Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread ILT (O)
Silverlight end-of-life is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my reading (eg, just today - Visual Studio Magazine - Satya Nadella's To-Do List [link http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/02/11/satya-nadellas-to-do-li st.aspx ] - Andrew Brust). There are several offerings of advice

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread Scott Barnes
Yeah you need to move on from Silverlight that ship sailed in 2009 and even if they wanted to put that broken toy back together again, it would be likely back under the hood of WPF (which is apparently today what they did by putting the WPF band back together - how or what that looks like is

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Grant Maw
Greg and Greg : +100 to your sentiments. David Kean : does this answer your question? On 12 February 2014 16:54, Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.comwrote: I do not think this was directed at me but here goes... Start rant @#$%^ing Microsoft has #$%^ed me and the community on

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Grant Maw
Here's somethinghttp://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/02/11/satya-nadellas-to-do-list.aspxfrom VS Magazine's website that might be of interest. The article arrogantly lays out a laundry list of things for the new CEO to look at. Unlikely he'll ever see this or take any notice of it, but

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Greg Keogh
Hi Greg H I certainly agree that Silverlight is/was a great way to deliver impressive apps in the desktop browser. Because it was XAML and C# I barely had to learn anything new, I could sit down and churn it out (once you knocked through all the security walls of course). I know you put a lot of

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Scott Barnes
Yes its 20years support (silverlight). Nearly all products get 20yr support from Microsoft as it has something to do with overarching Military/Govt contract agreements etc. I'm one of the people that's declared WPF/Silverlight dead and you will not get an official response from Microsoft so you

RE: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Wright
I was another who spend an awful lot of time learning Silverlight. Used it on a major international project going out to a whole lot of clients where we couldn't control the browsers that they use. We'd finally just got on top of all the Silverlight quirks and MVVM when Silverlight was first

RE: Authenticating with third party providers in MVC5

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Wright
Actually, I didn’t have much to do to get it working in MVC as it’s essentially already built in. All you have to do is uncomment some lines of code and then configure the authentication providers at the source. I will take a look at the link you’ve provided in case it does something different.

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Greg Keogh
As for the graphs - I'm using the Kendo (which is Telerik) graphs and data visualisation tools. They're ok, and there are a couple of annoyances, like with any graph generator, but they're pretty good. Tony, I'm really curious to see how graphs come out in HTML and JavaScript via Kendo, is

RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread Nathan Chere
FYI that bit.ly link gives a Skydrive error message. The IFTTT link on your Twitter page works fine From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of osjasonrobe...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2014 5:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Favourite

RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread Fredericks, Chris
http://bit.ly/programmermusicsurvey works for me. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 11:54 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album FYI that bit.ly link gives a Skydrive error

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Paul Evrat
I'd like to see those graphs also if you are happy to group it .. Original message From: Greg Keogh g...@mira.net Date: To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: Migrating TFS As for the graphs – I’m using the Kendo (which is Telerik) graphs and data

Re: Authenticating with third party providers in MVC5

2014-02-12 Thread mike smith
IMO it shouldn't log out from third party provider. Example: I have gmail open I goto another page and open your app with google login I finish on your page, and logout I should be able to return to gmail and find it still logged in, not logged out by your app. Least surprise. On Wed, Feb 12,

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread David Burstin
Works for me On 13 February 2014 11:58, Fredericks, Chris chris.frederi...@hp.comwrote: http://bit.ly/programmermusicsurvey works for me. *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Chere *Sent:* Thursday, 13 February 2014 11:54 AM

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread osjasonroberts
Don’t what’s going on there lol Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts From: Fredericks, Chris Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎13‎ ‎February‎ ‎2014 ‎8‎:‎58‎ ‎AM To: ozDotNet

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Greg Harris
+1 for I'd like to see those graphs also if you are happy to group it .. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: I'd like to see those graphs also if you are happy to group it .. Original message From: Greg Keogh g...@mira.net Date: To:

RE: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Wright
Telerik have fully functioning demos at: http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/dataviz/pie-charts/index.html If you get their trial, you get all the demo code, so you can fiddle with it to get it to behave exactly the way you want. Each graph also has the code for how they produced the demo at

Re: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Scott Barnes
Yeah i'm calling Spacer Problem on your issues described (ie the space between Silverlight and you). Everything you've outlined can be distilled into We haven't yet figured out how deep linking as a concept works because we're used to HTTP handling that burden for us through to Async is hard stuff

RE: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Wright
Alright I pay some of that. Within the corporate environment I was in for the major project, we were also coding on 32 bit machines. We had continuous memory overflow issues, which we raise to MS and were told it wasn't going to be fixed because it was 32 bit issues. Together with the crashes and

RE: Authenticating with third party providers in MVC5

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Wright
I now have an excuse not to do anything more with it, so I can move on. Thanks for the advice. T. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 12:09 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Authenticating with

RE: Migrating TFS

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Wright
One more thing: I did have a problem with Area Charts. IMO the area charts look superior to simple line charts. But when I implemented the area charts, you can only plot a single y point per x-axis value. This meant that on some of my graphs, it looked terrible as they weren't smooth. Of course, I

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread Greg Keogh
Works for me Yeah me too, I put in Gustav Mahler, Symphonies 1-10 boxed set, but the question was biased, because it doesn't make me feel like a coding deity, they're just so arduously long, repetitive and tortuous that it makes perfect company for my daily coding experience.. In fact, if

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread David Kean
Silverlight/Jupiter (Windows XAML) started under ScottGu. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:00 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer

RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread Stephen Price
Worked on my phone. :) -Original Message- From: David Burstin david.burs...@gmail.com Sent: ‎13/‎02/‎2014 9:09 AM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album Works for me On 13 February 2014 11:58, Fredericks, Chris chris.frederi...@hp.com wrote:

RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread Stephen Price
Enter the Ninja by Die Artwoord. If that doesn't make you a Ninja then nothing will. ;) -Original Message- From: Greg Keogh g...@mira.net Sent: ‎13/‎02/‎2014 11:17 AM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album Works for me Yeah me too, I put in Gustav

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread Grant Maw
I put in Steve Ballmer's classic debut album Developers, Developers, Developers. On 13 February 2014 13:17, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Works for me Yeah me too, I put in Gustav Mahler, Symphonies 1-10 boxed set, but the question was biased, because it doesn't make me feel like a

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread mike smith
Worked for me (now listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0feature=kp ) Damn, I love that guitar! On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, thought it would be cool to write a fun blog post with programmers fave albums I used Excel web app

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
If only the chicks were really for free! On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: Worked for me (now listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0feature=kp ) Damn, I love that guitar! On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread mike smith
I put in a request for Satya to do a DEVdevDev remix :^) On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote: I put in Steve Ballmer's classic debut album Developers, Developers, Developers. On 13 February 2014 13:17, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Works for me Yeah

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread mike smith
Going to makeup a playlist for us at the end? On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.comwrote: If only the chicks were really for free! On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: Worked for me (now listening to

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread osjasonroberts
hehe - that made me smile  Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts From: Greg Keogh Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎13‎ ‎February‎ ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎17‎ ‎AM To: ozDotNet Works for me

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

2014-02-12 Thread osjasonroberts
Hope to - gonna blog the results which should be fun - anyone know if you can create Xbox Music playlists to share (or other ways to create sharable playlists??) Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses:

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread mike smith
inline (but not const) On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Silverlight “end-of-life” is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my reading (eg, just today – Visual Studio Magazine – “*Satya Nadella's To-Do List*”

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread ILT (O)
I wasn’t aware that Scott Guthrie had responsibility for Silverlight and XAML initially. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:28 PM To:

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread Joseph Cooney
Xaml from the early days of WPF is circa 2002 or earlier. I think the GU was still hacking out ASP.NET on planes as a PM at that time. On Feb 13, 2014 2:43 PM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: I wasn't aware that Scott Guthrie had responsibility for Silverlight and XAML initially.

[OT] Anyone encountered NationZoom?

2014-02-12 Thread ILT (O)
As I have lost my access to the SMBiT Professionals email lists, I thought someone on this one might have an idea of how to remove the browser hijacker browserzoom. A friend has the problem - his laptop was infected in India, apparently. I gather that it is some sort of music downloader, but

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread David Connors
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: I'm hoping he's behind the WPF reboot rumours i'm hearing more and more of. WPF Reboot? I for one can't wait for 2 gigabyte of RAM footprint calculator applications and my GPU shitting itself trying to draw a green

RE: [OT] Anyone encountered NationZoom?

2014-02-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
I can't find any hits for browserzoom, but there is a relatively common piece of malware called Nationzoom. Perhaps that it what your friend has? If so, Malware Bytes will remove it (according to the instructions at:

RE: [OT] Anyone encountered NationZoom?

2014-02-12 Thread ILT (O)
Sorry, Ken - my typo - NationZoom as the subject says - not browserzoom as in my first line. I'll take a look at bleeping and see what's needed with Malwarebytes. Thx _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com