Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: And, I don't know about Lightroom specifically, but with many of the Library oriented, database-based cataloging solutions, God help you if you ever want to rearrange things on the file system after they're in the catalog. It's never a

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: My organizational needs are different between film and digital. I don't edit the files the same way, I can't usually organize film scans by the day they were shot and the day they were scanned is useless to me since I might have scanned a half-dozen

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: As to keyword metadata, frankly I find adding it annoying and using it of little use to me. I understand what value it can add, I just find using said capabilities to be something that doesn't work for me. I've got nothing agains keywording (Which

Re: Wouldn't you know it?

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm glad iPhoto is filling all your needs. I don't use it much. I've had it crash the iPhoto library with large numbers of files (I have somewhere on the order of 40,000 files in my default LR catalog and over 90,000 in the compendium catalog I do searches on occasionally). But if it

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
Paul Stenquist wrote: My files are simply organized by date shot as the folder name, followed by a few key words. If the folder hasn't been backed up yet, it carries a b prefix. Once I back it up, I remove the prefix. I manage the files with Bridge and find it all quite simple. I never

Re: LR organizational workflow concepts

2009-04-03 Thread Joseph McAllister
My setup is similar. IMy iMac 24 has an internal 320 GB, and 8 external drives, total of 5.4 TB. All USB 2.0. 1 is used for iTunes. 1 for Time Machine backup (hourly, daily, weekly, monthly - falloffs in each type), 1 for a retrospect BU weekly, 2 are partitioned x 2, Images, Images

When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread Malcolm Smith
Does anyone remember when this was first available to buy, rather than all the hype that seemed forever to lead up to it? Thanks, Malcolm PS - As it's April 3rd, better finish on a song: Who Brings the Cheese on April 3rd? It's the Cheese Weasel! He's not a silly bunny or a reindeer or a bird

Re: Pentax at GFM

2009-04-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/4/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: maybe inactive members of the list? Yup, that's me. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
When I left work yesterday, I stopped to shoot a field that has been catching my eye for a couple of years: I think that this may be the best of the lot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408989436 Also, Nick was concerned about the low light performance of the K100. This set was shot at

RE: When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread John Whittingham
Late 2003 IIRC John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Malcolm Smith [malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com] Sent: 03 April 2009 07:59 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: When was the *ist D released in the UK? Does anyone

Re: PESO: Redbuds

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:17:40PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: The sun came out a bit this evening so I had to shoot some more photos! http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/redbuds.html For someone who hates digital, you ain't doin half bad with it. -- The fastest way to get your question

Re: PESO - tulip dance

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: Having some rendering fun. http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1073 Very nice. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Re: PESO - Quiet Corner

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 12:02:36PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: I had planned on posting this today, then yesterday Godfrey posted his cafe shot and I hesitated, then I decided what the hell: Start a theme for the day. Besides bickering about tools anyways.

Re: PESO - tulip dance

2009-04-03 Thread Brian Walters
Not just fun but great results as well! The softness of the petals blending into the dark background is very appealing. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:33 -0400, Doug

Re: PESO - Three Tracks

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
I liked the closer crop better, and would have actually cropped off more of the sky. On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 02:47:54PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Also shot at the Duck Club. This is what you see looking the other direction when no train is there -- the moth ball fleet. Ships, believe

RE: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
Basically, when I tried it out, Lightroom got in my way at least as often as it helped me. The tools I already have work just fine with my preferred workflow, and don't make me jump through their hoops to do what I want to do. And, I don't know about Lightroom specifically, but

Re: Pentax at GFM

2009-04-03 Thread Rick Womer
Yes, John, you should definitely attend someday! The first time I went, 3 years ago, there were maybe 20 PDMLers there; 2 years ago a slightly smaller group. We took over a quadrant of the campground as PDML Central, adorned with a big Pentax banner, and very well supplied with beer and

RE: When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread Malcolm Smith
Thanks John, Late 2003 IIRC I think I'm overdue some enablement then. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

RE: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
And exactly what do I gain by importing them? Nothing except a file management UI I don't like in the first place and metadata-based searching I'll never use along with the need to import it in the first place, which Bridge doesn't need to do. Not to mention the fact that Bridge allows me

RE: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
In a message dated 4/2/2009 7:19:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Marnie _ I like the first one a LOT better.. (duck2 without theb) but would just shave off the very bottom where a few tufts of grass or something is sticking up... I like the flotsam, though

RE: GESO: Mont Tremblant

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
Last weekend I had the chance to go to another beautiful place in Quebec: Mont Tremblant. It seems like a nice place to go in summer as well. With this I conclude my ski season, promise, no more winter photos :-) I managed to finish the winter season without buying the DA15/4 (lack of

PESO - Hurley's Sky

2009-04-03 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all I had a few days away with some friends last week - a bit of relaxing; some wine was drunk. We stayed in one of the old keeper's cottages at Norah Head lighthouse. A great location with plenty of opportunity to go photographing. Here's one that I came across late on the last day. I

Re: PESO - Hurley's Sky

2009-04-03 Thread Toine
Wow! I like this cliché. Toine 2009/4/3 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: G'day all I had a few days away with some friends last week - a bit of relaxing; some wine was drunk. We stayed in one of the old keeper's cottages at Norah Head lighthouse. A great location with plenty of

RE: When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread John Whittingham
The K20D is very nice, and the prices have come down quite a bit, but I still enjoy using the *istD. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Malcolm Smith [malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com] Sent: 03 April 2009 09:49 To:

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: It's true that you have to do the import step for scanned files, and can't as Mark said, use LR's facilities without importing, but that's the way LR was designed to work from the beginning. Complaining about it is like complaining that a car is not as good as a pram because you

Re: Wouldn't you know it?

2009-04-03 Thread Nick Wright
Well, it's not perfect. But for the price -- free -- it's really very good. Eventually I'll probably upgrade to Aperture ... someday. As far as library size goes. I use multiple iPhoto libraries. Holding option while clicking the iPhoto icon will allow you to choose among your libraries or create

Re: PESO: Redbuds

2009-04-03 Thread Nick Wright
Haha... I love making photographs. I just decided that the medium doesn't matter as much as I thought it did (especially when I started counting up how much it was going to cost me to keep shooting film). Besides I have been shooting almost all digital since 2001, I ought to know a thing or two

RE: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
It's true that you have to do the import step for scanned files, and can't as Mark said, use LR's facilities without importing, but that's the way LR was designed to work from the beginning. Complaining about it is like complaining that a car is not as good as a pram because you

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: It's true that you have to do the import step for scanned files, and can't as Mark said, use LR's facilities without importing, but that's the way LR was designed to work from the beginning. Complaining about it is like complaining that a car is not as good as a pram because

Re: PESO - Hurley's Sky

2009-04-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brian, I can hear God about to speak from behind the clouds. Wonderful image. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all I had a few days away with some friends last week - a bit of relaxing; some wine was drunk. We stayed in one

Re: PESO - tulip dance

2009-04-03 Thread Jack Davis
Like it very much, Doug! Jack --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com Subject: PESO - tulip dance To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:33 PM Having some rendering fun.

Re: PESO - Hurley's Sky

2009-04-03 Thread Jack Davis
Love the God light. Beautiful! Jack --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: PESO - Hurley's Sky To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 4:23 AM G'day all I had a few days away

Re: GESO: First shots from my new K100D Super

2009-04-03 Thread Luiz Felipe
Hey Nick, interesting pics - I like the fence and the flowers. Interesting camera indeed, but then it's a Pentax :-) LF Nick Wright escreveu: So I took some shots around the homestead this afternoon with my new K100D Super. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalingprose/sets/72157616140170257/

Re: PESO - tulip dance

2009-04-03 Thread Christian
Doug Brewer wrote: Having some rendering fun. http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1073 enjoy Very cool shot. The softness and light really work. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - tulip dance

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Having some rendering fun. http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1073 enjoy Beautiful! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: RAW software It isn't a false analogy - you just haven't grasped it! Find me a person who actually wants to put petrol in a pram and you'll convince me it's not a false analogy. Is there a baby in that pram? Do I have a

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: RAW software On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: As to keyword metadata, frankly I find adding it annoying and using it of little use to me. I understand what value it can add, I just find using said capabilities

Mid-America Photography Symposium

2009-04-03 Thread tbeilby
Just a heads up to anyone who might be interested. This symposium was started several years ago by members of the NW Arkansas Photographic Society and has now grown to a regional event. Information can be found on the MAPSYM website: http://www.mapsym.org/ I am not attending

PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
Scroll down and click on the photo to see today's offering: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/04/cool-north-wind.html Spring is here but when the north wind blows down Yonge Street one still has to turn one's collar up... Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a

Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance

2009-04-03 Thread Bruce Walker
Larry Colen wrote: Also, Nick was concerned about the low light performance of the K100. This set was shot at between ISO 200 and 400. It wasn't horribly dark, but it was by no means ideal lighting for action shots. The biggest problem was that the two spots on the band both had yellow gels,

Re: Pentax at GFM

2009-04-03 Thread David J Brooks
Have to second what Rick said. I attended 2005-2007 and have met some pretty decent characters. Cotty's nice to. Lots of Pentax gear on site, along with some Nikon's and Canon stuff. The PDML have the one corner pretty much sewn up, next to the wash room, but only charge a nominal fee for it.;-)

Re: PP question, sharp and unsharp.

2009-04-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Larry Colen wrote: One thing that I haven't been able to find yet is a good description of the mechanism of sharpening, unsharp mask and what all the various knobs, dials and variables do. in general, your PP shouldn't be

Re: Pentax at GFM

2009-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/3/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Have to second what Rick said. I attended 2005-2007 and have met some pretty decent characters. Cotty's nice to. Lots of Pentax gear on site, along with some Nikon's and Canon stuff. The PDML have the one corner pretty much sewn up,

Re: PESO: Redbuds

2009-04-03 Thread David J Brooks
Nice, almost looks like a lilac. Dave On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: The sun came out a bit this evening so I had to shoot some more photos! http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/redbuds.html -- ~Nick David Wright

Re: PESO: Redbuds

2009-04-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Nick Wright wrote: The sun came out a bit this evening so I had to shoot some more photos! http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/redbuds.html nice work, Nick. I've added you to my blog roll. Hope you can handle the

GFM numbers?

2009-04-03 Thread tbeilby
Anyone besides me curious how many members got GFM tickets? Just wondering how many and who from the list are going/camping. Email me off list and I will do a count for anyone interested. I am going on a weekend photo shoot at a nearby state park this weekend ( Devil's Den State Park,

Re: Pentax at GFM

2009-04-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/3/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Have to second what Rick said.  I attended 2005-2007 and have met some pretty decent characters.  Cotty's nice to.  Lots of Pentax gear on site, along with some

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread David J Brooks
You can feel the cold and damp.:-) My kids looked like that to day to. Dave On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:28 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Scroll down and click on the photo to see today's offering: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/04/cool-north-wind.html Spring

Re: GESO: Mont Tremblant

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Last weekend I had the chance to go to another beautiful place in Quebec: Mont Tremblant. It seems like a nice place to go in summer as well. With this I conclude my ski season, promise, no more winter photos

Re: Pentax at GFM

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: To clarify, it's only Dave who is charged a fee, and that's because he keeps us up all damn night. Yes, but there's never been a bear sighting in the camping area on years that Dave's been there... ;-) BTW, John, I've

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread Jack Davis
GRIM! I fits the mood for me to imagine they are all facing another long day at work. I remember. :( Fine capture, Paul! Jack --- On Fri, 4/3/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - North Wind To: Pentax-Discuss

RE: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
Anyway, here's a better one. You need a steamhammer for your work which involves driving enormous piles into the ground. You also occasionally need to tap a tack into a piece of wood. You complain because the steam piledriver is no good at tapping little tacks into wood.

New K20D? was: When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread Malcolm Smith
John Whittingham wrote: The K20D is very nice, and the prices have come down quite a bit, but I still enjoy using the *istD. I've just spent an enjoyable few minutes browsing the Park Cameras website. If only I could decide on the lens package... Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread John Graves
Speaking of Steamhammers...and piledrivers, I am still using PSE3. I am limited to adobe Camera Raw 3.6 (which I have installed)by PSE3. I have not seen any picture processing tools in any of the subsequent PSE or Camera Raw releases that warrant their purchase. It appears that the

RE: New K20D? was: When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Malcolm Park Cameras always seem a little pricey to me, I've had very good service from SRS and cheaper prices for genuine UK products. As an examle: DA 15mm f/4 ED AL Park Cameras £569.99 SRS Microsystems £479.00 Might be worth a look, I generally just go for the body only option when

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread Christian
frank theriault wrote: Scroll down and click on the photo to see today's offering: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/04/cool-north-wind.html Spring is here but when the north wind blows down Yonge Street one still has to turn one's collar up... Comments always welcome. cheers, frank

Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: When I left work yesterday, I stopped to shoot a field that has been catching my eye for a couple of years: I think that this may be the best of the lot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408989436 Also, Nick was

Re: PESO: Redbuds

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: The sun came out a bit this evening so I had to shoot some more photos! http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/redbuds.html -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ Excellent shot! Love the colour.

Re: GESO: Mont Tremblant

2009-04-03 Thread Fernando
Thanks Bob, I think winter starts in June in the southern hemisphere, right? I might've spoken too soon though, I'll probably go south in May, technically not winter though :-) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Last weekend I had the chance to go to another

Re: GESO: Mont Tremblant

2009-04-03 Thread Fernando
Thanks Frank, Looks like a nice place for biking in summer. And yes, definitely not a cheap place to stay, but beautiful. This ski thing gave me the chance to visit some beautiful places here is Canada, something I should do more often after living five years here ;-) I'm still shocked about

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: As to keyword metadata, frankly I find adding it annoying and using it of little use to me. I understand what value it can add, I just find using said capabilities to be

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: Anyway, here's a better one. You need a steamhammer for your work which involves driving enormous piles into the ground. You also occasionally need to tap a tack into a piece of wood. You complain because the steam piledriver is no good at tapping little tacks into wood.

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: RAW software There's zero nonsense involved. Grasshopper, you have strayed from the one true path to file system nirvhana and must be shamed until you see the light and allow it to guide you back to the one true path, from

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: RAW software Pointing out that software can't do something which it easily *could* do, and is desired by some users, is not an exercise in futility. It is, in fact, how good, responsive software developers improve their

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: RAW software Pointing out that software can't do something which it easily *could* do, and is desired by some users, is not an exercise in futility. It is, in fact, how good, responsive software developers

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: My organizational needs are different between film and digital. I don't edit the files the same way, I can't usually organize film scans by the day they were shot and the day

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:02 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: That's still wrong: Lightroom isn't anything as crude as a piledriver. No one would reasonably expect to be able to use a piledriver for tapping little tacks. A reasonable photographer *would* like to be able to use a tool whose desirable

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: RAW software I'd rather set fire to a few prams. With or without babies in them? This is a rhetorical question, right? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: The guy first in line looks miserable. Yeah, he didn't look too happy. Mostly no one is waiting for that bus. On Sunday mornings the subway doesn't start until after 9:00 (they say to allow them extra maintenance

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: You can feel the cold and damp.:-) My kids looked like that to day to. Your kids must have been more than just damp today - I bet dripping wet and cold would have been more like it. Thanks for the comment! cheers,

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Adam Maas wrote: You seem unable to understand the idea that LR's work-saving features can actually create more work in some situations. Using LR requires me to do more work than using Bridge and my heirarchical filing system. This slows down my workflow rather than

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: GRIM! I fits the mood for me to imagine they are all facing another long day at work. I remember. :( Fine capture, Paul! As I just told Christian, it was Sunday morning before the subway was up and running. There are lots

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread Fernando
Nice Frank. Yonge has lots of these windy corners. I like the right part of the frame better, more face expressions there. I always enjoy frames divided by a post, gives you the chance to mix up two photos in one, although it works better when part of the background if different on each side of

Re: PESO - Hurley's Sky

2009-04-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, I would agree that is spectacular! -- Bruce Friday, April 3, 2009, 4:23:20 AM, you wrote: BW G'day all BW I had a few days away with some friends last week - a bit of relaxing; BW some wine was drunk. BW We stayed in one of the old keeper's cottages at Norah Head lighthouse. BW A

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Pointing out that software can't do something which it easily *could* do, and is desired by some users, is not an exercise in futility. It is, in fact, how good, responsive software developers improve their product. My #2 Philips

RE: New K20D? was: When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread Malcolm Smith
Hi John, Park Cameras always seem a little pricey to me, I've had very good service from SRS and cheaper prices for genuine UK products. As an examle: DA 15mm f/4 ED AL Park Cameras £569.99 SRS Microsystems £479.00 Might be worth a look, I generally just go for the body only option

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: Of course, I could buy a screwdriver with an interchangeable bit head and use that, but then I wouldn't have something to complain about. I want to use my #2 Philips head screwdriver for Torx screws too. If you think

Re: PESO: Redbuds

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 06:45:06AM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Haha... I love making photographs. I just decided that the medium doesn't matter as much as I thought it did (especially when I started counting up how much it was going to cost me to keep shooting film). It's not the silly or

Re: PESO - Hurley's Sky

2009-04-03 Thread Christine Aguila
That's lovely, Brian. You do such great work! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: PESO - Hurley's Sky G'day all I had a few days away with some

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: And exactly what do I gain by importing them? Nothing except a file management UI I don't like in the first place and metadata-based searching I'll never use along with the need to import it in the first place, which Bridge

Re: PESO - North Wind

2009-04-03 Thread Christine Aguila
We've had too many days just like that in Chicago. I'm so ready for some warmer weather. Great shot, Frank. Really captures the moment, mood, weather. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:39:18PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: RAW software Basically, when I tried it out, Lightroom got in my way at least as often as it helped me. The tools I already have work just fine with my

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:   Anyway, here's a better one. You need a steamhammer for your work which involves driving enormous piles into the ground. You also occasionally need to tap a tack into a piece of wood. You complain because the steam

Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:38:41AM -0400, frank theriault wrote: I think that the two best shots were both of Irv on the sax: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3409027558/in/set-72157616200776255/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408211857/in/set-72157616200776255/ The whole

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:02 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: That's still wrong: Lightroom isn't anything as crude as a piledriver. No one would reasonably expect to be able to use a piledriver for tapping little tacks. A reasonable

Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 09:28:48AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Larry Colen wrote: The whole set is at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616200776255/ Those are really nice, Larry! Your lighting must have been actually pretty good. Take a look at these ones taken with a

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Adam Maas wrote: You seem unable to understand the idea that LR's work-saving features can actually create more work in some situations. Using LR requires me to do more work than using Bridge

Re: PP question, sharp and unsharp.

2009-04-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:13:59PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: One thing that I haven't been able to find yet is a good description of the mechanism of sharpening, unsharp mask and what all the various knobs, dials and variables do. in general, your PP shouldn't be

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:39:18PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: RAW software I just had to do an OS install and when the machine came back to me my mirrored

Re: PESO: Redbuds

2009-04-03 Thread Nick Wright
I think it was more the rush-rush mentality that accompanied digital shooting, at least in my experience. When I quit the paper last year I didn't want to touch a camera again. I had been working from 7-8 in the morning till 11 or later at night too many days a week. Lately I've found that I can

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:02 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: That's still wrong: Lightroom isn't anything as crude as a piledriver. No one would reasonably expect to be able to use a piledriver for tapping little tacks. A reasonable photographer *would* like to be able to use a

Re: GFM numbers?

2009-04-03 Thread Doug Brewer
tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Anyone besides me curious how many members got GFM tickets? Just wondering how many and who from the list are going/camping. Email me off list and I will do a count for anyone interested. I am going on a weekend photo shoot at a nearby state park this weekend (

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: RAW software . If you think people should use the right tool for their needs, perhaps you should have used less critical language when they chose not to use your favorite tool. Your canoe is in the mail. William Robb --

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: RAW software It's too bad you couldn't just change a line in /etc/fstab. People say that Windows is so much easier than Unix, but if something like that happened on a Linux box, it would be a 30 second job to remap the drive back

Re: PESO - tulip dance

2009-04-03 Thread Christine Aguila
boy, oh boy, that's pretty, Doug. cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: PESO - tulip dance Having some rendering fun.

RE: New K20D? was: When was the *ist D released in the UK?

2009-04-03 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Malcolm I'd like to increase my lens collection. I think that's fair enough after a break of 5 years from buying! I agree, the first thing I went looking for was something for the wide end, I can thoroghly recommend the DA 16-45/4 very good lens and not too expensive. Most of my kit is

Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/3/2009 1:58:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: In a message dated 4/2/2009 7:19:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Marnie _ I like the first one a LOT better.. (duck2 without theb) but would just shave off the very

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: if all you wanted was RAW conversion, use Camera Raw. Lightroom was not designed for that kind of use. It was designed for end-to-end image management. That's what makes it efficient. Except that Camera Raw doesn't work as well. I much

Re: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:22:20AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: No, I don't like LR's file management and am explaining why . . . I have to agree with Godfrey here. Your reasons for disliking it appear to be partly based on inaccurate statements about Lightroom. I use Lightroom entirely with my

RE: RAW software

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
If you think people should use the right tool for their needs, perhaps you should have used less critical language when they chose not to use your favorite tool. Your canoe is in the mail. I have no idea what that means, but it's funny, so I'm going to steal it. Bob -- PDML

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