[NTG-context] EUROTEX2006 - hartmut-talk.pdf -
Very good to me hartmut-talk.pdf, so I've made www.logosrl.it/context/pdftex/hartmut-talk.html luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Hi Taco! On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: context 2006.12.17-0.1 is available from the usual place: deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ I want to upload this package to Debian proper soon. Please give suggestions/remarks/comments! I am not a debian user so I will not comment on the package itself, but I fully expect a new release from Hans today, so perhaps it is better to wait a few hours before uploading. Ok, thanks a lot. May I ask you something about copyright: For proper inclusion I really need to know the copyright not only of the files in cont-tmf, but aslo in the others, cont-ext, cont-fnt, cont-img. Is there any chance to get a statement of them beign DFSG compatible? Otherwise I have to exclude some of it and put it into something like context-nonfree. BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for luatex which I am also packaging. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BROUGH SOWERBY One who has been working at that same desk in the same office for fifteen years and has very much his own ideas about why he is continually passed over for promotion. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Something about vertical Chinese typesetting
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:43 +0800
Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Zhichu Chen,
Dear Texers,
I am typesetting some traditional Chinese articles. They are
typesetted in vertical, and the reading order is from right to left.
This can be done by Hans' \startvertical . . . \stopvertical pair. But
as shown in the attached file, there are some famous notes,
descriptions and explanations to these articles. The traditional way,
in Chinese, to typeset these notes is rather to insert them in some
small fonts (say, half size of the \bodyfontsize) right below the word
to be explained, than to use footnotes which is common in English.
I've tried some ways, e.g., use \startcolumnsetspan . . .
\stopcolumnsetspan to put the body text across the note text, but all
failed.
Can anyone give me some clue?
I dont't how the result you wanted looks exactlxy but I hope my
attached example file helps you.
To give you a better results give us a specification about the rules
how the explanations should be written.
Can you also take a look at the following pages if there is what you
want as result:
- http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/
- http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-ruby
- http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/ruby/
- http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/
Wolfgang
\unprotect
\def\zc{zc}
\def\sidetext
{\dosingleempty\dosidetext}
\def\dosidetext[#1]#2#3%
{\bgroup
\setupsidetext[#1]
\edef\sidetextsize{\switchtobodyfont[\the\dimexpr\zcscale\bodyfontsize\relax]}%
\setbox0\vbox{\startvertical#2\stopvertical}
\setbox1\vbox{\startvertical\sidetextsize\zcstyle#3\stopvertical}
\dimen0\ht0\advance\dimen0-\dp0
\hbox{\box0\rlap{\vbox\!!to\dimen0{\vss\box1\vss}}}
\egroup}
\def\setupsidetext
{\dosingleargument\getparameters[\zc]}
\setupsidetext
[\c!scale=.5,
\c!style=]
\protect
\enableregime[utf]
\usemodule[chi-00]
\setupbodyfont[24pt]
%\showmakeup
\starttext
\startvertical
ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½\sidetext{好}{好好}
ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½\sidetext[scale=.8]{好}{好好}
ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½\sidetext[style=\bf]{好}{好}ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½
å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½ä½ ä½ å¥½ä½ å¥½
\stopvertical
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Norbert Preining wrote: Ok, thanks a lot. May I ask you something about copyright: For proper inclusion I really need to know the copyright not only of the files in cont-tmf, but aslo in the others, cont-ext, cont-fnt, cont-img. The cows fonts (inside cont-tmf) are cc-by-nd. TeXLive doesn't like that, so perhaps the same is true for debian. Everything in (the current versions of) cont-ext, cont-fmt and cont-img is either GPLv2 or Public Domain. Is there any chance to get a statement of them beign DFSG compatible? Otherwise I have to exclude some of it and put it into something like context-nonfree. BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for luatex which I am also packaging. Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that know how to deal with unstable software. Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Hi Taco! On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: The cows fonts (inside cont-tmf) are cc-by-nd. TeXLive doesn't like that, so perhaps the same is true for debian. Ok. Everything in (the current versions of) cont-ext, cont-fmt and cont-img is either GPLv2 or Public Domain. Thanks for clarification. BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for luatex which I am also packaging. Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that know how to deal with unstable software. I know, I will call the package luatex-snapshot upload it to experimental, and people will get a warning about its usage. It is ok this way, not many people will get it from experimental anyway, but I want to have it around for testing, and better early adoption then late work. The point is that there are people who don't want to compile things but still are able to test stuff. For those luatex-snapshot pacakged will serve, too (and for me, because I don't want to have packages not under package management control on my system ;-) Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- HASTINGS (pl.n.) Things said on the spur of the moment to explain to someone who comes into a room unexpectedly precisely what it is you are doing. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Context - Tex
Hello, Is there some way that I can convert my context file into tex? I am just pondering how much faster running straight tex through pdftex would be than using context. Is there some way to run it through texexec and get tex out of it instead of a pdf/dvi? Or are there stats about this kind of thing somewhere that I can lookup? Thanks, paul ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for luatex which I am also packaging. Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that know how to deal with unstable software. I forgot to say: If you or the team have strong feelings *against* a packaged version, even if it is accompanied by big warnings etc, let us know, we can also forget about the packaging for now. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- There are of course many problems connected with life, of which some of the most popular are `Why are people born?' Why do they spend so much of the intervening time wearing digital watches?' --- The Book. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] pb inserting multipage documents
Hi everybody,
I'm experiencing pb with the latest stable version : insertion of
multipage external document leads to the rendering of only the first
page, with this command :
\getfiguredimensions[doc-guidecstb-sol-tecnic-rt2000-gobck.pdf]
\dorecurse{\noffigurepages}{\externalfigure[doc-guidecstb-sol-tecnic-rt2000-gobck.pdf]
[width=\textwidth,height=\textheight][page=\recurselevel]}
If you are interested, you can test source and see differences at this
url : http://tebcado.free.fr/context-quest/01/
TIA for the answers.
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Re: [NTG-context] EUROTEX2006 - hartmut-talk.pdf -
luigi scarso wrote: Very good to me hartmut-talk.pdf, so I've made www.logosrl.it/context/pdftex/hartmut-talk.html luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context hi luigi, really nice work (except the positioning of the two buttons) :) for all of you who get eye cancer, if they must read more than one page from a monitor, the printable version can be found at http://www.matexhu.org/eurotex2006/lectures/pdftex/ thanks for pointing to this interesting doc. greetings, peter ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context - Tex
On 12/20/06, Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Is there some way that I can convert my context file into tex? I am just pondering how much faster running straight tex through pdftex would be than using context. hmm, maybe in context \tracingall\starttext Hello\stoptext and something similar in pdftex (ie, activate all tracing before write Hello ) You can then compare logs to have an idea. luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] EUROTEX2006 - hartmut-talk.pdf -
really nice work (except the positioning of the two buttons) :) if you download swftools and compile it, you will find HOWTO_pdf2swf andinside it $ pdf2swf -bl -o hartmut-talk.swf hartmut-talk.pdf do all work; after that I use !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd htmlheadtitle/title /headbody div id=centercontent h1centercontent/h1 OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 WIDTH=595 HEIGHT=841 CODEBASE=http://active.macromedia.com/flash5/cabs/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0; PARAM NAME=MOVIE VALUE=hartmut-talk.swf PARAM NAME=PLAY VALUE=true PARAM NAME=LOOP VALUE=true PARAM NAME=QUALITY VALUE=high EMBED SRC=hartmut-talk.swf WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 PLAY=true ALIGN= LOOP=true QUALITY=high TYPE=application/x-shockwave-flash PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer; /EMBED /OBJECT /div /body /html --- http://www.matexhu.org/eurotex2006/lectures/pdftex/ Yes, also pdfs on luatex are good candidate to swf-lizations. luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] EUROTEX2006 - hartmut-talk.pdf -
luigi scarso wrote: really nice work (except the positioning of the two buttons) :) if you download swftools and compile it, you will find HOWTO_pdf2swf andinside it $ pdf2swf -bl -o hartmut-talk.swf hartmut-talk.pdf do all work; after that I use !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd htmlheadtitle/title /headbody div id=centercontent h1centercontent/h1 OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 WIDTH=595 HEIGHT=841 CODEBASE=http://active.macromedia.com/flash5/cabs/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0; PARAM NAME=MOVIE VALUE=hartmut-talk.swf PARAM NAME=PLAY VALUE=true PARAM NAME=LOOP VALUE=true PARAM NAME=QUALITY VALUE=high EMBED SRC=hartmut-talk.swf WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 PLAY=true ALIGN= LOOP=true QUALITY=high TYPE=application/x-shockwave-flash PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer; /EMBED /OBJECT /div /body /html --- http://www.matexhu.org/eurotex2006/lectures/pdftex/ Yes, also pdfs on luatex are good candidate to swf-lizations. luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ah, thats the magic behind it (i wasn't aware of these tools). this looks promising.. an easy way to get pdf in the web. opera can even scale the output (no success with firefox). and in comparison to apparition, it doesn't make itself the default pdf viewer (which makes testing annoying). again thanks for the info. :) cheers, peter ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context - Tex
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:26:00 -0700
Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Paul,
Hello,
Is there some way that I can convert my context file into tex? I am
just pondering how much faster running straight tex through pdftex
would be than using context. Is there some way to run it through
texexec and get tex out of it instead of a pdf/dvi? Or are there
stats about this kind of thing somewhere that I can lookup?
Thanks,
paul
You can load only the format files from context and it will run faster
than the ruby and perl version. I can do this on my machine with
\type{pdftex -fmt=cont-en myfile} but this produce dvi-files and you
will never get a table of contents or any else index, because they are
created with the ruby and perl scripts.
What do you mean by creating a tex file, ConTeXt files are normally
always tex-files or do you mean plain or low level TeX.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Context - Tex
Hi, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: What do you mean by creating a tex file, ConTeXt files are normally always tex-files or do you mean plain or low level TeX. Generally speaking, a low-level tex file that does the same as context does will have to be undistinguisable from context and therefore will run at the same speed. Best, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] pb inserting multipage documents
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, olivier Turlier wrote:
Hi everybody,
I'm experiencing pb with the latest stable version : insertion of
multipage external document leads to the rendering of only the first
page, with this command :
\getfiguredimensions[doc-guidecstb-sol-tecnic-rt2000-gobck.pdf]
\dorecurse{\noffigurepages}{\externalfigure[doc-guidecstb-sol-tecnic-rt2000-gobck.pdf]
[width=\textwidth,height=\textheight][page=\recurselevel]}
Try
\copypages[filename][width=\textwidth,height=\textheight]
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything in (the current versions of) cont-ext, cont-fmt and cont-img is either GPLv2 or Public Domain. Well, the interesting question is what is what? It's quite important to not handle a GPL'ed file as if it was Public Domain. Is there any chance to get a statement of them beign DFSG compatible? Otherwise I have to exclude some of it and put it into something like context-nonfree. BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for luatex which I am also packaging. Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that know how to deal with unstable software. I have no opinion about this particular case, but if we only upload it to Debian experimental, we can expect its users to be able to deal with unstable and totally broken software. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Norbert Preining wrote: On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for luatex which I am also packaging. Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that know how to deal with unstable software. I forgot to say: If you or the team have strong feelings *against* a packaged version, even if it is accompanied by big warnings etc, let us know, we can also forget about the packaging for now. taco's remark only concerns luatex binaries; these are on and off stable; for instance the new file io part is rather ok now, but currently taco is redoing much of the font part; somewhere mid 2007 there will be the first more or less beta version, and around tug 2007 there will be the first formal beta release; this means that upto then, checked in versions can be rather unstable; concerning context: we use context for torture testing luatex (related context code is versioned as 'mkiv code' but is not yet distributed) but this testing does not influence (much) the current context distribution (mkii code) so, no need to worry -) Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Norbert Preining wrote: I know, I will call the package luatex-snapshot upload it to experimental, and people will get a warning about its usage. It is ok this way, not many people will get it from experimental anyway, but I want to have it around for testing, and better early adoption then late work. ok, for the sake if testing integration, compilation, etc, making a debian package makes sense; as long as you add some 'no support whatsoever' clause (btw, is may also help if lua is installed as part of the system utilities; it's small so ...) just for fun: you can use luatex as lua interpreter: luatex --lua somescript.lua with somescript.lua being print(I'm LuaTeX!) is a nice testcase. The point is that there are people who don't want to compile things but still are able to test stuff. For those luatex-snapshot pacakged will serve, too (and for me, because I don't want to have packages not under package management control on my system ;-) ok Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Context style macros for metapost
Hi, There are certain things that I do not like about metapost (it is not possible to specify drawoptions and filloptions separately, it lacks some of the features of tikz, etc.) and I was playing around trying to implement them. Being used to the ConTeXt way of things, I wanted to write macros in metapost the same way (define setup etc.) This is my first attempt --- a replacement for dashpattern macro. delimiters [[ ]] ; def definedash suffix @# = [EMAIL PROTECTED] enddef ; vardef [EMAIL PROTECTED] t]] = save on, off, w ; let on = _on_ ; let off = _off_ ; w = 0 ; picture @# ; @# := nullpicture t enddef ; definedash [[myeven]] [[on 3 off 3]] ; beginfig(1) draw (0,0)--(100,100) dashed myeven ; endfig ; end; Is there a better way to do this in metapost? Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Something about vertical Chinese typesetting
Thank you very much Wolfgang, although this is not exactly what I want, your help still gives me some important hints. I guess I should do it myself. By the way, no offending, are you german? I've seen many german guys insterested in Chinese. And the CJK package for LaTeX is designed by Werner Lemberg who is german too. On 12/20/06, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:43 +0800 Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zhichu Chen, Dear Texers, I am typesetting some traditional Chinese articles. They are typesetted in vertical, and the reading order is from right to left. This can be done by Hans' \startvertical . . . \stopvertical pair. But as shown in the attached file, there are some famous notes, descriptions and explanations to these articles. The traditional way, in Chinese, to typeset these notes is rather to insert them in some small fonts (say, half size of the \bodyfontsize) right below the word to be explained, than to use footnotes which is common in English. I've tried some ways, e.g., use \startcolumnsetspan . . . \stopcolumnsetspan to put the body text across the note text, but all failed. Can anyone give me some clue? I dont't how the result you wanted looks exactlxy but I hope my attached example file helps you. To give you a better results give us a specification about the rules how the explanations should be written. Can you also take a look at the following pages if there is what you want as result: - http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/ - http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-ruby - http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/ruby/ - http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/ Wolfgang ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context -- Sincerely yours, Chen Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] \hairline in the header and column rule
Dear all, I'd like to ask about drawing a line in the header and a line between columns. 1)I'd like to add hairlines in the header using before and after in \setupheader, but the lines was drawn from the leftend of the leftmargin with the textwidth only. So, there is no line at the right end of the header. How to make the lines start from the left end of the text area? 2) I setup [rule=on] in column setup, but the length of the line depends on the length of the text. How to draw the separation line from the top to bottom? Thank you for reading. Regards Dalyoung Here is the code and output. *** \setupheader[][before=\hairline, after=\hairline] \setupheadertexts[][text for the header] \setuppagenumbering[location=footer] \starttext \startcolumns[rule=on, n=2] attachment: sample.jpg ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \hairline in the header and column rule
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Dalyoung Jeong wrote: Dear all, I'd like to ask about drawing a line in the header and a line between columns. 1)I'd like to add hairlines in the header using before and after in \setupheader, but the lines was drawn from the leftend of the leftmargin with the textwidth only. So, there is no line at the right end of the header. How to make the lines start from the left end of the text area? \setupbackgrounds[header][text][bottomframe=on,topframe=on] 2) I setup [rule=on] in column setup, but the length of the line depends on the length of the text. How to draw the separation line from the top to bottom? Doesn't rule=on do that? \startcolumns[rule=on, n=2] \input knuth \stopcolumns Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
