Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-27 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-27 Thread Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
Thought I'd chime in... In my humble opinion, this is a non-issue. In the world of collectibles such as meteorites determining the authenticity of a specimen occurs in one of three ways: 1) You know enough about a specimen yourself to decide on your own that it is what someone says it is. 2)

Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-27 Thread Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list
That makes sense. Maybe it is an American thing. I am used to the word certificate being used much more loosely. There are certificates of ownership, certificates of completion,, certificates of awards, and certificates of many other things. It is just a word used to mean that the document

Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-27 Thread Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list
I guess I am just not understanding how the word "certificate' is misrepresenting anything. I am not sure where the text you copied came from or how it relates, but the word certificate is appropriate when a specific entity is formally stating something. In this case, the seller is "certifying"

Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-27 Thread Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list
Alfredo, You can call a certificate of authenticity a "marketing tool" but at the same time I feel it is as good of a description as any of what it is, and it does have a function. When you say that "in many cases they are printed by the seller" that, to me, is the main point of them. They are

Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-27 Thread Maurizio Eltri via Meteorite-list
Hi Mark, I am thinking that perhaps there are interpretative rules that may vary from country to country. At least here in Italy and a little more generally in Europe, a certificate is an important document and as such its value can only be given if it is drawn up by a person or body

Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-26 Thread Maurizio Eltri via Meteorite-list
Dear friends, I believe that even a "marketing tool" cannot misrepresent the meaning of the words, this can lead to suspect the lack of seriousness of the seller. .. Significato della parola “CERTIFICATO” : In sintetici si può

Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-25 Thread Alfredo Petrov via Meteorite-list
Meteorite "Certificates of Authenticity" are mainly just a marketing tool to appeal to the general public, as in many cases they are printed by the seller, so they are no different from any other seller-issued "product guarantee", and are in fact unnecessary because, in most countries, commercial

Re: [meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-25 Thread Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list
There is no body that is legally recognized. Also, with all the diversity in meteorites and the way the whole hobby/business is set up it would be impossible for there to be a body like that and for the hobby to continue in its current state. Diamonds are an example of something that the industry

[meteorite-list] CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY

2022-07-24 Thread Maurizio Eltri via Meteorite-list
Some sell meteorites with a CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY document, maybe I'm wrong, but a "CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY" document shouldn't be issued only by a specific body that is legally recognized? Such as GIA, IGI, HRD for diamonds? A simple WARRANTY DOCUMENT is no longer appropriate