Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-03-04 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dr Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-04 09:00]: On Fri, 03 Mar 2006, A. Pagaltzis wrote: I had been thinking of XML::SlickTemplate. :-) Or else I might go with XML::SimpleTemplate. They seem only a little less brand-namey than Xmplate, which I thought was a nice play on words at the time.

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-03-04 Thread Dr Bean
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Dr Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-04 09:00]: On Fri, 03 Mar 2006, A. Pagaltzis wrote: I had been thinking of XML::SlickTemplate. :-) Or else I might go with XML::SimpleTemplate. They’re better than Xmplate in that they actually contain the word

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-03-04 Thread Smylers
A. Pagaltzis writes: * Dr Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-04 10:05]: What about Template::XML? Except that it might be thought to be part of Template Toolkit. Yeah, the Template:: TLNS is nominally reserved for the Template Toolkit like DBI:: is for the DBI, even though some people have

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-03-03 Thread Dr Bean
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006, A. Pagaltzis wrote: I had been thinking of XML::SlickTemplate. :-) Or else I might go with XML::SimpleTemplate. They seem only a little less brand-namey than Xmplate, which I thought was a nice play on words at the time. Perhaps camel case appears brand-namey to me, as it

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-28 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-28 05:15]: Hmm. In pondering words for what you described as idiomatic or perlish, your comment make me wonder if XML::Sketch might capture the flavor of it? Or perhaps XML::DWIM? Those are too close to branded names. :-/ I definitely want “Template”

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-28 Thread Terrence Brannon
On 2/28/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. It would be something likeXML templating with lean syntax and embedded PerlA, just give us 2 or 3 samples of how it works... living breathing code. And then the name for it will manifest almost at once.

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-27 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-26 05:00]: Also, if anything, it would have to be XML::StrictTemplate, since XML::Template::Strict sounds like it has some sort of commonality with XML::Template, of which there is absolutely none. Now that I like better. it conveys a real

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-27 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Sébastien, * Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-26 23:25]: Maybe I miss something, but did you look at AxKit? http://www.axkit.org/ I've never used it but I've always heard about it as *the* Perl-XML web framework. yes, I’ve seen AxKit and used it. It’s nice, but I’m

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-27 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Terrence, * Terrence Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-26 04:25]: Can you give some usage examples of your approach to XML templating? I'm curious to see what you need that XML::DOM, XML::LibXML, XML::LibXSLT, and PeTaL and XML::Twig cannot do for you. errm… you’re not seriously suggesting I

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-27 Thread Terrence Brannon
On 2/27/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twig is muchbetter, but still they're not *templates*. I want to write*templates*, not code that builds the document programmatically,however easy the API for that might be.I see. I'm not a fan of the concept of templating. Templating is not my cup

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-27 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Terrence Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-27 19:55]: I don't understand what excites people about that approach. Writing the output directly in its final form instead of writing code that generates that output. In my experience, output tends to be 97% static stuff, 2.5% very simple logic,

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-27 Thread David Golden
A. Pagaltzis wrote: I don’t have anything like that yet. I’m still in the sketching phase, the code is only half-written, etc. As I said, I might end up never uploading this at all. Hmm. In pondering words for what you described as idiomatic or perlish, your comment make me wonder if

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-26 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
A. Pagaltzis wrote: Hi all, Hello Aristotle, yes, yes, a templating module. Shush. This one differs because it’s a pure-XML approach. The templates must be well-formed XML, and the design of the template language is built to ensure, as best as possible, that the output is well-formed at

Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-25 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi all, yes, yes, a templating module. Shush. This one differs because it’s a pure-XML approach. The templates must be well-formed XML, and the design of the template language is built to ensure, as best as possible, that the output is well-formed at all times as well. Much to my dismay, the

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-25 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Lincoln, * Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-25 23:30]: Usually superior designs can be used to wrap infrerior ones in a way that provide backwards compatibility... If the problem is a data file format one, then you could perhaps detect the older format, and drop down to the older

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Stosberg
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 12:22:55AM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: BTW: I don't really like XML::XMLTemplate... *What* about it do you dislike? Any objective reason, or is it just a matter of taste? I don't like the repetition. Repeating XML adds no value to the name for me. Why not go shopping

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-25 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-26 01:40]: I don't like the repetition. Repeating XML adds no value to the name for me. Well, taken versus the XML::Template approach, it makes some amount of sense. With XML::Template you don’t actually write templates so much as grammars and instances

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-02-25 Thread Terrence Brannon
Can you give some usage examples of your approach to XML templating? I'm curious to see what you need that XML::DOM, XML::LibXML, XML::LibXSLT, and PeTaL and XML::Twig cannot do for you.-- http://slowchess.com/ http://www.moneycoop.org http://www.osogd.org http://www.metaperl.com