[nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Dawn Hannay
Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in winter, but I seem to remember some change in that policy. Thank you, Dawn Hannay Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info:

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy Point? We > used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in winter, but I seem to > remember some

[nysbirds-l] Why does eBird allow reports of domestic/captive birds?

2022-02-03 Thread Andrew Block
Question.  Why does eBird allow reports of captive/domestic birds to be reported?  I don't get that.  I was shown by a friend a report of a dozen or so Barnacle Geese seen at the Bronx Zoo which are obviously not wild birds.  Why would someone report that in the first place and why would eBird

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why does eBird allow reports of domestic/captive birds?

2022-02-03 Thread John Kent
https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48000948757-ebird-faqs#anchordonotreport On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Block wrote: > Question. Why does eBird allow reports of captive/domestic birds to be > reported? I don't get that. I was shown by a friend a report of a

[nysbirds-l] Location to view the eagles at Storm King

2022-02-03 Thread Andrew Block
Hi all, Does anyone know where to view the Golden Eagles at Storm King Mtn.?  Will be going up there on Saturday so was wondering since I haven't seen any posts here about them in awhile. Andrew Andrew v. F. Block Consulting Naturalist 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Jennifer Wilson-Pines
Photos of sign at Breezy recently posted on another list- permit not required in winter (until March) On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:04 PM Robert O'Neill wrote: > Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit > you can be towed. > Bob O’Neill > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Stanley Greenberg
This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread tess
The federal government repeatedly has cut budgets for park and recreation areas over the past 20 years. At this point our tax dollars actually do not cover even a bare bones budges for these areas and fees for parking and other services are an increasingly important part of their budgets. 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Deborah Shapiro
Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags? > On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill wrote: > >  > Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit you > can be towed. > Bob O’Neill >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus wrote: >> I will ask

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why does eBird allow reports of domestic/captive birds?

2022-02-03 Thread Jeanne
Maybe for the same reason they allow reports of  birds that are on private property? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 4:54 PM, John Kent wrote: #yiv7862139209 p.yiv7862139209MsoNormal, #yiv7862139209

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and you need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this unjust regulation. Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this season. It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of Fort Tilden.

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
We should support Audubon, Linnaean etc in their process to change the permit parameters. It is not all that easy to buy a fishing permit, so I have been told. I had considered buying one. I would like to know how our supportive organizations are working on this problem. We do pay taxes. I live

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Adelia Honeywood
When I went recently we parked at Fort Tilden and then took a Lyft over to the Fisherman's Lot at Breezy. You can also take the Q35 bus until just over the Marine Pkwy Bridge and take an Uber or Lyft from there. I agree with Stanley though that a national park is supposed to be accessible to

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Trachlar
Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily). L. Trachtenberg Ossining NY Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus wrote: > >  > Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Ardith Bondi
But, isn’t the permit for fishermen only, or is there a permit for birders? Ardith NYC www.ardithbondi.com Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Dawn Hannay wrote: > > I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m > willing to buy a permit, there is no

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Robert O'Neill
Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit you can be towed. Bob O’Neill On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus wrote: > I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay wrote: > > > > Can

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Jennifer Wilson-Pines
I know that there is a discussion with State parks to create a birders permit, perhaps that can also be proposed if they don't want to have general public using limited parking Jennifer On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Stanley Greenberg wrote: > This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
Where do you park the bike? Would it be illegal for it to be in the parking lot? On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:19 PM wrote: > The federal government repeatedly has cut budgets for park and recreation > areas over the past 20 years. At this point our tax dollars actually do not > cover even a bare

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Dawn Hannay
I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m willing to buy a permit, there is no plan nor projected date for when they will start selling the 2022 permit, even though the permit season starts February 1. The only people who can park legally in the meantime are

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Dawn Hannay
Jack, it’s a special fishing access permit issued by Gateway National Recreation Area that’s required. Dawn Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:22 PM, Jack Rothman wrote: > > I don’t know what kind of fishing permit is needed for the area you are > discussing. I purchased a NYS

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Adelia Honeywood
That is for state parks. Breezy is a federal park. On Thursday, February 3, 2022, 09:22:53 PM EST, Jack Rothman wrote: I don’t know what kind of fishing permit is needed for the area you are discussing. I purchased a NYS Resident Fishing Permit for $5, senior rate. It is good for a

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
I agree. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Deborah Shapiro wrote: > >  > I agree that we should support the organizations to get things changed. The > fact remains that this is a National Recreation Area run by the National Park > Service and it’s supposed to be accessible

[nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread James Minor
Apologies, I had tried to respond when this first came out but wound up only replying to just Anne. Some things to add - Beach 223 st. lot/aka Fisherman's lot, Yacht club, Riis landing and the lot adjacent are permit only, all day. Only other restriction in the rest of Jamaica Bay Gateway is

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Deborah Shapiro
I agree that we should support the organizations to get things changed. The fact remains that this is a National Recreation Area run by the National Park Service and it’s supposed to be accessible to the public, not just to one interest group. > On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:46 PM, Anne Lazarus

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Jack Rothman
I don’t know what kind of fishing permit is needed for the area you are discussing. I purchased a NYS Resident Fishing Permit for $5, senior rate. It is good for a year. I purchased it online last May and printed it out at home. It came with a parking permit. The process was quite simple. It

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Adelia Honeywood
From what I've been told, in order to buy the fishing parking permit you actually have to show up at the Ryan Visitor Center at Floyd Bennett Field carrying a fishing rod. I don't know if that really is required, but people I know who have the permit say they did that.I wonder how it'd go over

[nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Dawn Hannay
Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in winter, but I seem to remember some change in that policy. Thank you, Dawn Hannay Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info:

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy Point? We > used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in winter, but I seem to > remember some

[nysbirds-l] Location to view the eagles at Storm King

2022-02-03 Thread Andrew Block
Hi all, Does anyone know where to view the Golden Eagles at Storm King Mtn.?  Will be going up there on Saturday so was wondering since I haven't seen any posts here about them in awhile. Andrew Andrew v. F. Block Consulting Naturalist 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York

[nysbirds-l] Why does eBird allow reports of domestic/captive birds?

2022-02-03 Thread Andrew Block
Question.  Why does eBird allow reports of captive/domestic birds to be reported?  I don't get that.  I was shown by a friend a report of a dozen or so Barnacle Geese seen at the Bronx Zoo which are obviously not wild birds.  Why would someone report that in the first place and why would eBird

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why does eBird allow reports of domestic/captive birds?

2022-02-03 Thread John Kent
https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48000948757-ebird-faqs#anchordonotreport On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Block wrote: > Question. Why does eBird allow reports of captive/domestic birds to be > reported? I don't get that. I was shown by a friend a report of a

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Robert O'Neill
Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit you can be towed. Bob O’Neill On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus wrote: > I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay wrote: > > > > Can

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Jennifer Wilson-Pines
Photos of sign at Breezy recently posted on another list- permit not required in winter (until March) On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:04 PM Robert O'Neill wrote: > Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit > you can be towed. > Bob O’Neill > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Deborah Shapiro
Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags? > On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill wrote: > >  > Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit you > can be towed. > Bob O’Neill >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus wrote: >> I will ask

Re: [nysbirds-l] Why does eBird allow reports of domestic/captive birds?

2022-02-03 Thread Jeanne
Maybe for the same reason they allow reports of  birds that are on private property? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 4:54 PM, John Kent wrote: #yiv7862139209 p.yiv7862139209MsoNormal, #yiv7862139209

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and you need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this unjust regulation. Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this season. It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of Fort Tilden.

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Trachlar
Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily). L. Trachtenberg Ossining NY Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus wrote: > >  > Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Stanley Greenberg
This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Jennifer Wilson-Pines
I know that there is a discussion with State parks to create a birders permit, perhaps that can also be proposed if they don't want to have general public using limited parking Jennifer On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Stanley Greenberg wrote: > This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Adelia Honeywood
When I went recently we parked at Fort Tilden and then took a Lyft over to the Fisherman's Lot at Breezy. You can also take the Q35 bus until just over the Marine Pkwy Bridge and take an Uber or Lyft from there. I agree with Stanley though that a national park is supposed to be accessible to

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread tess
The federal government repeatedly has cut budgets for park and recreation areas over the past 20 years. At this point our tax dollars actually do not cover even a bare bones budges for these areas and fees for parking and other services are an increasingly important part of their budgets. 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
Where do you park the bike? Would it be illegal for it to be in the parking lot? On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:19 PM wrote: > The federal government repeatedly has cut budgets for park and recreation > areas over the past 20 years. At this point our tax dollars actually do not > cover even a bare

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Dawn Hannay
I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m willing to buy a permit, there is no plan nor projected date for when they will start selling the 2022 permit, even though the permit season starts February 1. The only people who can park legally in the meantime are

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Ardith Bondi
But, isn’t the permit for fishermen only, or is there a permit for birders? Ardith NYC www.ardithbondi.com Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Dawn Hannay wrote: > > I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m > willing to buy a permit, there is no

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
We should support Audubon, Linnaean etc in their process to change the permit parameters. It is not all that easy to buy a fishing permit, so I have been told. I had considered buying one. I would like to know how our supportive organizations are working on this problem. We do pay taxes. I live

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Deborah Shapiro
I agree that we should support the organizations to get things changed. The fact remains that this is a National Recreation Area run by the National Park Service and it’s supposed to be accessible to the public, not just to one interest group. > On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:46 PM, Anne Lazarus

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Anne Lazarus
I agree. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Deborah Shapiro wrote: > >  > I agree that we should support the organizations to get things changed. The > fact remains that this is a National Recreation Area run by the National Park > Service and it’s supposed to be accessible

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Jack Rothman
I don’t know what kind of fishing permit is needed for the area you are discussing. I purchased a NYS Resident Fishing Permit for $5, senior rate. It is good for a year. I purchased it online last May and printed it out at home. It came with a parking permit. The process was quite simple. It

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Adelia Honeywood
From what I've been told, in order to buy the fishing parking permit you actually have to show up at the Ryan Visitor Center at Floyd Bennett Field carrying a fishing rod. I don't know if that really is required, but people I know who have the permit say they did that.I wonder how it'd go over

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Adelia Honeywood
That is for state parks. Breezy is a federal park. On Thursday, February 3, 2022, 09:22:53 PM EST, Jack Rothman wrote: I don’t know what kind of fishing permit is needed for the area you are discussing. I purchased a NYS Resident Fishing Permit for $5, senior rate. It is good for a

Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Dawn Hannay
Jack, it’s a special fishing access permit issued by Gateway National Recreation Area that’s required. Dawn Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:22 PM, Jack Rothman wrote: > > I don’t know what kind of fishing permit is needed for the area you are > discussing. I purchased a NYS

[nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread James Minor
Apologies, I had tried to respond when this first came out but wound up only replying to just Anne. Some things to add - Beach 223 st. lot/aka Fisherman's lot, Yacht club, Riis landing and the lot adjacent are permit only, all day. Only other restriction in the rest of Jamaica Bay Gateway is