Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-28 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
Kurt, BUT, there's something to be said about getting the carb holes equi-distant (and closer) to the cylinders. Absolutely! Or equidistant and farther for ram affect, as in the case of a tunnel ram. Offy still makes tunnel rams for an Olds. :-))) Milton Schick 1964 442 Cutlass [EMAIL PRO

RE: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-27 Thread Kurt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Infinite Space > Systems, Inc. > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:19 PM > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited > > > >I thought I read, a Qj

Re: Subject: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
dealer without an option code. Nothing else would be accepted. Someone has to order it with documentation. Milton Schick 1964 442 Cutlass [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Subject: 65 442 w/425 r

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread HotRodHarrys
In a message dated 2/26/2006 3:04:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not trying to bore the list. Just share a little Olds history. Willis Thanks for the story and good old days Harry HotRodHarrys.com

Re: Subject: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread HotRodHarrys
In a message dated 2/26/2006 3:41:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouldn't the simplest way to determine this be in finding a build sheet, and wouldn't the 425 have to be a numbers matching engine? Seems this would be the easiest way to prove it. Just a thought...

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
uary 26, 2006 12:49 PM Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited Tom: I had the chance to do an interview with Jack "Doc" Watson at his office in Michigan a couple of years ago. He told me that the 1968 Hurst Olds cars all came down the Cutlass assembly line with the 455 engine, and as I

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
I thought I read, a Qjet could out perform the old tri-power, which is why they stopped building them. Now a dual quad is another thing. Nope. I have no idea as to the real reason the tri-power was offered as an option for only 1966 and was avialable as a dealer parts package for 1967. It the

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
I think what we are saying is...if Olds did run low on the new 400 motor to put in the car for its early production...that maybe...just maybe they did put the 425 motors in some. I thinks thats all some are saying. They didn't run out of 400Es, and I'm sure the CEO of Olds would fire his

Subject: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread Cnvrtbl442
Wouldn't the simplest way to determine this be in finding a build sheet, and wouldn't the 425 have to be a numbers matching engine? Seems this would be the easiest way to prove it. Just a thought... Tim

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-26 Thread Willis Dennis
y. Willis - Original Message - From: "Tom Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Oldsmobile ListServer" Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . .

65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread bcroe
I thought I read, a Qjet could out perform the old tri-power, which is why they stopped building them. Now a dual quad is another thing. Bruce Roe 25 Feb 2006 "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would have loved to see super lightweight A-bodies > with first tri-p

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread HotRodHarrys
I think what we are saying is...if Olds did run low on the new 400 motor to put in the car for its early production...that maybe...just maybe they did put the 425 motors in some. I thinks thats all some are saying. Harry Mager HotRodHarrys.com

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread HotRodHarrys
In a message dated 2/25/2006 8:16:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a few 425 powered 65-442's may have "slipped " through (just like my spreadbore,pcv'd fully boxed rear control armed 65-442 did??? I say ...yes Harry Mager www.HotRodHarrys.com

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
Welll now...given the info that we have seen, isn't it possible that, for whatever reason, a few 425 powered 65-442's may have "slipped " through (just like my spreadbore,pcv'd fully boxed rear control armed 65-442 did??? No. The Hurst HO is a corporate agreement betwen Olds and Hurst

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited/Revised: 68 & 69 H/O's 455

2006-02-25 Thread Michael McDonald
On Saturday, February 25, 2006 Ken Synder wrote: >Listmembers, > > I ask this question: > >I know it was said "back in the day" that the 1968 and 1969 Hurst/Oldses had >their 455's installed at Demmer after they went down the assembly line. >However, I also have read the 455's were actually

65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Ronald Forsee
Welll now...given the info that we have seen, isn't it possible that, for whatever reason, a few 425 powered 65-442's may have "slipped " through (just like my spreadbore,pcv'd fully boxed rear control armed 65-442 did???

RE: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread 77W30442
2 pm is ok to call web site http://home.comcast.net/~77w30442/wsb/html/view.cgi-contact.html-.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:38 AM To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: 65

Re: Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
--- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited In the days of my youth, a friend of mine named eric peterson went to Dewey-Smith Chevrolet in North Omaha in 1969 and had them order for him

Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Cnvrtbl442
In the days of my youth, a friend of mine named eric peterson went to Dewey-Smith Chevrolet in North Omaha in 1969 and had them order for him a 1969 Deluxe 300 2 door "Phone Company car" green plain jane sleeper with a 427 and automatic and posi rear. No radio, as plain as he could get. Th

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
riginal Message - From: "Kerry Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: 65 442 w/425 revisited As I unclearly recall, Last year when this thread went around one bit of evidence of an A body having a 455 motor in 68 69 was the location of

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
Ken, I know it was said "back in the day" that the 1968 and 1969 Hurst/Oldses had their 455's installed at Demmer after they went down the assembly line. However, I also have read the 455's were actually installed on the assembly line through some wink-wink deal Olds concocted up -- anyone hav

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread 73H/O OLDSRIP
Hi Guys, I recently read a article that contained a statement by Doc Watson. He said that they came from Olds with the engines already installed. He also said something like he was saying this to clear up the rumors. Joe Walters 73 H/O Tom Stoner wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Tom Stoner
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . I know it was said "back in the day" that the 1968 and 1969 Hurst/Oldses had their 455's installed at Demmer after they went down the assembly line. However, I also have read the 455's were actually installed on the assembly line through some wi

65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread Kerry Doyle
As I unclearly recall, Last year when this thread went around one bit of evidence of an A body having a 455 motor in 68 69 was the location of a drain plug. If it was between the motor mount holes it was A body and if on a boss towards the end of the block it was a big car? Or do I have this ba

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-25 Thread KS7RACING
Listmembers, This thread is very interesting! I've went through, picked out the responses and read them first when I've opened up my e-mail. With all due respect to everyone involved, I ask this question: I know it was said "back in the day" that the 1968 and 1969 Hurst/Oldses had their 455'

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
Ron, I think I'm beginning to understand but still am a little confused. Are you saying that the 68 & 69 Hurst Oldsmobiles were basically modifieds with no warranty from Oldsmobile? Nope, that's a totally different animal. Hurst and Olds entered into a formal contract for Hurst to cr

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Ronald Forsee
Milt,   I think I'm beginning to understand but still am a little confused. Are you saying that the 68 & 69 Hurst Oldsmobiles were basically modifieds with no warranty from Oldsmobile?   Ron Forsee  

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread HotRodHarrys
In a message dated 2/24/2006 9:21:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't this fun??!! For the sake of "discussion", exactly how would one "prove" that his 65-442 came with a 425? I guess go with as many date codes on the motor to the build datethats a start...or

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
IL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: 65 442 w/425 revisited Isn't this fun??!! For the sake of "discussion", exactly how would one "prove" that his 65-442 came with a 425? Ron

65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Ronald Forsee
Isn't this fun??!!  For the sake of "discussion", exactly how would one "prove" that his 65-442 came with a 425?   Ron Forsee  Devils Advocate

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread HotRodHarrys
I understand what you are saying Ron. Dealer installed options are pretty cool when documented and ad a certain value to the car also. I just bought my new 2006 Mustang GT Convertible with Dealer Installed 20 inch rims and Convertible Light Bar. I have the paperwork and will save it. Along

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
Ron, Would I be incorrect if I surmised that we might be dealing with semantics here? Does saying a vehicle is "a factory original" literally mean it came straight from the factory or rather " I ordered and got the vehicle with dealer installed options"? No. Factory delivered with dealer i

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Ronald Forsee
Would I be incorrect if I surmised that we might be dealing with semantics here? Does saying a vehicle is "a factory original" literally mean it came straight from the factory or rather " I ordered and got the vehicle with dealer installed options"? There were many dealer installed options which we

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread JOHN ORR
It was the right time at the right place. It was undescribably COOL, KOOL, KOUL. :-) those were the days john orr 67 cutlass supreme 4 spd tampa fl

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
James, So what about the C.O.P.O.? Isn't that how Yenko got his start? Yenko Chevrolet wasn't the only dealership using it either, just the most famous, probably because of the custom graphics he added. Before 1970, it wasn't factory assembly line direct. It was only dealer installed. That'

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
Kurt is 1000% correct. There is only "he said she had" stories. Nobody has ever stepped up to the plate with *proof* of one. If anyone says there is, let them bring forth the proof. (Which never starts with "I know someone...") From personal experience, I knew guys and one gal in 1965 - 19

RE: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread James Hernandez
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Infinite Space Systems, Inc. Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:14 PM To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited There was a GM wide ban on any engine larger than 400 cubes in any A-body and Camaro sized from 1965 to 1969, period. The ***only***

RE: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-24 Thread Kurt
ECTED] Behalf Of Troy Provost > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:09 PM > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited > > > I looked thru all of my hardbound 442 and Olds books. No mention > of 425 in > a 65 442. However, 442.com FAQ section does m

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-23 Thread Infinite Space Systems, Inc.
ECTED] - Original Message - From: "Troy Provost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: 65 442 w/425 revisited Hi, Was helping daughter with homework, Had to look up a word. No dictionary, found one on the internet. It also has an ency

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-23 Thread HotRodHarrys
In a message dated 2/23/2006 8:44:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get to the 1965 year, and it stated a few came with the 425. Has anyone ever ran into some documentation on this? I also have heard of some 65 442 Olds original owners with early production 65 442's

Re: 65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-23 Thread Troy Provost
I looked thru all of my hardbound 442 and Olds books. No mention of 425 in a 65 442. However, 442.com FAQ section does mention that some early 442's came with 425's as confirmed by a number of people. Later, Troy

65 442 w/425 revisited

2006-02-23 Thread Troy Provost
Hi, Was helping daughter with homework, Had to look up a word. No dictionary, found one on the internet. It also has an encyclopedia. So I type in Oldsmobile. Ask for which one, So I clicked on Olds 442. Has a nice history from 64 on. I get to the 1965 year, and it stated a few came wi