that I don't mean that it's time to go to
 bed and sleep :-).

 The Foundation, as an entity, is properly established, although certain
 processes have yet to be fully set. Some pieces are somewhat lacking,
 but otherwise it's running well. The project is doing well, we have an
 ever increasing flow of volunteers and developers.

 What is missing, at this stage, is some blocks that  are needed to take
 the project to the next step. We have achieved an important thing in
 less than two years: we have proved that a community-led project can be
 strong, sustainable, and is able to turn around situations that were
 previously deemed to difficult to change. We have stopped being seen as
 the young and foolish dreamers that refuse the reality. We are now seen
 as mature, and we have given the world the best free and open source
 software office suite. We can be proud of that. But it's time to move on
 to something bigger.

 We have seen that the transition from OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice has
 generated quite a lot of creative destruction. We kept much content
 from the former Openoffice.org infrastructure, and most of the community
 moved happily to LibreOffice. But in several places, processes that got
 disrupted never quite came back to what they were. And in others, broken
 things or unreached goals have not been reached (yet). Today, on this
 list, I would like to focus on something that took a long time to
 achieve in OpenOffice.org, if it ever was achieved. I'm talking about
 the need to define a marketing strategy. Mind you, we have marketing
 material on the wiki. We have presentation slides, we have visual and
 graphical elements, we have the calendar (thanks Marc!) , the web
 clippings, etc. But that does not make a marketing strategy. What we
 need is higher level goals most of us agree with, and we need a way to
 structure the marketing team, who should not just be marketing contacts
 for this or that region/country, but actual volunteers actively working
 on marketing. Also, we need a way to ackowledge their contribution, or
 rather we need to make their contribution rewarding and pleasant. But
 that's another part of the discussion.

 As I said, we need a marketing strategy. Right now everytime LibreOffice
 gets released we have release notes. These notes are interesting pages
 to be sure, but we need to think and decide how we position ourselves;
 how we communicate our brand in order to raise its awareness, whether we
 push forward a product or a community (or both). We need some higher
 level churn up.

 As for myself -but that's me- I am very interested in how we position
 the brand positioning. I'm not so interested -marketing wise- in product
 strategy, first of all because such a thing does not work in an open
 source project (since you can't really tell a volunteer what to do
 unless you find one that will work things out with you) and second
 because LibreOffice is a complete and full featured office suite
 catering to pretty much any existing and potential market out there. But
 again, it's time to define this strategy and help grow the adoption of
 LibreOffice.

 Apologies for the long message,
 --
 Charles-H. Schulz
 Co-Founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
 Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
 Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
 Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Defining a marketing strategy

2012-07-17 Thread Dave Johnson
I have been trying to market a DVD on local University campus. It is hard
to compete with  the MS mentality.  I have had some  success.
On Jul 17, 2012 12:33 PM, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree. Well said.
 On Jul 5, 2012 9:36 AM, Charles-H.Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 This might be a long thread and I wish we will all stay on topic, as it
 is an important subject.

 The Document Foundation and the LibreOffice project will soon be two
 years old. Well, not TDF the entity of course, but the LibreOffice
 project. Needless to say, from my perspective at least, it's been two
 years that have changed me, taught me a lot and brought a lot of
 happiness and good moment. We have arrived in many ways at the end of a
 chapter of our story, and by that I don't mean that it's time to go to
 bed and sleep :-).

 The Foundation, as an entity, is properly established, although certain
 processes have yet to be fully set. Some pieces are somewhat lacking,
 but otherwise it's running well. The project is doing well, we have an
 ever increasing flow of volunteers and developers.

 What is missing, at this stage, is some blocks that  are needed to take
 the project to the next step. We have achieved an important thing in
 less than two years: we have proved that a community-led project can be
 strong, sustainable, and is able to turn around situations that were
 previously deemed to difficult to change. We have stopped being seen as
 the young and foolish dreamers that refuse the reality. We are now seen
 as mature, and we have given the world the best free and open source
 software office suite. We can be proud of that. But it's time to move on
 to something bigger.

 We have seen that the transition from OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice has
 generated quite a lot of creative destruction. We kept much content
 from the former Openoffice.org infrastructure, and most of the community
 moved happily to LibreOffice. But in several places, processes that got
 disrupted never quite came back to what they were. And in others, broken
 things or unreached goals have not been reached (yet). Today, on this
 list, I would like to focus on something that took a long time to
 achieve in OpenOffice.org, if it ever was achieved. I'm talking about
 the need to define a marketing strategy. Mind you, we have marketing
 material on the wiki. We have presentation slides, we have visual and
 graphical elements, we have the calendar (thanks Marc!) , the web
 clippings, etc. But that does not make a marketing strategy. What we
 need is higher level goals most of us agree with, and we need a way to
 structure the marketing team, who should not just be marketing contacts
 for this or that region/country, but actual volunteers actively working
 on marketing. Also, we need a way to ackowledge their contribution, or
 rather we need to make their contribution rewarding and pleasant. But
 that's another part of the discussion.

 As I said, we need a marketing strategy. Right now everytime LibreOffice
 gets released we have release notes. These notes are interesting pages
 to be sure, but we need to think and decide how we position ourselves;
 how we communicate our brand in order to raise its awareness, whether we
 push forward a product or a community (or both). We need some higher
 level churn up.

 As for myself -but that's me- I am very interested in how we position
 the brand positioning. I'm not so interested -marketing wise- in product
 strategy, first of all because such a thing does not work in an open
 source project (since you can't really tell a volunteer what to do
 unless you find one that will work things out with you) and second
 because LibreOffice is a complete and full featured office suite
 catering to pretty much any existing and potential market out there. But
 again, it's time to define this strategy and help grow the adoption of
 LibreOffice.

 Apologies for the long message,
 --
 Charles-H. Schulz
 Co-Founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
 Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
 Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
 Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint




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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in macworld article.

2012-10-05 Thread Dave Johnson
Page 66 of the November issue mentions LO as Viable alternative to MSO.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice v.0 use of personas

2013-01-19 Thread Dave Johnson
I love the personas!

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 19, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:

 This is mostly for Italo but also may interest the rest of the group.
 
 Italo: If you are speaking at a non-technical conference, you may want to 
 give the audience a quick show as to how implement the use of personas. As an 
 option that has no real functionality value to the suite, as strange as it 
 may seem, this will be a huge hit with kids using our suite! I suspect that 
 it will make the difference between the choice of using MSO or LibreOffice. 
 Kids are usually not really interested at first of the functionality of an 
 office suite, but mostly how they can make it look cool. The use of personas, 
 for a young person, drips immensely of coolness!
 
 I myself, have put on a persona of my choice and like it a lot. I could not 
 imagine going back to the default LibreOffice look. The only critical comment 
 that I have is that I would like the option to be a little more streamlined 
 for use, but I'll probably submit a feature request for this on the bugzilla.
 
 BTW ... people, you should be working with the v.4.0 suite to appreciate all 
 of the new features, there are many! You may want to download/install v.4.0 
 and help out testing out the rc (release candidate) versions as the QA 
 (Quality Assurance) team needs to hear of any problems that you may 
 encounter. If you find any bugs, let us know and we will show you how to file 
 them or to look in the list of current bugs to see if it has already been 
 submitted.
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Marc
 
 
 -- 
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 m...@marcpare.com
 http://www.parEntreprise.com
 parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-27 Thread Dave Johnson
+1 that great!  Thanks..
On Jan 27, 2013 7:41 AM, Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com
wrote:

 +1  to Libreoffice. Tools for real life..

 But I would change it to Libreoffice. *Free *tools for real life..


 
 M. / Mr. Immanuel Giulea, BComm
 Brossard, QC
 514-577-2669


 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.comwrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Date: Jan 26, 2013 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0
 To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 I have stated a slogan some time ago... Libreoffice. Tools for real
 life..
 On Jan 26, 2013 11:18 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

  Hello,
 
  As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of messaging
  (aside nice graphical elements):
  *  the PR itself, announcing the release
  *  the features page, directly based on the release notes on the wiki
  *  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements for anyone
checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta - features
are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of the
release, and turn them not into specific and well described features,
but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active marketing
team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought were the
top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and turn them
into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release.
 
  You can see the result there:
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
  (aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write ten more
  features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel there's
  something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must have a hole
  in our heads for not having picked this or that feature.
 
  Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to the
  website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The deadline is
  Monday 5 pm CET.
 
  Thanks,
 
  --
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  Co-founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
  Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [V.4.0 ACTION ITEMS] Re: Messaging for the 4.0

2013-02-03 Thread Dave Johnson
What is the new slogan?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:

 Just getting back to this. How are we doing?
 
 Le 2013-01-28 12:10, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 11:59 -0500, Marc Paré a écrit :
 Le 2013-01-26 12:18, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of messaging
 (aside nice graphical elements):
 *  the PR itself, announcing the release
 *  the features page, directly based on the release notes on the wiki
 *  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements for anyone
checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta - features
are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of the
release, and turn them not into specific and well described features,
but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active marketing
team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought were the
top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and turn them
into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release.
 
 You can see the result there:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
 (aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write ten more
 features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel there's
 something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must have a hole
 in our heads for not having picked this or that feature.
 
 Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to the
 website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The deadline is
 Monday 5 pm CET.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Charles: At this point, is there anything else that you need for this page?
 
 
 I don't think so. In terms of material we need:
 - the final visual elements (splashscreens, etc.)
 
 -- splashscreen has been rescheduled for one of the next update to v.4.0 
 perhaps v4.1
 
 - screenshots
 
 -- are the screenshots from the v.4.0 sufficient enough? Why do we need these 
 for the marketing team?
 
 - one video
 
 -- CMIS video by Leig -- done! Good job too! Thanks Leif
 
 - the website (well under way at least for the temporary homepage).
 
 -- we still need to see a newere update, preferably on the staging site. Some 
 members (Michael Meeks) would like to see if before the release date, and on 
 the staging site if possible.
 
 - the slogan (private marketing list)
 
 -- slogan done and will appear on the release date.
 
 - the features page
 
 -- features page is done for EN. The DE, FR, ES teams are hard at work and 
 will probably have theirs done by the release date. Not sure about the PT-BR 
 team (Eliane ???), I have not heard of any other teams who are working to 
 have their features page ready by the release date (the dev release date says 
 it will be Feb 6 BUT this is only if the latest versions are good, not sure 
 yet if the latest is good ... Tim submitted a problem with printers not 
 showing up in the printer list on Win version. Doh!
 
 
 Side items such as interviews are on a separate track.
 
 -- interviews -- not sure if the release date interviews will be ready? 
 Charles
 
 
 When we have the visual elements, the slogan I'll pack them up with the
 text (see my previous mail) of the meta features and the website team
 will use them for the new pages.
 
 Best,
 
 Charles.
 
 Are there any other items that we should work on?
 
 Marc
 
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] new LibO flyer

2013-02-07 Thread Dave Johnson

http://www.davefilms.us/libreofficeflyer.png

Here is a new flyer I cooked up. Need some feedback.

Dave Johnson
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charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 We're waiting for a few more (hopefully):
 http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/07/libreoffice-4-0-released-just-in-time-for-office-365-refugees/
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] new LibO flyer

2013-02-07 Thread Dave Johnson
That's the point. It is supposed to make you think of MSO but choose LibO. The 
unconscious association of the two office products. This will possibly get 
people to try LibO instead of MSO here in the US.


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  http://www.davefilms.us/libreofficeflyer.png
 
  Here is a new flyer I cooked up. Need some feedback.
 
 The Writer 2013 looks to much like an MS product
 
 The LibreOffice logo get lost on that background, maybe using a white 
 variation.
 
 
 
 
 
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 Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. 
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[libreoffice-marketing] New flyer for LibO

2013-02-07 Thread Dave Johnson
http://www.davefilms.us/libreofficeflyer.png

Here is a new flyer I cooked up. Need some feedback.

Dave Johnson
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[libreoffice-marketing] GNU PDF logo..

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Johnson
Our friends at the free software foundation would like it if we used the
GNU PDF logo vice Adobe's. .

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] GNU PDF logo..

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Johnson
Then... DJVue? Can we add support for DJVue?

Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2013, at 19:37, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:

 because is not the logo of PDF files, but of the GNU PDF project (which is a 
 completely different thing)
 
 LibreOffice writes and reads PDF files, and PDF - when referred to the file 
 format - is an Adobe trademark with a specific icon (I have been the main 
 spokesperson for PDF in Italy from 1992 to 1997, so I know quite a bit about 
 PDF)
 
 Italo Vignoli
 Sent from Mobile
 
 On 16/mag/2013, at 01:40, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So... You are not liking the idea of cross support? Why is it wrong to use 
 the GNU PDF logo on web pages vice the adobe logo?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2013, at 17:39, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Il 16/05/2013 00:01, Dave Johnson ha scritto:
 Our friends at the free software foundation would like it if we used the
 GNU PDF logo vice Adobe's.
 
 FSF sits on TDF Advisory Board, and John Sullivan has not raised the issue 
 in that environment.
 
 The logo is for the GNU PDF project, which is not representative of the PDF 
 standard file format registered by Adobe in 1992.
 
 GNU PDF is a GNU project that aims to completely implement the Portable 
 Document Format standards in free software, which is something quite 
 different from the file format represented by the Adobe icon.
 
 By the way, although LibreOffice is free software and reads and writes PDF, 
 it is not listed by the GNU PDF project amongst free software.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Table World Cup 2014 in LibreOffice Calc

2014-01-28 Thread Dave Barton
Klaibson Ribeiro wrote:
 Hi.

 The available the Table of World Cup 2014, created in the LibreOffice Calc.

 The link for download is http://goo.gl/ai2S8Z

 Good luck for your team national.

Nice, but why did you feel it was important to password protect it?



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[libreoffice-marketing] Bern Conference 2014?

2014-02-28 Thread Dave Barton
Other than a few snippets gleaned from this list about a logo, there
appears to be very little information available about the next
conference. Presumably Bern won as the only contender, but I cannot find
any announcement about this and there have been no posts at all on the
conference mailing list since last October. Are we shy, or is this to be
a secret conference :).

It seems that the conference will be held in Bern from the 2nd. or maybe
the 3rd September (even Elaine is questioning this) until the 5th
September. According to the conference pad:
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/conference arrangements and
organisation should be well under way by now. So can we please publish
some definite information, including the venue(s) in Bern.

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I have never been able to attend
a LO conference and I would really like to make it this year.

Regards
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Bern Conference 2014?

2014-03-01 Thread Dave Barton
Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 
 Dave Barton wrote on 2014-03-01 01:27:
 Other than a few snippets gleaned from this list about a logo, there
 appears to be very little information available about the next
 conference. Presumably Bern won as the only contender, but I cannot find
 
 have you seen this
 http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2014/02/13/libreoffice-conference-2014-in-bern-switzerland-from-september-2-to-september-5-2014/
 , which was also sent to the announce list? ;-)
 
 Florian

Thanks Florin  Italo,

Strange, I am subscribed to the announce list and I have been looking
out for anything to do with the conference, so it seems I somehow missed
Italo's post.

I am not much of a blog follower, but I will be looking at the TDF Blog
more closely in future.

Regards
Dave


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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Gets An Unexpected Endorsement

2014-03-20 Thread Dave Barton
I thought it may be of interest to know that on last Tuesday's (March
18, 2014) episode #447 of the Security Now podcast, LibreOffice got a
surprise mention in a section about Microsoft's termination of support
for Windows XP:

Quote
Also, Office exploits are a problem. I would drop Office and switch over
to one of the open offices, and everyone says LibreOffice is the one.
Apparently it forked off of OpenOffice some time ago. And I guess Sun or
Oracle got bored and decided, okay, fine, we're going to let go of it.
So LibreOffice is the one you want.  And of course keep that current.
/Quote

Video  audio: http://twit.tv/show/security-now/447
Transcript: https://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice pencil box

2014-04-15 Thread Dave Barton
Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:
 Comments, ideas  improvements are welcome
 
 https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files/download/Shared/Common/Marketing/images/pencil%20box.svg

Daniel, I doubt you will get much feedback, because only a small number
of people have access to TDF ownCloud. Why not put it somewhere more
readily accessible to anyone who may be interested?

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events in 2015 - New wikipage created

2014-10-05 Thread Dave Barton
Marc Paré wrote:
 Also, I update the visual Google Calendar
 [https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar]. It is nice when
 people let me know of any impending events as I will fill them in on the
 calendar. I also cruise on the other lists where some list members
 mention LibreOffice dates.
  
 Cheers,
 
 Marc

Hi Marc,

Thanks for your work keeping the calendar updated. It's very handy to
know at-a-glance what's happening around the project.

I have my Lightning calendar synced with
https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/libreoffice.parentreprise.com%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
but it seems this doesn't pick up things like the TDF/LibreOffice
Quality Assurance (QA) Meetings Am I using the wrong ics file, or is not
possible to sync these other events?

Best Regards
Dave




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Presentation on Libre Office latest features

2015-07-26 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Chandrakant Dhutadmal
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:32:55 + (UTC)

 Hi All.
 Can anybody point me towards a presentation with latest Libre Office features 
 added into it ?
 I am gonna talk about Libre Office in a school in Mumbai tomorrow. 
 
 Regards,Chandrakant Dhutadmal.

Not a Prepared Presentation, but these pages should help:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.4
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Visual Identity of LibreOffice Ecosystem

2021-03-30 Thread Dave Johnson
Can we have a “ made with libreoffice”badge?
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 16:10 Italo Vignoli  wrote:

> We have started brainstorming about the development of a visual identity
> for the LibreOffice Ecosystem, to help the recognition of companies and
> individuals developing products based on the LibreOffice Technology or
> doing business around LibreOffice.
>
> We would like to get community members' opinions about this idea. Having
> a visual identity would have a positive effect, as it would help
> recognizing LibreOffice Ecosystem members, and would help TDF marketing
> in supporting the annoucements under a single umbrella.
>
> We are open to other opinions, and before launching a contest - based on
> the experience of the anniversary visual - for the development of a logo
> we would like to understand if the community feels it appropriate to
> have such a visual identity (based on the logo).
>
> Discussion is open on this list until April 20, in order to be able to
> provide a summary for the following BoD meeting on April 23.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted

2011-09-15 Thread Dave Johnson USN-FR (HM2)
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Just FYI, the OOo extensions we-page is NOT reliable. The link in LibO
is still to the OOo page.

BTW I go to University and, sadly, MS Office docx format is a
requirement. So, please continue to support this feature. I know the
ODF purist will object. It is needed.

On 9/15/11 1:55 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote:
 Hi Kami,
 
 Am Donnerstag, 15. September 2011, 11:23:22 schrieb KAMI911
 KAMI911:
 Hi,
 
 Should I upload templates and extensions for testing?
 
 yes, but be aware they'll stay if we change from beta to final
 state ;-)
 
 Thus we need a contact (email or project site) for every extension
 / template.
 
 Regards, Andreas
 

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