Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Indeed. Thanks from me as well. -- Espi On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote: > Interesting read. Thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:49 PM > To: ntsysadm > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/ > securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations > https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a > > Kurt > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss < > km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > > What are those again? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM > > To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access > Workstations - which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. > > > > Kurt > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss < > km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > >> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it > is to build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI > will prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as > much as possible. > >> > >> -Original Message----- > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean > running without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI > tools can connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a > matter of having your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The > transition is difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe > people who refused to adapt, this is technology we must learn. > >> > >> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not > call that new. > >> -Matt > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. > >> Moss > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my > group who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a > DNNizen, and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). > Why run ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when > PHP was born on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when > dealing with creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at > current stats. I tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I > should, for the most part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up > with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue > is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s > that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you > choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, > so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F > >> Sullivan > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant > was that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, > thus not having to use Linux to get those benefits. > >> > >> > >> > >> A
Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Agreed. It is a risk/reward consideration. If you cannot afford to get breached, then this is far less costly than a breach. Often, people belatedly realize that they could have afforded to do something differently than they initially considered. Regards, *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…* * GPG: *860D 40A1 4DA5 3AE1 B052 8F9F 07A1 F9D6 A549 8842 On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Until I implement, I can't say for sure just how practical it is or > isn't, but it seems to me that if your org is under any kind of > regulatory regime (HIPAA, SarbOx, JSOX, etc.) that at least the Domain > Admins should be doing this. > > Kurt > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Katherine M. Moss > <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > > Seemingly only practical, though in the most high security situations. I > > can’t imagine that too many of us will bother with it since it’s more > > administrative overhead than most probably care to deal with. > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > > > > > From: Michael B. Smith > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 17:33 > > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > > > > > Interesting read. Thanks. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] > > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:49 PM > > To: ntsysadm > > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/ > securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations > > https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a > > > > Kurt > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss > > <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > >> What are those again? > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM > >> To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > >> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access > >> Workstations - which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. > >> > >> Kurt > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss > >> <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > >>> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it > is > >>> to build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI > will > >>> prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as > much as > >>> possible. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork > >>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM > >>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > >>> Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >>> > >>> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean > >>> running without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management > GUI > >>> tools can connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a > matter > >>> of having your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The > >>> transition is difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe > people > >>> who refused to adapt, this is technology we must learn. > >>> > >>> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not > call > >>> that new. > >>> -Matt > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. > >>> Moss > >>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM > >>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >>> Subject: RE
Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Thanks, Kurt. This is a good read. Regards, *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…* * GPG: *860D 40A1 4DA5 3AE1 B052 8F9F 07A1 F9D6 A549 8842 On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/ > securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations > https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a > > Kurt > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss > <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > > What are those again? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM > > To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access > Workstations - which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. > > > > Kurt > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss < > km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > >> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it > is to build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI > will prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as > much as possible. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean > running without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI > tools can connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a > matter of having your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The > transition is difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe > people who refused to adapt, this is technology we must learn. > >> > >> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not > call that new. > >> -Matt > >> > >> -----Original Message- > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my > group who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a > DNNizen, and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). > Why run ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when > PHP was born on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when > dealing with creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at > current stats. I tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I > should, for the most part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up > with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue > is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s > that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you > choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, > so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F > >> Sullivan > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM > >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant > was that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, > thus not having to use Linux to get those benefits. > >> > >> > >> > >> As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what > platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. > >>
Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Until I implement, I can't say for sure just how practical it is or isn't, but it seems to me that if your org is under any kind of regulatory regime (HIPAA, SarbOx, JSOX, etc.) that at least the Domain Admins should be doing this. Kurt On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Katherine M. Moss <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > Seemingly only practical, though in the most high security situations. I > can’t imagine that too many of us will bother with it since it’s more > administrative overhead than most probably care to deal with. > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Michael B. Smith > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 17:33 > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > Interesting read. Thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:49 PM > To: ntsysadm > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations > https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a > > Kurt > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss > <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: >> What are those again? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM >> To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> >> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access >> Workstations - which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss >> <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: >>> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is >>> to build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will >>> prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as >>> possible. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork >>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM >>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >>> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >>> >>> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean >>> running without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI >>> tools can connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter >>> of having your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The >>> transition is difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people >>> who refused to adapt, this is technology we must learn. >>> >>> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call >>> that new. >>> -Matt >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. >>> Moss >>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM >>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >>> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >>> >>> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group >>> who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, >>> and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run >>> ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born >>> on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with >>> creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I >>> tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most >>> part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because >>> Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who >>> are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the >>> right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Seemingly only practical, though in the most high security situations. I can’t imagine that too many of us will bother with it since it’s more administrative overhead than most probably care to deal with. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Michael B. Smith<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 17:33 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Interesting read. Thanks. -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:49 PM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a Kurt On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > What are those again? > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM > To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access Workstations - > which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. > > Kurt > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss > <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: >> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to >> build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will >> prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as >> possible. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running >> without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI tools can >> connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having >> your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The transition is >> difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused >> to adapt, this is technology we must learn. >> >> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call >> that new. >> -Matt >> >> -Original Message- >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. >> Moss >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group >> who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, >> and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run >> ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born >> on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with >> creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I >> tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most >> part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because >> Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who >> are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the >> right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when >> both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, >> let’s try something new and fun. >> >> >> >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F >> Sullivan >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> >> >> Yes, people usually do run Linux server
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Interesting read. Thanks. -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:49 PM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a Kurt On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > What are those again? > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM > To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access Workstations - > which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. > > Kurt > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss > <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: >> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to >> build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will >> prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as >> possible. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running >> without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI tools can >> connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having >> your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The transition is >> difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused >> to adapt, this is technology we must learn. >> >> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call >> that new. >> -Matt >> >> -Original Message- >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. >> Moss >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group >> who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, >> and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run >> ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born >> on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with >> creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I >> tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most >> part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because >> Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who >> are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the >> right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when >> both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, >> let’s try something new and fun. >> >> >> >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F >> Sullivan >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> >> >> Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was >> that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus >> not having to use Linux to get those benefits. >> >> >> >> As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what >> platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. >> >> >> >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitfor
Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a Kurt On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > What are those again? > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM > To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access Workstations - > which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. > > Kurt > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss > <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: >> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to >> build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will >> prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as >> possible. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running >> without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI tools can >> connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having >> your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The transition is >> difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused >> to adapt, this is technology we must learn. >> >> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call >> that new. >> -Matt >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group >> who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, >> and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run >> ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born >> on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with >> creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I >> tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most >> part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because >> Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who >> are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the >> right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when >> both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, >> let’s try something new and fun. >> >> >> >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F >> Sullivan >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> >> >> Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was >> that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus >> not having to use Linux to get those benefits. >> >> >> >> As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what >> platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. >> >> >> >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> >> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas >> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM >> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server >> Core/NanoServer over Linux? >> >> >
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
What are those again? -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access Workstations - which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. Kurt On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to > build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will > prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as > possible. > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running > without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI tools can > connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having > your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The transition is > difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused to > adapt, this is technology we must learn. > > Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call > that new. > -Matt > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who > sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and > trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET > when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on > Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures > of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use > what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it > have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are > new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one > thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the > job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when both can perform > equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try > something new and fun. > > > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F > Sullivan > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that > you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not > having to use Linux to get those benefits. > > > > As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what > platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. > > > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > You can run linux without a gui. > > > > Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" > <charles.sulliva...@bc.edu <mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> >: > > Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows > without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” > > > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@
Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access Workstations - which is how I'm going to configure my next machine. Kurt On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to > build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will > prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as > possible. > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] > On Behalf Of Matt Stork > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running > without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI tools can > connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having > your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The transition is > difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused to > adapt, this is technology we must learn. > > Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call > that new. > -Matt > > -Original Message- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] > On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who > sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and > trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET > when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on > Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures > of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use > what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it > have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are > new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one > thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the > job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when both can perform > equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try > something new and fun. > > > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] > On Behalf Of Charles F Sullivan > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that > you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not > having to use Linux to get those benefits. > > > > As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what > platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. > > > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > You can run linux without a gui. > > > > Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" > <charles.sulliva...@bc.edu <mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> >: > > Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows > without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” > > > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com > <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > Hey all, > > Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the > argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? > What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing > preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been > wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say. >
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as possible. -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI tools can connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The transition is difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused to adapt, this is technology we must learn. Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call that new. -Matt -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F Sullivan Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not having to use Linux to get those benefits. As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? You can run linux without a gui. Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" <charles.sulliva...@bc.edu <mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> >: Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Hey all, Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say.
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running without a GUI locally. The majority of the server management GUI tools can connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having your firewall and authentication setup to allow this. The transition is difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused to adapt, this is technology we must learn. Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008. I would not call that new. -Matt -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F Sullivan Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not having to use Linux to get those benefits. As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? You can run linux without a gui. Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" <charles.sulliva...@bc.edu <mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> >: Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Hey all, Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say.
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F Sullivan Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not having to use Linux to get those benefits. As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? You can run linux without a gui. Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" <charles.sulliva...@bc.edu<mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu>>: Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Hey all, Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say.
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that you can use Windows *Server Core or Nano* to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not having to use Linux to get those benefits. As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Rene de Haas *Sent:* Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? You can run linux without a gui. Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" < charles.sulliva...@bc.edu>: Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Katherine M. Moss *Sent:* Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Hey all, Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say.
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
You can run linux without a gui. Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" < charles.sulliva...@bc.edu>: > Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without the > overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Katherine M. Moss > *Sent:* Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM > *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server > Core/NanoServer over Linux? > > > > Hey all, > > Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the > argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? > What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing > preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been > wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say. >
RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?
Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?” *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Katherine M. Moss *Sent:* Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux? Hey all, Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say.
