Thanks, I understand what you mean.
I cannot access the following url due to my network (though it's not very
important)
ext Skarpness, Mark mark.skarpn...@intel.com writes:
So which of the previous arguments against Surrounds are still valid?
The burden placed on the device vendor to ensure that all possible
external dependencies are available to every device.
This burden should be placed on the store.
The
http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#python_related_issues
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ext Skarpness, Mark mark.skarpn...@intel.com writes:
On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
What about _internal_ dependencies? Should we allow applications to
have dependencies to other packages in the same store?
From a compliance point of view, the application needs to be
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 20:11 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
That's not integrated with git at all; it's a separate service that
requires a authentication, you have to interrupt what you are doing in
order to login and review patches, plus it's not like you are
constantly checking gitorious,
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:52 AM, quim@nokia.com wrote:
Why do we go back a few steps and figure out what goals we want to
achieve with this and then we can find the best way to go about it.
Simply put, we want to make it possible for an application developer to
write a MeeGo compliant
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote:
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 20:11 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
That's not integrated with git at all; it's a separate service that
requires a authentication, you have to interrupt what you are doing in
order to login and
ext Anas Nashif nas...@linux.intel.com writes:
Packages having the same name and residing in different repos should not be a
problem, since the package manager can deal with same package name from two
different vendors.
Excellent! I was hoping that rpm/zypper/packagekit might have this
On 09/18/2010 02:43 AM, ext Nathan Anderson wrote:
I've watched this thread with interest the last week or so. Time to chip
in. :D
Here are some Real world numbers using real applications; pulled from Maemo
Repositories
ICU 4.2 8 Megs
cLucene is 3 Meg (Depends on ICU)
Sword 2 Megs.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:21, Riku Voipio riku.voi...@nokia.com wrote:
Another thing people here seem to ignore: For developers *not* coming from
linux distribution/packaging background, importing a shared library to their
application project is infinitely simpler task than packaging the same
Em Segunda-feira 20 Setembro 2010, às 11:21:44, Riku Voipio escreveu:
When we look at the usual case, for most libraries, embedding the to the
applications is not going to be a problem. There is probably
only going to be 1-3 users of that library anyways. For the few widely
used libraries,
Greetings all.
I have installed a TDriver to my computer. Everything is up and running. I am
now trying to connect my N900 to the TDriver so that I am able to see the UI
image view.
Does my phone have to be maemo phone or meego phone? I was also trying to
install the qttas-server to the phone
On Monday 20 September 2010 00:46:32 Skarpness, Mark wrote:
On Sep 19, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Graham Cobb wrote:
Take the compliant word off the table, reduce the heat in this thread,
and let marketing do their job of brand creation, don't try to guess what
they will decide.
Of course we are
You look from the IT infrastructure costs PoV :-) Of course, it is
simpler to maintain just one tool.
Hehe... I'm an IT guy what do you expect from me? :)
I think what is at stake here however is the process for doing reviews before
the tools.
--
Stefano
Sent from N900
On 09/20/10 13:21, Riku Voipio wrote:
When we look at the usual case, for most libraries, embedding the to
the applications is not going to be a problem. There is probably
only going to be 1-3 users of that library anyways. For the few widely
used libraries, we can have them in MeeGo core. In
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:11 AM, gw zhang zhg...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, I understand what you mean.
I cannot access the following url due to my network (though it's not very
important)
On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 17:37, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote:
Now there is a meego-architecture list devoted to discuss topics like future
technology selections.
http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-architecture
Please continue
On Monday 20 September 2010 16:45:32 you wrote:
There was discussion on meego-community about them *going* to be set
up, but I seem to have missed the announcement about what new mailing
lists *have* been established (both on the web and cross-posted to all
the current lists, I'd've said).
Hi:
Sorry for this stupid question. On other discussion threads, I am seeing
the term MeeGo Staging.
I searched on Meego.com but do not see any reference of that. Is MeeGo
Staging = OBS?
If not, what is MeeGo Staging? Is it another repository like MeeGo
Surrounds?
Thanks
Mark
Hi!
I've been checking the repositories for python support.
AFAICT the compliance doc at
http://www.pyside.org/2010/09/meegotouch-bindings-alpha-available/
requires an application to only use packages in the officail repos to
be meego compliant
IMHO it makes sense to also include python bindings
Hi!
If not, what is MeeGo Staging? Is it another repository like MeeGo
Surrounds?
I think it's the one at http://download.meego.com/testing/ , but not sure...
Thanks
Mark
/Per
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2010/9/20 Mark S. Townsley mstowns...@gmail.com:
Hi:
Sorry for this stupid question. On other discussion threads, I am seeing
the term MeeGo Staging.
I searched on Meego.com but do not see any reference of that. Is MeeGo
Staging = OBS?
If not, what is MeeGo Staging? Is it another
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Skarpness, Mark
mark.skarpn...@intel.com wrote:
As I said earlier in the thread - compliance isn't a statement of worth - it
simply
means that the app follows the rules of compliance so that it will run on any
compliant device.
I think there is a big
Riku,
Here are some Real world numbers using real applications; pulled from
Maemo
Repositories
ICU 4.2 8 Megs
cLucene is 3 Meg (Depends on ICU)
Sword 2 Megs. (Depends on cLucene)
WebKit 3 Megs. (Depends on ICU 4.2)
Lets say I just put TWO bible apps (Both use Sword) on the device;
On 20.09.2010 17:41, ext Per Åstrand wrote:
Hi!
I've been checking the repositories for python support.
AFAICT the compliance doc at
http://www.pyside.org/2010/09/meegotouch-bindings-alpha-available/
requires an application to only use packages in the officail repos to
be meego compliant
IMHO it
On 09/18/10 13:46, Felipe Contreras wrote:
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Arjan van de Venar...@linux.intel.com wrote:
In MeeGo we start the things we need always early, because starting them on
demand is the worst thing you can do
for startup performance (you introduce unneeded waits). But
On 9/20/2010 12:18 PM, Attila Csipa wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Matti Airas matti.p.ai...@nokia.com
mailto:matti.p.ai...@nokia.com wrote:
In my opinion, Core OS, absolutely. There's already a world of
pain in Maemo 5, with Python being just in Extras and thus
Reviewing the code sent via emails is quite a tedious task and sometimes
error prone. Review board (http://www.reviewboard.org/) presents a very nice
interface for code review and responses. Could we have review board installed
at MeeGo? Something like reviewboard.meego.com ?
I support
Firstly sorry if this is the wrong list to send this question to, please
advise on the best one if it isn't here.
I have been spending my time trying to get the MeeGo UX into reasonable
shape on my preferred distro of choice - openSUSE. Now before I make
any form of release/spin/$WHATEVER I
On 9/20/2010 12:42 PM, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
So my simple question is, if I use the MeeGo UX can I say $RELEASE is
based on MeeGo's User eXperience, sitting ontop of $DISTRO.
Complimenting the other Desktop Environments that are on offer, and
offering some additional components (listing
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Attila Csipa me...@csipa.in.rs wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Matti Airas matti.p.ai...@nokia.com
wrote:
In my opinion, Core OS, absolutely. There's already a world of pain in
Maemo 5, with Python being just in Extras and thus effectively prohibited
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Arjan van de Ven ar...@linux.intel.comwrote:
PyGTK is not part of the core and not part of the compliance set for
example...
Since I got quoted - the point is if Qt is you official toolkit and you are
already having Python in Core (as compliancy does specify
On 09/20/10 12:42, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
Firstly sorry if this is the wrong list to send this question to, please
advise on the best one if it isn't here.
I have been spending my time trying to get the MeeGo UX into reasonable
shape on my preferred distro of choice - openSUSE. Now before I make
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:16:40PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote:
On 09/20/10 12:42, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
Firstly sorry if this is the wrong list to send this question to, please
advise on the best one if it isn't here.
I have been spending my time trying to get the MeeGo UX into reasonable
shape on
From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] on behalf of
ext Arjan van de Ven [ar...@linux.intel.com]
PyGTK is not part of the core and not part of the compliance set for
example...
Pardon my ignorance, but how can you actually check which packages are in MeeGo
core and
On 09/20/10 13:25, Greg KH wrote:
I hate to say it, but for all cases where legal issues are involved,
please consult your lawyer.
Hey, that's totally not fair here.
This is being done by a community project, for which there are no
lawyers.
Perhaps, but said community person asks about
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:38:46PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote:
On 09/20/10 13:25, Greg KH wrote:
I hate to say it, but for all cases where legal issues are involved,
please consult your lawyer.
Hey, that's totally not fair here.
This is being done by a community project, for which there are
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:53:43PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
Otherwise, I think the name Smeego, based on the spittle that came from
the MeeGo(tm) release looks like a nice phrase to use.
s/Smeego/Smeegol/
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Please visit:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-foundation-trademark-usage-guidelines(which
also includes correct and incorrect ways of using the mark)
The link above is also reachable from: http://meego.com/about/trademark
Thanks,
Ibrahim
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Matti Airas matti.p.ai...@nokia.com wrote:
On 20.09.2010 17:41, ext Per Åstrand wrote:
Hi!
I've been checking the repositories for python support.
AFAICT the compliance doc at
http://www.pyside.org/2010/09/meegotouch-bindings-alpha-available/
requires an
Sorry, tomorrow is just the community office meeting. But I think we
should prepare a project proposal on the wiki and ask to add it to
next TSG meeting for approval.
-Sivan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Matti Airas
On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Sivan Greenberg wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Matti Airas matti.p.ai...@nokia.com wrote:
On 20.09.2010 17:41, ext Per Åstrand wrote:
Hi!
I've been checking the repositories for python support.
AFAICT the compliance doc at
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
Please visit:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-foundation-trademark-usage-guidelines(which
also includes correct and incorrect ways of using the mark)
The link above is also reachable from:
*
*
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
Please visit:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
Please visit:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-foundation-trademark-usage-guidelines(which
also includes correct and incorrect ways of using the mark)
The
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 02:45:52PM -0700, Christian Daudt wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
Please visit:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:44:32PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
*
*
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
Please visit:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Christian Daudt cs...@daudt.org wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
Please visit:
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 15:00 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
The compliance program is driven by setting the compliance specs (discussed
on meego-dev):,*http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance
But that referrs to MeeGo 1.1, what about shipping something that
matches 1.0? Like what Andrew has up
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ext Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote:
Sorry, tomorrow is just the community office meeting. But I think we
should prepare a project proposal on the wiki and ask to add it to
next TSG meeting for approval.
-Sivan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Sivan
comments inline highlighted in blue.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Wafaa awa...@opensuse.org wrote:
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 15:00 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
The compliance program is driven by setting the compliance specs
(discussed
on
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 03:50:20PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
comments inline highlighted in blue.
blue doesn't work in text-only email clients, sorry :)
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Wafaa awa...@opensuse.org wrote:
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 15:00 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
The
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:23:27PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
What name? Smeegol? The LF can't say anything about that, sorry,
but it can have an influence on how the wording of the statement.
It is the wording more than anything else.
Then say that :)
The link provides details on
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:23:27PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
What name? Smeegol? The LF can't say anything about that, sorry,
but it can have an influence on how the wording of the statement.
It is the wording more than
On 9/20/2010 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On M
Great, as there is no final compliance program, all things are free to
use, right?
Depending on what is being used, some require proper attribution.
How can an artwork package require attribution? Why wouldn't it
already be contained in the metadata
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Arjan van de Ven ar...@linux.intel.com wrote:
On 9/20/2010 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On M
Great, as there is no final compliance program, all things are free to
use, right?
Depending on what is being used, some require proper attribution.
How can an
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On 9/20/2010 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On M
Great, as there is no final compliance program, all things are free to
use, right?
Depending on what is being used, some require proper attribution.
How can an artwork package require
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:55:57PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
My next question is that of artwork. Looking at the link provided I
don't see anything about artwork usage. From what I can tell, there
is
the icon-theme package which refers to the Compliance section for
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 02:45:52PM -0700, Christian Daudt wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
Please visit:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:56:00PM -0700, Christian Daudt wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 02:45:52PM -0700, Christian Daudt wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM
On 9/20/2010 5:10 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On 9/20/2010 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On M
Great, as there is no final compliance program, all things are free to
use, right?
Depending on what is being used, some require proper
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:20:48PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On 9/20/2010 5:10 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On 9/20/2010 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On M
Great, as there is no final compliance program, all things are free to
use,
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:52:35AM +0200, quim@nokia.com wrote:
Simply put, we want to make it possible for an application developer to
write a MeeGo compliant application once and run it on any MeeGo compliant
device.
http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance
As others have pointed out
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Nathan Anderson
nat...@andersonsplace.netmailto:nat...@andersonsplace.net wrote:
Here are some Real world numbers using real applications; pulled from
Maemo
Repositories
ICU 4.2 8 Megs
cLucene is 3 Meg (Depends on ICU)
Sword 2 Megs. (Depends on
On 09/20/2010 08:24 PM, ext Auke Kok wrote:
this is a bit of a pipe dream, and realistically, startup really isn't
that complex when it comes to system daemons. Udev, dbus, that's it.
After that uxlaunch handles X startup. (A few low priority services are
started delayed in a background thread).
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