Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

I didn't know Samsung makes memory cards though? Cool.


On 5/2/2017 6:09 PM, Kenny wrote:
Try looking up Pny, Samsung and SanDisk  SD cards on Amazon.com. 
Purchased mines during a Black Friday sale on Amazon.


At 05:37 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote:
Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? 
That's epic!



On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote:
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable 
to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the 
Samantha voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from 
Reader's Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS 
so Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do 
I listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB 
SD card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my 
fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if 
I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
little

package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment 
on my

purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
bit of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check 
for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR 
Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have 

Re: OT maybe Grundig G3 radio

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

Not at all surprised to hear this as the quality control for the G3 
radio is nothing short of terrible, I'll put a link to the review of 
this radio in this eMail.


So how to fix the sticky radio? I've had this problem before with 
various radio sets and the short answer seems to be to get a dry cloth 
dipped in amonia and with this thoroughly wipe the affected surface 
though be sure to have a window open whilst you work.


Okay and now for the review of the G3 radio

Grundig Globe Traveler G3 | radiojayallen



On 3/05/2017 5:10 AM, Bob Hicks wrote:

Hello list.  This isn't exactly a pc audio question, but I have a Grundig G3
Globe Traveler transistor radio which I use a lot because TV sports
broadcasters do too much bsing.  Radio broadcasters are more about the game.

  


My problem is this, all the external surfaces have become sticky.  Nothing
in the house has this curse.  How can I get rid of the problem?

  


Also, I need a replacement battery for a Reporter G2 radio.  Is there a
Grundig support source state side?  Thanks

  

  


Have a great day!

  


Bob Hicks

  



--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"

Android smart speaker supports Alexa and Google Assistant

[Dane Trethowan]

Opens up a whole range of possibilities being based on Android
http://linuxgizmos.com/android-smart-speaker-supports-alexa-and-google-assistant/

--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as 
if you were going to live forever"

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? That's epic!


On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote:
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable 
to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha 
voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's 
Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so 
Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do I 
listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD 
card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my 
fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Kenny]

WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha 
voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's 
Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so 
Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do 
I listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD 
card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about 

Re: Removing Meta Information From Sound Files

[Dave Marthouse]

Thanks.


I'll give it a try.'




Dave





On 5/2/2017 5:15 PM, Kenny wrote:

I think you need the excellent MP3 Tag software found here:
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html

It can not only remove all those Meta tags for you, but it can help 
you find the right one's to replace them easily.


Next to Winrar, this is the most used program on my Windows 10 PC. 
100% accessible to JAWS and very very easy to use. Make sure to 
checkout the forums if you do encounter any problems.


At 02:29 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote:
Can someone point me to any software package that can remove all 
meta information from sound files. so that I can make that 
information match what is in the song title?



I've looked in system properties and can't seem to change or even 
find the names to change.



Any information would be appreciated.





--

Dave Marthouse
dmartho...@gmail.com






--

Re: Removing Meta Information From Sound Files

[Kenny]

I think you need the excellent MP3 Tag software found here:
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html

It can not only remove all those Meta tags for you, but it can help 
you find the right one's to replace them easily.


Next to Winrar, this is the most used program on my Windows 10 PC. 
100% accessible to JAWS and very very easy to use. Make sure to 
checkout the forums if you do encounter any problems.


At 02:29 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote:
Can someone point me to any software package that can remove 
all meta information from sound files. so that I can make that 
information match what is in the song title?



I've looked in system properties and can't seem to change or even 
find the names to change.



Any information would be appreciated.





--

Dave Marthouse
dmartho...@gmail.com

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Laz]

Hi Gera,

You can lurk as long as you want. (smile)

Laz

On 5/2/17, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> And do you have to buy or sale something to be on, or could I just go on
> and see if I someday find an interesting item I'd like to buy or sale?
> El 02/05/2017 a las 10:18 a.m., Laz escribió:
>> Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io
>>
>> It has over 450 members and going strong.
>>
>> Laz
>>
>> On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>>> Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
>>> anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
>>> Blind devices?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
 I've had it for only 24 hours.

 I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
 device to use - but it doesn't suit me.

 I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
 exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
 like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
 that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
 to the Internet.

 Anyway now I know .



 On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
> 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
> speaker or headphones!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
>
> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality
> of
> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>
>
>
> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
>> of
>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
>> reception is poor.
>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
>> package.
>> Evan
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>> purchase.
>>
>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>> most respects.
>>
>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
>> having
>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
>> of an
>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess
>> a
>> product can't have everythint.
>>
>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to
>> date,
>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>
>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream
>> box
>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth
>> -
>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a
>> great
>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>
>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>
>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself
>> but
>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though
>> I
>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
>> good to
>> know I have a reliable backup.
>>

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Gerardo Corripio]

And do you have to buy or sale something to be on, or could I just go on 
and see if I someday find an interesting item I'd like to buy or sale?

El 02/05/2017 a las 10:18 a.m., Laz escribió:

Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io

It has over 450 members and going strong.

Laz

On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
Blind devices?


On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
I've had it for only 24 hours.

I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.

I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
to the Internet.

Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
good to
know I have a reliable backup.





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https://www.avast.com/antivirus







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Gera
Enviado desde Thunderbird

OT maybe Grundig G3 radio

[Bob Hicks]

Hello list.  This isn't exactly a pc audio question, but I have a Grundig G3
Globe Traveler transistor radio which I use a lot because TV sports
broadcasters do too much bsing.  Radio broadcasters are more about the game.

 

My problem is this, all the external surfaces have become sticky.  Nothing
in the house has this curse.  How can I get rid of the problem?

 

Also, I need a replacement battery for a Reporter G2 radio.  Is there a
Grundig support source state side?  Thanks

 

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

Removing Meta Information From Sound Files

[Dave Marthouse]

Can someone point me to any software package that can remove all 
meta information from sound files. so that I can make that information 
match what is in the song title?



I've looked in system properties and can't seem to change or even find 
the names to change.



Any information would be appreciated.





--

Dave Marthouse
dmartho...@gmail.com

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay, thanks.


On 5/2/2017 11:18 AM, Laz wrote:

Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io

It has over 450 members and going strong.

Laz

On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
Blind devices?


On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
I've had it for only 24 hours.

I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.

I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
to the Internet.

Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
good to
know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Laz]

Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io

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On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
> anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
> Blind devices?
>
>
> On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
>> I've had it for only 24 hours.
>>
>> I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
>> device to use - but it doesn't suit me.
>>
>> I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
>> exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
>> like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
>> that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
>> to the Internet.
>>
>> Anyway now I know .
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
>>> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
>>> 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
>>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
>>> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
>>> speaker or headphones!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>
>>> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
>>> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
>>> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
>>>
>>> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
>>> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
>>> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
 As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
 some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
 in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
 reception is poor.
 Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
 package.
 Evan

 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

 Hi!

 I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
 purchase.

 Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
 most respects.

 The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
 having
 already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
 of an
 annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
 hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
 product can't have everythint.

 Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
 noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
 compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
 Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
 well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

 There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
 and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
 I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
 sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
 entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

 Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
 downlaoded a couple of books.

 Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
 the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
 read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
 good to
 know I have a reliable backup.



>>
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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay.


On 5/2/2017 10:16 AM, john schwery wrote:

Hamit, I'm not sure.  BSt is mostly American.

At 10:02 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote:

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an 
EBay for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound 
of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a 
good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much 
prefer an external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker 
for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but 
then

again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
transceiver

in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
little

package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment 
on my

purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it 
is in

most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however 
- having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
bit of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the 
"Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up 
to date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR 
Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for 
that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use 
myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.




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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[john schwery]

Hamit, I'm not sure.  BSt is mostly American.

At 10:02 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote:

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an 
EBay for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even 
though I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and 
convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit 
behaves when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound 
of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or 
a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much 
prefer an external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.




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Re: SV: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Dane Trethowan]

And that'ts the point.

On an iPhone etc its very enjoyable to listen to music from that 
internal speaker - no not excellent quality - but far better than it 
used to be.




On 2/05/2017 8:12 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi Dane,
Agree totally.
It's usable for speech, but hopeless when it comes to music.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 08:31
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an 
improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other stuff 
out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal speakers.



On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi.
Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was
really really bad!

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom
Kaufman
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has 
always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is 
a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a
bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small
BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost
me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but
I guess a product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to
date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream
box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so
forth
- I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for
that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a
great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself
but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even
though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site
its good to know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah cool. Thanks.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[john schwery]

Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a 
good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much 
prefer an external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.





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SV: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Brian Olesen]

Hi Dane,
Agree totally.
It's usable for speech, but hopeless when it comes to music.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 08:31
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an 
improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other stuff 
out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal speakers.



On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
> Hi.
> Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was 
> really really bad!
>
> Brian
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom 
> Kaufman
> Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
> Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
> said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you 
> plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty 
> good sound!  But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd 
> much prefer an external speaker or headphones!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
> all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio 
> has always been a problem with the Stream.
>
> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - 
> is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
> headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>
>
>
> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>> that reception is poor.
>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
>> package.
>> Evan
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my 
>> purchase.
>>
>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
>> most respects.
>>
>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
>> bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small 
>> BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost 
>> me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but 
>> I guess a product can't have everythint.
>>
>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have 
>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow 
>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for 
>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
>> date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>
>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
>> box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
>> forth
>> - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for 
>> that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
>> great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>
>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I 
>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>
>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
>> but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
>> though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site 
>> its good to know I have a reliable backup.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Dane Trethowan]

Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an 
improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other 
stuff out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal 
speakers.




On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi.
Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin
It was really really bad!

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Kaufman
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has 
always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is 
a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a
bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small
BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost
me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I
guess a product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to
date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth
- I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for
that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a
great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though
I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
good to know I have a reliable backup.





--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"

SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Brian Olesen]

Hi.
Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin
It was really really bad!

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Kaufman
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you 
plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty 
good sound!  But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd 
much prefer an external speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has 
always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is 
a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of 
> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver 
> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that 
> reception is poor.
> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
> package.
> Evan
>
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Hi!
>
> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my 
> purchase.
>
> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
> most respects.
>
> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
> bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small 
> BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost 
> me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
> guess a product can't have everythint.
>
> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have 
> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow 
> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for 
> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
> date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>
> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box 
> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth 
> - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for 
> that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
> great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>
> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I 
> downlaoded a couple of books.
>
> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but 
> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though 
> I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
> good to know I have a reliable backup.
>
>
>

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**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you 
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