Daniel Taupin wrote:
...
specification to result in quarter notes starting, not on each beat, but
on each "tip" (or "top"), so that (perhaps?) quarter-note=60 would
mean... 60 quarter notes in TWO minutes.
Jed Wentz is an expatriate American baroque flutist (fabulous!) who lives
in
Van Ryckeghem Andre wrote:
Who is willing to help me?
and Christian Mondrup wrote
The problem is a conflict of beam-ID's in the generated MusiXTeX code.
Hence the problem can be solved by forcing a change of beam ID. One way
to do that is to split the beaming groups among separate voices.
Alexander V. Voinov [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
I've come across a real example, which contains an accidental in
parenthesis (don't know [the English for] its musical name).
cautionary accidental
I found a hack, which temporarily
turns a (half) note to a zbreve,
!? how did \zbreve
Werner Icking [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
The PMX equivalent is "oen"/"oes"/"oef" as "ornament". This display the
cautionary accidental on top of the note or on top of the staff whatever
ist higher.
As I use the terms, there is a difference between cautionary accidentals and
editorial
All--
I would be willing to program up a complete alternate alignment system if I
knew how it should operate in all situations. The object types are
word-group (wg), hairpin-start (h1), and hairpin-stop (h2). The only
possible combinations are wg, h1, h2, wg+h1, h2+wg, h2+h1, and h2+wg+h1.
For
I just sent Werner a beta version of upgrade 2.24. It has these new
goodies:
1. MIDI-only (non-printing) accidentals
2. Dynamics: letter-groups and limited hairpins.
3. Extended rhythmic shortcut syntax: "." and "," now can be used even if
the first member has a separate-symbol-modifier such
In a private email, Werner suggested "setting" such a marker within PMX at
the start, "measuring" the distance to the end, and then inserting the
hairpin starting at the end point:
\zcharnote{[level]}{\kern-[distance]\hairpin{[distance]}\kern[distance]} .
I'll be looking at that possibility over
Can't say much about hairpins except that I looked into implementing them at
one time and got completely stuck due to some limitations of MusiXTeX
itself. I can't recall the exact details but I think it was impossible to
specify the symbol terms of its starting and ending positions; instead it
Rainer Dunker wrote:
...I'd therefore suggest that M-Tx delay
the \staffbotmarg change to the system break by means of \atnextline.
There is a potential difficulty with this approach. PMX generates an
\atnextline command in some limited circumstances related to centered
headers. My
In the PMX command e.g. "K-3+1" the "-3" is the transposition interval and
the second number is the new key. And, just exactly like it says, you can't
transpose after the piece has started. If you want the new key to be G you
enter "K+0+1". Either Barry or M-Tx should RTFM.
--Don Simons
To make transposition work correctly in PMX, you must
1. enter the transposition command (e.g., K+2+4, which Silas did OK)
2. enter "Ar" (which Silas apparently did not do)
3. use the relative acidental convention when coding accidentals (which in
the case of the Eb, Silas actually *did* do
When you use an in-line command like \zcharnote or any other TeX command
that requires a note level, you must be careful about which octave you are
in. If you are never going to transpose the piece, or if you want the level
to be independent of any transposition, then you can use a number to
Bernhard Lang wrote
How can I get a \zbreve? A pmx note word with length 9 gives a twofold
spaced whole, not a breve. And adding a dot to this seems to mess up
pmx's length counting in some cases.
First, let's check terminology. PMX regards a breve as a square note with
duration twice as long
There is no automatic way to do what you want. If no one else posts the
necessary in-line TeX before end-of-business today (in California, 7 hours
from now), I'll work it out for you sometime after that.
--Don Simons
-Original Message-
From: Straeten Hans-Martin [SMTP:[EMAIL
PMX is a text-based preprocessor for MusiXTeX that will allow you to typeset
scores and parts with far less effort than by using MusiXTeX alone.
All files necessary for running the DOS version in a WIN95 DOS window are
contained in
http://www.gmd.de/Misc/Music/musixtex/software/pmx/pmx220.zip.
I cannot speak for M-Tx (which you would need to use for lyrics), but in PMX
it is *very* easy to put two instruments on one staff (actually the PMX
terminology is "two lines of music" on one staff). And if later you want to
change them to separate staves, that would also be very easy, simply
Don't know. But if you are really asking about pml files, that is the
filename extension for the log files that are generated every time you run
PMX. They contain any error messages or warnings issued by PMX. There is
no need to save them for any reason at all.
--Don Simons
-Original
Silas Brown wrote
My program in its present form cannot do this unless there's some way
of getting M-Tx to accept | signs at the start of lines without
complaining about an empty bar.
A preprocessor (Silas' program) for a preprocessor (M-Tx) for a preprocessor
(PMX) !!! Boggles the mind.
Silas Brown wrote
Can there be any way to say "take as much space as you want"? I mean,
without stretching things out rediculously. Or maybe some sort of
heuristic for suggesting the number of systems to PMX?
The closest thing to that in PMX is the ability to specify the average
number of
If I understand this right, CM is suggesting a feature that acts exactly the
same way transposition does currently in PMX, except it should be selectable
by instrument, and of course allow different transpositions for different
instruments. I have thought numerous times about doing this,
Dirk Laurie recently emailed me about inability to use mtrnuml=1 to
represent a whole note time unit, (normally printed as "1" in denominator).
I also discovered an email from him dated 10/98 on the same subject . I
thought we had discussed it further at that time but couldn't find any more
in
Silas Brown wrote
PMX enters an infinite loop after the second pass.
...
---
\immediate\write10{M-Tx 0.52 (Music from TeXt) 29 October 1998}
\let\:=\relax\input musixtex\:\sepbarrules\input pmx
---
3 3 4 4 0 6 0.0 0 1 1 20 0
...
You tried to cram the whole piece into a single system. I
You could make the same statement about dozens of other music typesetting
tasks, starting with providing adequate horizontal space for accidentals.
PMX's role in life is to simplify that which is complicated in MusiXTeX.
Unlike TeX, PMX has no practical limit on number of variables or on the
Rainer adS wrote
I use Alto, soprano, ... clefs. Today these are replaced by the treble
("G") clef notated
an octave higher then the music sounds. Is there any way to print music
that was entered
for those obsolete clefs with the modern one?
There must be more than one set of meanings
Rainer adS wrote
a PMX question:
When the meter changes at the end of a line the
new meter is printed at the end of this
line and at the beginning of the next line.
That is the intended result, and that is what I just got with a test file.
What am I doing wrong??
Nothing I can see. Did
Christof Biebricher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, nitadori wrote:
I still have some questions about PMX and MusiXTeX.
When I typeset a piece for keyboard which has 2/4 meter, I need to raise
\PAuse (How do you call this rest symbol in English? Two whole rest?).
I
Howard, it sounds like you did not set up the original score using relative
accidentals. You must (a) include the command "Ar" near the start of the
pmx source file, and (b) in the key of D for example, enter "ff" or "cf"
whenever you want an f-natural or c-natural. Remember, when using
This doesn't really answer your question, but if you just want something
quick and dirty to read from, the FREEWARE program MidiNotate does a
creditable job of making a music score from a MIDI file. It even lets you
extract parts. But you cannot edit the score in any meaningful way. If you
want
If I remember correctly, the only problem PMX has with midbar repeats (and
doublebars) is that they will not be copied properly into parts.
--Don Simons
-Original Message-
From: Werner Icking [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 2:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
A little RTFM'ing is definitely in order here.
I cannot speak for M-Tx, but in PMX, meter changes require 4 numbers. There
are two permissible syntaxes, one with slashes (which is newer and more
general), e.g. m3403 or m3/4/3/4 . The first 2 numbers are the "logical"
meter numerator and
It was a slow weekend so I ran ftnchek on PMX. Amid the 1000 lines of
output I did find the explanations for the strange behaviour with fermatas
and moved-dots in g77-compiled versions: I had neglected to initialize two
particular logical variables. Once fixed, the .tex from the g77-compiled
Christian Schrader wrote
First I have to write the voice for the bass notes and then the
voice of the melody because of the direction of the stems.
Is it possible to change this order?
PMX has always used MusiXTeX's voice numbering convention of bottom-to-top.
You could enter the upper line of
Can't speak for M-Tx, but PMX does not have any off-the-shelf method to do
barless music. For example, line breaks must come between bars. Whatever
you do in PMX, there will have to be an underlying pattern of meters and
bars. You could "fake it out" by setting the number of systems equal to
Christoph Kukulies wrote
Besides I'd be curious what the problem is. f2c is so mature
that it is unlikely that there is a 'problem' with f2c.
It's more likely there is a problem with the fortran code
not being 100% f77 standard or something.
Thanks to Christoph and others who responded. When
block. They are not used in the subroutine mentioned, but they are used
elsewhere.
--Don
-Original Message-
From: Reinhard Katzmann [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:53 PM
To: MuTeX Mailing List
Cc: Simons, Don
Subject: Re: about g77
Hi Don
I have just made available a trial version of PMX (2.17) that can output a
MIDI file. You can get it at the following URL:
ftp://ftp.gmd.de/music/musixtex/software/pmx/pmxtest.zip
This new capability enables you to listen to any legal pmx file. Please read
the readme file for instructions about
:laird Pruiksma wrote
To keep pmx from calculating 'bad' values for staff spacing on alternate
pages, add the inline tex beginning \\let near the beginning of the file
as
Giovanni Gabrieli
%Ar K+3-1
\\let\interstaffsav\interstaff\def\interstaff#1{}\interstaffsav{8}\
rp rp rp g43 g8 g g2 /
rp rp
Christian Mondrup wrote
David Bobroff wrote:
One mistake did not make its presence known until I had
run scor2prt. At that point one of the parts showed an extraneous small
flat sign near a note head. I tracked it down and it was being caused by
a
dash (-) where there should not have been
Several list members have recently been engaged in a lively private
discussion about MIDI output from PMX. This all began when I sent this
small group a beta version of PMX with a rudimentary MIDI output capability.
I do not really want to make that version "public" at this time, because it
has
I wrote
I would be more than happy to entertain specific proposals for the form,
content, and phasing of data to be passed from PMX to the MIDI generator.
But to be totally honest, the more I think about it, the more it seems to
me
that the best interface may simply be the PMX input file itself.
A while back, Reinhard Katzmann wrote
...
The other problem I had was with the dot commands, with quarter
and half notes, a bd44 as84 or b44.as4 results in this:
\xbar
\pnotes{3.46}\qlm{'b}b\en%
\pnotes{2.00}\bigsh{'a}\cu a\ibl1c0\qb1b\qb1c\qb1b\tbl1\qb1c\en%
...
We have been privately in
Reinhard Katzmann wrote
I have some troubles with pmx. The new version typesets
whole rests (rp and r0 the same, but not rop or rm*!) like this:
\xbar
\pnotes{5.66}\en%
\def\atnextbar{\znotes\centerbar{\pausc\fermataup7}\en}%
Thanks for the bug report. There was indeed a problem with "rop",
Werner Icking discovered a very well-hidden bug in scor2prt: If an input
line in the parent file started with n blanks and extended beyond 129-n, it
would not be handled properly when making parts. I've corrected the files
in the main zip file. But if you've already installed version 2.1, then
A new version of PMX has just become available at
http://www.gmd.de/Misc/Music/ .
PMX is a preprocessor for MusiXTeX that produces nearly professional-looking
scores and parts with far less effort than would be required using MusiXTeX
alone.
All files necessary for running the DOS version in
Andre wrote
Now i have to put an open volta on the first mesure of the section with 3
staffs.
I tried everything in pmx (i think) and in musixtex, but i do not get it
done.
You're in luck: I had to do this myself in a recent score. There is no way
to do it with pmx commands alone. The method I
Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote
Sorry to bother you again, but i think i suffer perhaps from a
milleniumproblem
On my computer the next lines do not compile
...
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig,
3344 0 6 0 -3
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
1
can anybody give me an idea how the volta-syntax in pmx looks like?
I have
Rl ... /
g2 d4 Rr /% first ending
g2 r4 /% --- second ending
Rl ... /
V1
g2 d4 /
Rr Vb2
g2 r4 /
Vx ...
"V1" starts the first volta and inserts text "1"
"Vb2" ends the first volta with a box and
I've had to do this myself several times. The difficulty is that PMX must
know the maximum number of instruments and their names at the very
beginning. The trick is to start the file with a dummy page that you will
later throw away. Then start the second page of the score (the first real
page)
Evita wrote
Would somebody please be kind enough to give me an example of
the syntax of the \Ibu semi-automatic beam macros?
I would have to RTFM to answer that, and I don't have it handy. But now
that you have MusiXTeX up and running, why not use PMX? Then you would not
need to clutter your
Alasdair McAndrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
Using PMX
2.0.0, I can insert double bar lines in the middle of a bar; this
keeps the bar numbers correct.
...
my best attempts to insert some spaces (so
that the segno doesn't overprint on the notes or on the double bar
lines) only result in
Joel Hunsberger wrote
would it help (restore
the once manifest behavior) to change the test so as to control the
precision of the result? Such as
if (abs(slope2) - abs(slope1) + precision_limit ) .lt. 0 ) slope=slope2
That will be part of the solution, but not the hard part. It would
Alexander Jolk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
Hi, everybody
Hi yourself.
1. How do I get a \caesura right at the end of a bar? Kludging around
with `\atnextbar' works, but isn't beautiful. (As in
a9- | \atnextbar{\caesura}\ d0.d ...)
If it ain't broke...
2. In a 4/2 measure, a whole bar
Luigi Cataldi wrote
1)If I use P command in PMX code (e.g. P2) and I process it
with PMX200, when I start TEX (I use MiKTeX 1.11b) it shows an
undefined control sequence error message for the PMX200 translation
of P command
\def\atnextline{\toppageno20{}}%
...What is my mistake?
\toppageno
Werner wrote
Maurizio Codogno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I was wondering if it is possible in M-Tx to switch system.
As far as I know M-Tx does not support that.
Let me explain: there is a piece with three different sections.
The first section is for soprano solo (thus, one staff and one
Thanks to everyone who posted guidance on book-making. I have gotten the
last one of Werner's methods (using dviselec, dviconca, dvidvi) to work. I
tried out most of the other suggestions too, but couldn't get any of them to
go from start to finish. I'm using DOS under WINDOWS95. I suspect
No, I don't mean "upsetting your daily routine." This term also refers to
the process of re-ordering pages for the the purpose of producing a book.
Specifically, I'm trying to figure out how to produce a music book using
2-sided, 11x17-inch sheets. I would like to start with an ordinary
Howard Gilbert asked about transposing one line in a score.
Down below I'll append an example of how I would do this. There are some
caveats:
1. Some special handling would be needed if you wanted to use scor2prt to
make separate parts.
2. The horizontal spacing could get messed up if the
Henrique wrote
Does it take as much time to learn PMX as it takes
to learn MusiXTeX ?
No.
Would I get advantages ?
It takes less time to learn :-)
The fact that it is easier to learn is because (a) the input language is
more straightforward (b) information is entered in a more voicewise way,
When typesetting a continuo realization (a right-hand part for a keyboard
player based on the figured bass) it is traditional to use a smaller staff
and smaller print, to indicate that these notes were not written by the
composer. However it is still desirable to group the bass line and the
Andre wrote
I downloaded pmx200, unzipped it, renamed pmxa to pmxab, ...
??? I don't understand why you would have to rename any files. And there
should not be any files named pmxa.* in pmx200.zip.
How can i move an arpeggio to the left in pmx
(ie for making room for a natural)?
example:
g4
Version 2.0 of PMX is now available for downloading from
www.gmd.de/Misc/Music/
PMX is a preprocessor for MusiXTeX that produces nearly professional-looking
scores and parts with far less effort than would be required using MusiXTeX
alone.
All files necessary for running the DOS version in a
I wrote
Luigi wrote
2) The violin part has only one voice, bat in 'Larghetto' (here in the
fragment) at bar 3 and 4 there is a second voice (see PMX file, bars 3
and
4, violin 2). I've add this voice in PMX file for the moment.
Is there a way to put the two bar of this second voice in MTX
Luigi Cataldi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
Is there a way to reduce voices number (that is, staves for system) from 5
to 4 in the second movement and to come back to 5 in third movement? I've
try to use this PMX command:
%%L4P2Mi.1r+n41245batt
But dosen't work. Where is my error?
You didn't
Zoran Ovcin wrote
...My problem of excersises in transposition
should be solved by PMX. But then it should have capability of
transposing a piece of a score, not the whole score.
This is a valid request. Unfortunately, it is not a feature that I can ever
imagine using myself. As others know
{Barry Gold}
One other problem I noted: I tried using Vx to get an open end on
the volta, and I still got a box end. It doesn't matter in this song,
but I would like to be able to control them in some other songs.
[Werner Icking]
As far as I can see "Vx" doesn't work at the end of a piece.
Johan Tufvesson wrote
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Stefan Svensson wrote:
Third, there's a bug in PMX. When I create a volta with a whole rest
in
the first voice (i e the lowest voice), the volta and it's number is
misplaced, several points too low, interferring with the note system.
This
might,
Howard Gilbert wrote
I then tried coding a piece myself doing 4 bars at a time and then
pmx-ing
and tex-ing to see the result as I went along. The first 8 bars gave no
problem, but when I went further, pmxa did not appear to recognise
anything after bar 8.
The good news is that the PMX source
Thanks to Angelo for the description of this rare life form. Now as to his
original question:
In PMX, you can place any text you want as a figure by using the PMX macro
\Figu#1#2 . You would insert it into the .pmx file with in-line TeX. The
first argument is the depth from the "figure's
In a message that must have crossed my last posting in "transitus", Eckart
Begemann wrote
You would have to code *before* the transitu irregulare
(Ablativus locativus, if I am not mistaken ... :-)
"\Figu{4}{/}\ "
or
"\Figu{4}{$\circ$} "
(Leave out the quotation marks '"', of course.)
"Mogens Lemvig Hansen" wrote
Prompted by my question about conditional double posting of irregular
meters, Werner expressed his bewilderment as why I do not use PMX, so
I thought about it, and here is what I came up with:
PMX is yet another piece of software to get, make work, and learn how
"Mogens Lemvig Hansen" wrote
I want musixtex/musixflx to decide where the line breaks go, so that
I can change the width of the page later and not run into trouble.
...
However, this [proposed coding] does not work (gives overfull lines)
because posting the meter change takes horizontal space
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