Hi folks,
A couple of accounts of the Hraschina fall in 1751. The first observed fall of
an iron, and the first meteorite where the Widmannstatten pattern was observed:
http://historicfalls.com/18th-century/hraschina/
Mark Crawford
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It's a very old WWII Airfield. Luke Airfield #4, basically an old training OLF.
Scroll down a bit and there's a good history with a collection of photos
through the years.
http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/AZ/Airfields_AZ_Phoenix_NW.htm
--- On Mon, 5/23/11, Adam Hupe
Hello,
enjoy our wide selection of SAU 001 (Oman) meteorites. Until may 31, buy ten
SAU 001 and get one free (the tenth is free, the lightest).
Go and have a look on meteor-center.com/shop
Pierre-Marie PELE
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I payed a visit to our local museum here in Pittsburgh PA (The Carnegie Museum
of Natural History) and much to my dismay, found that there was no display of
meteorites. I know they have a nice collection, but was told by a director
there that there just wasn't that much interest in them!
Hi Mike,
if I think to Bern, Warsaw, Paris...and elsewhere,
where collectors helped to design exhibitions,
perhaps it would be nicer to come with a concept than only to complain?
Meteorites might be not as sexy like dinosaurs, but in our times of
increased planetary missions, certainly a 1st
Hi Guido, James and List,
Yes, I was thinking it was some sort of airfield but the lack of building ruins
threw me off. I did find a ~20' crater on top of a small rise that punched
through the desert pavement and left a raised rim. Perhaps the military
presence
in that area can explain this
Hi Mark,
Nice job! I love what you are doing with the site.
One correction though - The first Widmanstatten patterns were first
observed a few years earlier by G. Thomson on the Krasnojarsk iron (Pallas
Iron). See here:
http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/bk-thomson.html
Cheers,
Wow!
Excellent/intriguing post.
Maybe one agreed upon statement on a webpage with all of us as
signatories---well, those who wish to be signatories---is the way to go. And
once the number of signatures hits a critical mass, go to the Pittsburgh
Post/Gazette.
If this is not desired,
Hi Mike, Darryl, Martin, and List,
I agree with the opinions expressed here, and I'd like to add one thing.
I think this situation only further reinforces the importance of
private involvement in the realm of meteorite recovery, science, and
collecting.
Some institutions, like this one, have
Hi All,
It's commonly understood that all meteorites are magnetic to varying
degrees, or so I've read. I'm wondering if there are any exceptions to
that iron clad rule of thumb?
I've a non-magnetic mineral specimen with a black crust and what appear
to be some sort of orientation striations.
Hi Adam,
I am very envious of your adventure.
During the early days of WWII, due to the cosmic numbers of aircraft we were
using, you couldn't flight train everyone on existing active airfields, so a
large number of auxiliary airfields, also known as outlying fields, were built.
They were
Hi David,
Yes, there are meteorites which show no visible attraction to a
magnet. Such meteorites are in the minority, but they do exist. Some
examples that come to mind are - some lunars, most martians, and some
metal-poor achondrites like angrites and aubrites.
Since meteorites are
A whole section of the museum is dedicated to Andy Warhol. What does he have to
do with Natural History or minerals other than using lead paint?and
radioactive paint from the 60's and 70's exposing our children to possible
contamination that would be removed from any other institution as an
David/List:
I believe the following meteorites can have no, or negligible magnetic
pull.RumurutiitesHowarditesEucrites - may have slight
pullDiogenitesLunarsAubrites
and perhaps Martian, but they may have a slight attraction
Sounds very interesting
Greg S
G'Day List
Good video on the Georgia event.
http://spaceweather.com/
Cheers John Cabassi
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Ha...
I found three of those once - all complete individuals.
Greg S
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 17:03:56 -0700
From: jimwoodd...@gmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] My BEST meteorite-Wrong ever!!!
Hi all!
Just
I believe they have one meteorite mixed in with their mineral display ( I also
asked ) but they do have the nicest Tyrannosaurs display in the country!
MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net wrote:
I payed a visit to our local museum here in Pittsburgh PA (The Carnegie
Museum of Natural
Hi Greg and List,
Thanks for bringing up eucrites and howardites. :)
A while back, I was cutting a howardite stone for a friend, and I
noticed a big ball bearing metal inclusion. It was about 1cm in
diameter and it was visible on the surface of the stone, poking
through the crust. The
Hello Everyone,
I live in San Antonio and have been doing all of my homework. Reading, getting
pictures of stones, and even purchased a couple of samples to study. What are
the chances of searching an area that had a fall in 1950 and 1980? Would it be
a waste of time? More specifically, I
I have a relatively fresh R-chondrite and it has absolutely no magnetic
attraction.
Really cool.
My favorite meteorites are meteorites that look and are nothing like a typical
meteorite.
Greg S
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 12:32:52 -0400
Subject: Re:
Hi Ron and List,
I think the best tool in your kit is lots of determination as you mentioned.
A
radiating circle is the best way after a find has been established. This same
approach works great for establishing American Civil War battlefields and
camps. It also works well in locating the
Hi List,
In relation to the recent arrest of a woman trying to sell a Moon
Rock for $1.7 million dollars, here are some reactions for the public
at large. I really like the first one. LOL
http://www.theonion.com/articles/woman-arrested-in-moon-rock-sale-bust,20533/
Best regards,
MikeG
Ron:
Also - make sure you have a really really really good pair of shoes or boots
Best of luck,
Greg S
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:50:51 -0700
From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] noob
List:
I was wondering: which is worse (for her), being convicted of fraud, or owning
a lunar specimen and tying to sell it.
Adults do the darndest things.
Greg S
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 12:53:52 -0400
From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
To:
Don't forget that sometimes terrestrial rocks (not man-made) can show enough
magnetic attraction to make you go Hmmm, especially if it appears they show
other meteoric characteristics, like something that appears to be fusion crust
or flow lines. The local Hawaiian basalts have enough iron
Hi Mike,
I agree with Mike!
I do also like your site.
Keep up the great work!
Cheers,
Martin
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Hi MARK (of course),
I agree with Mike!
I do also like your site.
Keep up the great work!
Cheers,
Martin
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Hi David,
Not all meteorites respond to a magnet. You very well could have a lunar, or
one of the other classifications that have little if any metal in their
petrology. You'll need to have it cut and a sample examined by an expert. Your
meteor wrong just might be a rarer example of a meteor
Any report of anything making it to the ground??
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John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote:
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G'Day List
Good video on the Georgia event.
http://spaceweather.com/
Cheers John Cabassi
This object was almost certainly not capable of producing meteorites.
The data shows the value of having multiple cameras on a fireball. Most
fireballs are not capable of producing meteorites, but without being
able to determine the flight characteristics, it is very difficult to
determine
Hello Ron,
Welcome to the wonderful world of meteorites and the List. It's obvious by your
post that you already have been struck by the thunderbolt and have spent time
in getting yourself together to go get some.
From what I've read of your preparations, you don't need anyone to hold your
Thanks so much for the bump of excitement. I think most of the fun is trying
to find one. Better than trying to win the lottery!
On May 24, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Count Deiro wrote:
Hello Ron,
Welcome to the wonderful world of meteorites and the List. It's obvious by
your post that you
Can anyone tell me who holds the largest (Main Mass)
of Tatahouine?
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Hello Pete and all,
I believe the largest fragment is in the Musee d'Histoire Naturelle in
Paris.
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Thanks folks, and thanks to Mike for pointing out my oversight re Thomson.
This is now corrected :)
M
On 24 May 2011, at 18:18, karmaka wrote:
Hi Mike,
I agree with Mike!
I do also like your site.
Keep up the great work!
Cheers,
Martin
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Anyone looking for a fusion-crusted Vostok bolt?
http://historical.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6052LotIdNo=56026#Photo
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Thanks to all who responded to my non-magnetic meteorite question.
With a total weight of 27.37 grams the specimen in question has a direct
measured specific gravity of 2.59.
This would seem to rule-out both basalt (s.g. 2.7-3.1) and Tatahouine, a
Diogenite with a specific gravity range of at
List:
I hope someone makes a find.
Good luck to anyone out there, an be safe.
Greg S
http://www.dailytownsman.com/article/20110524/CRANBROOK0101/305249994/-1/cranbrook/meteorite-fell-near-wynndel
Meteorite fell near Wynndel
Last weekend's meteor over Cranbrook would have fallen north of Wynndel
It also depends on how strong your magnet is. A weak magnet may have
difficulty
being attracted to stony chondrites. My intial magnet test with Allende failed,
until I switched to a stronger magnet. I haven't found a meteorite yet that
isn't
attracted to a strong magnet..but haven't tested
Hi David,
When cutting meteorites (or suspected meteorites), use distilled water
only has a saw coolant/lubricant. Using anything else invites
contamination and instability in the specimen.
I own a large N52 rare earth magnet. It's quite powerful, and small
metal objects will fly across the
Also do not let 2 rare earth magnets slam together, I have had them shatter
like glass. They can be very unexpectedly dangerous. They are kinda like a
snake, they will get you when you least expect it!!
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Lawndale, NC
IMCA#9052
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Hi Ron,
You said you haven't tested a meteorite yet that doesn't respond to a
strong magnet. Does this include martians I assume? I tried
attracting NWA 2975 to my big magnet, but it didn't show any
attraction that I could notice. Of course, my specimen was quite
small, so it may have been a
$3000.00 bolt...yikes!!
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Lawndale, NC
IMCA#9052
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Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote:
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Anyone looking for a fusion-crusted Vostok bolt?
Still has 9 days left double yikes!!!
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:20:21 +
From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; cyna...@charter.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nice space junk
$3000.00 bolt...yikes!!
fell near Wynndel
List:
I hope someone makes a find.
Good luck to anyone out there, an be safe.
Greg S
http://www.dailytownsman.com/article/20110524/CRANBROOK0101/305249994/-1/cranbrook/meteorite-fell-near-wynndel
Meteorite fell near Wynndel
Last weekend's meteor over Cranbrook would have
Greetings Listees,
I have two meteorite-related questions to ask. The first person who
answers both correctly will win a free selection of 5 different
micromounts. These micros will include a hammer fall, 2 achondrites,
and an iron meteorite. (exact identity of these specimens will remain
a
Dear List Members,
I have 54 auctions ending in a few hours with no reserve. Currently, they are
all priced far below what you would expect to pay anywhere on the planet. I
also have some museum quality specimens do to end tomorrow with the make offer
option enabled. This will give you the
Hi List,
I want to thank everyone who responded to the questions. :)
Only one person answered both questions correctly.
Here are the correct answers :
Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding
meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites?
Answer
Hi Folks!
Wow, I am learning new things with these answers.
Serpent Mound, Bonita Springs, and Havana were found in Indian mounds.
Worden, Park Forest, and Barwell also struck automobiles.
I knew about Bonita Springs, but figured it wasn't as well-known as
Brenham. The rest of the answers
As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every
fragment
is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what
they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If
they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest
I totally agree Adam.
Sincerely
Don Merchant
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List:
I have always wondered if every single NWA was classified, just how many 'new'
discoveries would be made. I realize it may not be practical (just think of
the time and expense) by still interesting to think about.
Greg S
From:
Hi Adam,
Good point and I had not considered that. It does seem like more than
half of the Antarctics in the Bulletin weigh less than 2-5 grams.
Some weigh less than 1g.
I think we need to make sure that all NWA meteorites get their fair
due and receive individual classification. What
Hi Mike,
I think it is good to have contests and bring issues to the forefront.
You claimed:
But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001.
My response:
There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same
characteristics that made this stone
May 24, 2011
Dwayne Brown
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Adam-
There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that
exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone
most famous.
Which ones and what characteristics?
-Walter Branch
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Just a few minor corrections. Hopewell and Anasazi are not names of tribes.
They signify prehistoric traditions or cultures, not individual tribes. We
don't know the names of prehistoric tribes because they left no written
histories. The large earthworks built by Midwestern and Eastern
Hi Phil,
Thanks for the clarifications. Just when I think I am a smart cookie,
I find out that I don't know jack squat. LOL
So, I wonder what the modern finders of the Winona meteorite thought
when they dug it up? Did they know it was a meteorite at first? And
what other artifacts were found
I have a small suspect stone that will roll right off of a NDIB
supermagnet if you set it on it and tilt the magnet a little, but I
picked it up with my magnet cane. (??) I have two 2x2x1/4 NDIB
supermagnets side by side on the head of the cane. When I found the
little stone that day it
Greetings:
I just received a preliminary abstract on Lovina from Kuni Nishiizumi of UC
Berkeley's Space Sciences Laboratory. Kuni, the abstract's lead author,
concluded it is unlikely Lovina is a meteorite. The markers analyzed were
beryllium and chlorine concentrations and the paucity of
Hi Darryl,
Regardless of whether Lovina is a meteorite or not, it is a
fascinating specimen. Possibly the most interesting meteorwrong (if
that is the case) since Shirokovsky.
To me, some meteorwrongs are intriguing and my curiousity compels me
to acquire a piece and/or learn all I can about
Adam, List and all...
Will the NWA deserts continue to yield numbers? Considering the ice-sheet
models vs. desert sands, my question surrounds the ablation
issue(terrestrial)... ice vs. sand.
Which environment will yield more?? Considering constraints of foraging in
sub-zero-temp environs
Hello Mike:
It seems strange that the Sinagua people venerated an unusual achrondite
(metachondrite) meteorite stone when they were so close to the Canyon Diablo
crater and strewnfield. Surely they noticed how different the iron
meteorites were from other local rocks. Yet they chose to bury
Man, I knew that thing was too weird to be a meteorite. I wonder if the the
MetBull will take it off their list or will they leave it, like they're
doing with the Al Haggounia 001 aubrite kerfuffel.
Phil Whitmer
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Greetings:
I just received a preliminary abstract
Meteorites can be discredited. We shall have to see about this one.
Jeff
On 5/24/2011 9:59 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote:
Man, I knew that thing was too weird to be a meteorite. I wonder if
the the MetBull will take it off their list or will they leave it,
like they're doing with the Al
Hi Phil,
Exactly! I thought the same thing about Bonita Springs. A big
100-pound lump of rock that isn't pretty, isn't covered in peridot
crystals or shiny iron. Bonita was transported to a mound (pre-Calusa
in all likelihood) at a time when horses had not been introduced by
the Europeans yet.
If Lovina is not a meteorite, then I would suggest that it remain in
the Bulletin with a write-up, but should be labeled a
pseudo-meteorite like Shirokovsky.
Best regards,
MikeG
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What about the Grayton Beach stone which was found in a native midden
(garbage dump)!
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Forgive me if this is an insensitive question, I don't mean any
disrespect. Is Harold still with us? I couldn't find anything on the
web to answer that. Oddly, he doesn't have a Wikipedia entry and he
seems deserving of one.
Best regards,
MikeG
Yes, that is how it works.
Jeff
On 5/24/2011 10:14 PM, Michael Gilmer wrote:
If Lovina is not a meteorite, then I would suggest that it remain in
the Bulletin with a write-up, but should be labeled a
pseudo-meteorite like Shirokovsky.
Best regards,
MikeG
I know how disappointed you must be, Darryl. You spent a great deal of blood
and treasure directing and paying for the the analysis of this still
extraordinary apecimen. The professionalism and honesty of your efforts to find
the truth of Lovinia is apparent to all. The piece sure did capture
Well said Count. I agree 100%.
Of course, meteorite or not, it's still worth acquiring (IMO).:)
Best regards,
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Lovina remains a high priority for me!
List, please correct me, since I'm no doubt way off base here, but wasn't
the original mass's physical appearance attributed in part to a saline
submersion refractory? It was my first red-flag.
Still, Lovina is THE most amazing structure, whether or
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G'Day Everyone, (sorry too many to list)
When Lovina came to light, I was impressed. I had never seen anything
like it and to be honest, I had my doubts. Then the situation progressed
and I thought, wow, this is spectacular and you must admit, it's one
hell of a piece! My first thoughts when this
I was once forwarded a suspected meteorite by a German friend that was found by
a King on a tiny atoll in an island nation. It was very much different than
all
of the surrounding material is the reason he picked it up to begin with. We
deduced that it was probably a ballast stone. It was a
HI All,
I have put together a nice grouping of (5) different Meteorites FOR SALE on
ebay as a set.
You can also use the BUY IT NOW feature on this one!
This is a great set of (5) Meteorites including Bassi, Tishka/Tamdahkt,
Arivaca Creek, some nice size Micro's of NWA 2696 and a good sized
Hi Walter and List,
While I am certainly no expert on the subject, the discovery of organized
elements (fossil lifeforms) like the ones that made ALH84001 famous have been
found in every Nakhlite that has been analyzed so far. Researches told me and
reported in the news that NWA 998 is choked
Not just any bolt, but one off of Gagarin's Vostok?
$3k is dirt cheap.
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Phil Wrote:
All the irons associated with aboriginal peoples make it even weirder that the
Winona was treated as a special rock. We'll never know the story.
My best guess:
Winonaite inclusions are found in iron meteorites. Winona is not that far from
Meteor Crater in Winslow. Perhaps Winona
Adam,
This is true, however I was thinking more along the lines of the
crystallization age of ALH8400 setting it apart from all other Martian
meteorites, making it truly unique among Martians.
Do you or anyone else know of a Martian meteorite which comes close to the
crystallization age of
Hi,
Thanks for the kind words, Count, but in truth they are undeserved; Lovina was
determined to be a meteorite at the time of my acquisition, and I merely
facilitated further analysis once a question was raised. Had Lovina not been
included in the Meteoritical Bulletin, I can't say I would
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