[NTG-context] \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Jim
Hi, I was wondering if anyone here could help me with these three things: For a long time I have been using Wichura's TaBle macros (i.e., what one gets with \input table in plain TeX) and would like to use what appears to be ConTeXt's version of those (i.e., what one gets with \starttable

[NTG-context] Re: Suggestions and problems of the manuals

2024-01-25 Thread Gerion Entrup
Am Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2024, 13:44:51 CET schrieb Gerion Entrup: > Hi, > > I discovered the manuals in the context distribution. My general way to > built the manuals were these steps: > ``` > # execute one time > git clone https://github.com/contextgarden/context.git > cd

[NTG-context] Own command definition breaks with interaction: Use of \do_my_command doesn't match its definition

2024-01-25 Thread Gerion Entrup
Hi, I want to make a proper definition of a new command to be able to process it in Lua. I found something on StackOverflow [1] but that breaks in enumeration _and_ when interaction is enabled and I do not understand why? Can you give me some help here? I want to make commands like \foo{bla} and

[NTG-context] Re: Caching Metafun images and VIM Syntax highlighted code

2024-01-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 17:06: I am writing two books. One is on Rust programming and another is on geometry, so I have syntax highlighted code and in second has lost of diagrams. Perhaps Aditya Mahajan can tell me how can I cache code snippets. Invoking VIM will have

[NTG-context] Cron /var/www/aanhet.net/context/bin/cron/context-mirror

2024-01-24 Thread Cron Daemon
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[NTG-context] upload

2024-01-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I uploaded a new lmts: - important fix for empty page (pdf, recently introduced) - win32 installer fix - bsd installer fix Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Hamid,Idris
Hi Shiv, -- Original Message -- From "Shiv Shankar Dayal" mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>> To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 1/24/2024 9:44:09 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Yes.

[NTG-context] Re: Caching Metafun images and VIM Syntax highlighted code

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
Dear Hans, Aditya, Thanks for clarifying. In any case, I will process chapter-by-chapter, so runtime should be manageable. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:32 PM Hans Hagen wrote: > On 1/24/2024 5:50 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > > > >> Perhaps Aditya

[NTG-context] Re: Caching Metafun images and VIM Syntax highlighted code

2024-01-24 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/24/2024 5:50 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2024, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Perhaps Aditya Mahajan can tell me how can I cache code snippets. Invoking VIM will have heavy penalty on highlighting the code otherwise. Have you tried the vim module:

[NTG-context] Re: Caching Metafun images and VIM Syntax highlighted code

2024-01-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > Perhaps Aditya Mahajan can tell me how can I cache code snippets. Invoking > VIM will have heavy penalty on highlighting the code otherwise. Have you tried the vim module: https://github.com/adityam/filter/blob/dev/vim-README.md Caching is

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
Yes. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:08 PM luigi scarso wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 16:55, Shiv Shankar Dayal < > shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan >> TeX macros. >> >> > TeX primitives ? > > -- > luigi > >

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 16:55, Shiv Shankar Dayal < shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX > macros. > > TeX primitives ? -- luigi ___ If your

[NTG-context] Caching Metafun images and VIM Syntax highlighted code

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
I am writing two books. One is on Rust programming and another is on geometry, so I have syntax highlighted code and in second has lost of diagrams. Perhaps Aditya Mahajan can tell me how can I cache code snippets. Invoking VIM will have heavy penalty on highlighting the code otherwise. Other

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:52: Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX macros. As I already wrote you can use \parindent etc. in your document but unless you know what you're doing you should keep it to a minimum to avoid conflicts with

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX macros. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:20 PM Wolfgang Schuster < wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:37: > > For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:37: For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the question, can LuaMetaTeX/ConTeXt compile plain TeX files. If yes, how can I do that? You mix up two different things here. 1. Plain TeX is a collection of TeX macros like ConTeXt or

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the question, can LuaMetaTeX/ConTeXt compile plain TeX files. If yes, how can I do that? On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:02 PM Hans Hagen wrote: > On 1/24/2024 2:55 PM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > Can we use plain TeX commands

[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/24/2024 2:55 PM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Dear List, Can we use plain TeX commands which are available in LuaMetaTeX in an arbitrary manner or are there any restrictions? what do you mean with arbitrary plain tex commands

[NTG-context] Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
Dear List, Can we use plain TeX commands which are available in LuaMetaTeX in an arbitrary manner or are there any restrictions? -- Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal ___ If your question is of interest to others as well,

[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-24 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/24/2024 9:55 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote: Dear List, I am sorry, but once again me: I downloaded the last upload from Hans yesterday, I downloaded context-win64, and tried the test today . you're using windows 32 so you need to use the 32 mswin installer

[NTG-context] Re: OpenBSD install failed

2024-01-24 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/24/2024 2:00 AM, Damien Thiriet via ntg-context wrote: Dear Hans, can you test with OpenBSD|openbsd) case "$CPU" in i*86) PLATFORM="openbsd" ;; amd64) PLATFORM="openbsd$-amd64" ;; *)

[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 2:47 PM Ursula Hermann wrote: > Yes, > > I always go to: > > > > pragma-ade.nl/install.htm > > > > I have Windows 10. > Dear Ursula, I just downloaded and compiled the same file on Windows 11 64-bit and it works. I got the PDF output. I am not sure why it is not working

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-24 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Thomas, Thank you for your advice: I did add chmod +x install.sh and now the script runs without MacOS complaining. However, since I had downloaded a new script yesterday and had updated to version 2024.01.23, I cannot check whether the issue was adding +x to the file install.sh.

[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-24 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
Can you please give the link from where you downloaded it? I will test it on my Windows because on Linux it is producing the PDF. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 2:29 PM Ursula Hermann wrote: > Dear List, > > > > I am sorry, but once again me: I downloaded the last upload from Hans > yesterday, I

[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-24 Thread Ursula Hermann
Dear List, I am sorry, but once again me: I downloaded the last upload from Hans yesterday, I downloaded context-win64, and tried the test today . Here is the test: \starttext \startmode[mkiv] \startluacode tex.sprint("hello") \stopluacode \startMPcode draw

[NTG-context] Re: OpenBSD install failed

2024-01-23 Thread Damien Thiriet via ntg-context
Dear Hans, can you test with OpenBSD|openbsd) case "$CPU" in i*86) PLATFORM="openbsd" ;; amd64) PLATFORM="openbsd$-amd64" ;; *) instead? I tested it, with and without the typo at openbds$-amd64

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi Otared, I just tried, and my Macbook ran the update without any problem. Does it make any difference if you chmod +x the script install.sh? All best Thomas On 1/23/24 21:59, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Dr Hans Van der Meer, Thank you for your help. It seems that since January 18 something

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi again, I ended up downloading a new version of install.sh for MacOS from the Pragma site: using this allowed me to update to the latest version 2024-01-23:10H02. Thanks for the help to all ! Best regards: Otared > On 23 Jan 2024, at 21:08, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context > wrote: > >

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Dr Hans Van der Meer, Thank you for your help. It seems that since January 18 something has changed (either on MacOS or on the install script), because the last time I could update without doing anything more than sh install.sh. In any case I checked xattr with which xattr and got:

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
Just did 'sh install.sh' a moment ago without problems. In the past I had to do xattr -d com.apple.quarantaine path-to-executable once but not anymore. I think the xattr resides in the Apple command tools. Are you sure you have them? yours sincerely dr. Hans van der Meer > On 23 Jan 2024, at

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Bruce Horrocks
On 23 Jan 2024, at 16:29, Otared Kavian wrote: > > I wonder whether other MacOS users have had such a problem. Both Intel and ARM macs updated perfectly for me, just now. Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans, I tried to update to your latest version (for MacOS Arm1) with the command sh install.sh but obtained the following message and no update: xattr: bin/mtxrun: No such xattr: com.apple.quarantine install.sh: line 110: 62611 Killed: 9 $PWD/bin/mtxrun --script

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-23 Thread Thomas Meyer
That's it! Many thanks to Hans, Hraban and especially Wolfgang for his solution. This environment should become part of ConTeXt! I have been a LaTeX/XeTeX/LuaLaTeX user for over 30 years and used it to write my papers during my studies and use it for almost all my writing. Now I wanted to try

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2024-01-23 Thread Cron Daemon
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote: 32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report. i uploaded a win32 installer (for now we only keep 32 bit win but once all users are on 64 bit ...) the current upload is as usual work in progress Hans

[NTG-context] Re: Named characters

2024-01-23 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/15/2024 7:57 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, not a complaint, just a question (for Hans and Wolfgang, I guess): in recent versions of lmtx, Greek named characters (constructs such as \greekdasiatonos) don't work any more. Which means I have to adapt some of my older macros. Is this

[NTG-context] Re: OpenBSD install failed

2024-01-22 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/23/2024 12:34 AM, Damien Thiriet via ntg-context wrote: Hello, I tried to install OpenBSD 7.4 binaries but failed. What I did: download the zip from pragma unpack it in /usr/local/context chmod 744 install.sh ./install.sh After running it, there is no file in

[NTG-context] Re: OpenBSD install failed

2024-01-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 23.01.24 um 00:34 schrieb Damien Thiriet via ntg-context: Hello, I tried to install OpenBSD 7.4 binaries but failed. What I did: download the zip from pragma unpack it in /usr/local/context chmod 744 install.sh ./install.sh After running it, there is no file in

[NTG-context] Re: vim syntax highlighting bug?

2024-01-22 Thread Damien Thiriet via ntg-context
Thanks Vincent for your patch, solved this issue. Best regards, Damien Thiriet ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

[NTG-context] OpenBSD install failed

2024-01-22 Thread Damien Thiriet via ntg-context
Hello, I tried to install OpenBSD 7.4 binaries but failed. What I did: download the zip from pragma unpack it in /usr/local/context chmod 744 install.sh ./install.sh After running it, there is no file in /usr/local/context/tex/texmf-openbsd7.4-amd64/ I searched the mailing list archive and

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Thomas Meyer schrieb am 22.01.2024 um 13:04: Am 22.01.24 um 12:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 22.01.24 um 11:46 schrieb Thomas Meyer: I might get a bit impatient if I have the impression that others get an answer faster. Sorry for that. It’s not unusual to get that impression. It

[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-22 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
64-bit ConTeXt(or any other executable) won't work on 32-bit systems. On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:49 PM Ursula Hermann wrote: > Dear List, > > > > I have now another problem: > > I have downloaded context-win64. But the problem is now, that ConTeXt is > not executable on WinEdt11, which is my

[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-22 Thread Ursula Hermann
Dear List, me once again. Sorry forgot to say: 64-Bit-Betriebssystem, x64-basierter Prozessor Uschi Von: Ursula Hermann Gesendet: Montag, 22. Jänner 2024 14:16 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF. Dear List, I have

[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-22 Thread Ursula Hermann
Dear List, I have now another problem: I have downloaded context-win64. But the problem is now, that ConTeXt is not executable on WinEdt11, which is my TextEditor. It worked well with context-mswin. There was no problem. I found context.exe now on

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-22 Thread Thomas Meyer
Am 22.01.24 um 12:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 22.01.24 um 11:46 schrieb Thomas Meyer: I might get a bit impatient if I have the impression that others get an answer faster. Sorry for that. It’s not unusual to get that impression. It depends on the current attention, capacity and

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 22.01.24 um 11:46 schrieb Thomas Meyer: I might get a bit impatient if I have the impression that others get an answer faster. Sorry for that. It’s not unusual to get that impression. It depends on the current attention, capacity and mood of the few who can answer your questions. So the

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-22 Thread Thomas Meyer
Hi Hans, I might get a bit impatient if I have the impression that others get an answer faster. Sorry for that. I thought my example couldn't be any smaller. The only answer I got from Wolfgang was the question for a mwe. Now I found the missing comma and  grid works with the new version

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-22 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/22/2024 10:47 AM, Thomas Meyer wrote: Hi Hans, maybe you understand the question mark now, you are part of it. Unfortunately, I haven't received a reply to my last e-mail from January 18. No I don't. Are you sayign that you want an instant reply every time? I assume you realize that

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-22 Thread Thomas Meyer
Hi Hans, maybe you understand the question mark now, you are part of it. Unfortunately, I haven't received a reply to my last e-mail from January 18. Maybe only those whose questions are more serious, more interesting or whatever will get an answer. I do not understand what you mean with

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-21 Thread Alain Delmotte
Hi Hans, Le 20-01-24 à 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context a écrit : On 1/19/2024 6:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: *Von:*Alain Delmotte *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04 *An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl *Betreff:*

[NTG-context] Re: cont-new.mkiv and \everymathematics

2024-01-21 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/20/2024 7:49 PM, Rogers, Michael K wrote: Hi all, In writing class notes, I frequently make one-letter macros for formatted symbols, such \v and \w for vectors. Generally speaking, one-letter names for function/macros/variables is frowned upon in programming, but I find this localized

[NTG-context] cont-new.mkiv and \everymathematics

2024-01-20 Thread Rogers, Michael K
Hi all, In writing class notes, I frequently make one-letter macros for formatted symbols, such \v and \w for vectors. Generally speaking, one-letter names for function/macros/variables is frowned upon in programming, but I find this localized use very convenient. In cont-new.mkiv, one finds

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/20/24 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 1/19/2024 6:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: >> [...] >> I get a 404 error for both https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and >> https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm. >> [...] > can you try again? Many thanks for the fast

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote: 32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report. 32 bit windows has been dropped for now, i could generate native win32 bins but they are less performing that mingw crosscompiled but all this is more manual work than using the garden

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Ursula Hermann
32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report. Uschi Von: vm via ntg-context Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Jänner 2024 09:58:15 An: ntg-context@ntg.nl Cc: vm Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: upload On 20/01/2024 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > can

[NTG-context] Cron /var/www/aanhet.net/context/bin/cron/context-mirror

2024-01-20 Thread Cron Daemon
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread vm via ntg-context
On 20/01/2024 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: can you try again it made a difference, no 404 ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist :

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/19/2024 6:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: *Von:*Alain Delmotte *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04 *An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl *Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload [...] When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Alain Delmotte
Hi Otared, Le 19-01-24 à 22:56, Otared Kavian a écrit : Hi Pablo, Indeed the two URL you mention result t a 404 error. I guess the correct URL is https://www.pragma-ade.nl and there one may go to the appropriate tab. Best regards: Otared No it doesn't work. I ttried many times. Alain

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Pablo, Indeed the two URL you mention result t a 404 error. I guess the correct URL is https://www.pragma-ade.nl and there one may go to the appropriate tab. Best regards: Otared > On 19 Jan 2024, at 18:34, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context > wrote: > > On

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
  Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context hat am 19.01.2024 18:34 CET geschrieben:     On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: >> *Von:*Alain Delmotte

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/19/2024 7:13 PM, Bruce Horrocks wrote: On 19 Jan 2024, at 09:31, Hans Hagen wrote: On 1/18/2024 11:15 PM, Bruce Horrocks wrote: On 18 Jan 2024, at 18:56, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: I understand that why it is slow, but the problem is that the difference is too high. My book has

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-19 Thread Bruce Horrocks
> On 19 Jan 2024, at 09:31, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 1/18/2024 11:15 PM, Bruce Horrocks wrote: >> On 18 Jan 2024, at 18:56, Shiv Shankar Dayal >> wrote: >>> >>> I understand that why it is slow, but the problem is that the difference is >>> too high. >>> My book has lots of math, so

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: >> *Von:*Alain Delmotte >> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04 >> *An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl >> *Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload >> [...] >> When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 Not Found >> message, so I can't

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/19/2024 11:00 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 19.01.24 um 10:31 schrieb Hans Hagen: (that said: luametatex runs fine on my mobile phone) What’s the smallest/oldest device someone tried LMTX on? (We were joking about “Hans’ thermostate and Alan’s fridge“…) Would it run on some 8 bit

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
> On 19 Jan 2024, at 11:00, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Am 19.01.24 um 10:31 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> (that said: luametatex runs fine on my mobile phone) > > What’s the smallest/oldest device someone tried LMTX on? > (We were joking about “Hans’ thermostate and Alan’s fridge“…) > Would it

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 19.01.24 um 10:31 schrieb Hans Hagen: (that said: luametatex runs fine on my mobile phone) What’s the smallest/oldest device someone tried LMTX on? (We were joking about “Hans’ thermostate and Alan’s fridge“…) Would it run on some 8 bit homecomputer? (I’d guess the RAM is too limited, and

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/18/2024 11:15 PM, Bruce Horrocks wrote: On 18 Jan 2024, at 18:56, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: I understand that why it is slow, but the problem is that the difference is too high. My book has lots of math, so perhaps that is the reason. Option 1: Buy or borrow a faster computer.

[NTG-context] Re: LuaMetaTeX code

2024-01-19 Thread Henri Menke via ntg-context
On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 13:56 +0530, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > Dear Hans, > > I saw the C code of LuaMetaTeX and I saw a lot of gotos which is not > good > coding practice. These potions of code which have goto should be > refactored. https://xkcd.com/292/ > I am a C programmer, but I know very

[NTG-context] Re: LuaMetaTeX code

2024-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/19/2024 9:31 AM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: I see code like # define luametatex_version          210 # define luametatex_revision         10 # define luametatex_release          10 # define luametatex_version_string   "2.10.10" starting with C99 these become unnecessary. Rather they should

[NTG-context] Re: LuaMetaTeX code

2024-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/19/2024 9:26 AM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Dear Hans, I saw the C code of LuaMetaTeX and I saw a lot of gotos which is not good coding practice. These potions of code which have goto should be refactored. I am a C programmer, but I know very little of TeX. If you can point me towards

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/19/2024 1:33 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: \starttext \dorecurse{5000}{\ReadFile{knuth}} \stoptext I'll send you the PDFs offlist. lmtx defaults to 'modern' so you need to \setupbodyfont[modern] for mkiv Hans -

[NTG-context] Re: LuaMetaTeX code

2024-01-19 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
Dear Taco, I will send new messages to dev mailing lists. Let me join it first. On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 2:11 PM Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Hi Shiv, > > Can you move this discussion to the dev-context list, please? > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/dev-context.ntg.nl/ > > Best wishes, >

[NTG-context] Re: LuaMetaTeX code

2024-01-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Shiv, Can you move this discussion to the dev-context list, please? https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/dev-context.ntg.nl/ Best wishes, Taco > On 19 Jan 2024, at 09:31, Shiv Shankar Dayal > wrote: > > I see code like > > # define luametatex_version 210 > # define

[NTG-context] Re: LuaMetaTeX code

2024-01-19 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
I see code like # define luametatex_version 210 # define luametatex_revision 10 # define luametatex_release 10 # define luametatex_version_string "2.10.10" starting with C99 these become unnecessary. Rather they should be like const int luametatex_version=210; const

[NTG-context] LuaMetaTeX code

2024-01-19 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
Dear Hans, I saw the C code of LuaMetaTeX and I saw a lot of gotos which is not good coding practice. These potions of code which have goto should be refactored. I am a C programmer, but I know very little of TeX. If you can point me towards where should I start for TeX(perhaps TeX Book or TeX

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 1/19/2024 12:34 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2024, Hans Hagen wrote: > > > >> Of course we'll never be as fast as (pure) plain tex (no layers added) or > >> latex (which often is advocated as faster than context). > > >

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/19/2024 12:34 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 18 Jan 2024, Hans Hagen wrote: Of course we'll never be as fast as (pure) plain tex (no layers added) or latex (which often is advocated as faster than context). I was curious, so did a quick experiment: typeset \input knuth 500 times.

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 18 Jan 2024, Hans Hagen wrote: > Of course we'll never be as fast as (pure) plain tex (no layers added) or > latex (which often is advocated as faster than context). I was curious, so did a quick experiment: typeset \input knuth 500 times. Here are the results: pdflatex: 547 pages/sec

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Bruce Horrocks
On 18 Jan 2024, at 18:56, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > > I understand that why it is slow, but the problem is that the difference is > too high. > My book has lots of math, so perhaps that is the reason. Option 1: Buy or borrow a faster computer. You'll get your desired speed-up far faster

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Joseph Wright
On 18/01/2024 20:55, Gavin via ntg-context wrote: That’s fast enough for me. That's surely the key statement - 'fast' here is a personal thing, and 40 pages a second is fast enough for many people. It's certainly fast when you look at what LuaMetaTeX is doing, as Hans has said. Joseph

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Gavin via ntg-context
Hi Shiv, ConTeXt’s project structure has many benefits. One is speed. See https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Project_structure. My books and long papers are products, each containing many components (chapters or sections). When I’m working, I have both the product and a component open. I

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
Works here. Best, Denis Von: Alain Delmotte Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04 An: ntg-context@ntg.nl Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: upload Hi, When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl/ I get an 404 Not Found message, so I can't download the new upload !! Any reason? Alain Le

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Alain Delmotte
Hi, When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl/ I get an 404 Not Found message, so I can't download the new upload !! Any reason? Alain Le 18-01-24 à 00:13, Hans Hagen a écrit : Hi, I uploaded a new version (there is some work in progress but it probably doesn't affect anyone). Hans

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/18/2024 7:56 PM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: In comparison to LaTeX with LuaHBTeX, ConTeXt with LuaMetaTeX is lightning fast. pdfTeX is 8bit, and Knuth’s plain TeX is very low level – for a fairer comparison, try the TeXbook on LuaMetaTeX (I don’t know if “plain” works

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Mikael Sundqvist
Hi, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 7:58 PM Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > > > > >> In comparison to LaTeX with LuaHBTeX, ConTeXt with LuaMetaTeX is >> lightning fast. >> >> pdfTeX is 8bit, and Knuth’s plain TeX is very low level – for a fairer >> comparison, try the TeXbook on LuaMetaTeX (I don’t know if

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
In comparison to LaTeX with LuaHBTeX, ConTeXt with LuaMetaTeX is > lightning fast. > > pdfTeX is 8bit, and Knuth’s plain TeX is very low level – for a fairer > comparison, try the TeXbook on LuaMetaTeX (I don’t know if “plain” works > though). > I understand that why it is slow, but the problem

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 18.01.24 um 18:47 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context: On 1/18/24 18:24, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: I can process TeXBook in almost an instant using PDFTeX which is about 450+ pages but my math book takes around 30 seconds averaging ~40 pages/second. Hi Shiv Shankar Dayal, I guess that

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/18/24 18:24, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > I can process TeXBook in almost an instant using PDFTeX which is about > 450+ pages but my math book takes around 30 seconds averaging ~40 > pages/second. Hi Shiv Shankar Dayal, I guess that “The TeXbook” (having been written by Knuth himself) may be

[NTG-context] scaling tweaked fonts

2024-01-18 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
Hi Hans, I have the following sample which behaves differently after latest from 2023.09.26 18:19: \definetweakedfont[wider][xscale=1075] \starttext \startTEXpage[align=center] \contextversion\\ \wider \contextversion \stopTEXpage \stoptext Up to that version, no

[NTG-context] Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Shiv Shankar Dayal
I can process TeXBook in almost an instant using PDFTeX which is about 450+ pages but my math book takes around 30 seconds averaging ~40 pages/second. Why LuaMetaTeX is so slow? How can I speed it up? -- Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/18/2024 3:27 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Dear Dalyoung, dear Mikael, I installed anew the whole LMTX tree and now everything is working fine. I don’t know whether this is related or not, somehow in my previous tree I had a directory (or folder in the MacOS language) named « texmf-osx-64 »

[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear Dalyoung, dear Mikael, I installed anew the whole LMTX tree and now everything is working fine. I don’t know whether this is related or not, somehow in my previous tree I had a directory (or folder in the MacOS language) named « texmf-osx-64 » instead « texmf-osx-arm64 » and this

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118

2024-01-18 Thread Thomas Meyer
Am 18.01.24 um 13:51 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 13:00, Thomas Meyer wrote: What is going on? Yesterday I got a perfect on-grid-written document! But today, with the newest context-version (20240118) all changed for the worse. I may not get a reply

[NTG-context] How to Create Asymmetrical Continuous Columns in ConTeXt?

2024-01-18 Thread seyal . zavira
Hi all, I have a lengthy text that I wish to seamlessly incorporate using the \input{mytext} command in ConTeXt. Additionally, I aim to present it in asymmetrical continuous columns, where the text flows over several pages. I have tried paragraphs and columns, but in paragraphs, I can't flow

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 (was: "Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 13:00, Thomas Meyer wrote: > What is going on? > > Yesterday I got a perfect on-grid-written document! > But today, with the newest context-version (20240118) all changed for the > worse. > > I may not get a reply to this e-mail either! > > > Am 17.01.24 um 20:57 schrieb

[NTG-context] Re: [ \copypages ]

2024-01-18 Thread Floris van Manen via ntg-context
On 18/01/2024 12:10, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: yes but experimental and not yet documented I don't mind experimenting with it. e.g. I try to change the font color in existing pdf documents from black to blue. At the moment my workaround is using mutool to export pages to svg.

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118

2024-01-18 Thread Thomas Meyer
I may not understand it ... Where can I find the thread (which keyword?)and which values are bad? Greetings Thomas Am 18.01.24 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: as follow up on the keyword thread we decided to treat bad values to equivalent to 'no'

[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: Re: x mark symbol and general symbol guide

2024-01-18 Thread Gerion Entrup
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2024, 15:56:32 CET schrieb Gerion Entrup: > Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2024, 21:17:57 CET schrieb Hans Hagen: > > On 1/9/2024 8:31 PM, Gerion Entrup wrote: > > > > > My system awesome font is version 6 but isn't the one bundled with > > > ConTeXt version 5 (FontAwesome.otf)?

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118

2024-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/18/2024 12:59 PM, Thomas Meyer wrote: What is going on? Yesterday I got a perfect on-grid-written document! But today, with the newest context-version (20240118) all changed for the worse. as follow up on the keyword thread we decided to treat bad values to equivalent to 'no' I may

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