RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-21 Thread John Coyle
Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 4:15 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce My experience in France (probably applies everywhere in fact) was to only go in those restaurants

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
: Friday, 21 May 2010 2:51 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce Sacre-Coeur is on top the Buttes-Montmartre. The Parc des Buttes-Chaumont is on top of the Buttes-Chaumont. Different buttes in a different part of town. Near the Parc des Buttes-Chaumont may help

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce John Coyle wrote: Whoops - should have checked the map, since it's a long time since I was last in Paris

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-20 Thread John Coyle
anyway. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:01 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce Roughly translated Chef's Special; Stewed beef in mushroom

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-20 Thread mike wilson
On 20 May 2010 00:15, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: steve harley On 2010-05-19 08:38 , John Sessoms wrote: The real problem with vegan is I'm going to have to shop more often to keep fresh veggies in stock. No adequate way to keep them otherwise. [...] That means at

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-20 Thread Keith Whaley
John Coyle wrote: My experience in France (probably applies everywhere in fact) was to only go in those restaurants where there is barely a table to be had, and the clientele are all locals. Worked a treat in China, Vietnam and Hong Kong: not so well in Egypt, where I found I did not really like

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-20 Thread Bob W
My experience in France (probably applies everywhere in fact) was to only go in those restaurants where there is barely a table to be had, and the clientele are all locals. Worked a treat in China, Vietnam and Hong Kong: not so well in Egypt, where I found I did not really like much of the

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-20 Thread John Coyle
...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Keith Whaley Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 11:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce John Coyle wrote: My experience in France (probably applies everywhere in fact) was to only go in those restaurants where

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-20 Thread John Coyle
! That and other disasters lead to the end of a very warm relationship... John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 4:15 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce My

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-20 Thread Bob W
: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 4:15 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce My experience in France (probably applies everywhere in fact) was to only go in those restaurants where

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread mike wilson
On 19 May 2010 05:08, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ground beef ain't processed is it? Not in the way the doctor means. OTOH, much American beef (maybe other meats, too; I'm not sure) is classified as not fit for human consumtion in the UK/EU due to high levels of growth hormones

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread eckinator
2010/5/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Doctor says I've got to eat less processed meat (preserved with salt or sugar), and more fresh fruits vegetables. Good plan and you get to lose so many other unpleasant ingredients alongside Been good, doing what he says, but I can't give up meat

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: half pound of mild pork sausage If it has additives, it's processed! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 4:23 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 19 May 2010 05:08, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ground beef ain't processed is it? Not in the way the doctor means. OTOH, much American beef (maybe other meats, too; I'm not sure) is classified as not fit for human consumtion

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/19 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: Half a glass!! In my house there's no such thing as half a glass It's okay, Brian. Just always refer to the top half! :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/19 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: There's a lot about the EU that's a bit off.  I've eaten in France and come away wondering was that Beef or Horse?  I know what the menu said... I think there are some sayings about how to screw foreign tourists too. :-) --

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Bran Everseeking wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:08:51 -0400 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ground beef ain't processed is it? not in a way that impacts you ...but definitely in a way that impacts the cow. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 19/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: half pound of mild pork sausage If it has additives, it's processed! I think that sausage and cured meats are the ones to avoid in your situation, John. IIRC, they'll be

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 18, 2010, at 23:30, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:08 -0400, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Secret ingredient - half a glass of red wine poured into the chef. Half a glass!! In my house there's no such thing as half a glass In my house there's

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Paul Sorenson
I've had that feeling after dinner in a restaurant in Prague, too. Whatever it was...it was tasty. :-\ -p On 5/19/2010 5:12 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: There's a lot about the EU that's a bit off. I've eaten in France and come away wondering was that Beef or Horse? I know what the menu

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Sandy Harris
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I think that sausage and cured meats are the ones to avoid in your situation, John. IIRC, they'll be loaded with salts and nitrites, which are real bad for you. Yes, indeed, though if you can find a local farmer or butcher who makes them in

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 19/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: half pound of mild pork sausage If it has additives, it's processed! I think that sausage and cured meats are the ones to avoid in your situation,

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche --

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? I'm a Pastafarian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? Cotty's a well-known Klingon, Tanya is a Bo(ob)rg and Bill is Canadian. If I had to spot a

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-19 08:38 , John Sessoms wrote: The real problem with vegan is I'm going to have to shop more often to keep fresh veggies in stock. No adequate way to keep them otherwise. [...] That means at least twice a week out to the farmers market. i'd love to live around the corner from a good

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 1:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? I'm a Pastafarian.

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? I'm a Pastafarian. Hah, hah... Once I found Michaelangelo’s vegetable

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-05-19 13:07, Mark Roberts wrote: I'm a Pastafarian. FSM FTW! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Bob W
half pound of mild pork sausage If it has additives, it's processed! I think that sausage and cured meats are the ones to avoid in your situation, John. IIRC, they'll be loaded with salts and nitrites, which are real bad for you. I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Bob W
Ground beef ain't processed is it? Not in the way the doctor means. OTOH, much American beef (maybe other meats, too; I'm not sure) is classified as not fit for human consumtion in the UK/EU due to high levels of growth hormones and antibiotics. It's not even allowed in to

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/5/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: eschew Bless you. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 5:38 PM, Bob W wrote: Ground beef ain't processed is it? Not in the way the doctor means. OTOH, much American beef (maybe other meats, too; I'm not sure) is classified as not fit for human consumtion in the UK/EU due to high levels of growth hormones and antibiotics.

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Bob W
Roughly translated Chef's Special; Stewed beef in mushroom sauce; but it was a bit tough and gamy, and spiced in such a way as to disguise the flavor of the meat. I'd have thought it venison but that was also on the menu at a higher price. Admittedly I pretty much exhaust my

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20/05/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: People are often surprised to find that you can get bad food in France just as you can anywhere else. When I was in Paris last month I went to have a look at the building where Baudelaire spent his childhood in an old square which escaped

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: steve harley On 2010-05-19 08:38 , John Sessoms wrote: The real problem with vegan is I'm going to have to shop more often to keep fresh veggies in stock. No adequate way to keep them otherwise. [...] That means at least twice a week out to the farmers market. i'd love to live around

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-19 15:36 , Bob W wrote: Careful shopping and an ability to interpret packaging help. Better still, eschew* packaging altogether and the chances are you'll be eating food rather than a food product. [eschew packaging pun resisted] there is also the 5 ingredients or less theory,

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
On May 19, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? I'm a Pastafarian. I'm a Dionysian.

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Miserere
On 19 May 2010 04:44, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO skip the pork sausage, pork is the worst kind of meat for humans for a whole multitude of reasons. Generations of Spaniards (myself included) disagree with you hogheartedly. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ --

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
On May 19, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Miserere wrote: On 19 May 2010 04:44, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO skip the pork sausage, pork is the worst kind of meat for humans for a whole multitude of reasons. Generations of Spaniards (myself included) disagree with you hogheartedly.

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 10:11 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On May 19, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Miserere wrote: On 19 May 2010 04:44, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO skip the pork sausage, pork is the worst kind of meat for humans for a whole multitude of reasons. Generations of

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-05-19 21:48, Miserere wrote: On 19 May 2010 04:44, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO skip the pork sausage, pork is the worst kind of meat for humans for a whole multitude of reasons. Generations of Spaniards (myself included) disagree with you hogheartedly. I want to go on

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ah, Pastafarians. Worshipers of the wild spacetti monster - his noodley self! These folks need equal time with the biblical creationists in our school science classes. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault,

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce On 2010-05-19 21:48, Miserere wrote: On 19 May 2010 04:44, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO skip the pork sausage, pork is the worst kind of meat for humans for a whole multitude of reasons

OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-18 Thread John Sessoms
Doctor says I've got to eat less processed meat (preserved with salt or sugar), and more fresh fruits vegetables. Been good, doing what he says, but I can't give up meat entirely, so that means I got to find un-processed meat. Ground beef ain't processed is it? Anyway I'm making home-made

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-18 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:08:51 -0400 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ground beef ain't processed is it? not in a way that impacts you -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.-

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-18 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:08 -0400, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Secret ingredient - half a glass of red wine poured into the chef. Half a glass!! In my house there's no such thing as half a glass Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney