Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Simon Phipps]

Hi Mike!



On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:52 AM Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

>
> Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable,
> transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas :-)
>

We have had good responses to custom cupcakes at events around the world
this year - they have the advantage of being locally sourced so you don't
have to travel with them!  I've not ordered any for Brussels events so
don't have a recommendation based on experience, but this supplier has been
tempting me (especially the mini cupcakes):
https://www.lilicup.be/en/events

Cheers

Simon

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] WordPad being removed from future Windows releases

[Simon Phipps]

Thanks for posting this, Mike. I do think a blog post would be worthwhile,
perhaps developing a theme of Microsoft abandoning the self-sovereign
desktop as we go - a theme I suspect several developments would fit into.

One small thought on the Mastodon posts. With no god-like Algorithm to
expose posts to new readers, we need to use hashtags in every post to make
sure things get read. Perhaps add in #FOSS #FLOSS #OpenSource
#SoftwareFreedom #Office for this one?

Cheers

Simon

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 1:14 PM Mike Saunders <
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> Hi all,
>
> We just posted this:
>
> https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice/111006775317460118
>
> https://twitter.com/LibreOffice/status/1698667799667769626
>
> Maybe it's worth doing a blog post / page on the site as well, to
> capture searches from people looking for WordPad
> replacements/alternatives. What do you think?
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Advocating for open standards

[Simon Phipps]

Hi Thibault,

If you would also like a short discussion about how ODF is developed and
funded (which is quite unusual in the field of standards) I would be happy
to talk about the COSM project.
https://publicsoftware.eu/members/cosm-project/

Cheers

Simon

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 3:39 PM Italo Vignoli  wrote:

> Hi Thibault,
>
> Yes, of course, I am happy to join.
>
> Can I use a short presentation about ODF?
>
> Best regards, Italo
>
> On 4/19/22 15:55, Thibault Martin wrote:
> > Hello LibreOffice marketing,
> >
> > I work for Element <https://element.io/>, one of the popular Matrix
> clients. We organise monthly events called Open Tech Will Save Us <
> https://matrix.org/open-tech-will-save-us/>. The goal of those events is
> to try to understand the social impact software has on our societies, and
> how libre software and open standards can make it more positive.
> >
> > As for the format, it consists of an online event where three guests
> come to talk for 20 to 30 minutes about their project and how it’s related
> to the theme of the episode. The host then picks questions from the
> audience and asks them to the guests.
> >
> > Our next episode is going to be on open standards, and The Document
> Foundation naturally comes to mind! Would somebody be available on
> Wednesday 27 between 18:00 and 20:00 CEST, to have a live streamed
> conversation about LibreOffice, The Document Foundation, the OpenDocument
> format and why they matter?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Thib
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're different" part of new LibreOffice website

[Simon Phipps]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:34 PM James Harking 
wrote:

>  I have to hand it to them their
> adoption of the format was very quickly done after the Oasis ratification.
>

They participate in the ODF TC these days, and they co-funded the editing
of the 1.3 specification with TDF and afew others, so they are actively
tracking the standard. Most of the arguments against them on the topic are
related to more subtle incompatibilities such as default fonts (and their
metrics and IP regime), document management, encryption and their regional
marketing.

Cheers

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Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're different" part of new LibreOffice website

[Simon Phipps]

This recent McKinsey article does an excellent job explaining the value of
open source to enterprises:
https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/mckinsey-digital/our-insights/open-source-e-commerce-the-next-wave-of-value-for-the-enterprise

Cheers

S.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 2:20 PM Paolo Debortoli 
wrote:

> Hi. I strongly agree. I think that the message should be mainly like the
> One posted for Red Hat Linux: "develop with us' (like for the features you
> need); second bringing testimonials from institutions (like gen Solo from
> italian army or the city of Munich, but not only); then talk about
> scalability, compatibility, ability to spread (e.g. office, home, school).
> Documentation and tutorial are important for institutions and professionals.
> Some people for example Say Linux Is Better than Windows thanks to Better
> documentation and tutorials.
> 'free of charge' doesn't seem a very good motivatiion.
> Thanks.
> Paolo
>
>   Il lun, 6 dic, 2021 alle 23:26, James Harking
> ha scritto:   Hi Marc,
>
> I'm a huge fan of Project Libre in general, although the aesthetics have
> always seemed a little off to me, such as the large logo in the left corner
> and the icons used, nit picking I guess and  just a personal opinion.
>
> What I wanted to highlight from this post is that there are a number of
> complementary FLOSS projects that could naturally work together with some
> collaboration. This would benefit everyone, I read a mail also a few weeks
> ago about the ex maintainer of Mozilla Thunderbird creating a soft fork
> (Betterbird) that is more focused and quicker to resolve bugs while
> sticking to upstream.
>
> If all these projects support and promote each other then you will be
> greater than the sum of your parts. I think when municipalities and
> organisations are looking for replacements for Microsoft Office you need a
> wider spread of software and some cross promotion will make all>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Using a LibreOffice branded Twitter account to disseminate information on ecosystem partners

[Simon Phipps]

Likewise I think sharing good news about the LibreOffice ecosystem that
involves TDF members' work is a great thing.

Cheers

Simon


On Sun, 7 Mar 2021, 18:03 Italo Vignoli,  wrote:

> We must avoid sales pitches, but I don't see the issue for informative
> tweets.
>
> On 3/5/21 10:00 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Thanks to help from Mke S. I;ve managed to get back into the
> > LbreOfficeUS twitter account and am looking forward to posting there
> > again.
> >
> > Recently I have posted a number of times on my personal twitter
> > account about ecosystem partners (Collabora and CIB/Alloptopia, etc).
> >
> > My question is if is appropriate to continue these ecosystem centric
> > posts using the LibreOfficeUS account?
> >
> > I have a few specific items in mind but would like to ask this as a
> > general question first.
> >
> > thanks for you time,
> >
> > Drew
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Comments to Proposals

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 3:18 PM Marc Paré  wrote:

> Le 2020-11-12 à 09 h 28, Simon Phipps a écrit :
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 2:31 PM Mike Saunders <
> > mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I made this mock-up for a download page update (of course, the "Edition"
> >> tagline is still open for discussion):
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/download_page_concept.png
> >>
> >> But I think something like that would be good: segment users early on,
> >> pushing businesses towards the ecosystem offerings, while making it
> >> clear that the TDF version only has community support. But still giving
> >> everyone the freedom to do what they choose.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >
> > Lovely work, as ever Mike! Thanks for doing it.
> >
> > The problem with both the "Community Edition" tag and the whole approach
> > becomes much clearer with this illustration though. There is absolutely
> no
> > reason I and the two people I work with in my business should not use
> this
> > version, but the wording comes across as quite hostile to us. We are not
> > (in this role) technology enthusiasts, early adopters or power users, but
> > neither do we fit in the old-fashioned view of a "business user" arising
> > from the old days when people worked in offices and had an IT department.
> >
> > We just want it to deal with the dinosaurs who don't operate purely
> online
> > like we do! We are never going to pay for a support contract, and as far
> as
> > I know there is no-one offering case-based paid support anyway. If we
> loved
> > the product we would probably want to make "gratitude" payments to
> > developers occasionally.
> >
> > The description that would apply to our use is "Unsupported
> > official edition", making clear there is absolutely no problem for us to
> > use this download and that we can't expect any help beyond Googling it if
> > we have problems.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Simon
> >
> Simon, I am a little concerned that we are starting to mix more and more
> our open source project which is a non-profit/charitable entity and
> enterprise. In Canada we have strict laws governing charitable entities
> where one who has a conflict of interest is usually not able to "profit"
> from any discussions at board level. Thus, in many discussion/decisions
> at board level, anyone with conflict of interest must recuse themselves
> from any discussions/decisions. As well, a charitable entity has to be
> careful when getting involved in any kind of "for-profit" actions as
> this may cause the revocation of the charitable status of the group.
>
> I am not sure of any other countries that may have similar laws/rules as
> in Canada, but, the TDF and LibreOffice may want to be careful in how it
> involves itself in "for-profit" ventures as it may have legal liability
> issues for anyone participating or seeking to join the TDF board where
> they may find themselves, as per their own native country laws on
> charitable board rules. I am not sure, but even if the TDF is regulated
> by German laws, that, should any liability issues arise against any TDF
> board member from another country, there may arise a case where one
> could apply the member's native country's charitable laws.
>
> There should be a clear separation of charitable from enterprise
> involvement of both.
>
> Perhaps you could tell us if this should be considered before we start
> getting the TDF/LibreOffice more involved in preparing any enterprise
> marketing plans. We should be careful as to not put any of our board
> members role on the board in any kind of jeopardy.
>

I'm unclear why you are addressing this to me? I am responding to the
proposal to segment for business use (by saying much business use is in
fact indistinguishable from personal use), not advocating it. We should not
be using any terminology that would discourage a new user of the software.

That's also why I very much dislike the term "Community Edition" as it is
closely associated with the monetisation of software by an "open core"
approach, something TDF has no time for.

S.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Comments to Proposals

[Simon Phipps]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 2:31 PM Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

>
> I made this mock-up for a download page update (of course, the "Edition"
> tagline is still open for discussion):
>
>
> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/download_page_concept.png
>
> But I think something like that would be good: segment users early on,
> pushing businesses towards the ecosystem offerings, while making it
> clear that the TDF version only has community support. But still giving
> everyone the freedom to do what they choose.
>
> What do you think?


Lovely work, as ever Mike! Thanks for doing it.

The problem with both the "Community Edition" tag and the whole approach
becomes much clearer with this illustration though. There is absolutely no
reason I and the two people I work with in my business should not use this
version, but the wording comes across as quite hostile to us. We are not
(in this role) technology enthusiasts, early adopters or power users, but
neither do we fit in the old-fashioned view of a "business user" arising
from the old days when people worked in offices and had an IT department.

We just want it to deal with the dinosaurs who don't operate purely online
like we do! We are never going to pay for a support contract, and as far as
I know there is no-one offering case-based paid support anyway. If we loved
the product we would probably want to make "gratitude" payments to
developers occasionally.

The description that would apply to our use is "Unsupported
official edition", making clear there is absolutely no problem for us to
use this download and that we can't expect any help beyond Googling it if
we have problems.

Cheers!

Simon

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Edition Matter

[Simon Phipps]

It certainly (correctly) indicates there are unofficial editions in
circulation. I see that as a helpful differentiator. I would not jump to
the conclusion they are untrustworthy; however, the use of a validated
"Libreoffice technology" signifier as Italo has proposed would fix that if
it were a problem for other editions to confirm they too are approved by
TDF.

The term "Community Edition" is very commonly used to differentiate
feature-limited versions so if I had to choose, I would rather our version
was considered strong because we use an "Official Edition" tag rather than
the software produced by others being considered stronger because we use a
"Community Edition" tag.

Cheers,

Simon

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 3:16 PM Nigel Verity 
wrote:

> Doesn't this imply there are some unofficial and, thereby, untrustworthy
> editions in circulation?
>
> Nige
>
> > On 23 Oct 2020, at 06:44, Simon Phipps  wrote:
> >
> > Taking on board all the concerns about not giving the impression of a
> > weaker version, and if "no label" is really not an option, how about
> > calling TDF's package "official edition"?
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Edition Matter

[Simon Phipps]

Taking on board all the concerns about not giving the impression of a
weaker version, and if "no label" is really not an option, how about
calling TDF's package "official edition"?

S.

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020, 14:31 Marc Paré,  wrote:

> Perhaps Italo could chime in and inform us if having "no label is not an
> option". We have to be consistent in a marketing plan, whether short or
> long-term.
>
> But, for me, the preference would be to continue with no label if this
> is an option, however, if a label is needed, "Community Edition" is what
> I would prefer. From my perspective, there is no negative connotation,
> the public will get exactly what it is, a version of LibreOffice built
> by members of the volunteer community and used by the members of the
> TDF/LibreOffice. I don't believe that new-comers to LibreOffice site
> will see the "LibreOffice Community Edition" as a negative, as long as
> our website messaging is clear on the TDF and LibreOffice Mission
> Statements.
>
> As for any commercial versions of LibreOffice, then "Powered by" is
> still my preferred, regardless of any community label.
>
> But, really, Italo should chime in and set us straight, again, and
> inform us if going with no label is an option. There is nothing wrong
> with going back on a marketing plan, but as long as we are being
> consistent in our planning discussions. More members need to chime in on
> this important discussion ... I am surprised that non of the board
> members nor any of the implicated commercially-connected members are not
> participating in this discussion that was called by Italo. Especially
> when Italo has set a deadline date for the discussion and then
> membership vote. More members need to be informed that this discussion
> is taking place; just so that the membership all get to have their say.
>
> Marc
>
> Le 2020-10-23 à 07 h 40, Justin Luth a écrit :
> > +1 to what Uwe and Michael and Telesto have been saying.
> >
> > Personal / Community are not accurate labels because they imply
> > missing features. LibreOffice as we currently know it is full
> > featured. By introducing these labels, you are signaling an intent to
> > "dumb down" LibreOffice.
> >
> > The current real distinction is around support.  So, using Linux
> > terminology, a more accurate label would be LibreOffice Rolling verses
> > LibreOffice LTS.  But that is geeky terminology, so for that reason it
> > probably isn't appropriate.
> >
> > Therefore since none of the suggested labels properly convey meaning,
> > I too prefer the supposedly unavailable "no label" solution for TDF
> > builds.
> >
> > Justin
> >
> >
> > On 10/21/20 11:52 AM, Uwe Altmann wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Am 20.10.20 um 10:50 schrieb Michael Weghorn:
> >>
> >>> If "no label is not an option" (as stated by Italo), I'd currently
> >>> prefer something like "TDF Edition" over "Personal Edition" or
> >>> "Community Edition" as well, given the negative/misleading connotations
> >>> the latter may result in.
> >> "no label is not an option" is Italos and some others - professional
> >> as I have to admit - option. But "no label" also still is an option -
> >> no decision made yet.
> >>
> >> And imho no label is the preferred option (as stated in past).
> >> Uwe Altmann
> >>
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Anti-Spam Measures for Our Telegram Groups

[Simon Phipps]

Thanks so much for handling this!

S.


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:21 AM Muhammet Kara  wrote:

> Hi all! :)
>
> We constantly get spam on our telegram groups, especially the larger
> ones. So we are discussing to bring some anti-spam measures to remedy
> this via telegram bots.
>
> In short, I propose to add a simple new-joiner verifier bot at first. It
> will just verify new-joiners without interfering messages from the
> present members. If user doesn't verify himself/herself with a simpel
> reply in time, he/she will be kicked out of the group. And new joiners
> will not be able to send anything other than plain text messages for the
> first 24 hours. More over, it can greet new-comers with a custom welcome
> message. It is completely reversible, and we can fine-tune or replace it
> at any time.
>
> Please feel free to head to the test group to see it in action:
> https://t.me/joinchat/E0IDnBjmzkCx3mWYgqPOPQ
>
> And please feel free to join us in the Marketing telegram channel to
> follow the discussion/status or give input about the topic:
> https://t.me/LibreOfficeMarketing
>
> (The discussion originally started in the Documentation telegram group,
> with major involvement also by Emiliano Vavassori and Dennis Roczek.
> Because it was lengthy, and in a free-format talk form, I couldn't
> include in here. You may head to the Documentation group, and start
> reading from "Maybe we should add an anti-spam bot here.":
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>
> Best,
> Muhammet
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Sticker designs and merchandise ideas for FOSDEM

[Simon Phipps]

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:50 PM Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote

>
> If anyone has ideas or mockups, we'd love to see them :-)
>

Quite a few people have been making tile-able hexagon stickers, so some in
that format would be smart - both a basic folded-paper-logo design and
something clever.


> Also, we're thinking of other merchandise ideas for our booth at FOSDEM.
>

FIDO U2F keys, especially in USB C format, would be awesome. I've seen
branded ones but not found anyone who makes them for a reasonable price.

A LibreOffice Writer branded Perpetua pencil would be cool:
https://www.perpetua.it/en/

Would it be worth exploring the idea of selling coupons in advance through
a web store and having people collect the goods in Brussels, with limited
excess stock for walk-in customers? That way we wouldn't have so much left
over at the end. This would be especially applicable to one-off goods like
special t-shirts.

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Speaking ot OggCamp

[Simon Phipps]

I just agreed to give a main-track talk at OggCamp <https://oggcamp.org> in
Manchester, England on October 19 about TDF's two sustainability
initiatives.

*Title*: Making Free Productivity Software Sustainable

*Abstract*:  Productivity software like LibreOffice has long been sustained
by the commercial activities of community members as well as the
contributions of countless volunteers. That's also driven standards
engagement, like the work around Open Document Format (ODF). But the cloud
is slowly strangling the desktop support business, and spare-time
volunteers may not be enough for complex, mature software. The Document
Foundation has been innovating to sustain LibreOffice and ODF; this talk
will describe the COSM
<https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2019/07/02/the-cosm-project/> and
TDC projects, and ask whether similar approaches might sustain other open
source desktop software.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New header image for social media channels

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I like both of these. I would encourage others to consider that:

   - This is just the header image. It does not need to include a
   comprehensive message house
   - Earnest messages can appear ingenuous to newcomers. Simple wins.

Personally I would go with either of these as is for now and see how things
go.

S.

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Currently the header image for our Twitter and Facebook pages looks like
> this:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/TKEKv69.jpg
>
> Recently, Andreas Kainz from the design community updated the icons for
> the various components of LibreOffice, as shown here:
>
> https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-
> content/uploads/sites/2/2018/08/WhatsNewFig4a.png
>
> So based on them, I've created a new header image, which also adds a bit
> of information about the software using our familiar tagline, and
> encourages people to get involved:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/mY2essw.png
>
> What do you think? We could also translate it for social media on native
> language projects...
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine 27 is released

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Looks great - thanks for publishing this, Eliane!  I wish it was available
in other languages.

With season's greetings!

Simon

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa <
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> Dear all,
>
> It is with great satisfaction and pride that the Brazilian LibreOffice
> Community launches the december edition of LibreOffice Magazine. The
> Magazine is only in Portuguese!!!
>
> We wish a season greetings, with much peace, harmony and love.
>
> About the LibreOffice Magazine 27: https://pt-br.blog.documentfou
> ndation.org/2017/12/22/ho-ho-ho-libreoffice-magazine-27-e-lancada/
>
> Best regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Do you know who is trying to "take" my LibreOffice-NA domain?

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On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY <
webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote:

>
> I see some scams, but none like this, if it is a scam.  To be honest, the
> set of emails do not ask me to pay anything or do anything.


If you respond they will likely tell you that unless you make long
registrations of LibreOffice-NA.* (where * is every TLD they offer) the
alleged Chinese company will do so and you will have no recourse. I don't
know anyone who has proceeded so I don't know what happens after that but
you can be sure there will be further essential fees, legal demands and so
on.

It never happens. They are just trying to scam you out of unwanted domain
registrations with auto-renew.

S.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Do you know who is trying to "take" my LibreOffice-NA domain?

[Simon Phipps]

This is a common scam. I usually just delete emails like this.

S.

On 28 Jul 2017 3:35 pm, "Tim-L--Elmira-NY" 
wrote:

>
> I have been receiving emails from one of the Chinese domain registries.
> Some company is trying to register LibreOffice-na.cn and most of the
> LibreOffice-na.com.cn - where "COM" is changes to ORG, NET, and others.
>
> I have been told by the registry that this Chinese company is avid that
> they want to have all of the possible LibreOffice-NA domains and want that
> registry to force me to give up my LibreOffice-NA.US domain since it is
> their "company keyword" or trademark.  Since I have had my domain for
> several years, and this Chinese company is just starting up - so I believe
> from the emails - so I have the "keyword" and "fair-use trademark".
>
> SO, have anyone in this list know of any Chinese LibreOffice "company"
> wanting to use LibreOffice-NA as part of their domain?
>
> I use it myself and it is a shortened name meaning the following:
>
> LibreOffice-NA.US
>
> LibreOffice - North America - in the USA.
>
> I really like to know what is going on with the info I am getting from
> China stating that someone is trying to register my domain name and wanting
> me to give it up.
>
> Currently, I am not doing much with that domain, but hope to have some
> add-ons for LibreOffice - like my specialized color palettes. I do have
> some palettes created, but they are not quite ready for full publishing.
> Also I need to remember where Win10 and Linux RPM "hides" the color
> palettes.  I know where Linux DEB "hides" these files.
>
> Tim L.
>
> North America - USA -> New York -> Finger Lakes region -> Elmira.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine 26 released

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Congratulations! Looks great, wish I could read it!

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa <
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> Hello Community
>
> I am not dead. :)
>
>
> I am proud to announce the immediate availability of the 26th edition of
> our LibreOffice Magazine.
>
> This edition was dedicated to the LibreOffice Documentation project.
>
> I want to thank all participating collaborators of this edition. I know it
> is not easy to find time to dedicate to the Magazine project, but you did
> it by sharing your knowledge.
>
> Special thanks to Vera Cavalcante for her brilliant work on revising,
> editing and on the magazine layout, and to Leandro Ferro for the
> extraordinary magazine cover page.
>
> To @ll authors, congratulations for this edition. Let's begin working on
> the 27th edition.
>
> Download LibreOffice Magazine 27 here (Portuguese only):
> https://pt-br.libreoffice.org/projetos/revista/
>
> Free and kind regards
>
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>
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libo-marketing-priv] Banners for Season Gift

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Pacco2 (first one), definitely.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Italo Vignoli 
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> ASAP and left on the website until early next year. Can you please
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] A LibreOffice migration example in Japan

[Simon Phipps]

Many thanks for sharing this!  Has there been any media coverage of the
migration?

Best regards,

Simon

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Naruhiko Ogasawara naru...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to share a good case study of LibreOffice Migration in Japan,
 and I hope here is a right place to do this.

 In Japan, we have some users, which migrated to LibreOffice as their
 primary office suite.

 The JA (Japan Agricultural) Fukuoka-city is one of the greatest
 examples of successful migration.  Mr. Watanabe had been an IT manager
 of them, who had lead the migration to LibreOffice, and he is still
 passionate to LibreOffice community, as if he already left the
 position.

 Here is a great slide about the JA Fukuoka-city by Mr. Watanabe.  I
 believe it's worth to read.  Enjoy!

 http://www.slideshare.net/kouwatanabe/advice-to-liibreoffice-migration

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Conference Marketing: Upgrading LibreOffice/OpenOffice

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I have had a lot of positive responses on social media to reminding people
to replace their ancient copy of OpenOffice.org with the nice, fresh,
feature-rich version of LibreOffice that just came out each time it does.

S.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 UPGRADING LIBREOFFICE/OPENOFFICE

 I keep on meeting people who are using an ancient version of
 LibreOffice or OpenOffice. Aside from physically handing people a CD
 or USB stick with a modern version of LibreOffice,
 = what are some good ways for us to encourage people to upgrade to
 the latest LibreOffice?

 = What do people think about some kind of campaign to upgrade to the
 latest version of LibreOffice? (This is something that could tie-in
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[libreoffice-marketing] InfoWorld Today

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My column today:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2687117/open-source-software/libreoffice-code-ten-times-better-than-proprietary.html

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Supporters all over the world

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That is tremendous, yes. I'm also excited by the way the Brazil-based
LibreOffice Magazine is becoming more international by embracing other
languages:

http://blog.pt-br.libreoffice.org/2014/09/09/libreoffice-magazine-13-call-for-papers/

S.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have looked, from where the supports on http://ask.libreoffice.org
 come. Not all of them have set the state flag, but from the one hundred
 with the most karma I have got

 Australia
 Austria
 Belgium
 Bosnia and Herzegovina
 Brazil
 Canada
 China
 Croatia
 Denmark
 Estonia
 Finland
 France
 Germany
 Japan
 Netherlands
 Nicaragua
 Norway
 Philippines
 Poland
 Portugal
 Serbia
 Spain
 Thailand
 Ukraine
 United Kingdom
 United States

 Isn't that fantastic?

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice mention in Fortune

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Only small, but it's something :-)

http://fortune.com/2014/06/13/the-one-asterisk-on-teslas-patent-giveaway/


S.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Announcing the Community Leadership Summit 2014

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If anyone from TDF (apart from me...) is going, I expect to organise
sessions both at CLS and at OSCON on How to start an open source
foundation. I did this last year and it was well received. We got
representatives from a range of different styles of organisation and each
provided information on their experiences. A TDF speaker would be most
welcome.

S.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I attended this event the past two years and recommend it highly. IMO
 anyone interested in community building for LibreOffice would benefit
 from attending. If you can then stay on for OSCON, so much the better.

 As the note says, attendance at CLS is free. Though, of course, you
 would need to consider travel and accommodation costs, but TDF might
 be able to cover (or at least help with) those. I can't go to either
 event this year, but I wish I could.

 --Jean


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 From: Jono Bacon j...@jonobacon.org
 Date: Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 4:30 AM
 Subject: Announcing the Community Leadership Summit 2014

 Hi Everyone,

 We just announced the Community Leadership Summit 2014, taking place
 on Fri 18th and Sat 19th July 2014 at the Oregon Convention Center in
 Portland, Oregon. Again the event takes place the two days before
 OSCON. More information is available on our website at
 http://communityleadershipsummit.com/

 You may notice that the event is happening on a Friday and Saturday
 this year instead of on a Saturday and Sunday. This is because this
 year OSCON starts a day earlier on the Sunday, so we are now starting
 a day earlier on the Friday.

 As usual the Community Leadership Summit is entirely free to attend
 (although free registration is required), and open and welcome to
 everyone. The website at http://communityleadershipsummit.com/ has
 been updated and I would encourage you to go and register
 (http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/register/).

 If you could please share the event on your social networks, that
 would be wonderful. We usually use the hashtag #cls.

 Every year we work to evolve and refine the event, and this year is no
 exception. We have a diverse audience, and we are making some
 refinements to make navigating the schedule easier and making the
 sessions more relevant to attendees. We are also exploring other
 non-unconference content.

 What will make the event better than ever is your feedback! I have
 kicked off a discussion on our new Community Leadership Summit forum
 at
 http://communityleadershipsummit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=24p=73#p73
 - we would welcome and encourage your feedback.

 I hope to see you at this years event - it is shaping up to be the best
 CLS yet!

 Thanks,

Jono

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[libreoffice-marketing] Suse Collabora Story

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I posted a LibreOffice story on InfoWorld today;
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/suse-drops-libreoffice-and-collabora-picks-it-226133

S.

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[libreoffice-marketing] LO Clipping

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Another article that mentions the LibreOffice white paper:
http://opensource.com/business/13/5/migrating-open-source-business-plan

S.

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in InfoWorld

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I mentioned LibreOffice in my column today:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/oracles-closed-approach-keeps-java-risk-217297

S.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Increasing Donations

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Here's a simple tip from Eclipse on how to increase donations:  Ask for a
donation when the download is occurring, not when a user is browsing the
project site.
http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/how-to-increase-donations-to-an-open-source-project/

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Paper in InfoWorld

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You may be interested in my article in InfoWorld this week:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/libreoffice-every-desk-10-step-plan-215370

S.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

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I am concerned to see it described as open source when the client
software is licensed in a way that is not OSD-compliant and does not
deliver software freedom (the article says it uses CC-BY-NC-SA which is
clearly non-Free).

S.


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:

 Apparently this is being spearheaded by former OOo devs ... no mention of
 who from OOo in the article.

 http://www.itworld.com/**enterprise-software/348971/**
 open-xchange-launch-open-**source-browser-based-office-**suitehttp://www.itworld.com/enterprise-software/348971/open-xchange-launch-open-source-browser-based-office-suite

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[libreoffice-marketing] TDF Certification Clipping

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I mentioned TDF certification in my InfoWorld column this week:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/it-certifications-cant-measure-capability-213660

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[libreoffice-marketing] Added Certification to Wikipedia-EN

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I noticed TDF's certification programme was not listed at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_certification_(computer_technology)so
I have added it. If you're watching TDF-related Wikipedia pages you
may
wish to add this one to your list.

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[libreoffice-marketing] InfoWorld on LibreOffice Development

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I've written an article based on Michael Meek's talk at FOSDEM. You can
read it at
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Google AdWords

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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello,

 this is just a quick reminder that we have been approved as Google Grants
 participants, which means we can use Google AdWords for free within a
 certain range.

 I am no expert here, and just did some first tests, so if anyone wants to
 take the lead on this, that'd be appreciated.

 The only drawback is that the AdWords account is tied to TDF's main Google
 account, where we also maintain the Play store and other things, so I'd
 prefer if some board member could be in the boat as well to coordinate the
 efforts.


I believe you can designate other people to run campaigns  using their own
GMail accounts without giving them full admin access.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] TechCrunch!

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One more for your list:
http://www.infoworld.com/t/open-source-software/new-libreoffice-turns-the-heat-microsoft-212494

S.


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charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 We're waiting for a few more (hopefully):

 http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/07/libreoffice-4-0-released-just-in-time-for-office-365-refugees/

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Google+ Community

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Since I'm already a moderator of the TDF Page that owns the Community I'm
able to administer it without being directly added - thanks!

S.


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 Florian Monfort wrote on 2012-12-07 12:16:

  Following the announcement of the Google+ Communities functionality, I
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 relevant :


 wow, thanks - didn't spot that, but have seen the community has been
 created at G+ with TDF as admin. :-)

 I've now granted also admin rights to Charles and you, and you should be
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [tdf-core] Ad on Facebook?

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On Monday, November 26, 2012, Danishka Navin wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Provided that TDF has the budget, would you guys agree to have a
  sponsored link on Facebook?
 

 I think we should discus this under LibreOffice 4.0 marketing plan.


As long  as you mean as well as consider the proposal to do it now too
then I agree; no need to wait though.

Ideally we need the LibreOffice page on FB more actively maintained and
promoted now, and ads would be part of a strategy for that. Independently
of curating the LibreOffice Facebook page it's less obviously a priority.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] UK Government establishes royalty free open standards

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It was a huge effort involving many people and organisations, including
OFE, FSFE, OSC and indeed OSI. The outcome would not have been this good
without all of them. What was encouraging was that a community
spontaneously formed to work on this without the need for an arch-organiser
- or, indeed, a corporate paymaster.

S.



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  FYI
 
 
 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/UK-Government-establishes-royalty-free-open-standards-1741807.html?from-mobi=1


 Worth mentioning Gerry Gavigan and the Open Source
 Consortiumhttp://www.opensourceconsortium.org/of companies who
 provided a lot of input to this.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] OWF

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I'll be there - very busy Thursday on three tracks, quiet Friday. I think
we could get LibreOffice in the TV studio if we want...
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Poster at Hanoi SFD 2012

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If you do, funding for production of a small run of posters would likely be 
available from Friends of OpenDocument; write to me or Jean to apply once you 
know costs.

S.

On 31 Aug 2012, at 14:43, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Hello ,
 
 You could even ask the Design team to put something together for you on
 design@...
 
 best,
 Charles.
 
 2012/8/31 Nguyễn Vũ Hưng vuhung16p...@gmail.com
 
 Hello all,
 
 I am thinking of marketing LibreOffice at Hanoi SFD 2012[1] on 2012/09/15
 
 As we don't have resources (human, time...) only one thing popped up in my
 mind is
 that print out a poster, size A3 and display it at Hanoi SFD 2012.
 
 This is the simplest way we can do.
 
 How do you think about this?
 
 I will looking for a slot and get someone have a (short) speech introducing
 LibreOffice.
 
 Any suggestions, ideas are appreciated.
 
 [1] http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2012/Vietnam/Hanoi/HLUG
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] SoftMaker Office

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On 20 Aug 2012, at 10:37, Florian Monfort wrote:

 Is it any good compared to LibreOffice ?
 
 Wanted to have your opinion !
 
 http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofl_en.htm

It does not appear to be open source, so it does not offer its users either a 
guarantee of continuity or any of the other benefits that arise from software 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: 3.6 Features page check

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On 1 Aug 2012, at 07:22, Marc Paré wrote:

 I fixed a problem with the URL. The page can now be found at: 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-6-new-features-and-fixes  so that it 
 matches the other release page URL's
 
 All images are now colorbox items rather than links (as per Christian's 
 suggestion on the website list).
 

I especially like the box at the bottom with details of bugs that aren't fixed 
yet. That's a small but stand-out feature that you just don't see in commercial 
marketing and I think it speaks well of TDF - well done.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibOCon Call for Papers

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Would that be an official ODF plugfest?

On 16 Jun 2012, at 14:47, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 The ODF track could be renamed as ODF plugfest. The community track could
 be clarified with localization, documentation, etc.  The migration track
 could include business  certification.
 
 Best,
 Charles.
 Le 16 juin 2012 15:14, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
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 Hello,
 
 I'm still drafting the Call for Papers. The current proposals for the
 tracks are as follows:
 
 Open Document Format (ODF)
 Interoperabilität
 LibreOffice - Entwicklung und Zukunft
 Community-Track
 Best Practice und Migration
 
 Some comments I've already received so far is to make those items fit in
 as well:
 
 Localization
 Documentation, Support, Certification
 Tech, API, Extensions
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] G+ Buttons on Blog

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Is it possible to add Google+ +1 buttons to the TDF blog please? It will make 
posting much easier.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Hybrid PDF Video

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I made a how-to video about making hybrid PDFs. Pass it on, and use it any way 
that's good!

http://youtu.be/EuVZcygoZsI

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[libreoffice-marketing] Added Conference to Lanyrd.com

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I've added the LibreOffice Conference to Lanyrd.com -
http://lanyrd.com/2012/locon12/ - please feel free to hack anything at all
about the entry, I don't mean to step on anyone's toes or to own the
entry!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Collateral Scheme

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On 3 May 2012, at 09:28, Florian Effenberger wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Simon Phipps wrote on 2012-05-02 16:26:
 Sounds worth trying. Who would be our geek-on-the-ground for that event?
 
 I am at LinuxTag and I feel geekish :) - what exactly do you need?

OK, let's give it a test run :-)

First let's get some data:
* What are the dates of Linuxtag?
* When is the last day you can take deliveries?
* What materials would you ideally like, in what quantities?

From there we can:
* Check it's all feasible
* Identify designs and update them for LinuxTag
* Identify a producer
* Upload and order


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Collateral Scheme

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On 2 May 2012, at 09:27, Florian Effenberger wrote:

 Hi Simon,
 
 thanks for your proposal! Since I am - as usual :) - swamped with work, I 
 cannot help much, but:
 
 Simon Phipps wrote on 2012-05-01 01:19:
 
 *  Is there an upcoming event we can set as a goal so we have a target (lat 
 May-early June)?
 
 Maybe LinuxTag, starting May 23rd, but that might be too soon.

Sounds worth trying. Who would be our geek-on-the-ground for that event?

 
 *  Board:  Will you give this scheme your agreement please?
 
 Sounds good for me!
 
 Just one remark: The stores you mentioned IMHO keep a lot of money in their 
 pockets, so it might be cheaper to seek for alternatives, when we buy for 
 ourselves. But I have no real experience here...

They are not the cheapest approach to bulk production, but their convenience 
for very short runs of the kind I'm anticipating here probably outweighs that 
disadvantage. Once the more formal approach Marc has explained gets established 
I'm sure we'll optimise for volume.

S.


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [board-discuss] Collateral Scheme

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On 1 May 2012, at 09:35, Michael Meeks wrote:
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 00:19 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote:
 
 == Call for Action ==
 
 *  Who would be willing to collaborate with me on this?
 *  Is there an upcoming event we can set as a goal so we have a target (lat 
 May-early June)?
 *  Board:  Will you give this scheme your agreement please?
 
   You have my moral support :-) though I can't invest time in this as of
 now.

Would not expect you to! Although of course when you see local events around 
your area that need copies of manuals or bundles of leaflets, joining in would 
be great!

 Wrt. the collaboration - what concretely do you need done ?

Three main areas:

*  Preparing materials
We already have the great manuals plus some leaflet  banner designs, but each 
design needs some love to make it work at a specific event. I've tried, and I 
really am not skilled enough to work on them. I'd love to have one or more 
collaborators who can maintain store-ready artwork that we can upload and order.

I'd also love someone to design us a table cloth that could be used at 
table-top events. It would need out name and graphics along the edges in 
particular, so they show when the cloth is draped over a table.  No idea how to 
get it manufactured, but I know where to ask if there's someone with the 
graphic skills.

*  Linking with an event
When there's a local event that would benefit from leaflets, manuals, t-shirts 
etc

*  Sharing administration
I'm notoriously distractable, so having a collaborator here would be great too.


Thanks,

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [board-discuss] Collateral Scheme

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On 1 May 2012, at 20:28, Marc Paré wrote:
 
 FYI, the marketing team had started work on this -- conference kits.[1] I 
 have not updated these pages in a while due to health problems but am getting 
 slowly getting back to work on these. Although out of date (Italo has left a 
 note on this page), the outline is still valid but the materials links need 
 to be updated.

That's great work you're describing, thanks Marc. 

I look on this as a stop-gap while all those more formal official 
arrangements are sorted out - I'm very happy for all the work done on it to 
merge into this official stuff once it's back to full operational power! But 
I'd not want us to miss out on being able to help local events like the one 
Danishka told us about but we weren't able to help with, hence my offer here to 
organise something ad-hoc using what we have now and Jean's willingness to find 
funding.  If you have designs ready to adapt then it should be relatively easy 
for a suitably skilled collaborator to work on them.

So, still looking for collaborators to get this up and running quickly!

Best wishes,

S.


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[libreoffice-marketing] Collateral Scheme

[Simon Phipps]

Summary:   I propose a scheme for LibreOffice supporters to get materials to 
use at events. I ask for collaborators and I request an OK for the Board.


== Explanation ==

You may recall that Jean Hollis Weber made a great offer to LibreOffice from 
the Friends of OpenDocument group a few weeks ago (March 11th). She said they 
hold a comfortable sum of money on behalf of LibreOffice and went on to say:

 Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation
 for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to
 cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't
 deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing
 materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events,
 attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers
 (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be
 valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community
 and the customer base.

I contacted Jean offline and asked more about this. We talked through the 
proposal I'm going to make now, and in order to make it feasible I applied to 
and have been granted membership of Friends of OpenDocument Inc.


=== Proposal ===

It would be great if LibreOffice advocates around the world were able to get 
hold of posters, leaflets, maybe even t-shirts and table displays, in support 
of LibreOffice at user groups, conferences and the like. One way to do this 
would be to create items on an online store such as Lulu, CafePress or 
SpreadShirt (or equivalents accessible to other geographies) run on behalf of 
both TDF and Friends of OpenDocument. We at the Friends could then purchase 
items at cost and have them shipped to the event organiser.

I am willing to set up and administer such a store and work with the Friends to 
authorise and make purchases, but I have no graphic skills whatsoever so would 
need others to help create items, upload and maintain them.

It's not my proposal at this stage to create a TDF Store for public purchases, 
but it's obviously a possible future development.


== Call for Action ==

*  Who would be willing to collaborate with me on this?
*  Is there an upcoming event we can set as a goal so we have a target (lat 
May-early June)?
*  Board:  Will you give this scheme your agreement please?


Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Editable PDFs

[Simon Phipps]

I think editable PDFs are one of the miracles of LibreOffice, and I found so 
few people know about them that I decided to write about them today on 
ComputerWorld:
http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2012/03/the-magic-of-editable-pdfs/index.htm

Feel free to pass on the link, or if you don't want to do that, the 
instructions in the (editable!) PDF at http://wmk.me/Hb9y3y 

Improvements welcome - that file is on GitHub so send me a pull request :-)

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Member Badge

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On 19 Mar 2012, at 09:20, Florian Effenberger wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Simon Phipps wrote on 2012-03-17 21:02:
 I think it would be good for TDF Members to have a badge they can display on 
 their home pages. I have created this:
 
 http://webmink.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/tdf-member.png
 
 and am displaying it on my home page.  What do people think?
 
 I think the general idea is good, but the image could use some improvement. 
 ;-) I'm no graphics designer myself, but maybe that's something to ask on the 
 design mailing list?

Sorry you don't like it; I find it compact and effective. I have negligible 
design skills, so was not even aware there was such a list :-) I offer the hack 
I did in the spirit of contribution and I'd welcome something better.

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

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On 14 Mar 2012, at 21:25, drew jensen wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 21:23 +, Simon Phipps wrote:
 On 14 Mar 2012, at 19:32, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 
 The poster can be found here
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Posters 
 
 I get a File Not Found error for the poster - looks like the URL is wrong.
 
 S.
 
 
 Try this instead
 
 http://www.frodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf
 

Die Seite existiert leider nicht…

and then a link to
http://www.frodev.org/downloads/LibreOffice/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf/view

which just displays a directory listing.

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

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On 14 Mar 2012, at 21:25, drew jensen wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 21:23 +, Simon Phipps wrote:
 On 14 Mar 2012, at 19:32, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 
 The poster can be found here
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Posters 
 
 I get a File Not Found error for the poster - looks like the URL is wrong.
 
 S.
 
 
 Try this instead
 
 http://www.frodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf
 

I went away  left the machine, and when I came back another area had been 
rewritten on the page with a download link, so I now have the PDF - thanks. It 
doesn't appear to be a hybrid PDF though, so I've no source; do we know where 
it is?

Thanks

S.
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[libreoffice-marketing] InfoWorld LibreOffice Article

[Simon Phipps]

An article I wrote for InfoWorld US just went live:
http://www.infoworld.com/t/open-source-software/the-bright-future-of-libreoffice-187765

Regards

S.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

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This video is good, and I suspect Nixie Pixel would help the TV company with 
broadcast quality materials if you asked her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=sloEMUt7n5Q

S.

On 1 Mar 2012, at 03:54, Nguyễn Vũ Hưng wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Anyone knows where I can find a high quality (better than youtube) to
 PR LibreOffice?
 
 The reason I am looking for this is that, a man working at (Vietnam)
 national TV agency said to me that he can put LibreOffice on air. The
 length should be 2 or 5 munites.
 
 FYI,
 This is the IT Space program in which we have talked about,
 including LibreOffice.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93KaymzgOYfeature=related
 
 -- 
 Best Regards,
 Nguyen Hung Vu [aka: NVH] ( in Vietnamese: Nguyễn Vũ Hưng )
 vuhung16plus{remove}@gmail.dot.com , YIM: vuhung16 , Skype:
 vuhung16plus, twitter: vuhung, MSN: vuhung16.
 http://www.facebook.com/nguyenvuhung
 http://nguyen-vu-hung.blogspot.com/
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] first article about TDF getting its Inc status

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I think mine may have been first, but maybe that's cheating :-)

http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2012/02/libreoffice-founbdation-symbolises-maturity/index.htm

S.

On 21 Feb 2012, at 14:42, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

 
 Saw this today in one of my e-newsletters.
 
 http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=1121607193-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bfbrand=ZDNETs=5
  
 http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=1121607193-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bfbrand=ZDNETs=5
 
 Document Foundation gets corporate Inc status 
 http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=1121607193-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bfbrand=ZDNETs=5
 
 *Paula Rooney: * The Document Foundation's official incorporation in Germany 
 strengthens the rights of the community and individual contributors, backers 
 say. In other words, the Inc status will prevent any one or several companies 
 from hijacking the project.
 
 Tue Feb 21 03:38:56 PST 2012
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Turkish classrooms to use LibreOffice

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On 24 Jan 2012, at 10:13, Florian Effenberger wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I was made aware of the following blogpost:
 
   http://www.pardusworld.com/project-fatih-and-pardus/
 
 The most interesting part is: This means, LibreOffice will be shipped in 
 Microsoft Windows and Pardus(which already ships it as the default Office and 
 productivity suite) In 5 years, LibreOffice will be used in 620.000 
 classrooms -which means nearly every classroom in the first and secondary 
 education.
 
 I guess this is something we could use for marketing if done wisely!

You missed the last sentence of that paragraph: Unless Microsoft makes an 
intervention and gifts Microsoft Office.

Too much publicity too early might not be helpful. Do we have anyone from 
Pardus in the community to advise us?

S.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Christmas tree

[Simon Phipps]

I used it on my personal blog:
http://webmink.com/2011/12/24/open-source-xmas/

I also wrote a quick article for ComputerWorld, suggesting people give 
LibreOffice as a Christmas gift and use your image for the gift card:
http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2011/12/last-minute-gift-ideas/index.htm

If people wanted to promote that CWUK article, the short link is 
http://wmk.me/s6ELWH

Thanks again, Eliane, and Happy Christmas, everyone!

S.

On 23 Dec 2011, at 14:21, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Just a little gift :)
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/elianedomingos/6559228203/
 
 Merry Christmas and marvelous 2012.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Eliane Domingos
 Brazilian LibreOffice Community
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New Web Banner Proposals by Aleksandar (See)

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On 25 Sep 2011, at 21:49, Christoph Noack wrote:

 
 
 Please check whether the banners are okay - marketing-wise. For
 feedback, please use either the marketing list (reply to this mail) or
 the design list. Since these banner closely follow our branding language
 (see later), I suggest to replace the older proposals with these new
 ones. So, please tell us whether everything fits (size, format,
 claim, ...) ... or not ;-) Comments appreciated...

These are good work - thanks, See.

Personally, I would change the order of the words. I would write:

Power-packed personal productivity suite
Free, libre and open source for
Windows, Macintosh and GNU/Linux

That makes the core descriptive text together and makes it strongly 
alliterative, puts the differentiating values on their own line and means that 
each line has a distinctive purpose.

Cheers,

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New Web Banner Proposals by Aleksandar (See)

[Simon Phipps]

Awesome - I love it, naturally :-)

Thanks,

S.

On 26 Sep 2011, at 14:58, Aleksandar wrote:

 Hi all,
 Florian and Simon, thanks I am glad you like it.
 I added two new files with different text like Simon asked:
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:See_banner_ss3b.png
 and
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/f/f0/See_banner_ss2b.png
 
 Feel free to take a look at my wiki page:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See
 Once again, thanks for your feedback
 Aleksandar
 
 2011/9/26 Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com
 
 
 On 25 Sep 2011, at 21:49, Christoph Noack wrote:
 
 
 
 Please check whether the banners are okay - marketing-wise. For
 feedback, please use either the marketing list (reply to this mail) or
 the design list. Since these banner closely follow our branding language
 (see later), I suggest to replace the older proposals with these new
 ones. So, please tell us whether everything fits (size, format,
 claim, ...) ... or not ;-) Comments appreciated...
 
 These are good work - thanks, See.
 
 Personally, I would change the order of the words. I would write:
 
 Power-packed personal productivity suite
 Free, libre and open source for
 Windows, Macintosh and GNU/Linux
 
 That makes the core descriptive text together and makes it strongly
 alliterative, puts the differentiating values on their own line and means
 that each line has a distinctive purpose.
 
 Cheers,
 
 S.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

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On 22 Aug 2011, at 11:14, Florian Effenberger wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-21 22:39:
 I propose we make a call for location for the 2012/and/  2013 conferences 
 now, with a selection deadline of January 2012 for the 2012 event and a 
 selection deadline of August 2012 for the 2013 event (assuming we keep the 
 date of thee vent in October each year). We can then in future select the 
 next location one year in advance and ensure the current team are able to 
 involve the next team in preparations as a learning exercise.
 
 so, you would like to issue the Call for Locations now, i.e. before the Paris 
 conference takes place?

Yes, but with a goal of making a decision at the end of the year, not in time 
for Paris.

 
 What do others think? From how I understood previous messages, people prefer 
 to wait until after the Paris conference.

I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in Paris. 
I think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:

September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
November  15th:  Applications close
December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
January 15th: Location announced

And for 2013:

September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
May 31st: Applications close
June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
August 30th: 2013 venue announced
October: @013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] website terminology for free software

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On 4 Aug 2011, at 20:57, Florian Effenberger wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've received a request to change two things on our website, regarding 
 terminology:
 
 - Instead of solely using open source, I was asked that we should also use 
 free software.

TL;DR summary:  FOSS is a reasonable term to use sparingly in English  (FOSS - 
Free, Open Source Software).  

Explanation: FLOSS is not a good term to use as it appears humourous to most 
people not educated to regard it otherwise. Over-use of Free distracts most 
native English speakers who rarely associate it with Liberty unless educated 
to do so and I don't think that's TDF's role. FOSS - Free, Open Source Software 
- works in many contexts as it does not have other common meanings and provokes 
curiosity, but should not be over-used as jargon and acronyms make text look 
complex. Open Source is a term widely recognised among computer users and is 
thus a good colloquial term in contexts where the message is about LibreOffice 
rather than about software freedom as a philosophy or ethical system.

So my recommendation would be to occasionally use the construct Free, Open 
Source software (say once per page) and otherwise stick with open source.

 
 - Linux should be referred to as GNU/Linux.

For most people it really doesn't matter, and it makes some people happy, so 
why not.  

 
 I am, as we have a saying in Germany, rather emotionless on this, but I do 
 see that many people have concerns with solely using open source or leaving 
 out the GNU prefix.
 
 Shall we aim for achieving a good mixture of both terminologies? Anyone has 
 severe concerns on that?
 
 Florian


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] BrOffice Magazine, issue 21 released

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It would be very good indeed if from the next issue onwards distribution was 
handled by the mirror network - the magazine is  sure to be popular.  How do we 
arrange this?

S.


On 28 Jun 2011, at 19:41, Helio S. Ferreira wrote:

 ==
 Indeed, right now the speed is very low.
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Paulo de Souza Lima 
 paulo.s.l...@varekai.org wrote:
 
 2011/6/28 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 
 Hi :)
 
 
 Hi Tom.
 
 
 Wow!!  The download speed is very low!  A LOT of people must be
 downloading
 it
 from just 1 or 2 sites?  Is it possible to get the website team to mirror
 it
 around the world?  Is there a bit-torrent for it?
 
 
 Hummm. I really don't know what's going on. I have some claims from
 brazilian users also. But, feel free to mirror it if you want.
 Regarding to torrent, I don't know how to make it available to a torrent
 network, but it seems to be great. Can you help me on this?
 
 
 
 I'm not actually on the website list but i have tried to forward this to
 them
 just in case they get it and can help.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] AppStore

[Simon Phipps]

On 27 Jun 2011, at 12:50, Benjamin Horst wrote:

 
 On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote (25-06-11 14:52)
 There was quite a lengthy discussion on the discuss list months ago
 about the same topic. Many things were written. I think that what would
 be really helpful would be if someone were to review the various app
 stores rules and terms, and identify the ones we can readily work with
 and the other ones where we would have a major legal problem. Would you
 like to drive this?
 [...]
 
 I support that proposal, Charles !
 
 When we discussed this last year, I researched a bit and found the following 
 article from the FSF:
 http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance
 
 The article's summary:
 
 An iPhone port of GNU Go is currently being distributed through Apple's App 
 Store. However, this distribution is not in compliance with the GNU GPL. The 
 primary problem is that Apple imposes numerous legal restrictions on use and 
 distribution of GNU Go through the iTunes Store Terms of Service, which is 
 forbidden by section 6 of GPLv2. So today we have written to Apple and asked 
 them to come into compliance. We would be happy to see Apple distribute these 
 programs under the GPL's terms, but unfortunately, it seems much more likely 
 that they'll simply make the problem go away by removing GNU Go from the App 
 Store.
 
 I think the above refers to the iOS App Store, but I do not know if the 
 relevant terms are any different for the Mac App Store. (I think it predates 
 the existence of the Mac App Store.) 
 
 The other difference is that the article refers to the GPL and not 
 specifically the LGPL license.
 
 I will follow up further and let you know what I discover.

Personally I think that conclusion is debatable. While Apple was the channel, 
the actual distribution was done by whoever put the software into the channel 
and it's not obvious to me that the situation is any different to, say, buying 
a PC with Linux on it from a members only retailer like CostCo. As long as 
the offer of source was made, I suspect an equally valid case could be 
constructed that there's no coming into compliance to be done. 

Not that I am a lawyer, of course :-)  Just saying that I suspect the action in 
that link was motivated more by politics than by legal certainty...

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] 1st LibreOffice Community Meeting in the FISL12

[Simon Phipps]

On 19 Jun 2011, at 19:50, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote:

 Good afternoon! 
 
 I would like to share the program of 1st LibreOffice Community Meeting
 in the FISL12.
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/pt-br/fisl12
 
 Kind regards.
 
 Eliane Domingos


I look forward to attending... :-)

S.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Thanks for the interview today

[Simon Phipps]

On 10 Jun 2011, at 12:22, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 Italo Vignoli wrote:
 http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2077963/libreoffice-ready-commercial-distribution-months-document-foundation
 http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2077979/document-foundation-promises-enterprise-ready-libreoffice-august
 
 It's great to see that the LibreOffice download size will be 30
 MBytes... if only that was true! It must be an invariant that, however
 accurate the information provided to them, journalists always manage to
 get something wrong.

It's not just journalists. All human communications have that effect, hence the 
game Chinese Whispers[1]. That's why when I give a conference keynote I try 
to also publish my thoughts before or at the same time, so there can be no 
doubt what I think. It's also why reports of what others said or think should 
be treated as suspect (a concept described in English as Hearsay[2]) until 
there's a supporting source provided.

The lesson I have learned is that I should treat each error in an article where 
I am the source as my own failure to present the information in a way that was 
effective for the journalist.  On the other hand, as a journalist I always 
appreciate rapid, polite, factual and constructive corrections to my articles 
and apply them as soon as I can.

S.




[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Media Contacts for TDF

[Simon Phipps]

UTC is the more global term IMO. I have often found that when people see GMT 
they assume it means the time in England and thus get all messed up at the 
daylight-savings boundaries.

S.

On 8 Jun 2011, at 12:00, Tom Davies wrote:

 +1 on all counts.
 
 Perhaps GMT might be better than UTC?  (Is UTC an American thing or a Unix 
 thing? Answers to that off-list if at all please)
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com
 To: TDF Marketing marketing@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wed, 8 June, 2011 10:34:41
 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Media Contacts for TDF
 
 I've realized that our contact section in the website and press releases 
 might 
 be misleading, as we declare the country where we are based but this might be 
 interpreted that we are the contacts for that specific geography. I suggest 
 to 
 change with based in ... or with a time zone (UTC+ or UTC-). Maybe the 
 second 
 option is the best one.
 
 UTC, by the way, doesn't seem to be widely understood (but this might just be 
 a 
 wrong perception).
 
 This is the text:
 
 *** Media Contacts for TDF
 
 Florian Effenberger (Germany)
 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 - E-mail: flo...@documentfoundation.org
 Olivier Hallot (Brazil)
 Mobile: +55 21 88228812 - E-mail: olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org
 Charles H. Schulz (France)
 Mobile: +33 6 98655424 - E-mail: charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
 Italo Vignoli (Italy)
 Mobile: +39 348 5653829 - E-mail: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org
 
 Of course, this is for global press releases, while is appropriate for local 
 press releases to have a different media contacts section.
 
 Opinions? Suggestions? Solutions?
 
 -- Italo Vignoli
 italo.vign...@gmail.com
 mobile +39.348.5653829
 VoIP +39.02.320621813
 skype italovignoli
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Media Contacts for TDF

[Simon Phipps]

On 8 Jun 2011, at 14:27, Tom Davies wrote:

 
 Hi :)
 I don't know how this is all going to work and there are likely to be changes 
 after the elections anyway.  Perhaps the named person could be a Team Leader 
 delegating some of the work to other agreed people.  In co-operatives that i 
 have worked in the SC would need to be voted-in first.  Then the SC would 
 delegate areas of responsibility to various groups such as Marketing and 
 decide how people would be elected or appointed within those groups.  Ideally 
 (imo) the groups would be allowed to choose a suitable way for themselves 
 (within reason).  Initially groups would communicate with SC about what area 
 they need to be in control of and which they only need to communicate with.  
 For 
 example they might decide that the Design sub-group is better under a 
 different 
 group's control but is a sub-group they might want to have a few members in 
 so 
 that communications are smoother.  There are a lot of issues here that might 
 change until TDF settle on something that works more smoothly.  


If I had to invent something, it would be along the lines of a Communications 
Working Group that was open to membership from anyone who would agree to its 
rules (confidentiality until release, have media training, communicate only the 
group consensus as TDF's position, for example). I would then use the mail 
alias of that Working Group as the press contact on any releases, and have the 
most qualified member pick up each inbound request. 

S.


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Conference CfP

[Simon Phipps]

On 03/05/2011 07:58, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to move on with the Call for Papers.
We need to have a Papers Reviewing Committee and a deadline where both
the papers submission form and the review team are in place. Can we
form the team by the end of this week and have the page ready around
the same time?


Given I have de-cloaked and become a Document Foundation member, I'd be 
pleased to help with this if that's useful.


S.



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