[meteorite-list] Opinions On An Unclassified Saharan

2003-01-09 Thread Jeff Kuyken
G'day List, I have just received a nice little unclassified saharanmeteorite from the Hupes which is very different to any other pieces I have. It has peaked my interest and since there is so much knowledge in this list, I thought I'd ask for opinions as to what the classification may be.

[meteorite-list] Opinions On An Unclassified Saharan

2003-01-09 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Dear Jeff, The slices of the unknown, as pictured, very much resemble DAG 430, which is so far classified as C3 UNGR. At least it has the quasi same charcoal-like chondrules. I don't remember of the sandy texture. Is the texture of your slice similar to that of Agoult ? Best wishes, Zelimir,

Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!

2003-01-09 Thread mafer
Hello Jim and list I felt you guys did a stand up job, with all the difficulties and egos. Its a shame that this has to happen. I'm too new to this list to know much, but I sure am going to miss the stories of the field trips and all the articles and techniques. So, guess I'll go back to my corner

[meteorite-list] Ebay Auctions ended at few

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Re: [meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Paul and list, Paul wrote: We had a dream of giving back to the meteorite community some of what we have received. I think you and Tim did just that. It is a shame that Meteorite Times has ended. You and Tim put a lot of work into it and it is/was appreciated by the vast majority of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!

2003-01-09 Thread walter branch
Jim and Paul and List, WHAT! Meteorite Times is ending? Over egos, personality conflicts, and business. It is of course, it is your right end your website but let me tell you, I think Meteorite Times is (or now, was) one of the best, most entertaining, most informative and freshest sites

[meteorite-list] Death of a dream

2003-01-09 Thread Peter Marmet
Hi Paul and list, how terribly SAD that meteoritetimes has ended !!! I' m fairly new to the fascinating world of meteorites (2 years) and very new to the list (1 week). Meteoritetimes was always very very exciting to read. I printed out every issue and read it again and again: Martins colorful

[meteorite-list] Re: Another mag bites the dust!

2003-01-09 Thread geoking
Dear Jim and Paul: I was unpleasantly surprised and dismayed by your posts to the List late last night. You are both well-liked, respected and active members of the meteorite community. Meteorite Times is just the most recent service you've provided. I happen to be well aware of one of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!

2003-01-09 Thread LabNEMS
Jim, Paul, and List: I agree with Walter on this. It's a shame when people freely give to all in this manner and have their good-will treated with bad-will. There are so many ways to make contributions in this field. Jim and Paul found one and did an honorable job at it. Perhaps with

Re: [meteorite-list] No Longer Hosting A Tucson Information Page

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Langenfeld
Paul: Held liable? On what basis? If people in the meteorite community are making such threats, it is a sad day indeed! Mark Dear List, Do to the fact that we might be held liable for mentioning one person more than another we will NOT be hosting a Tucson Information page as we have

[meteorite-list] METEORITE TIMES

2003-01-09 Thread MacovichCo
Walter and List- I am afraid that I am the individual inadvertently responsible for Paul and Jim pulling the plug on Meteorite Times, and I feel so terribly about this. I brought a matter to their attention which was not a matter of ego, but a matter of the misuse of the Market Trends column.

Re: [meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread CMcdon0923
Jim and Paul, If, due to the STUPIDITY and IMMATURITY of the party(ies) involved your decision is final, then so be it. However, could we ask that you keep the already published issues posted on the website for a few more days to allow the opportunity to print/download articles that may be

Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions On An Unclassified Saharan

2003-01-09 Thread Bernd Pauli HD
Zelimir Gabelica a écrit: The slices of the unknown, as pictured, very much resemble DAG 430, which is so far classified as C3 UNGR. Jeff inquired: I would take a somewhat semi-educated guess at an LL4 Bonsoir Zelimir, Hello Jeff, Hi List, My (equally semi-educated) guess would also be:

Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions On An Unclassified Saharan

2003-01-09 Thread fcressy
Hello Jeff and all, Except for the iron staining, your photo looks very similar to NWA531, an LL4 that can be seen on Scott Brey's website. The link to that site is: http://www.planetbrey.com/ Hope this helps. Regards, Frank - Original Message - From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Miconi
Such petty little things, these people that would kill something so valuable due to their own vanity. I have no idea what caused the fight/problem, but feel if the parties causing the problem would SIMPLY PULL THEIR OWN HEADS OUT OF THEIR ASSES, the world might be a better place. Someone needs to

[meteorite-list] Did Pluto Take a Punch?

2003-01-09 Thread Ron Baalke
http://skyandtelescope.com/news/current/article_839_1.asp Did Pluto Take a Punch? By Govert Schilling Sky Telescope January 8, 2003 If David J. Tholen (University of Hawaii) is right, Pluto was probably hit by a small Kuiper Belt object in the not-too-distant past. One consequence of that

[meteorite-list] Isotope Ratio Measurements Firm Up Knowledge of Earth's Formation

2003-01-09 Thread Ron Baalke
Isotope Ratio Measurements Firm Up Knowledge of Earth's Formation Physics Today January 2003 New measurements on primitive meteorites suggest that Earth's core formed earlier than was previously thought. -- Richard Fitzgerald A complicated interplay of processes occurred 4.6 billion years ago

Re: [meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Tracy Latimer
Mark put it more colorfully and succinctly than I ever could. Just put ditto marks underneath the entire thing for my part. Due to various crises in my family's life, I will be unable to attend Tucson this year. MeteoriteTimes and this list are (were) my best ties to the rest of the meteoric

Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!

2003-01-09 Thread nakhladog
Some days the music makers and the dreamers get drowned out by the noise makers. This is a real shame and I hope the individuals responsible can feel proud now. Makes me sick, little children. -- Rob Wesel - We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka,

[meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Michael L Blood
Dear Craig, Mark, Geoff, Walter and all list members who have benefited so much from the selfless efforts of Paul Harris and Jim Tobin, I am just sick upon reading Pual Jim's posts. I am afraid I was one of the authors mentioned, by citing my auction and not mentioning Darryl's in

[meteorite-list] Please, Out Of Respect For MeteoriteTimes.com

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Harris
Dear list, First a huge thank you to all those who said thanks! For those who think they know the whole story and can point fingers send hateful e-mails to others, then start your hate with Jim and I. Our decision was based on many things. But NOT because of a single person or event. PLEASE

[meteorite-list] International Meteor Conference 2003

2003-01-09 Thread Ron Baalke
http://aipsoe.aip.de/~rend/2003imc.html International Meteor Conference 2003 General remarks The International Meteor Organization (IMO) will hold its next International Meteor Conference (IMC) in Bollmannsruh, Germany, on 18-21 September 2003. The location is about 40 km west of Berlin, or

[meteorite-list] Re: The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Miconi
Michael, You sound very sincere and I am now starting to get more info on what happened. Maybe it may have helped to mention your intentions to discuss more items in the next months article. Something like: Next Month...The Complete Listing of All the Tucson Shows Dealers, or something that let

[meteorite-list] Re: The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Miconi
And do not resignthat will not help. Print an explanation and go forward. Resigning only deprives us all of what you have to contribute, it doesn't have to be perfect, but if it is not there, then it is way less than perfect. Mistakes are commonlearning from them so that others benefit

Re: [meteorite-list] Please, Out Of Respect For MeteoriteTimes.com

2003-01-09 Thread Tom aka james Knudson
Hello Paul, I hope you did not offend any of the cry babies on the list with this statement! Jim and I are going to Tucson. We are going to see as many Dealers as we can. We are going to have a great time at Larry, Twink and Jim's Party. We'll party harty at Geoff and Steve's Party! We'll

[meteorite-list] Looking for Searsmont

2003-01-09 Thread Ing. Christian ANGER
Hi list ! Has anybody a piece of the Searsmont meteorite for sale ? Thanks, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Witt
Greetings Paul, Jim and List, I have not as of yet read all of the responses to this issue, but I agree completely with Mark's sentiments. This is truly a sad situation and I also implore Jim and Paul to reconsider their decision. I am not a big dealer nor neccesarly what might be considered a

[meteorite-list] Death of a Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Peter Marmet
Hi list, I think before we go on picking on Michael Blood's and Darryl's head we should read very carefully what they wrote here on the list. Maybe it had been better that Michael published his text on this list (instead of the meteoritetimes). Maybe Darryl overreacted a bit but I can feel

[meteorite-list] sad

2003-01-09 Thread Dave Harris
Hello, I just thought that the last few posts (the demise of MT) were amongst the saddest posts I have ever seen sent to the list ho hum A little bit of us has died now that MT is no longer with us. We are poorer for that. dave

Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!

2003-01-09 Thread almitt
Jim and Paul, After reading most of the posts related to this most tragic event I would ask you to reconsider your decision to close down this informative online publication. I can also offer what I think is a reasonable solution to the problems. I know there may be other items that I am not

[meteorite-list] sorry to see a great magazine go away

2003-01-09 Thread STEVE ARNOLD
Hi there list. I am sorry also to see a great online publication go by the way of the edsel. I hope you guys can maybe try and give it another go. It ranks right up there with meteorite magazine. There has been some great emails from some great people who know alot more about this hobby than I'll

RE: [meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream

2003-01-09 Thread Greg Redfern
Hello List, Sigh, the loss of MT will be felt by all - the List, collectors, dealers, educators, novices, strollers of the 'net and the merely meteoritically curious. Jim, Paul, I want to thank you for sharing your dream, enthusiasm, knowledge, and most importantly, free time with and on

[meteorite-list] Time To Move On --- We Have

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Harris
Dear Greg and List, Greg, thank you for making this post to the list. AS I HAVE ALREADY SAID in a previous post there were MANY things that affected our decision. Michael Blood and Darryl Pitt are dear friends of ours and we want the personal attacks on them to stop. I'll repeat incase there

[meteorite-list] A Real Void / End Of A Magazine

2003-01-09 Thread SSachs9056
Jim, Paul and List, I can only echo the sentiments of what has been posted regarding the end of Meteorite Times. I too looked forward to each and every issue and a short time ago I suggested that all of the issues be put together into book form. I was impressed with the writing and the

[meteorite-list] My last comment

2003-01-09 Thread James Tobin
Dear List, I just got home from work and found what the list has been busy with today and it distresses me more than the closing of the magazine. We decided to stop the magazine for a host of reasons and not because of any group of individuals or particular thing. It was the accumulation of

[meteorite-list] Gold basin Hunt!

2003-01-09 Thread Tom aka james Knudson
I hope every one comming to the GB hunt as a safe trip! If you are staying in kingman let me know. : ) Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

Re: [meteorite-list] Time To Move On --- We Have

2003-01-09 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello List, It has been a very emotional day. Sometimes things have to happen to remind us we are human. Lets respect the wishes and choices of Paul and Jim. I am sure they will continue to support this hobby in a very positive way through their always exspanding website. It has always been

Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!

2003-01-09 Thread Rosemary Hackney
James .. Paul.. I am so sorry this has happened...Everyone loved the magazine as far as I could tell. and a lot of hard work went into it. I know you are depressed and upset. Reminds me of another time in my past.. er.. History. I was working on the Group Newsletter in Civil Air Patrol. As most

Re: [meteorite-list] Please, Out Of Respect For MeteoriteTimes.com

2003-01-09 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I offend someone on the list with this post. If I offended any one else I apologize to you as well as the one who let me know. I used Pauls party statement as an example of how someone can take a simple statement and make it into something big! The list has been full of people