Re: Regard To-Envelope for alternates?

ed a bit how mutt_find_user_in_envelope [1] works. But as far as I see, there is no easy way to make it also look into further headers, because the ENVELOPE struct [2] does not provide those. 1: https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/-/blob/master/alias.c#L692 2: https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/-/blob/master/mutt.h#L739 A

Re: Regard To-Envelope for alternates?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:42:17PM +, Tim Chase wrote: > > While I wish I had a satisfactory answer, this is mostly to chime > in that I too wish that reverse_name would consult the > Envelope-To/Delivered-To. This includes this mutt list, where I > have to manually change

Re: Regard To-Envelope for alternates?

From address when > replying (setting realname). > > Would it be feasible to also let the alternates scan the mail headers > and find the header 'To-Envelope'? While I wish I had a satisfactory answer, this is mostly to chime in that I too wish that reverse_name would consult t

Re: Regard Envelope-to: for alternates?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 02:28:43PM +0200, Bastian wrote: > On 12Sep22 14:24+0200, Bastian wrote: > > Would it be feasible to also let the alternates scan the mail headers > > and find the header 'To-Envelope'? > > Sorry, the header is labled Envelope-to: I agree having

Re: Regard Envelope-to: for alternates?

On 12Sep22 14:24+0200, Bastian wrote: > Would it be feasible to also let the alternates scan the mail headers > and find the header 'To-Envelope'? Sorry, the header is labled Envelope-to: -- Bastian

Regard To-Envelope for alternates?

and find the header 'To-Envelope'? For me, this seems to always contain the correct address to which the mail was delivered to me. Well, I do not know where this header comes from; could be that my exim sets these during delivery to maildir. Cheers, -- Bastian

Re: envelope sender address setting

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, rand pie wrote: > How to set the sendmail binary sender address > base on different email addresses with mutt? *-hook might work, e.g., something like: folder-hook . "set sendmail=\"/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -oem -fUSER@B.C\"" send-hook ietf-smtp "set

envelope sender address setting

Hello list. How to set the sendmail binary sender address base on different email addresses with mutt?

Re: Pulling the From address using Envelope-To:

On 26Feb2016 15:17, Cameron Simpson wrote: Failing that, you can fairly easily write scripts which emit mutt directives based on header contents. I have a script "mhdrs" which can emit message headers as shell settings, which you can then source in a shell script file, which

Re: Pulling the From address using Envelope-To:

On 25Feb2016 20:50, Tim Chase <m...@tim.thechases.com> wrote: On 2016-02-25 21:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > Is there some setting I've missed, or some way around this to have > mutt extract my From: address using the Envelope-To: header? send-hook 'my_hdr From: Your Addr <your

Re: Pulling the From address using Envelope-To:

* Tim Chase <m...@tim.thechases.com> [02-25-16 21:59]: > On 2016-02-25 21:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > Is there some setting I've missed, or some way around this to have > > > mutt extract my From: address using the Envelope-To: header? > > > > send-h

Re: Pulling the From address using Envelope-To:

I'm in the To: field (and > possibly the CC field), it correctly sets the From: based on the > corresponding recipient in the message to which I'm replying. > > However, for certain mailing-lists, "my" address only appears in the > Envelope-To: header of the message source. When I

Pulling the From address using Envelope-To:

e to which I'm replying. However, for certain mailing-lists, "my" address only appears in the Envelope-To: header of the message source. When I attempt to use the above settings, it defaults to my usual From address, which suggests it's not trying to compare the Envelope-To: headers again

Re: prevent gmail from rewriting from envelope

Dear Nicolas, Notice I don't set use_envelope_from. *grummel* still doesn't work. I was just thinking: do have some official dns-name on your mutt box? I'm behind a router in a private network and thought that this might be the problem; somehow. Thank you Ben

Re: prevent gmail from rewriting from envelope

In mutt I set my_hdr From: m...@email and in gmail I remove the envelope rewriting (somewhere in the options). thank you for your answer. Could you please be a bit more precise about the 'somewhere in the options'? I haven't found anything. It works with thunderbird, though

Re: prevent gmail from rewriting from envelope

flow. In mutt I set my_hdr From: m...@email and in gmail I remove the envelope rewriting (somewhere in the options). thank you for your answer. Could you please be a bit more precise about the 'somewhere in the options'? I haven't found anything. It works with thunderbird, though

Re: prevent gmail from rewriting from envelope

remove the envelope rewriting (somewhere in the options). thank you for your answer. Could you please be a bit more precise about the 'somewhere in the options'? I haven't found anything. It works with thunderbird, though. @ Nathaniel Yes, since set use_envelope_from=no is default, I have tried both

Re: prevent gmail from rewriting from envelope

. In mutt I set my_hdr From: m...@email and in gmail I remove the envelope rewriting (somewhere in the options). thank you for your answer. Could you please be a bit more precise about the 'somewhere in the options'? I haven't found anything. It works with thunderbird, though. - settings

prevent gmail from rewriting from envelope

Dear Mutt-guru's, I recently needed to create a gmail account 'username' and now I try to use its smtp server as relay for my other mail addresses. The 'from: otheru...@yahoo.de' remains by using its webmail and thunderbird. However, it doesn't with mutt. If I send the mail with mutt the

Re: prevent gmail from rewriting from envelope

flow. In mutt I set my_hdr From: m...@email and in gmail I remove the envelope rewriting (somewhere in the options). -- Nicolas Sebrecht

envelope-to and scoring

I'm currently trying to set up a scoring policy for mail sent to u...@example.com. The problem is, I only get mass-mailings to this adress, with u...@example.com usually residing in the BCC. But the header contains envelope-to: u...@example.com, I just don't get how to access this information. I

Re: envelope-to and scoring

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 02:35:16PM +0100, ssiza...@gmail.com wrote: I'm currently trying to set up a scoring policy for mail sent to u...@example.com. The problem is, I only get mass-mailings to this adress, with u...@example.com usually residing in the BCC. But the header contains envelope

Re: envelope-to and scoring

...@example.com usually residing in the BCC. But the header contains envelope-to: u...@example.com, I just don't get how to access this information. I tried ~L ~t ~C and whatnot. ~h '^Envelope-to: u...@example.com' Adjustments may be necessary if your mailer adds something other than a bare email

Re: envelope-to and scoring

* ssiza...@gmail.com ssiza...@gmail.com [20090304 17:02]: [snip] ~h '^Envelope-to: u...@example.com' works when I'm limiting messages once inside the folder, but score '~h '^Envelope-to: u...@example.com'' 41 in my .muttrc doesn't. Mutt complains about errors. I've tried replacing

Re: envelope-to and scoring

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, March 4 at 05:01 PM, quoth ssiza...@gmail.com: ~h '^Envelope-to: u...@example.com' works when I'm limiting messages once inside the folder, but score '~h '^Envelope-to: u...@example.com'' 41 in my .muttrc doesn't. Obviously

Re: envelope-to and scoring

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 17:18, Kyle Wheeler kyle-m...@memoryhole.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, March  4 at 05:01 PM, quoth ssiza...@gmail.com: ~h '^Envelope-to: u...@example.com' works when I'm limiting messages once inside the folder, but score '~h

Re: envelope-to and scoring

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, March 4 at 05:33 PM, quoth ssiza...@gmail.com: Well it would make sense if any of your examples worked, but unfortunately they don't. I've tried mixing and ' myself, except for the escaping-quotes-trick. That's new, but gives me

Re: envelope-to and scoring

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 18:18, Kyle Wheeler kyle-m...@memoryhole.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, March  4 at 05:33 PM, quoth ssiza...@gmail.com: Well it would make sense if any of your examples worked, but unfortunately they don't. I've tried mixing

Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at the time of message compose* to an address different from the message's From: address? How is it done? For starters, I'd probably want to: unset envelope_from and maybe comment-out this in my .muttrc: my_hdr From: Mel [EMAIL

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

* Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-03 08:28]: Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at the time of message compose* to an address different from the message's From: address? you can only set or unset the envelope_from variable - but not set what goes into the header. this is MTA

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

* Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-03 04:28 -0400]: Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at the time of message compose* to an address different from the message's From: address? Yes, of course! How is it done? For starters, I'd probably want to: unset envelope_from then change

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

On Sat 08/03/02 at 11:50 AM +0200, Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-03 08:28]: Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at the time of message compose* to an address different from the message's From: address? you can

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

of all the envelope is no header. It is createted by the MTA. No MUA has controll over it. Second you can controll the envelope with sendmails -f option which can easily be set in mutt. HTH, Michael -- Running Windows on a Pentium is like having a brand new Porsche but only be able to drive

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

* Melvin Q Watchpocket [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-03 08:20 -0400]: On Sat 08/03/02 at 12:50 PM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-03 04:28 -0400]: Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at the time of message compose

Set envelope: realy shouldn't be touched?

mutt-users from themselves. I mean, why not have the envelope be settable as one of the headers visible with edit_headers set? Is there *any* Mail User Agent that allows to do this from within the MUA itself, without having to go into Sendmail to do it (even if from the command-line

Re: Set envelope: realy shouldn't be touched?

want to save mutt-users from themselves. exactly! some mutt user should be using pine or outlook. then they would not even *bother* about such problems. I mean, why not have the envelope be settable as one of the headers visible with edit_headers set? users can and *will8 be confused, ask

Re: Set envelope: realy shouldn't be touched?

Melvin Q Watchpocket ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: I mean, why not have the envelope be settable as one of the headers visible with edit_headers set? Why should it? You are able to tweak the envelope by setting mutt's $sendmail variable. What else do you want? This would be a feature nobody

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

At 11:50 AM +0200 2002/08/03, Sven Guckes wrote: you can only set or unset the envelope_from variable - but not set what goes into the header. this is MTA stuff. The MTA doesn't touch the headers (with the exception of adding suitable Received: headers). So far as the MTA is

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

of adding suitable Received: headers). So far as the MTA is concerned, headers are part of the message body. But if you use the MTA (sendmail in this case, and in many cases) to create an envelope header that's gonna be different from a message's From: header, (by doing 'sendmail -f

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

* Melvin Q Watchpocket [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-03 18:45 -0400]: On Sat 08/03/02 at 09:30 PM +0200, But if you use the MTA (sendmail in this case, and in many cases) to create an envelope header that's gonna be different from a message's From: header, (by doing 'sendmail -f

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

At 6:45 PM -0400 2002/08/03, Melvin Q Watchpocket wrote: But if you use the MTA (sendmail in this case, and in many cases) to create an envelope header that's gonna be different from a message's From: header, (by doing 'sendmail -f'), then it (the MTA) has to at least touch the envelope

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 06:45:06PM -0400, Melvin Q Watchpocket wrote: But if you use the MTA (sendmail in this case, and in many cases) to create an envelope header that's gonna be different from a message's From: header, (by doing 'sendmail -f'), then it (the MTA) has to at least touch

Re: setting envelope-from

how can I set the envelope-from independently from From: ? ~~/.muttrc: folder-hook .*-List set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi -oem: unknown variable which I can't make sense of. Can anyone enlighten me? But the first folder-hooks work? Why don't you set

Re: setting envelope-from

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 10:04:59AM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: how can I set the envelope-from independently from From: ? ~~/.muttrc: folder-hook .*-List set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi -oem: unknown variable which I can't make sense of. Can anyone

Re: setting envelope-from

how can I set the envelope-from independently from From: ? As is, mutt AFAIK envelope_from does nothing but invokes sendmail with parameter -f From:-Header Correct By setting sendmail directly you can call it with the -f paramater set freely, i.e. to your real email adress

Re: setting envelope-from

On 2002-04-19 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: how can I set the envelope-from independently from From: ? As is, mutt AFAIK envelope_from does nothing but invokes sendmail with parameter -f From:-Header Correct By setting sendmail directly you can call it with the -f paramater set freely

setting envelope-from

Hi all, how can I set the envelope-from independently from From: ? As is, mutt copies From: into envelope-from. I want to use a mangled From: as spam protection, but list servers need to see a correct envelope-from (unless it's lists like this, which seems to accept any 'ol stuff)? Of course

Re: setting envelope-from

On 2002-04-18 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Hi all, how can I set the envelope-from independently from From: ? As is, mutt copies From: into envelope-from. I want to use a mangled From: as spam protection, but list servers need to see a correct envelope-from (unless it's lists like this, which

envelope ?

Hi, Some people mentioned that I should use the envelope_from setting to help with mail delivery. It worked. What is the envelope_from setting and how is it different from the From: field? Does anyone know where I can learn how these function? Thanks, Todd = Todd Kokoszka 25, rue Richard

Re: envelope ?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:01:29AM -0500, Todd Kokoszka wrote: What is the envelope_from setting and how is it different from the From: field? Does anyone know where I can learn how these function? It is documented in the manual (section 6.3.43 in the manual for Mutt 1.3.25). -- Maciej

Re: envelope ?

an envelope is or does and how that's different from a From: field. The only thing I know is that when I include envelope_from, more of mail gets to where I want it to. I'm trying to figure out what an envelope is and why it exists. Then I can figure out what else I should know about mutt and mail

Re: envelope ?

the entry for envelope_from, but that doesn't tell me what an envelope is or does and how that's different from a From: field. The only thing I know is that when I include envelope_from, more of mail gets to where I want it to. I'm trying to figure out what an envelope is and why it exists. Then I can

Re: envelope ?

* Todd Kokoszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the entry for envelope_from, but that doesn't tell me what an envelope is or does and how that's different from a From: field. The only thing I know is that when I include envelope_from, more of mail gets to where I want it to. I'm trying

Re: envelope ?

There is a From: field in the email message and there is a from field on the envelope wrapping the message. They are two different things. When mutt passes off the message to your Mail Transport Agent, e.g. Sendmail, Sendmail prepends certain information to it: specifically the from field, date

setting envelope sender with qmail (was: failure notice)

Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: Someone mentioned an envelope header string that can be defined but I think I lost that message... Can someone re-post that info? I seem to have lost that message... I guess you mean the message I posted yesterday. Here's a better

Re: setting envelope from how?

El día 02/May/2000, Claus Assmann escribía: Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I fiddled with sendmail.cf and filled in the correct masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time. Yeah, if you "fiddled with sendmail.cf"... It requires two lines in your .mc file:

Re: setting envelope from how?

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:28:26AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I already tried to set hostname = "innominate.de" but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when talking to my loca

Re: setting envelope from how?

On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 02:20:44AM +0200, cFischer wrote: tweaked the "correct" config files. Anyway, right now I'm just too lazy to throw away sendmail :) that is, i tried smail. easy to configure and much leaner than sendmail. IMHO you should forget sendmail and use qmail. * Works *VERY

MTA comparisons (was Re: setting envelope from how?)

2000-05-03-10:50:35 cFischer: On Wed 03.0500-08:18, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: You didn't try postfix. no. did you? is it big 'n nasty? Nope. Postfix is not big or nasty. It is, by design: simple to install, configure, and maintain; fast; secure; and as compatible with sendmail as needed to

Mailbox read only? was Re: setting envelope from how?

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 12:37:25PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: my_hdr From: Lutz Jaenicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is not the envelope from... But it gets derived from that. Anyway, the reason why that didn't work was because I set my_hdr From: from within a send-hook only... Uh

Re: setting envelope from how?

On 2000-05-02 12:37:25 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I fiddled with sendmail.cf and filled in the correct masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time. Hey, when fiddling with the sendmail.cf is an option, switching to your favorite MTA may be

Re: setting envelope from how?

On 2000-05-02 11:28:26 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: set hostname = "innominate.de" but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when talking to my local sendmail? envelope_from Type: boolean Default: no When set, mut

Re: setting envelope from how?

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:28:26AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I already tried to set hostname = "innominate.de" but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when talking to my local sendmail

Re: setting envelope from how?

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:28:26AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I already tried to set hostname = "innominate.de" but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when talking to my local sendm

setting envelope from how?

My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I already tried to set hostname = "innominate.de" but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when talking to my local sendmail? Transcript of session follows. Out: 220 stahlw06.stahl.bau.tu-b

From envelope date on postponed message

, at time T2 The copy of the message saved to file has the timestamp in the "From " mailbox envelope header (not the "From:" RFC 822 header) set to T1 and the "Date:" header set to T2. This can be a bit disconcerting if there is a significant interval between T1 and T

Re: Setting envelope-sender according to alternates

On 1999-12-10 10:28:07 +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: It would be fairly easy to bloat up mutt_invoke_sendmail (in sendlib.c) a bit - depending on a suitable option (say, set_envelope_from), mutt could just pass "-faddress" to sendmail. Note that at least sendmail and the sendmail emulation

Re: Setting envelope-sender according to alternates

On 1999-12-10 03:44:03 +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Sounds like something that could be done with a wrapper script, invoked instead of the real sendmail command to first parse the email, set the environment variable, and then call sendmail. It would be fairly easy to bloat up

Re: Setting envelope-sender according to alternates

be something better. Anyway, I'm not arguing for or against whether this should or shouldn't added, I'm quite happy to have a single address as my envelope sender for all my emails. :-) Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list mainta

Re: Setting envelope-sender according to alternates

recall exim did understand -f, but since its extended address support is broken somewhere else (or at the very least a RPITA to setup), I changed to Postfix a while ago. I am not sure of the current state of exim. Regardless, -f is the documented way to set the envelope sender for mutt's method

Re: Setting envelope-sender according to alternates

I was trying to see if qmail's sendmail emulation script does, I think so, but wasn't able to confirm it in documentation. (Yes, I know, should be easy enough to test.) Yes, not only does qmail's sendmail emulation work just fine, you can actually set your sendmail variable to qmail-inject

Re: Setting envelope-sender according to alternates

Mike Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 09 Dec 1999: Would it be possible to arrange for the contents of the from: header in sent mail to be exported to the sendmail command, maybe as an environment variable? I'd like to have my envelope-sender mirror the address I use in my from: line

Re: Setting envelope-sender according to alternates

to have my envelope-sender mirror the address I use in my from: line, since I send email from multiple accounts. Sounds like something that could be done with a wrapper script, invoked instead of the real sendmail command to first parse the email, set the environment variable, and then call