or not someone needs to install
T::E. It's a pretty standard module; they'll need it sooner or later :)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
Dmitri Tikhonov wrote:
Dear fellow Perl module authors:
I have a test suite for my distribution (RT-Client-REST) that requires
some modules that the module itself does
BTW, I have some free time to devote to maintaining modules. So, if you
want to unload one, let me know.
Although, for some reason I doubt that anyone who reads module-authors
wants to give up their modules :)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
Ovid wrote:
Hi all,
No names, but if you happen
Is there software that needs to be written? I could write a small
Catalyst application to handle this, if someone is willing to host it.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
1. Place for current module authors/maintainers who wish to transfer
maintenance of certain modules to so indicate.
2. Place
Isn't CPANTS down indefinitely?
I guess such thing should be part of CPANTS.
Gabor
for me :)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
any problems.
Send patches, send good bug reports. We're a community here, everyone
/wants/ to help everyone else. Forget about who owns what, though,
because it just doesn't matter.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
Mark Stosberg wrote:
Ovid wrote:
Hi all,
No names, but if you happen
is not an advertising list :)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
Jerry Hedden wrote:
Jonathan Rockway queried:
Did anyone else get a message like this via their CPAN alias?
Yep. I did.
If this is the case, I'm going to report it to spamcop.
Great idea. Please do.
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! :)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
Ryan Golhar wrote:
Is there a HOW-TO for adding a module to CPAN? I recently got a PAUSE
account and uploaded a tar.gz module I created. However I'm not sure
what to do after that. I don't see a Help menu item on the PAUSE menu
so I'm not sure what to do...
Ryan
no_index:
DB: 1
WTH am I doing wrong?
It looks like Module::Install does this:
no_index:
directory:
- t
- t/lib
- foo/bar
i.e.:
YAML::Dump({no_index = {directory = [qw|t t/lib foo/bar|]}})
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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the code with each data update.)
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Jonathan Rockway
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;$;]-[$_].q; ;for 1..4;$,=~s;^.;;;$,});$;-setup;
is lower than the real CPAN version. That should prevent
future version problems.
Hope that helps.
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Jonathan Rockway
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Darek Dwornikowski wrote:
One question, If i wont to write perl bindings for some library what
should i use ? I am thinking about bindings for rsbac.
SWIG is probably a good start, although it doesn't play well with CPAN
(it can be made to, though). Otherwise there's h2xs if you want to
write
David Landgren wrote:
I recommend against deleting it, because that only add fuel to the fire.
The crackpot who uploaded this drivel in the first place will be able to
crow freedom of speech and it's all a communist plot, there really is a
perl cabal and they're out to get me and blah blah
David Landgren wrote:
Continuing as the devil's advocate, I still can't decide if that's just
a parody on the whole license issue. It's just too over the top.
That said, I agree that CPAN doesn't have to be the vector for
distributing this useless drivel. While the license gave me a big
,
Jonathan Rockway
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On Thursday 08 March 2007 13:59, Jonas B. Nielsen wrote:
I will look into converting all tabs to spaces, it is simply in the
fingers and I find it hard to not use tab, perhaps I should just map the
key to something else - actually I do not get all the fuss about
tabs, but I will clean it up.
don't really want to back
out of that now
Why don't y'all just use Module::Install? It handles build_requires, AND you
can bundle modules with your dist, in case dependencies worry you. Problems
solved.
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On Wednesday 02 May 2007 09:26:56 am Ovid wrote:
--- Keith Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, Zawodny was a joke. But JWZ is still Zawinski, not Zawinsky.
Gah. Kill me now, please.
Some people, when confronted with a problem, think Gah. Kill me now,
please. Now they have two problems.
!
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Jonathan Rockway
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now.
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On Sunday 06 May 2007 10:50:52 pm Adam Kennedy wrote:
Jonathan Rockway wrote:
Hi all,
I noticed search.cpan is acting differently now (probably due to the HOOO
perl fiasco). Were these changes discussed anywhere publicly before they
were made? I'm interested in a full list of changes
in
question are File::Attributes, File::Attributes::Simple,
File::Attributes::Extended, and Directory::Scratch.
Thanks!
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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The bizrate search.cpan is broken. The most recent module (judging by the
recent tab) is from 5 days ago, 23 May.
I'm told that the UK mirror (digitalcraftsmen) is running fine.
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you can actually use EUMM syntax:
requires ( foo = '0.01', MyApp = '3.14', ... ) # parens, not {}
or:
requires foo = '0.01'
requires MyApp = '3.14';
TMTOWTDI :)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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On Thursday 24 May 2007 08:29:55 am Graham Barr wrote:
On May 23, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Andy Lester wrote:
At first I thought I might have deleted two revisions of
WWW::Mechanize by mistake, but it's not just Mech: SOAP::Lite is
missing revisions.
http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP-Lite/
of anything on CPAN that does this. However, I
think inheriting variables is a *terrible* idea.
What is your reason for wanting to use variables instead of properly
delegating to methods?
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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. I don't want to release a new dist just to add a tag to my module.
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Jonathan Rockway
worth adding, or is it time to forget about it?)
As for keywords, can I use those for anything? It would be nice to
replace the manually-generated categories on search.cpan (and other
places) with popular tags. Maybe that's too web 2.0y but I think it
might be nice :)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
Jean-Christian Hassler wrote:
Hello !!
I would like to create a module to use as a view in the catalyst
framework.
You should ask on the Catalyst list instead. See
http://lists.scsys.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/catalyst
for details.
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Jonathan Rockway
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on the
Catalyst list though. Anything that's tangentially related to Catalyst
is welcome there, and there's a lot more traffic than on module-authors.
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Jonathan Rockway
, it is annoying if you run into an edge
case that doesn't work. I never have though. In fact, I've even gotten
away with things like 'use lib $Bin/../lib' working across platforms :)
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Jonathan Rockway
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Ovid wrote:
I do get tired of writing code like that (it happens a lot in test
suites when I have use_ok $CLASS in a BEGIN block).
OT, but 'ok.pm' is quite nice:
use Test::More tests = 1;
use ok 'My::Module'; # test runs at compile time
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Jonathan Rockway
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Pearce, Martyn wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Rockway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pearce, Martyn wrote:
It is? How so?
Don't top-post. It ruins the flow for people trying to reply to you.
Fair point, apologies. I blame outlook, which I use only
Andy Armstrong wrote:
On 9 Oct 2007, at 11:05, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
What a fucking joke.
If it's a joke you should use Comic Sans so everyone /knows/ it's funny.
No no, Comic Sans is for presentations to the shareholders!
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Jonathan Rockway
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this problem before.
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$optional = join ',', @RECOMMENDS;
return EOM;
test-exclude-recommends:
\tperl -MDevel::Hide=-from:children,$optional 'exec(make test)'
EOM
}
Untested.
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Jonathan Rockway
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behaves the same regardless of whether PP or XS
is installed.
JMHO.
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Jonathan Rockway
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pseudohashes.
IMO, Devel::Declare is the right way to do this sort of thing. Messy
code, but much safer to use (and more tests; the test shiped with
Macrame scares me with how little it covers).
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Jonathan Rockway
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because single inheritance is
a failed experiment? Should we stop using Perl because TMTOWTDI is a
failed experiment?
To be clear, my point is that everyone thinks differently. What you
consider failure many consider success.
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Jonathan Rockway
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quite successful; for example, Moose.
The great thing about Perl is you can choose what to use. Don't like
macros? Don't use 'em. Don't like people using macros in CPAN modules?
Don't use 'em. Trying to control what other people think and do will
get you nothing except flames.
Regards,
Jonathan
).
http://search.cpan.org/~apeiron/local-lib-1.001000/lib/local/lib.pm
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Jonathan Rockway
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On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 13:50 -0500, Keith Ivey wrote:
Jonathan Rockway wrote:
Uh, in en_US we say this too.
There are people in the US (and probably other places) for whom I went
to the zoo this Sunday is perfectly grammatical. Some might say this
past Sunday to distinguish it from
Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
To be honest, it's usually humans that provide the least useful
reports. The bots do a much better job.
If they're using CPAN::Reporter, then it's all the same.
Humans include a lot of extra junk
the problem is and start working on a
fix. (It would be nice if the main cpantesters site updated faster
also, but I'm fine with just email.)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
your
module as a simple package IO::Socket::INET6::Shlomi; use base
IO::Socket::INET6; 1.
It's not *ideal*, but we don't live in an ideal world. This is a pretty
good solution, though.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
there's no need to worry too much about the name. Good
code speaks for itself ;)
(Who would guess that Angerwhale is blogging software or that
Catalyst is a web framework? Hopefully nobody, but both have quite a
few users.)
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
.
The cpan-testers mailing list is a mailing list that sends *every* cpan
testers report; good for, say, irc bots that announce the results of
testers reports live.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
,
Jonathan Rockway
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it myself? (I think other people
should consider adopting this attitude :) If they do, there will be more
coding and less whining on mailing lists, which is always good.)
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Jonathan Rockway
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to
Planet Perl and start writing. Instant access to 2000+ readers.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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Jonathan Rockway
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Jonathan Rockway
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in
t_author instead. It works well enough :)
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Jonathan Rockway
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kwalitee, don't forget to use strict and warnings:
xt/use strict; use warnings; $ENV{PAUSE_ID} eq 'JROCKWAY'/pod_coverage.t
xt/use strict; use warnings; !-e 'META.yml'/prerelease.t
Yes, I'm kidding. :)
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Jonathan Rockway
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:)
Names for modules need to be somewhat related to what they do, but you
probably shouldn't devote too much mental energy to coming up with a
name. It's just not *that* important. (Opaque identifiers)++
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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. If svref_2object
affects its argument, then it's probably best to write a module that
compensates for this behavior.
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Jonathan Rockway
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really easy to fix once you know about them. So a module that
makes them easy to find would be very good for everyone :)
Thanks for your work so far ;)
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Jonathan Rockway
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around with something like:
package Work::Around;
use strict; use warnings;
use Sub::Exporter -setup = { exports = [qw/foo bar/] };
use Broken::Module qw(foo bar);
1;
Untested, but something like that.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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don't know and I don't care. Does anyone else?
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Jonathan Rockway
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simply a copy paste issue. Isn't
the a more comfortable way?
These don't work either:
lamp
linux, apache, mysql, perl
/lamp
What is stopping you from post-processing this into the data you want?
You are but a simple split away from having this syntax work.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
, this code will run to load it. Totally
untested, but something like this should work.
BTW, I would just use YAML (or JSON) here. Config::General is one of
the ugliest file formats I've ever seen, and it maps poorly to Perl.
YAML is nice looking and maps perfectly to Perl.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
, but last time I tried Padre, I commented out all the
references to threads (non-threaded perl here) and it worked fine.
Maybe it doesn't really require threads?
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Jonathan Rockway
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;a=summary )
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on tickets offline. I find this much nicer than
maintaining my own infrastructure.
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Jonathan Rockway
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* On Tue, Jan 27 2009, Andy Lester wrote:
On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
Can I prevent people from opening tickets on rt.cpan,org. Does the
bugtracker item in META.yml cascade through to the front page of
search.cpan?
No, it doesn't.
Yes, it does. See
http
/elisp/html_node/Overlays.html
BTW Padre folks, you should use this module :)
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Jonathan Rockway
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everyone's time, and doesn't make any code more maintainable. (Since
I'll just have to cut-n-paste to work around it.)
In general, whenever Java does something, you actually want the
opposite. This case is no exception.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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that brain damage anyway:
http://search.cpan.org/~swalters/Acme-RightSideOutObject-0.01/lib/Acme/RightSideOutObject.pm
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Jonathan Rockway
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reading cpan-hatings or
some wiki will.
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Jonathan Rockway
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* On Wed, Apr 08 2009, Burak Gürsoy wrote:
Maybe you should learn to read first before replying anything.
Maybe you should learn to write before replying anything?
:)
Seriously, though, do we really need to have a personal-attack-war?
Let's make fun of Python instead!
Regards,
Jonathan
off-the-shelf solution.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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* On Thu, Apr 09 2009, Bill Ward wrote:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Rockway j...@jrock.us wrote:
Most people I know compile one perl for each of their applications. The
OS perl is for the OS, not for you. (OK, and packages the OS installs.
Basically, if you plan
.
(BTW, when I fix the perl build system, you will have to go way out of
your way to ask the user stupid questions. No more Are you sure you're
sure you're sure that you want to install the MANDATORY modules
[y])
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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. The other
things are worth considering (the best code is code you didn't have to
write), but if you don't like the existing stuff and you can't fix it,
write your own. You don't need to be accountable to anyone but
yourself.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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* On Sat, May 02 2009, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
* Jonathan Rockway j...@jrock.us [2009-05-01 19:15]:
People will find your module, even if the name doesn't make
sense. (Examples: Moose, Catalyst.)
Yeah, if there are thousands of other programmers using a module,
then its name can be pretty
. They are the reason to use Perl.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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the encryption
out of the range of governments, not just some punk that hacked your
server.)
Protecting your users passwords like this requires no additional code,
so I don't see why you wouldn't do it.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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this will work, though, and
would be interested to see if anyone has some insight here.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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* On Thu, Jul 02 2009, Dana Hudes wrote:
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
You know, there is a header for this sort of thing.
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, they can probably
install anything it depends on.
If not, they can send me a patch to split out the optional feature into
a new distribution. But this has never been necessary.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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* On Wed, Aug 19 2009, sawyer x wrote:
What was the HOOO incident, if I may ask?
Among other things, this:
http://www.mail-archive.com/cpan-test...@perl.org/msg448605.html
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Jonathan Rockway
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* On Sat, Oct 17 2009, O. STeffen BEYer wrote:
In the meantime I found out when this META_MERGE tag works and when not:
When I run a tool from the terminal which calls make dist,
everything works fine. When I run the same tool from within a
cron-job, with stdout and stderr redirected (to a
* On Fri, Nov 06 2009, Ryan Voots wrote:
On Friday 06 November 2009 14:09:47 brian d foy wrote:
Is this something that would be useful outside of GitHub? Are you
screen scraping or doing something special with git?
I think a name might be Github::Fork::Parent, if this is only for
Github.
* On Wed, Nov 18 2009, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
* David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-11-18 16:05]:
So creating/destroying Perl objects -- even just for things
like argument passing on the stack -- is part of the cost of
the flexibility of Perl. When that becomes a bottleneck in
a tight
* On Mon, Nov 23 2009, Rene Schickbauer wrote:
Yeah, i looked at many web frameworks, they are either non-perl or
have very strict security. Strict security is nice to have, but for
in-house intranet projects it sort of gets in the way if you have to
quick-hack a solution very fast... so i
difficult, but Catalyst does fairly well here.
It's not much different from Perl5 itself, actually...)
Anyway, the community solution may not always be perfect... but it is a
good stand in until you have the 10 spare years to rewrite it correctly.
Regards,
Jonathan Rockway
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* On Mon, Dec 07 2009, Jonathan Swartz wrote:
On Dec 3, 2009, at 1:42 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
Catalyst is the standard Perl web framework [1], and is neither non-
perl nor
has very strict security. It also runs on Windows (Strawberry or
ActiveState), and does not require Apache
, but it is
also no IT nightmare.
Please get the facts straight before spreading FUD. Your argument would
be more persuasive if it was true.
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Jonathan Rockway
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that I made the right choice, but I
am just as irrational as anyone else.)
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Jonathan Rockway
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* On Thu, Dec 10 2009, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:56:58PM -0600, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
I remember a few years ago, as a newbie with only CGI.pm and mod_perl
experience, discovering the Catalyst website. I thought I liked what I
saw, and decided to play
of books has
nothing to do with the suitability of a technology for a particular
purpose. But if you are trying to learn some technology, having a book
or two can greatly accelerate the process.
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Jonathan Rockway
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. Then the consumer can easily
choose how to use it.
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Jonathan Rockway
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zlib, and this is a cargo-cult bug. But I
haven't tested this yet. (I will soon.)
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Jonathan Rockway
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