Re: [RFC] new module proposal - Log::Colorize

2003-06-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Enrico Sorcinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-06-14 18:34]: Log::Highlight, then. Anything but *::Colorize :) I think that you wanted to say: Anything but _not_ *::Colorize ;-) You are mistaken, though. -- Regards, Aristotle

Re: Class::PObject - another solution for object persistence

2003-06-20 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Sherzod Ruzmetov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-06-18 19:47]: I couldn't think of any other place but this lists where I could get someone to review the library. You can always post on Perlmonks :) www.perlmonks.org If I'm knocking the wrong door, please kindly show me to the right one. Not the

Re: RFC Format::FileSize

2003-08-30 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michel Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-27 20:04]: So maybe Number::Format::FileSize ? I say Number::Format::ByteSize - it can be used to format anything whose size or capacity is expressed in bytes, be that a file, a disk, the computer's RAM, a process, a scalar or anything. -- Regards,

Re: Another sticky module naming issue

2003-09-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-21 01:01]: Any ideas for a better name for this module? NAME Defer - Defer execution of code until it is accessed Ok, so I'm very late to this thread (and if I don't manage to fix my DSL before I fly off to vacation you'll get this mail at least

Re: RFC: Hash::ObjectLike

2003-09-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-19 15:06]: I'd like to get people's thoughts on this proposed module, It's neat to have, although I suspect it won't be terribly useful. especially its name (Class::* doesn't seem right; Hash::Methods wouldn't be bad). I'm thinking

Re: c parsing tools?

2003-09-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-19 18:41]: C::Scan may help: Wow, what a horrible name. :) -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: :Index and podindex released

2003-09-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-22 15:35]: Actually id like to be able to pass it a hash of known files in the following format: But that restricts you to filtering by known criteria. Using a callback would allow to filter by any criteria anyone might every desire. The hash interface

Re: c parsing tools?

2003-09-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-22 18:54]: Would be nice if C::Scan could be improved and kept as a separate tool, my sense is that XSBuilder isn't very separable if you just want to scan C source and not build the XS bits. But please please put it in the Parse:: TLN, which is where

Re: RFC: SQL::ExportDB

2003-09-23 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael A Nachbaur [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-23 22:53]: It is essentially a Perl script that takes a series of SQL statements and outputs the results to a BerkeleyDB (with various indexes created, on a configurable basis). I don't think SQL::ExportDB is a good name for it. The first thing I

Re: RFC: SQL::ExportDB

2003-09-23 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael A Nachbaur [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-23 23:48]: Yes, it exports the result of multiple queries, right now, as defined in a config file managed by Config::General. One last comment: if you want to make this a generically useful module, and unless your configuration is so complex that

Re: RFC: SQL::ExportDB

2003-09-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-24 10:55]: One last comment: if you want to make this a generically useful module, and unless your configuration is so complex that it needs a dedicate language to express it, then the module should instead just take a Perl datastructure. By that

Re: RFC: SQL::ExportDB

2003-09-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-24 15:12]: Er, ok, maybe I misinterpreted take a perl datastructure. I meant the configuration should be passed in as such. Of course it would then still go from there to perform its task. -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you

Re: RFC: SQL::ExportDB

2003-09-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael A Nachbaur [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-24 15:59]: Since it really takes SQL statements and outputs the result to a hash (the export part being an implied aspect of invoking an SQL query) would it not make more sense to call it DBIx::SQL2Hash? Again, SQL2Hash sounds like it's building

Re: RFC: Hash::ObjectLike

2003-09-25 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Your quotation came out really wrong.. -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: sub-packages for object-oriented modules

2003-10-04 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James E Keenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-04 23:19]: So that's why I've been sending the To: copy to the OP or the person to whom I'm directly replying or quoting most frequently, and Cc:ing the list. But that means the To: recipient gets 2 copies. Is this a case where business etiquette

Re: [rfc] Module Naming issues

2003-10-07 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Marcus Thiesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-07 16:38]: It is currently named MPlayer.pm (which is quite idiomatic use MPlayer;) but I'm not sure if this is OK for CPAN (top level namespace) and follow up modules (if someone bothers to write real c bindings for perl, maybe MPlayer::Slave would

Re: [rfc] Module Naming issues

2003-10-08 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Marcus Thiesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-08 22:28]: On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:34, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Why not request that a Media TLNS be created, with the Video TLNS being deprecated in favor of: Media::Video::* Media::Audio::* Media::ThingWeHaveNotThoughtOf::* Because

Re: General format conversion module

2003-10-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-22 19:06]: Any suggestions? Also, it's fixated on files, which I think the module was not supposed to be. Considering there's a Convert:: TLNS, I'd put it in there. Format is a bit too vague for my taste; assuming it should be able to do

Re: General format conversion module

2003-10-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-27 03:15]: * Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-22 19:06]: Any suggestions? Also, it's fixated on files, which I think the module was not supposed to be. This happens when you over-edit mails. That belonged to my reply to Yves

Re: Class::FakeAttributes -- Opinions Wanted

2003-10-31 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-31 10:55]: I've uploaded it to Cpan as somewhere to put it for discussion: http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Class::FakeAttributes This has been invented by Abigail quite a while ago and is called inside out objects. See

Re: name for a module that implements dynamic inheritance?

2003-10-31 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-31 18:57]: Moreover, this isn't quite the traditional decorator pattern, which involves wrapping an _object_. Instead, this wraps _classes_. Maybe something like Class::DecoratorClass or Class::Decorate would be good? I'd prefer

Re: name for a module that implements dynamic inheritance?

2003-10-31 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-31 20:20]: The class builds/manipulates @ISA relationships of classes dynamically, right? How about Class::DynamicISA then? This implies that it modifies @ISA. In fact, it _never_ modifies @ISA for the classes passed to it. How about

Re: name for a module that implements dynamic inheritance?

2003-10-31 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* John Siracusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-31 20:59]: How about going the more fanciful route: Class::Chameleon or Class::Octopus? -John The problem with fancy names is they make hard if not impossible for people to find what they're looking for. See Jarkko's Zen of Comprehensive Archive

Re: Class::FakeAttributes -- Opinions Wanted

2003-11-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-03 17:34]: in hind site implementing an inside out object/attribute is so easy (its pretty small, heres what I use for good general coverage:) use Scalar::Util qw(refaddr); { my %attrib; sub inside_out { my $s=shift; if

Re: Class::FakeAttributes -- Opinions Wanted

2003-11-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-03 19:42]: Wouldn't this do what you want (roughly, it may not actually compile...) Not really. The idea would be to (be able to) have attributes stored in tightly scoped lexical hashes.. which doesn't seem doable other than by a source filter

Re: Class::FakeAttributes -- Opinions Wanted

2003-11-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-03 19:42]: $ perl -Mstrict -wle 'my $f = { }; my @a = @{ $f-{foo} }' Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at -e line 1. Oi. I'm getting the autovivification stuff mixed up.. (A good sign that Perl DWIMs so well that I rarely have

Re: Class::FakeAttributes -- Opinions Wanted

2003-11-04 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-04 10:49]: What else do you mean by tightly scoped? Something like this: * Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-03 17:34]: use Scalar::Util qw(refaddr); { my %attrib; sub inside_out { my $s=shift; if (@_) {

Re: Class::FakeAttributes -- Opinions Wanted

2003-11-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-06 19:41]: Well, maybe there are ways around the problems mentioned before. I think there are. Im just not sure yet. Yves Definitely. I have ideas for some of them. I just have more important work to do for the time being.. -- Regards, Aristotle

Re: How to indicate a dependency in my module

2003-11-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bruno Negrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-10 20:11]: Im finishing to write a module, Proc::Daemontools, and it requires that the daemontools package be installed on a machine for it to work. Where must I indicate that this module have a dependency? I can't believe noone understood what you

Re: Tie::Array::Sorted

2003-11-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bruno Negrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-12 18:47]: Also, you could try to guess (via regexps) if the data to be sorted is numeric or alphabetical and use the appropriate subrouting to order it. Bleah. This kind of second-guessing easily leads to surprises. Being explicit is good. --

Re: How to indicate a dependency in my module

2003-11-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bruno Negrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-13 16:32]: Even if I use the technique you suggested, when an automated cpan-tester went to install my module, it will fail if it didn't have daemontools installed, right? I'm not sure how CPAN testers would react to that result, but even if they

Re: Tie::Array::Sorted

2003-11-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Randy W. Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-13 16:32]: Hmm, Jarkko has a nice set (err, no not those), but (and no not that either) [ ... ] Randy. Your name is very appropriate. :-) -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: What Devel::SawAmpersand does?

2003-11-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bruno Negrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-13 18:33]: I read the Devel::SawAmpersand documentation but I simply could not understand what this module does. Instead of its documentation explains what this module does, the documentation teaches techniques to avoid $', $ and $` variables You

Re: Submitting a new module? (Linux::ForkControl)

2003-11-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Brad Lhotsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-13 17:58]: Anyone see this as useful? Sure is. Is 'Linux::ForkControl' a decent name for this module? I don't think so. We already have a TLNS for process related stuff - Proc::. Okay, so this is Linux specific. That belongs in the name too. And

Re: Submitting a new module? (Linux::ForkControl)

2003-11-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Brad Lhotsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-13 20:35]: There are similar modules, but their interface is different. I've only found Parallel::ForkManager to be close, implementation wise, to do what my module does. Either your description was unclear, or I misread it. Also, I didn't feel like

Re: Author's namespace

2003-11-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Fergal Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-14 13:10]: But what about code that is shared by several CPAN modules but which I don't consider to be worth getting up to standard for general use. It's not that the code is trash, it's fine I just can't see anyone else wanting to use it, even if it

Re: I need a better name than File_Shred

2003-11-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Jim Cromie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-14 09:35]: My version has a different focus, namely to find duplicate code chunks, write macros for them, and invoke those macros. So maybe a different name is appropriate. So it is aimed at processing C sources? Then File:: is the wrong TLNS for it,

Re: Looking for help with Net::SSH::Perl Net::SFTP

2003-11-21 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-19 20:32]: Also, any suggestions on where else to post this? PerlMonks might be a good place, as is clpm, I assume. -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: Syntax::Highlight

2003-11-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Andrew C. Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-21 19:34]: At 03:17 PM 11/21/2003 +0100, you wrote: * Enrico Sorcinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-21 13:16]: How about Text::Highlight::* for your module? I was just going to suggest the same. Including for your Log module - although

Re: namespace for module

2003-12-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Pinglei Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-03 01:20]: I try to get some help for naming my modules:XORT (XML object to relational translator). Here db schema follow certain common rules, and XML DTD will have direct mapping from schema (we have tested intensively on Drosophila data) to XML DTD.

Re: HTTP::Parser module

2003-12-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-13 12:08]: I'd like to contribute an HTTP::Parser module to CPAN. I like the idea. parse which takes some text and either: dies (on error) (I can return a string if people prefer it), or returns: 0: want more data but don't know how much -1: like 0

Re: HTTP::Parser module

2003-12-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 19:22]: Yes, it is, the return values are just hints. Of course if it asks for n and you give it m n it'll return back n-m the next time, and if you give it less than a line and it asked for a line it will return the line-hint (-2) again. If it

Re: Simple multi-level tie

2003-12-18 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-18 20:01]: I think I lean towards the modification of $_ in-place as it seems a little more Perlesque. Given the name Tie::Filter, I'd agree. -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: Simple multi-level tie

2003-12-18 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-18 19:02]: However, at this point, this project is becoming far more serious than the original idea Which is always good when code's meant to go onto CPAN :-) The wrapped object must be of the same type as the tie itself since the

Re: RFC: Date::Iterator

2003-12-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Marco Marongiu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-19 19:21]: But... well, I'll say in italian: Cio` che hai in piu` non ti impoverisce; I don't have a good translation in english, but it could sound like things you got and don't need don't make you poor. And that is exactly the reason why I agree

Re: Date::Iterator, pollution, rating system, and how to make CPAN a better place [was: Re: RFC: Date::Iterator]

2003-12-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-24 09:39]: I think it _is_ useful to get the word 'Day' in there, since someone _could_ come along and choose to implement Date::Calc::Hour::Iterator... (or HourIterator) .. (you would be setting the pattern I would think) etc. If it were just

Re: Lingua::EN::Inflect extension name

2004-01-01 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-01 14:57]: The best name I've heard so far is Lingua::EN::Inflect::Convert. Any better suggestions? I wanted to call it Normalize but that's horrible. I was thinking along the same lines as hsmyers - maybe ::Pluralize. Would ::Stem be correct? If so -

Re: Simple multi-level tie

2004-01-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* david nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-06 20:03]: I'm also safe from the implementation needing the flock bits if it uses them. I don't know that they do, but I also don't know that they don't. You're also safe because tieing and locking is not an atomic operation, and some DBM libraries

Re: Version Numbers

2004-01-09 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-09 12:37]: So, what do people like or prefer, and why? I don't yet have any modules on CPAN (I do have an ID and plans for it), but I intend to handle this the way Andy does and I also prefer it as a user of modules when authors keep to that practice.

Re: Version Numbers

2004-01-09 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Elizabeth Mattijsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-09 14:11]: I think the packaged with distribution is a _very_ nice extra addition that could be automatically handled with Devel::Required. Laziness good. :-) Something like: =head1 DISTRIBUTION INFORMATION This file was packaged with

Re: Version Numbers

2004-01-09 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Elizabeth Mattijsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-09 15:15]: Hmmm... now there are two catches to implement this in Devel::Required. - Is Devel::Required still a good name then? I think not, but I have not the slightest clue what to propose. All I know is it's dealing with versions, so maybe

Re: Version Numbers

2004-01-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Elizabeth Mattijsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-10 13:43]: Do we have a name for this beast? Devel::Panacea doesn't seem right either... ;-) I think the keywords for summarizing its intent are documentation and consistent, but I think I'm missing a better keyword. I don't have any good

Re: Possible module for 'safer' signal handling....

2004-01-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-12 10:02]: On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 15:50, Tim Bunce wrote: It might also be worth adding some mechanism to integrate with Sys::Signal http://search.cpan.org/src/DOUGM/Sys-Signal/Signal.pm I took a look that this. It is little bit of perlxs glue

Re: RFC: CGI::UploadDB

2004-01-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-12 23:22]: OK Name? Sounds good to me. Useful idea? Most certainly. (This question being the sole reason for me to pipe up, really.) It would've been cool to have this back when I was trying to write a script for such duties. Clear documentation?

Re: would you$please shut the door?

2004-01-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* david nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-13 13:56]: Is this an appropriate post to module-authors or would it be better taken to fun-with-perl? It's a module announcement... Both? Actually, proabably neither. Who knows? :-) -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't

Re: would you$please shut the door?

2004-01-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* david nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-13 13:56]: Acme::please is for randomly inserting please into your output via a tied scalar. The string and printing percentage are both configurable (see the documentation.) It would be nice if there were a way to correlate two instances of the

Re: Re3: Re: How about class Foo {...} definition for Perl?

2004-01-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Terrence Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-19 10:54]: There is also PApp::* by Marc Lehmann, short for [P]erl [App]lication My understanding is that PApp is actually a proper name for his framework, not a generic TLNS. -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take

Re: Re3: Re: How about class Foo {...} definition for Perl?

2004-01-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Chris Josephes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-19 14:39]: I think sooner or later, we're all going to have to bite the bullet and go with Java class naming conventions, like IMO, it is of the essence that modules have descriptive names. Otherwise, searching for something specific becomes nigh

Re: cpan name spaces (was: Re: Re3: Re: How about class Foo {...} definition for Perl? )

2004-01-20 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Chris Josephes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-20 12:02]: In most cases, you'll only refer to the full name of the module once. Then why would it even matter that much? The idea of organizing namespaces is to resolve the issues CPAN maintainers have had with naming conflicts, or namespace

Re: cpan name spaces (was: Re: Re3: Re: How about class Foo {...} definition for Perl? )

2004-01-20 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Martyn J. Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-20 12:02]: Version numbering works great for linear systems, which generally occur only with single authorship. If you do your own version of Term::ProgressBar, and call it 3.00, and someone else does too, they will probably call it... 3.00.

Re: cpan name spaces (was: Re: Re3: Re: How about class Foo {...} definition for Perl? )

2004-01-20 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Fergal Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-20 14:34]: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 12:17:51PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: Perl does not provide for keeping around same-named modules that differ in some other way. That's not true. There are many modules where for example version 1.xx has one

Re: [Class::MultiList] Need feedback for first distribution

2004-01-21 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* david nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-21 13:09]: I think its that as soon as you have AUTOLOAD defined, you can't inherit past that point, at least by the ISA mechanism: the AUTOLOAD function needs to know how to punt. You think wrong. $ perl -l package Foo; sub bar { print oy

Re: VERSION as (interface,revision) pair and CPAN++

2004-01-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* david nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-22 03:43]: and rewriting Crequire in some way to respect that? Obviously you don't even need to; providing a custom VERSION() is all you have to do. -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: New module Mail::SendEasy

2004-01-29 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Graciliano M. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-27 06:16]: First, I didn't know MIME::Lite until Orton send me an e-mail in this list. Of all the things that bother me in this discussion, this one bothers me the most. The reason for this, I think, is two-fold. Obviously Gracilliano's research

Re: Fwd: Re: New module Mail::SendEasy

2004-01-29 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Overmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-29 02:12]: But of course, he feels the need to insult other people's work to promote his own. It's his way of gaining importance. I don't think he's insulting in order to promote so much as simply being vocal about his dissatisfaction with existing

Re: Idea for new module: A bridge between Perl and R-project

2004-01-29 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Graciliano M. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-29 19:55]: I'm working on a module that make a bridge between the R-project intepreter and Perl. The R Project is about statistics; a search on CPAN reveals that there's a toplevel namespace called Statistics. That's basically your module name right

Re: Need advice for new module for Fast CGI, for enverioments without mod_perl.

2004-02-04 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Graciliano M. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-04 20:54]: Soo, in the cgi-bin, let's say, you have a binary built in C, that make a socket connection (or nay other IPC) to a another process that is a Perl script that will receive all the %ENV that Apache send, soo the script can simulate that

Re: Need advice for new module for Fast CGI, for enverioments without mod_perl.

2004-02-05 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-05 11:58]: I'd call it pperl, for Persistent Perl. Oh, wait. http://search.cpan.org/dist/PPerl/PPerl.pm His proposition does do some more stuff on the C stub side than the pperl stub does. (I'm not sure how much of a relevant difference (read: merit to

Re: New module Mail::SendEasy

2004-02-07 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-05 15:17]: I think the name is unhelpful. ... Then, somehow, I encountered MIME::Lite. It seems to do everything I want and be easier to use than the alternatives, and I use it for all mail-sending. But I'd never've thought to try it in the first place.

Re: New module Mail::SendEasy

2004-02-07 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-05 15:17]: Mail::Simple? I came up with that independently (ie before seeing your question here), actually, and still think it's the best. Mail::Formally::Known::As::Mime::Lite? Surely that would be Mail::Symbol? -- Regards, Aristotle If you

Re: Class::HPLOO - Need advice in attributes and object persistence for OODB.

2004-02-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-09 10:57]: This wheel has been re-invented far too many times already. That has never bothered some people. :) -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: Testing output to STDOUT and STDERR

2004-02-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Adriano R. Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-09 01:56]: While writing tests for some of my code, I was faced with the issue of capturing what the code sends to STDOUT and STDERR. As I have not found a module to make it easy, I wrote a trivial code to do it. It is used like this:

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-10 16:31]: With Perl modules, I think there is typically less on the line than $100,000 contracts. I found in my own experience that people are generally trustworthy. Precisely this lack of consequence actually makes me feel it might be more

Re: Finding the module you want

2004-02-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Eric Cholet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-10 18:51]: There is of course another category of modules that I use, larger systems such as a templating module, or a date module. For those, I have found that hanging around mailing lists and forums quickly point me to the better alternatives. And

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Rocco Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-12 11:29]: Conveniently, I've written exactly the thing that provides the features I need, in a way that's most convenient for my purpose. Everything else pales by comparison, otherwise I would not have written it. Here, let me show you. Are you

Re: pure perl Zlib

2004-02-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-15 22:44]: ...but it doesn't use Zlib! :) Compress::Gzip? * Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-15 22:53]: But it doesn't compress. Compress:Gunzip? Uncompress::Gzip (Neither really meant as serious suggestions) Problem is that it's an

Re: Module lists: defining the problem, restating the goals [was Re: OK, so we've decided...]

2004-02-16 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michel Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-16 10:57]: (At least the Perl-XML folks got it right, props to Grant McLean!). You don't put yourself in a particular spot on Google, you just get there by being linked from lots of places. You have zero control over whether and where you appear in

Re: pure perl Zlib

2004-02-16 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-16 11:53]: (Meanwhile it could emulate the whole API and just return errors when interfaces it doesn't support are called.) That's an excellent suggestion and nicely resolves the naming issue as a side effect. Very nice. -- Regards, Aristotle If you

Re: Module lists: defining the problem, restating the goals [was Re: OK, so we've decided...]

2004-02-16 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michel Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-16 13:43]: Then the problem is why don't those pages show up higher when you search on google? They come back fast enough, I suppose they are static, can anyone confirm this? Again this is not a factor. All you have to do is make sure you don't use

Re: defining 'constants' at run time

2004-03-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Jochen Stenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 12:19]: the base technique is to build a use constant statement at runtime and evaluate it via eval(). No, if you are using constant.pm, the technique is to require constant; constant-import(FOO = 'bar'); eval(EXPR) is usually a red flag. --

Re: IO::Epoll

2004-03-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bruce J Keeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 09:57]: IO::Epoll exposes the low-level epoll system calls (epoll_create, epoll_ctl and epoll_wait), but it also has a higher-level OO API designed to be a drop-in replacement for IO::Poll. As a stopgap solution f.ex to test the stability of your

Re: advice needed on Lingua::Identification

2004-03-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-26 17:29]: I'm putting together some things I have and creating a module named Lingua::Identification. Just a comment on the name: personally, I'd much prefer ::Identify. It's half as long, says exactly the same thing, and it feels less awkward to

Re: defining 'constants' at run time

2004-03-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 11:43]: i want to be able to define 'constants' in a module at run time, rather than at compile time. 'use constant' does it too early. for example: use Foo; my $foo = new Foo; $foo-mkconst('DOH', 25); printf(DOH=%d\n, DOH);

What's the news on the module list and curators proposals?

2004-04-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
There hasn't been any post about in a while and I thought this was too important to just let it run out of steam and die off. If there has been discussion or work being done in a public place other than this mailinglist, can we have a pointer? -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at

Re: too many tests?

2004-05-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Orton, Yves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-05 14:18]: Normally you would do a proof on something like this. And you would work through the code and ensure that it actually does what the proof says it must. Think about it, any other approach would require an infinite number of tests. Or at

Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-30 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Randy W. Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-14 01:40]: It would be much nicer if it was readable as a nntp or at least a mailing list; I've always found http-based discussion boardss awkward to navigate and difficult to figure out what I have and haven't read. Wonder why this hasn't been done?

Re: New module: CGI::Tooltip

2004-06-17 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-17 16:15]: So I think a good name might be JavaScript::Tooltip::HTML. I put in another vote for this. Regards, -- Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.

Re: New module: CGI::Tooltip

2004-06-18 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Becky Alcorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-18 10:57]: At this point the module is HTML specific. That's why the suggestion includes a ::HTML specifier. The javascript library that we're using only works in browsers as far as we know, Yes, but even if it might not be possible to use *this*

Re: New module: CGI::Tooltip

2004-06-21 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-19 20:35]: Seems like a really good example of a module that could benifit from meta data, and multi-category placement. If it weren't for existing categories, and still needed a category structure, I'd personally think something like the

Re: Sub::Suspension

2004-06-23 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Steffen Goeldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-23 16:22]: Obviously, the Sub:: prefix doesn't provide unambiguous context information. (If I'd written a thread related module, I guess, there would be no discussion about Thread::Suspension.) How about another prefix (avoiding a new top level)?

Re: New Module: HTML::DragDrop

2004-06-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-24 15:46]: HTML::DragDrop::Javascript HTML::DragAndDrop::Javascript Is there a way to implement Drag and Drop with HTML /without/ using JavaScript? I suspect not. Thus, I think it could be appropriate to drop 'Javascript' from the name I'm

Re: New Module: HTML::DragDrop

2004-06-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-24 17:11]: I can't think of how drag'n'drop could be implemented without JavaScript. Not possible. Tooltips are, because using CSS you can define reactions to hovering the mouse over something. But you can't define reactions to clicks. Regards, --

Re: New Module: HTML::DragDrop

2004-06-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Chris Josephes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-24 19:50]: Also, I'm 90% sure there's no other method (besides JavaScript) to implement DD. If some guy down the road manages to do it in VBScript, he can always register Html::DragAndDrop::VBScript. It can certainly be done in VBScript. Anything

Re: not-so-plain documentation

2004-06-25 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-25 05:11]: I've seen pod2usage() and this would work, but most of these scripts have some defaults set for variables that can be changed with the GetOptions flags and I'd like to show these defaults at least in the help message. You are looking for

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-10 01:02]: Right now I'm leaning towards either keeping WWW::Map or going with WWW::MapService. I think the former is actually reasonably clear given the WWW namespace, which is all about interacting with web stuff, not generating HTML or anything like

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bruno Negrão [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-13 23:53]: Hi Aristotle, My module differs from DateTime::Duration because it is not dealing with dates. It does not try to foresee which is a future of past date based in a bunch of seconds. It just provide a means to calculate a time quantity

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-14 03:25]: Ah, so you reinvented DateTime::Format::Duration. Actually, I think he reinvented Time::Seconds, which is part of the Time::Piece distro. Well, both, I guess. Goes to show how many, *many* people have written this sort of thing before in

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-14 19:26]: Some of them _are_ registered, but that document you're referring to hasn't been regenerated since 2002/08/27! I wish the CPAN folks would just remove it if it won't be generated regularly. Does anyone else here think that the list should

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-14 19:41]: Does anyone else here think that the list should probably just be done away with entirely? Given the fact that most authors seem to not register their stuff, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is slow as heck, and that the web pages never get

Re: Finding prior art Perl modules (was: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy)

2004-07-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Scott W Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-14 19:38]: It would be interesting to calculate the importance of a module by how many other modules link to it, either via a use statement or by reference in the POD, much like Google does with Web page links. I was thinking the same thing, and I

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